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顏寬恒 @ 第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議
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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:00,500 | 委員 |
| 00:00:08,260 | 00:00:09,260 | 好 謝謝主席 |
| 00:00:10,340 | 00:00:11,880 | 主席各位歷史觀的大家好 |
| 00:00:12,000 | 00:00:13,720 | 主席有請財政部莊部長 |
| 00:00:16,219 | 00:00:17,320 | 好 請莊部長 |
| 00:00:20,780 | 00:00:21,760 | 謝謝委員是 |
| 00:00:21,860 | 00:00:23,160 | 市委員好 部長 |
| 00:00:23,240 | 00:00:25,660 | 今天是審查海關進口稅者 |
| 00:00:26,700 | 00:00:28,920 | 汽車以及汽車零組件的部分 |
| 00:00:30,800 | 00:00:32,600 | 我想許多委員都有提案建議 |
| 00:00:32,700 | 00:00:35,700 | 但是財政部都未納入參考意見 |
| 00:00:38,160 | 00:00:39,700 | 依據這個關稅法 |
| 00:00:39,800 | 00:00:42,400 | 第100條已簽署的 |
| 00:00:42,500 | 00:00:44,800 | 台美對等貿易協定 |
| 00:00:45,700 | 00:00:48,680 | 美國製的小客車以及汽車零組件 |
| 00:00:48,780 | 00:00:51,080 | 自協定生效日期 |
| 00:00:51,180 | 00:00:54,879 | 均享免關稅的一個待遇 |
| 00:00:55,600 | 00:00:56,100 | 那 |
| 00:00:58,940 | 00:01:03,740 | 這個因為美方還有兩項301的調查完成之後 |
| 00:01:03,840 | 00:01:05,780 | 才會決定最終效率 |
| 00:01:05,880 | 00:01:07,740 | 目前還有產能過剩 |
| 00:01:08,740 | 00:01:10,920 | 調查結果報告還沒有公布 |
| 00:01:11,020 | 00:01:14,820 | 所以我們是要等到301調查結束之後 |
| 00:01:14,920 | 00:01:16,860 | 最終稅率公告 |
| 00:01:16,960 | 00:01:19,020 | 然後才將包含ART |
| 00:01:20,560 | 00:01:21,460 | 投資MOU |
| 00:01:21,560 | 00:01:24,660 | 還有以及這種衝擊影響評估的 |
| 00:01:24,740 | 00:01:26,140 | 送到立法院來審議嗎 |
| 00:01:27,740 | 00:01:28,720 | 是這樣子嗎部長 |
| 00:01:30,420 | 00:01:31,479 | 跟委員報告 |
| 00:01:31,580 | 00:01:33,479 | 台美簽的一個ART |
| 00:01:33,580 | 00:01:34,120 | 還有MOU |
| 00:01:34,220 | 00:01:35,960 | 這是我們雙邊的一個協定 |
| 00:01:36,060 | 00:01:37,920 | 那僅適用在美國 |
| 00:01:38,020 | 00:01:40,259 | 那所簽的ART跟MOU |
| 00:01:40,360 | 00:01:42,600 | 未來會送到大院來做審議 |
| 00:01:42,699 | 00:01:45,199 | 通過以後必須要經過大院審議通過 |
| 00:01:45,300 | 00:01:48,400 | 我們再配合修正海關進口水準 |
| 00:01:48,500 | 00:01:50,039 | 但是也必須只是 |
| 00:01:50,140 | 00:01:54,080 | 我們要根據ART做基礎來修正美國進口的 |
| 00:01:54,740 | 00:01:57,880 | 所以我們在等他的301調查報告結束之後 |
| 00:01:57,979 | 00:02:00,979 | 至於這兩者之間的一個相關的關聯性 |
| 00:02:01,080 | 00:02:04,120 | 我想在我們的OTN的經貿談判辦公室 |
| 00:02:04,220 | 00:02:07,660 | 會跟美方在做相關的協商的時候 |
| 00:02:07,759 | 00:02:09,060 | 會去做討論 |
| 00:02:09,160 | 00:02:09,660 | 是 |
| 00:02:09,759 | 00:02:13,960 | 由於這個降稅措施僅適用美國的產品 |
| 00:02:14,060 | 00:02:15,859 | 所以來自於其他國家 |
| 00:02:15,960 | 00:02:18,359 | 進口的車輛還有汽車零組件 |
