iVOD / 170760

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IVOD_ID 170760
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170760
日期 2026-07-29
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-07-29T14:06:28+08:00
結束時間 2026-07-29T14:13:42+08:00
影片長度 00:07:14
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委員名稱 賴士葆
委員發言時間 14:06:28 - 14:13:42
會議時間 2026-07-29T14:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆修憲委員會公聽會(第1場)(事由:討論提綱:自民國80年第一次公布制定中華民國憲法增修條文,並至民國94年第七次增修後,我國逾20年未曾變動之憲政體制於五權分立制度及實務運行產生之困境探討。)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 謝謝主席以及各位先進
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 那麼我記得我剛看台下好幾位教授都是以前我們的國大老同事
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 我記得那時候我們在修憲的時候是1997年
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 今天的修憲的公聽會主要的我們叫trigger的扣板機的是因為
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 有人提到要廢監察院
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 等於是把整個的五權憲法的架構想要往三權分立的方向走
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 這是很大的事情
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 因此在啟動這個修憲
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 我個人一直都有提
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 只要修憲我就提一個案子
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 叫恢復隔奎同意權
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 想當年我在當國大的時候
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 在1997年那時候看了就非常清楚
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 原來中華民國的憲法它是偏向內閣制的
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 也就是說隔奎有同意權
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 有立法委員同意權什麼意思
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 它就有名義基礎
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 可是因為我們立委百分之百的名義
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 我們去同意它
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 它就有間接的名義基礎
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 結果在1997年把它拿掉了
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 拿掉了說要跟法國一樣雙首長制的設計
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 可是各位可以看得很清楚
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 它基本上就是表面上雙首長制
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transcript.whisperx[31].text 爽得不得了
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transcript.whisperx[33].text 從來一年多沒有開記者會
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 為什麼
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 他只做一件事情
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transcript.whisperx[38].text 他找一個豆沙包叫做行政院長
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 哪有立法院讓你去攻讓你去打
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transcript.whisperx[40].text 他躲在後面在總統府裡面納糧
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transcript.whisperx[41].text 所以我們中華民國現在的憲政體制下的總統
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transcript.whisperx[42].text 是全世界權力最大
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transcript.whisperx[46].text 他還是受到國會的制約
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transcript.whisperx[47].text 當司法系統說你的對等關稅是違法
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transcript.whisperx[48].text 他就乖乖鼻子摸下去了
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transcript.whisperx[49].text 跟台灣談了ART就不算數了
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transcript.whisperx[50].text 就停在那裡
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transcript.whisperx[52].text 所以可見得全世界大家都知道
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transcript.whisperx[53].text 權力越大制衡力量應該越大
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transcript.whisperx[57].text 別人不說我們就講725
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transcript.whisperx[60].text 全部滿滿的警務門那些整個全部滿滿的
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transcript.whisperx[61].text 我們的訴求就是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[62].text 從容道歉行政院長下台
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transcript.whisperx[63].text 結果現在行政部門的回答是
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transcript.whisperx[65].text 回去上班啦
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transcript.whisperx[67].text 這麼傲慢的態度
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transcript.whisperx[72].text 當然子彈要飛一飛
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transcript.whisperx[73].text 其他每個人的想法或許不同
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transcript.whisperx[75].text 當我們所有的利器都用了
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transcript.whisperx[76].text 當我們三讀通過的法案
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transcript.whisperx[78].text 這就不是依法行政
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transcript.whisperx[83].text 全世界的民主國家都是依法行政
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transcript.whisperx[89].text 比如說我們上個禮拜才通過
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transcript.whisperx[90].text 未來帳戶對小孩子很好
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transcript.whisperx[94].text 然後再加更多碼不行
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transcript.whisperx[95].text 只有他可以加碼我們不能加碼
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transcript.whisperx[102].text 他的行政院長沒有人用過
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transcript.whisperx[104].text 變本加厲對所有的案子挑三檢視
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transcript.whisperx[109].text 要他點頭他才實施
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transcript.whisperx[111].text 他沒有名利
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transcript.whisperx[112].text 他的名利就一個賴清德
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transcript.whisperx[113].text 我們的名利是全國2300萬人的名利
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transcript.whisperx[115].text 因此我的方案的重點在於
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transcript.whisperx[116].end 379.6
transcript.whisperx[116].text 我覺得萬事莫如非互隔奎同意權
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transcript.whisperx[117].end 380.6
transcript.whisperx[117].text 來得重要
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transcript.whisperx[118].end 383.6
transcript.whisperx[118].text 這一條是重中之重
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transcript.whisperx[119].end 387.6
transcript.whisperx[119].text 這一條可以讓行政院長有名利基礎
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transcript.whisperx[120].end 393.6
transcript.whisperx[120].text 這一條可以讓我們立法院可以制約
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transcript.whisperx[121].end 400.6
transcript.whisperx[121].text 可以制衡可以監督有權無責的超級大總統
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transcript.whisperx[122].end 402.6
transcript.whisperx[122].text 老實不科技講
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transcript.whisperx[123].end 403.6
transcript.whisperx[123].text 現在只要選一個
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transcript.whisperx[124].end 405.6
transcript.whisperx[124].text 其他的都不重要
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transcript.whisperx[125].end 407.6
transcript.whisperx[125].text 只要選一個總統
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transcript.whisperx[126].end 409.6
transcript.whisperx[126].text 中華民國總統就變成皇帝
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transcript.whisperx[127].end 411.6
transcript.whisperx[127].text 所以我們現在等於選皇帝
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transcript.whisperx[128].end 414.6
transcript.whisperx[128].text 一個人他說了算
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transcript.whisperx[129].end 415.6
transcript.whisperx[129].text 這是很悲哀的事情
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transcript.whisperx[130].end 417.6
transcript.whisperx[130].text 所以我的重點就是在於
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transcript.whisperx[131].text 我的修憲提案就是
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transcript.whisperx[132].end 422.6
transcript.whisperx[132].text 非互隔奎同意權
transcript.whisperx[133].start 422.6
transcript.whisperx[133].end 424.6
transcript.whisperx[133].text 這應該是重中之重
transcript.whisperx[134].start 424.6
transcript.whisperx[134].end 427.6
transcript.whisperx[134].text 我也希望所有委員們能夠來支持
transcript.whisperx[135].start 427.6
transcript.whisperx[135].end 430.6
transcript.whisperx[135].text 也希望各位專家學者能夠支持
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transcript.whisperx[136].end 431.6
transcript.whisperx[136].text 謝謝
transcript.whisperx[137].start 431.6
transcript.whisperx[137].end 434.6
transcript.whisperx[137].text 好 謝謝LICE法委員