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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:02,000 | 主席 |
| 00:00:02,000 | 00:00:04,000 | 各位專家學者 |
| 00:00:04,000 | 00:00:06,000 | 大家午安 |
| 00:00:06,000 | 00:00:08,000 | 今天 |
| 00:00:08,000 | 00:00:10,000 | 我們在這裡 |
| 00:00:10,000 | 00:00:12,000 | 要討論一個決定台灣未來 |
| 00:00:12,000 | 00:00:14,000 | 國家發展企業的 |
| 00:00:14,000 | 00:00:16,000 | 關鍵議題 |
| 00:00:16,000 | 00:00:18,000 | 我國憲政體制 |
| 00:00:18,000 | 00:00:20,000 | 運作了超過20年 |
| 00:00:20,000 | 00:00:22,000 | 未曾修訂 |
| 00:00:22,000 | 00:00:24,000 | 在食物運行上 |
| 00:00:24,000 | 00:00:26,000 | 我們在這幾年 |
| 00:00:26,000 | 00:00:28,000 | 已經在這幾年 |
| 00:00:28,000 | 00:00:30,000 | 在食物運行上 |
| 00:00:30,000 | 00:00:32,000 | 到底面臨了什麼困境 |
| 00:00:32,000 | 00:00:34,000 | 我們回頭來看 |
| 00:00:34,000 | 00:00:36,000 | 台灣現行的五全分立制度 |
| 00:00:36,000 | 00:00:38,000 | 卻發現早已出現了 |
| 00:00:38,000 | 00:00:40,000 | 嚴重的 |
| 00:00:40,000 | 00:00:42,000 | 前者不符、監察失能 |
| 00:00:42,000 | 00:00:44,000 | 潛意傾斜的一個困境 |
| 00:00:44,000 | 00:00:46,000 | 監察院原本設計 |
| 00:00:46,000 | 00:00:48,000 | 是替人民來 |
| 00:00:48,000 | 00:00:50,000 | 監督官員打擊貪腐 |
| 00:00:50,000 | 00:00:52,000 | 但長期 |
| 00:00:52,000 | 00:00:54,000 | 尤其這十年以來 |
| 00:00:54,000 | 00:00:56,000 | 前民看到的卻是 |
| 00:00:56,000 | 00:00:58,000 | 從重大的一個政治失職 |
| 00:00:58,000 | 00:01:00,000 | 或是政治爭議的時候 |
| 00:01:00,000 | 00:01:02,000 | 監察院的調查 |
| 00:01:02,000 | 00:01:04,000 | 往往淪為 |
| 00:01:04,000 | 00:01:06,000 | 政黨色彩的一個 |
| 00:01:06,000 | 00:01:08,000 | 辦案,甚至 |
| 00:01:08,000 | 00:01:10,000 | 執政當局的一個政治 |
| 00:01:10,000 | 00:01:12,000 | 富行工具 |
| 00:01:12,000 | 00:01:14,000 | 一個失去公信力 |
| 00:01:14,000 | 00:01:16,000 | 無法發揮實質監督功能的機關 |
| 00:01:16,000 | 00:01:18,000 | 已經完全背離憲法 |
| 00:01:18,000 | 00:01:20,000 | 當初賦予他的 |
| 00:01:20,000 | 00:01:22,000 | 一個期待 |
| 00:01:22,000 | 00:01:24,000 | 那麼今天我們台灣民眾黨 |
| 00:01:24,000 | 00:01:26,000 | 推派了一個 |
| 00:01:26,000 | 00:01:28,000 | 修憲委員 |
| 00:01:28,000 | 00:01:30,000 | 我們主張必須要 |
| 00:01:30,000 | 00:01:32,000 | 勇於面對憲政的一個現實 |
| 00:01:32,000 | 00:01:34,000 | 考慮來 |
| 00:01:34,000 | 00:01:36,000 | 廢除監察院回歸世界主流的 |
| 00:01:36,000 | 00:01:38,000 | 三權分立 |