| 00:02:18,460 | 00:02:22,500 | 仍然要依照現行稅率來課徵關稅 |
| 00:02:22,680 | 00:02:25,780 | 所以未來會導致國內整車組裝產業 |
| 00:02:25,880 | 00:02:29,580 | 會面臨結構性的一種不公平的競爭 |
| 00:02:29,680 | 00:02:32,620 | 如果使用的零組件並非來自美國 |
| 00:02:32,720 | 00:02:37,520 | 就要負擔5%到17.5%的進口關稅 |
| 00:02:37,620 | 00:02:40,820 | 那可能使整體的生產成本 |
| 00:02:40,920 | 00:02:43,260 | 高於直接進口的整車 |
| 00:02:43,360 | 00:02:45,720 | 所以這種關稅待遇上的差異 |
| 00:02:45,820 | 00:02:49,160 | 一定會削弱國內汽車 |
| 00:02:49,260 | 00:02:51,660 | 這種組裝產業的一個競爭力 |
| 00:02:51,720 | 00:02:53,260 | 對於台灣汽車製造業 |
| 00:02:53,359 | 00:02:56,560 | 恐怕會造成不利的影響 |
| 00:02:56,660 | 00:03:00,160 | 這個我們車價的組成稅制 |
| 00:03:00,260 | 00:03:03,200 | 包含關稅、貨物稅還有營業稅 |
| 00:03:03,300 | 00:03:04,900 | 我們鄰居的國家相比 |
| 00:03:05,000 | 00:03:07,900 | 中國大陸整車進口是15% |
| 00:03:08,000 | 00:03:09,079 | 關稅15% |
| 00:03:09,180 | 00:03:10,620 | 南韓是8% |
| 00:03:10,720 | 00:03:13,320 | 那汽車龍頭就是日本 |
| 00:03:13,420 | 00:03:15,720 | 關稅是零 |
| 00:03:15,820 | 00:03:18,519 | 但是台灣我們還是17.5% |
| 00:03:18,620 | 00:03:20,359 | 這個17.5% |
| 00:03:20,420 | 00:03:24,960 | 我們從政府長期維持17.5%的高關稅 |
| 00:03:25,060 | 00:03:27,700 | 名義上就是要保護國內汽車產業 |
| 00:03:27,800 | 00:03:29,700 | 但是保護了幾十年 |
| 00:03:29,800 | 00:03:31,660 | 我們的核心技術 |
| 00:03:31,760 | 00:03:34,840 | 包括引擎、變速箱等等 |
| 00:03:34,940 | 00:03:37,100 | 還是高度依賴國外進口 |
| 00:03:37,200 | 00:03:40,140 | 我們沒有辦法自主的一個研發 |
| 00:03:40,240 | 00:03:43,580 | 以及我們的這樣子的一個 |
| 00:03:43,680 | 00:03:45,620 | 所謂的製造量 |
| 00:03:45,720 | 00:03:48,040 | 也沒有辦法符合我們自己的需求 |
| 00:03:48,140 | 00:03:50,100 | 所以這個部分 |
| 00:03:50,200 | 00:03:52,440 | 如果車價因為我們三種稅 |
| 00:03:52,540 | 00:03:56,799 | 貨物稅、關稅還有營業稅 |
| 00:03:56,899 | 00:03:59,380 | 加起來總共一部車 |
| 00:03:59,480 | 00:04:02,680 | 就要負擔超過52.5%的稅 |
| 00:04:02,780 | 00:04:04,739 | 100萬的這種國產車 |
| 00:04:04,840 | 00:04:06,880 | 就要負擔的稅是52萬 |
| 00:04:06,980 | 00:04:09,280 | 所以說這樣子的一個高稅率 |
| 00:04:09,380 | 00:04:12,320 | 汽車的車價被墊得這麼高 |
| 00:04:12,420 | 00:04:14,320 | 到最後還是我們國人承擔 |
| 00:04:14,420 | 00:04:15,820 | 還是消費者承擔 |
| 00:04:16,040 | 00:04:18,640 | 這些製造業廠商它並不會吸收 |
| 00:04:18,740 | 00:04:22,120 | 還是轉嫁到我們這個百姓的身上 |
| 00:04:22,219 | 00:04:24,219 | 除了說關稅的問題之外 |
| 00:04:24,320 | 00:04:25,780 | 還有貨物稅 |
| 00:04:25,880 | 00:04:28,480 | 這個財政部說我們的貨物稅 |
| 00:04:28,580 | 00:04:31,460 | 太舊換新可以減生5萬塊這個部分 |
| 00:04:31,560 | 00:04:35,560 | 但是現在普通的國產車都快要百萬 |
| 00:04:35,659 | 00:04:37,460 | 八、九十萬、一百多萬 |
| 00:04:37,560 | 00:04:40,300 | 25%的貨物稅就20幾萬了 |
