| IVOD_ID |
170763 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170763 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-30 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-30T09:08:18+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-30T09:18:34+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:16 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:08:18 - 09:18:34 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第3次公聽會（事由：召開「面對K型經濟問題，行政部門如何引導經濟成果均衡分配於全體勞工，並維繫非半導體產業發展動能」公聽會） |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進 |
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那麼我笨鳥先飛啦 |
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因為我們立法院跑來跑去的 |
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所以我先講一下 |
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今天這個題目大家非常關心 |
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不過這個財政部的阮次長 |
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金管委副主委陳副主委 |
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要特別關心 |
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因為現在所有的媒體啊 |
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還有路人甲路人椅啊 |
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我的選民 |
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27 |
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大家都在關心 |
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27 |
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31 |
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台灣的股市兩天跌了3500點 |
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到底國安基金要不要復盤 |
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大家關心這個題目 |
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當然這個題目跟今天有關係 |
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39 |
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等一下講什麼關係 |
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39 |
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41 |
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但就我個人的觀點 |
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43 |
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也提供給各位參考 |
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43 |
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46 |
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等一下阮次長拜託 |
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46 |
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49 |
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我們就請主席請他針對 |
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49 |
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51 |
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國安基金要不要復盤 |
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51 |
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54 |
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這個事情給我們一個明確的方向 |
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54 |
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56 |
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我個人是覺得 |
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56 |
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58 |
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國安基金的設計 |
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58 |
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61 |
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是當這個市場失靈 |
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63 |
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當初在1999年 |
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63 |
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66 |
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因為李前總統因應了 |
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66 |
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68 |
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這個德國之音 |
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68 |
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72 |
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他發表兩岸式特殊的兩國論之前 |
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72 |
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74 |
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他算到可能會緊張 |
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74 |
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77 |
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就是非經濟因素造成 |
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77 |
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80 |
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恐慌股市的暴跌 |
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80 |
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82 |
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所以才成立國安基金 |
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82 |
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84 |
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可是國安基金到目前為止 |
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84 |
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86 |
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他所動用好幾次 |
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86 |
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89 |
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每一次都沒有超過1000億 |
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89 |
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93 |
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各位最多的幾百億而已 |
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95 |
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有一次勉強到1000億左右 |
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95 |
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97 |
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或者超過什麼 |
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97 |
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99 |
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所以國安基金其實是 |
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99 |
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101 |
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Lip Service |
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101 |
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103 |
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LIP |
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103 |
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105 |
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嘴巴在服務 |
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105 |
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107 |
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就是他是個信心的展示 |
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107 |
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109 |
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政府關心了 |
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109 |
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111 |
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大家不用怕 |
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111 |
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113 |
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但是要前提是什麼 |
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113 |
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115 |
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前提是市場失靈 |
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115 |
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117 |
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什麼叫市場失靈 |
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117 |
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119 |
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我要賣賣不掉 |
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119 |
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120 |
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沒有量 |
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120 |
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122 |
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像古板龍前財政部長 |
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122 |
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125 |
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宣布課徵證所說的時候 |
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125 |
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128 |
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19天無量下跌 |
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128 |
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130 |
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那時候市場失靈的 |
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130 |
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132 |
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那時候國安基金進場 |
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132 |
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134 |
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絕對是正確的 |
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134 |
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136 |
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那我一回過往 |
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136 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
138 |
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像我們現在國安基金老實講 |
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138 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
140 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
挺尷尬的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
140 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
142 |
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因為量有啊 |
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142 |
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144 |
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昨天還超過1000億 |
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144 |
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146 |
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你說成交量有 |
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146 |
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148 |
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但股市跌 |
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148 |
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150 |
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對我個人來講 |
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150 |
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152 |
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我長期在財政委員會 |
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152 |
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154 |
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股市我關心的是量 |
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154 |
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156 |
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量就代表市場 |
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156 |
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158 |
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就代表這裡有沒有市場 |
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158 |
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量夠大就代表這裡有市場 |
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160 |
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162 |
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其實要管的是管量 |
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162 |
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164 |
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價的話尊重市場 |
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164 |
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166 |
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價當然影響很多 |
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166 |
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168 |
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政府了不起就是信心喊話 |
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168 |
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170 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
不過我今天也來了 |
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170 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
172 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
好不容易我們的主席英明 |
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172 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
174 |
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可以請到央行的副總裁 |
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174 |
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176 |
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嚴中大 |
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176 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
178 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
請你回去告訴總裁 |
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178 |
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180 |
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總裁這個金口不能亂開 |
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180 |
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182 |
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我們要開就請他來立法院 |
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182 |
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184 |
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我們請主席多請他來 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
184 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
186 |
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他不太願意來金管 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
186 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
188 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
藍牌會 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
188 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
190 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
他一開口啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
190 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
192 |
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央行總裁一開口提醒你 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
192 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
194 |
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沒多久股市一定爆底 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
194 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
196 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
其實我看好幾次 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
196 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
198 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
你看他這一次就講 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
198 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
200 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
他這次講前幾天講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
200 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
202 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
他很注意喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
202 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
204 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
不是AI的問題喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
204 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
206 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
是西洋槓槓的問題喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
206 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
208 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
四代同堂六代同堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
208 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
210 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
他講的太夢對 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
210 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
212 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
可是因為他叫央行總裁 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
212 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
214 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
他叫楊金龍 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
214 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
216 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
他出來就很強烈的 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