| 00:01:38,000 | 00:01:40,000 | 將調查權 |
| 00:01:40,000 | 00:01:42,000 | 回歸市治585號 |
| 00:01:42,000 | 00:01:44,000 | 早就明文認定 |
| 00:01:44,000 | 00:01:46,000 | 立法院應有調查權的 |
| 00:01:46,000 | 00:01:48,000 | 國會,徹底來解決 |
| 00:01:48,000 | 00:01:50,000 | 憲政的一個困境 |
| 00:01:50,000 | 00:01:52,000 | 那麼針對要廢除監察院 |
| 00:01:52,000 | 00:01:54,000 | 除了監察院 |
| 00:01:54,000 | 00:01:56,000 | 淪為有錢無責的 |
| 00:01:56,000 | 00:01:58,000 | 政治擺設跟打手 |
| 00:01:58,000 | 00:02:00,000 | 那還有兩點,第一呢 |
| 00:02:00,000 | 00:02:02,000 | 是資源嚴重的一個 |
| 00:02:02,000 | 00:02:04,000 | 浪費,以得不到人民的 |
| 00:02:04,000 | 00:02:06,000 | 一個信任,監察院呢每年 |
| 00:02:06,000 | 00:02:08,000 | 消費國人數億元 |
| 00:02:08,000 | 00:02:10,000 | 以上的一個稅金跟預算 |
| 00:02:10,000 | 00:02:12,000 | 養著高薪的監察委員 |
| 00:02:12,000 | 00:02:14,000 | 跟龐大的一個閒政機器 |
| 00:02:14,000 | 00:02:16,000 | 產出的監督效益呢 |
| 00:02:16,000 | 00:02:18,000 | 卻為乎其微 |
| 00:02:18,000 | 00:02:20,000 | 監察院的表現 |
| 00:02:20,000 | 00:02:22,000 | 可以說是讓大多數的人 |
| 00:02:22,000 | 00:02:24,000 | 失望透頂 |
| 00:02:24,000 | 00:02:26,000 | 一年花了十幾億 |
| 00:02:26,000 | 00:02:28,000 | 但是呢不僅是酬庸 |
| 00:02:28,000 | 00:02:30,000 | 養回貓 |
| 00:02:30,000 | 00:02:32,000 | 然後呢更成為民進黨的政府的打手 |
| 00:02:32,000 | 00:02:34,000 | 第二呢 |
| 00:02:34,000 | 00:02:36,000 | 我們要迎向三權分立 |
| 00:02:36,000 | 00:02:38,000 | 將調查 |
| 00:02:38,000 | 00:02:40,000 | 以彈劾權 |
| 00:02:40,000 | 00:02:42,000 | 回歸國會跟司法 |
| 00:02:42,000 | 00:02:44,000 | 那許多人都問 |
| 00:02:44,000 | 00:02:46,000 | 廢除監察院,誰來監督政府 |
| 00:02:46,000 | 00:02:48,000 | 世界民主國家大多 |
| 00:02:48,000 | 00:02:50,000 | 執行三權分立 |
| 00:02:50,000 | 00:02:52,000 | 我們呢雖然主張 |
| 00:02:52,000 | 00:02:54,000 | 將監察院的一個調查權 |
| 00:02:54,000 | 00:02:56,000 | 轉移到立法院 |
| 00:02:56,000 | 00:02:58,000 | 讓直接承載許多 |
| 00:02:58,000 | 00:03:00,000 | 新的民意的國會 |
| 00:03:00,000 | 00:03:02,000 | 擁有實質攻擊 |
| 00:03:02,000 | 00:03:04,000 | 來制衡閒政獨裁 |
| 00:03:04,000 | 00:03:06,000 | 那麼今天呢剛剛我們的 |
| 00:03:06,000 | 00:03:08,000 | 很多專家、學者 |
| 00:03:08,000 | 00:03:10,000 | 提出了很多為了 |
| 00:03:10,000 | 00:03:12,000 | 監察院 |
| 00:03:12,000 | 00:03:14,000 | 那麼監察院的前者呢 |
| 00:03:14,000 | 00:03:16,000 | 應該歸屬到哪裡 |
| 00:03:16,000 | 00:03:18,000 | 有關於監督權 |