| 00:04:40,400 | 00:04:43,000 | 對不對?加上這17.5%的關稅 |
| 00:04:43,100 | 00:04:45,600 | 你這5萬塊的定額減免 |
| 00:04:45,680 | 00:04:49,420 | 其實是杯水車薪也不成比例 |
| 00:04:49,520 | 00:04:51,320 | 不只是整車的關稅 |
| 00:04:51,420 | 00:04:54,760 | 包括進口零組件的關稅也很高 |
| 00:04:54,860 | 00:04:58,760 | 像引擎變速箱這些關鍵零件 |
| 00:04:58,860 | 00:05:01,440 | 那又面臨到17.5%的關稅 |
| 00:05:01,540 | 00:05:02,600 | 這些都應該降低 |
| 00:05:02,700 | 00:05:04,200 | 甚至於應該是免稅 |
| 00:05:04,300 | 00:05:06,280 | 這不是只有我們立委提案而已 |
| 00:05:06,380 | 00:05:08,000 | 經濟部也回應支持說 |
| 00:05:08,100 | 00:05:11,080 | 對國內無法生產至關鍵汽車零組件 |
| 00:05:11,180 | 00:05:13,780 | 應實施零關稅政策 |
| 00:05:13,859 | 00:05:15,460 | 所以說我是認為說 |
| 00:05:15,559 | 00:05:18,940 | 財政部也應該要參考本院提案委員 |
| 00:05:19,039 | 00:05:20,900 | 還有我們經濟部的建議 |
| 00:05:21,000 | 00:05:25,000 | 取消汽車零組件關稅的一個這個部分 |
| 00:05:25,099 | 00:05:27,940 | 這樣才有助於整個市場價格 |
| 00:05:28,039 | 00:05:30,419 | 能夠更接近實際的成本 |
| 00:05:30,520 | 00:05:31,619 | 部長 |
| 00:05:31,719 | 00:05:33,219 | 是,跟委員報告 |
| 00:05:33,320 | 00:05:37,559 | 有關國內沒有產自的汽車零組件的關稅 |
| 00:05:37,659 | 00:05:39,179 | 是不是要調降這個部分 |
| 00:05:39,280 | 00:05:42,460 | 經濟部正在辦稅市支出的評估報告 |
| 00:05:42,539 | 00:05:45,340 | 那等到稅市支出評估報告完畢以後 |
| 00:05:45,440 | 00:05:46,940 | 那如果認為是有必要 |
| 00:05:47,039 | 00:05:48,479 | 而且可行而且有效的話 |
| 00:05:48,580 | 00:05:50,520 | 我們再配合再做後續的作業 |
| 00:05:50,620 | 00:05:52,780 | 後續等他報告出來 |
| 00:05:52,880 | 00:05:54,780 | 再來研議看看可不可行 |
| 00:05:54,880 | 00:05:56,979 | 經濟部也說他們也正在做這個 |
| 00:05:57,080 | 00:05:59,820 | 在加緊在做有關稅市支出評估報告 |
| 00:05:59,919 | 00:06:01,919 | 其實我們眼光放遠一點 |
| 00:06:02,020 | 00:06:03,419 | 你調降關稅 |
| 00:06:03,520 | 00:06:06,099 | 隨著進口車量這個價格下降 |
| 00:06:06,200 | 00:06:08,120 | 還有市場需求的增加 |
| 00:06:08,219 | 00:06:11,700 | 那進口車量可能會也是一定會提升 |
| 00:06:11,740 | 00:06:14,640 | 提升之後他帶動了我們公路 |
| 00:06:14,740 | 00:06:16,740 | 公路使用養護費 |
| 00:06:16,840 | 00:06:18,240 | 還有使用牌照稅 |
| 00:06:18,340 | 00:06:21,140 | 還有相關的規費等等也都會增加 |
| 00:06:21,240 | 00:06:22,740 | 那進口車的市場擴大 |
| 00:06:22,840 | 00:06:26,060 | 也會促進汽車銷售維護保養 |
| 00:06:26,159 | 00:06:28,159 | 還有相關服務業的發展 |
| 00:06:28,260 | 00:06:30,860 | 所以也是一樣創造就業機會 |
| 00:06:30,960 | 00:06:33,760 | 並且形成新的稅收來源 |
| 00:06:33,860 | 00:06:34,760 | 所以這個部分 |
| 00:06:34,860 | 00:06:35,960 | 部長 |
| 00:06:36,060 | 00:06:37,159 | 我剛剛聽你的說法就是說 |
| 00:06:37,260 | 00:06:39,960 | 還是有意願要來研議說 |
| 00:06:39,960 | 00:06:44,260 | 對於調降關稅甚至於領營的部分 |
| 00:06:44,359 | 00:06:46,060 | 這個部分還是會有做 |
| 00:06:46,159 | 00:06:47,960 | 我要說明我剛剛講的是 |