216 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
218 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
正式的政策的 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
218 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
220 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
暗示 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
220 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
222 |
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那就是資金要緊縮了 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
222 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
224 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
他觀察最清楚你會錢怎麼留 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
224 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
226 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
股票市場就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
226 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
228 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
他知道錢怎麼留 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
228 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
230 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
所以這一次給我們汪寧 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
230 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
232 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
只是大家學的不夠聰明 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
232 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
234 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
我在台灣這麼久認識他 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
234 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
236 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
也是不夠聰明 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
236 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
238 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
以後就知道只要總裁講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
238 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
240 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
差不多你就準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
240 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
242 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
落跑是沒什麼錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
242 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
244 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
看起來就這個樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
244 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
246 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
對不起再給我幾分鐘喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
246 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
248 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
所以這是第一個我提到大家所關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
248 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
250 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
這個題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
250 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
252 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
第二個跟這個關聯有影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
252 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
254 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
買買經濟現在政府號稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
254 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
256 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
經濟部最喜歡吹這個牛 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
256 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
258 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
財經部門最喜歡吹這個牛 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
258 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
260 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
哇 我們經濟成長率 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
260 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
262 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
GDP今年上漢10% |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
262 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
264 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
現在即便再怎麼樣也9% |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
264 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
266 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
股市現在也9% |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
266 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
268 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
好高耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
268 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
270 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
高於對岸中國大陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
270 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
272 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
中國大陸了不起5 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
272 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
274 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
甚至於不到5 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
274 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
276 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
但是老百姓有敢嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
276 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
278 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
我舉個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
278 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
280 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
主計總署最近公佈的 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
280 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
282 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
我們的平均薪資是4.8萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
282 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
284 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
284 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
286 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
3分之2以上的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
286 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
288 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
將近7成 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
288 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
290 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
領不到平均薪資4.8萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
290 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
292 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
這就是可行經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
292 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
294 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
而且蓋一個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
294 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
296 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
當GDP成長的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
296 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
298 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
給勞工的那一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
298 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
300 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
只有台灣比1% |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
300 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
302 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
50% |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
302 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
304 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
其他日本歐盟美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
304 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
306 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
都是高於50% |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
306 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
308 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
請再給我3分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
308 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
310 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
都高於50% |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
310 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
312 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
只有台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
312 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
314 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
當我們的經濟成長的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
314 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
316 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
最大的受益者是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
316 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
318 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
就是資本家 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
318 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
320 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
相對的勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
320 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
322 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
一般的受薪階級 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
322 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
324 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
沒有看到物價 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
324 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
326 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
不斷的上漲之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
328 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
330 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
讓到他漲得有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
330 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
332 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
但是物價漲得這麼的高 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
332 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
334 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
現在的便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
334 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
336 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
前一天前幾天 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
336 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
338 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
不是講嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
338 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
340 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
財政委員會的便當不好吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
340 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
342 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
財政委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
342 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
344 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
我們的工作同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
344 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
346 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
說不錯啊100塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
346 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
348 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
你到底是 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
348 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
350 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
買菜100塊怎麼買的 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
350 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
352 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
可以吃的便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
352 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
354 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
有人這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
354 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
356 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
356 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
358 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
你就發現老百姓賺的錢是固定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
358 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
360 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
360 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
362 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
物價一直漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
362 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
364 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
所以大家看到有小白 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
364 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
366 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
那個年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
366 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
368 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
手機都在看股票 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
368 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
370 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
有人把工作辭掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
370 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
372 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
有人把房子去貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
372 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
374 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
就是股票所以會有四代同堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
374 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
376 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
六代同堂等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
376 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
378 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
這個一來就造成K型 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
378 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
380 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
更加的嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
380 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
382 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
那有人講說那我們就採取稅制 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
382 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
384 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
384 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
386 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
回去暖次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
386 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
388 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
其實真正能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
388 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
390 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
稍微平衡一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
390 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
392 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
貧富差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
392 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
394 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
就是財政部稅制 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
394 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
396 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
但是我們現在不可能課政治部稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
396 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
398 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
我們現在政教稅給你上下其中 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
398 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
400 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
政教稅收入荷包滿滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
400 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
402 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
繼續這樣課沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
402 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
404 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
404 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
406 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
應該認真去思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
406 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