| 00:03:18,000 | 00:03:20,000 | 還有他的彈劾 |
| 00:03:20,000 | 00:03:22,000 | 那個懲罰權 |
| 00:03:22,000 | 00:03:24,000 | 還有審計權跟調查權 |
| 00:03:24,000 | 00:03:26,000 | 剛剛很多教授都有提出 |
| 00:03:26,000 | 00:03:28,000 | 寶貴的意見 |
| 00:03:28,000 | 00:03:30,000 | 那我們也可以把它視為說 |
| 00:03:30,000 | 00:03:32,000 | 今天這樣的一個 |
| 00:03:32,000 | 00:03:34,000 | 我們那個修憲呢 |
| 00:03:34,000 | 00:03:36,000 | 就是一個潛力的一個 |
| 00:03:36,000 | 00:03:38,000 | 重組跟均衡 |
| 00:03:38,000 | 00:03:40,000 | 那雖然呢 |
| 00:03:40,000 | 00:03:42,000 | 剛剛很多教授有提出 |
| 00:03:42,000 | 00:03:44,000 | 立法審計權 |
| 00:03:44,000 | 00:03:46,000 | 甚至人事的一個 |
| 00:03:46,000 | 00:03:48,000 | 考試驗的人事 |
| 00:03:48,000 | 00:03:50,000 | 能夠 |
| 00:03:50,000 | 00:03:52,000 | 回歸到立法院來 |
| 00:03:52,000 | 00:03:54,000 | 然後呢監督權 |
| 00:03:54,000 | 00:03:56,000 | 會放在立法院 |
| 00:03:56,000 | 00:03:58,000 | 那麼 |
| 00:03:58,000 | 00:04:00,000 | 這都是 |
| 00:04:00,000 | 00:04:02,000 | 一個很好的一個建議 |
| 00:04:02,000 | 00:04:04,000 | 但是我們還要 |
| 00:04:04,000 | 00:04:06,000 | 考慮到說目前的體制 |
| 00:04:06,000 | 00:04:08,000 | 我們的行政院長 |
| 00:04:08,000 | 00:04:10,000 | 的一個權益 |
| 00:04:10,000 | 00:04:12,000 | 他可以不復屬 |
| 00:04:12,000 | 00:04:14,000 | 不公告不復屬 |
| 00:04:14,000 | 00:04:16,000 | 那如果呢又把 |
| 00:04:16,000 | 00:04:18,000 | 監察院的一些權利放到行政院來 |
| 00:04:18,000 | 00:04:20,000 | 那我們就必須 |
| 00:04:20,000 | 00:04:22,000 | 行政院長就要回歸 |
| 00:04:22,000 | 00:04:24,000 | 過去必須由立法院 |
| 00:04:24,000 | 00:04:26,000 | 來任命 |
| 00:04:26,000 | 00:04:28,000 | 來均衡行政院 |
| 00:04:28,000 | 00:04:30,000 | 的一個 |
| 00:04:30,000 | 00:04:32,000 | 權利的一個擴大 |
| 00:04:32,000 | 00:04:34,000 | 再來呢我們必須要考慮到 |
| 00:04:34,000 | 00:04:36,000 | 我們的總統提名字 |
| 00:04:36,000 | 00:04:38,000 | 也是很大的問題 |
| 00:04:38,000 | 00:04:40,000 | 那我們的監委呢 |
| 00:04:40,000 | 00:04:42,000 | 由總統提名甚至是酬庸 |
| 00:04:42,000 | 00:04:44,000 | 這呢 |
| 00:04:44,000 | 00:04:46,000 | 會讓我們總統的權利 |
| 00:04:46,000 | 00:04:48,000 | 無限的擴大 |
| 00:04:48,000 | 00:04:50,000 | 所以呢在廢除的 |
| 00:04:50,000 | 00:04:52,000 | 同時呢我們也要考慮 |
| 00:04:52,000 | 00:04:54,000 | 除了 |
| 00:04:54,000 | 00:04:56,000 | 行政院的 |
| 00:04:56,000 | 00:04:58,000 | 院長的一個 |
| 00:04:58,000 | 00:05:00,000 | 由立法院同意前 |
| 00:05:00,000 | 00:05:02,000 | 那麼我們總統制 |
| 00:05:02,000 | 00:05:04,000 | 總統的一個 |
| 00:05:04,000 | 00:05:06,000 | 產生呢我們也 |
| 00:05:06,000 | 00:05:08,000 | 在這裡也要請教我們的 |
| 00:05:08,000 | 00:05:10,000 | 專家學者給我們提供 |
| 00:05:10,000 | 00:05:12,000 | 寶貴意見 |
| 00:05:12,000 | 00:05:14,000 | 那因為呢我們這一個 |
| 00:05:14,000 | 00:05:16,000 | 這個制度呢從 |
| 00:05:16,000 | 00:05:18,000 | 82年開始由總統 |
| 00:05:18,000 | 00:05:20,000 | 任命那立法院同意 |
| 00:05:20,000 | 00:05:22,000 | 從82年修憲以後呢 |
| 00:05:22,000 | 00:05:24,000 | 因為我們過於相信總統 |
| 00:05:24,000 | 00:05:26,000 | 的一個人格跟 |
| 00:05:26,000 | 00:05:28,000 | 他的一個自立自愛 |
| 00:05:28,000 | 00:05:30,000 | 但是呢我們才發現到說 |
| 00:05:30,000 | 00:05:32,000 | 自愛自愛來行 |
| 00:05:32,000 | 00:05:34,000 | 所以任何制度的一個設計 |
| 00:05:34,000 | 00:05:36,000 | 都應該要有一個開放 |
| 00:05:36,000 | 00:05:38,000 | 而且大家要來找 |
| 00:05:38,000 | 00:05:40,000 | 漏洞的一個集思廣益 |
| 00:05:40,000 | 00:05:42,000 | 公共審查的一個過程 |
| 00:05:42,000 | 00:05:44,000 | 確保公開公平 |
| 00:05:44,000 | 00:05:46,000 | 而不漏漏入 |
| 00:05:46,000 | 00:05:48,000 | 過去國民兩黨 |
| 00:05:48,000 | 00:05:50,000 | 修憲 |
| 00:05:50,000 | 00:05:52,000 | 夾屍的一個狀況 |
| 00:05:52,000 | 00:05:54,000 | 所以呢監察院的存廢呢 |
| 00:05:54,000 | 00:05:56,000 | 已經是社會長期討論的一個 |
| 00:05:56,000 | 00:05:58,000 | 重要的一個憲政改革的議題 |
| 00:05:58,000 | 00:06:00,000 | 那麼 |
| 00:06:00,000 | 00:06:02,000 | 我們剛剛教授也有講 |
| 00:06:02,000 | 00:06:04,000 | 那廢除監察院的 |
| 00:06:04,000 | 00:06:06,000 | 工程非常的浩大 |
| 00:06:06,000 | 00:06:08,000 | 傷筋動骨啊所以我們一定 |
| 00:06:08,000 | 00:06:10,000 | 是要 |
| 00:06:10,000 | 00:06:12,000 | 一定是要 |
| 00:06:12,000 | 00:06:14,000 | 借用我們所有的專家 |
| 00:06:14,000 | 00:06:16,000 | 寫者的一個集思管 |
| 00:06:16,000 | 00:06:18,000 | 找出更好的一個 |
| 00:06:18,000 | 00:06:20,000 | 修憲的一個方法一個 |
| 00:06:20,000 | 00:06:22,000 | 一個體制讓 |
| 00:06:22,000 | 00:06:24,000 | 我們憲政改革呢 |
| 00:06:24,000 | 00:06:26,000 | 變成一個是國家 |
| 00:06:26,000 | 00:06:28,000 | 一個重大的工程需要 |
| 00:06:28,000 | 00:06:30,000 | 朝野共同來承擔 |
| 00:06:30,000 | 00:06:32,000 | 責任以及能夠凝聚 |
| 00:06:32,000 | 00:06:34,000 | 社會各界的一個共識 |
| 00:06:34,000 | 00:06:36,000 | 攜手推動憲政制度的改革 |
| 00:06:36,000 | 00:06:38,000 | 以上謝謝 |
| 00:06:38,000 | 00:06:40,000 | 好謝謝蔡主席 |