408 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
學美國加州 |
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408 |
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410 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
資產超過一定的程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
410 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
412 |
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我跟你扣5%的 |
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412 |
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414 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
戶人稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
414 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
416 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
或者看幾%這個以前 |
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416 |
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418 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
又有人提到戶人稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
418 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
420 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
針對特別有錢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
420 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
422 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
我就課你稅他也不痛不癢 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
422 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
老實講 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
加州就這樣做美國已經這樣做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
428 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
這是我強調的第二點 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
428 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
430 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
第三點 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
430 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
432 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
我要提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
432 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
434 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
金管會要努力一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
434 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
436 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
我們現在所有的股票在漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
436 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
438 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
都是AI批評漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
438 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
440 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
報跌的時候AI領頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
440 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
報跌但是傳統股 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
沒有漲跌有分漲沒分 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
446 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
跌有分 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
446 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
448 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
你們提了老半天金管會主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
448 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
450 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
彭主委講得很大聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
450 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
452 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
有樸益計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
452 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
454 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
樸益計畫說 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
454 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
456 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
幫忙那些非AI股的 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
456 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
458 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
特別是小型股 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
458 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
到現在呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
462 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
也半年過去了成效不怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
462 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
464 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
一片空白 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
464 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
466 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
我們看還是AI |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
466 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
468 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
在領領漲領跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
468 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
470 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
其他的股都在旁邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
470 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
472 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
看就是看的流口水 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
472 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
474 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
漲可是跌他有分 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
474 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
476 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
漲沒有分 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
476 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
478 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
像問題是整個社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
478 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
480 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
經濟社會是這樣的一個秩序 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
480 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
482 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
那就是平則 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
482 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
484 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
月平負之月負 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
484 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
486 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
產業也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
486 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
488 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
跟得上這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
488 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
490 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
變成的最近我們要省 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
490 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
492 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
那個無人機產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
492 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
494 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
金光股基本面不怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
494 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
496 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
你看EPS |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
496 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
498 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
也沒有一塊錢幾毛錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
498 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
500 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
漲到兩三百塊這樣不便漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
500 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
502 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
這都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
502 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
504 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
你就發現到台積電 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
504 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
506 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
基本面多好 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
506 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
508 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
就是股票漲跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
508 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
510 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
韓國的SK什麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
510 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
514 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
基本面非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
514 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
516 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
結果他們的法輸化通能被人發揮 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
516 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
518 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
這才是最大問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
518 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
520 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
所以這裡面今天主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
520 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
522 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
英明提這個題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
522 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
524 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
這是一個大哉問非常大的題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
524 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
526 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
但是我不認為今天看完會有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
526 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
528 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
好的一個答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
528 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
530 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
可能最後的答案就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
530 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
投資人台灣人 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
各自自求多福 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
536 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
多看看多聽聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
536 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
538 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
我就講了各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
538 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
540 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
多聽聽這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
540 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
542 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
央行總裁的講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
542 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
544 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
多聽聽金管委主委講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
544 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
546 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
多聽聽財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
546 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
548 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
這幾個山巨頭他們講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
548 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
550 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
其實都有意義的 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
550 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
只要他出來講說喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
要注意貸款注意這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
556 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
融資啊什麼之類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
556 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
558 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
就代表某種程度在閒說 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
558 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
560 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
或者他看到什麼東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
560 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
562 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
一切都看到了只是提早跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
562 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
564 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
你要跟得上這個腳步啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
564 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
566 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
要不然吃虧都是自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
566 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
568 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
我簡單的這個報告跟各位講 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
568 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
570 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
今天題目排的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
570 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
572 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
我就是有感 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
572 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
574 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
找不到出口處 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
574 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
576 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
今天有這樣的出口 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
576 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
580 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
我覺得刷短貧富差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
580 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
582 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
財政部責無旁貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
582 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
584 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
責無旁貸央行也有責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
584 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
老實講金管會 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
588 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
對於發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
588 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
590 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
590 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
592 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
比較沒有亮的亮眼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
592 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
594 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
不錯體質的 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
594 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
596 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
要怎麼樣多介紹介紹啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
596 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
600 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
這個都是對我們投資者都有幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
600 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
602 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
這是簡單的跟各位做報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
602 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
604 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
也請各位指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
604 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
606 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
再跟各位時間多不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
606 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
608 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
請各位指教謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
610 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
612 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
謝謝類似保護委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
612 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
616 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
那接下來請第二位我們蔡明芳蔡教授歡迎您 |