| 00:06:48,060 | 00:06:51,239 | 國內沒有產製的汽車零組件 |
| 00:06:51,340 | 00:06:52,440 | 的關稅條件 |
| 00:06:52,539 | 00:06:56,140 | 目前經濟部正在做稅市支出評估報告 |
| 00:06:56,240 | 00:06:56,719 | 是 |
| 00:06:56,820 | 00:06:57,640 | 好 |
| 00:06:57,740 | 00:06:58,679 | 我想這個部分 |
| 00:06:58,780 | 00:07:00,780 | 我剩下利用一點點時間 |
| 00:07:00,880 | 00:07:02,919 | 跟部長再說明一下 |
| 00:07:03,020 | 00:07:06,560 | 因為這個IU所涉及的品項通路實在太多了 |
| 00:07:06,659 | 00:07:08,919 | 那我之前也有建議衛福部 |
| 00:07:08,980 | 00:07:11,080 | 可以跟我們財政部合作 |
| 00:07:11,180 | 00:07:15,060 | 提供民眾一個官方的食安載具查詢平台 |
| 00:07:15,160 | 00:07:18,660 | 讓民眾輸入載具號碼之後 |
| 00:07:18,760 | 00:07:20,960 | 就能夠知道自己什麼時候消費過 |
| 00:07:21,060 | 00:07:23,560 | 什麼樣的自來油商品 |
| 00:07:23,660 | 00:07:26,060 | 但是這個衛福部的政次 |
| 00:07:26,160 | 00:07:27,660 | 又在那邊扯來扯去 |
| 00:07:27,760 | 00:07:30,640 | 說不是每個人都在用載具 |
| 00:07:30,740 | 00:07:32,240 | 部長 |
| 00:07:32,340 | 00:07:34,380 | 我想你們不是也常常說 |
| 00:07:34,480 | 00:07:36,740 | 這個載具的普及率很高嗎 |
| 00:07:36,760 | 00:07:39,240 | 所以既然這樣為什麼做不到 |
| 00:07:39,340 | 00:07:40,340 | 衛福部不願意做 |
| 00:07:40,440 | 00:07:43,100 | 那財政部這邊願不願意挑起這個重擔 |
| 00:07:43,200 | 00:07:46,540 | 由我們財政部主動來研議這個平台 |
| 00:07:46,640 | 00:07:48,080 | 部長願意嗎 |
| 00:07:48,180 | 00:07:50,880 | 您講的是食安的一個平台 |
| 00:07:50,980 | 00:07:54,420 | 那食安的主管機關是衛福部 |
| 00:07:54,520 | 00:07:55,220 | 是衛福部 |
| 00:07:55,320 | 00:07:58,220 | 那哪一些產品有什麼樣的一些問題 |
| 00:07:58,320 | 00:07:59,260 | 它的製造也好 |
| 00:07:59,360 | 00:08:01,960 | 加工或這些販賣回收 |
| 00:08:02,060 | 00:08:05,160 | 這個財政部沒有這個權責來做 |
| 00:08:05,260 | 00:08:06,360 | 這樣的一件事情 |
| 00:08:06,380 | 00:08:07,580 | 而且我們做的也不一樣 |
| 00:08:07,680 | 00:08:08,880 | 我們已經跟他要求了 |
| 00:08:08,980 | 00:08:10,520 | 但是市長的回應就是他 |
| 00:08:10,620 | 00:08:11,820 | 當然我們跟衛福部 |
| 00:08:11,920 | 00:08:14,020 | 是可以做相關的合作 |
| 00:08:14,120 | 00:08:17,720 | 但是衛福部先要把這個平台建置起來 |
| 00:08:17,820 | 00:08:19,200 | 然後我們再來看 |
| 00:08:19,300 | 00:08:22,700 | 透過我們的載具如何去來去做判斷 |
| 00:08:22,800 | 00:08:24,200 | 而且要能夠判斷 |
| 00:08:24,300 | 00:08:25,300 | 因為我在消費的時候 |
| 00:08:25,400 | 00:08:27,100 | 我可能只買了某一個東西 |
| 00:08:27,200 | 00:08:29,240 | 那這個東西是不是屬於有問題的 |
| 00:08:29,340 | 00:08:31,140 | 那個批號如何勾串 |
| 00:08:31,240 | 00:08:32,740 | 這個都還要詳細的去看 |
| 00:08:32,840 | 00:08:34,080 | 你沒有看過 |
| 00:08:34,100 | 00:08:37,440 | 你沒有看過民間自主研發的那個載具 |
| 00:08:37,540 | 00:08:39,340 | 他們已經你只要輸入 |
| 00:08:39,440 | 00:08:43,180 | 就可以查詢到自己購買過多少自然有的商品 |
| 00:08:43,280 | 00:08:44,640 | 沒有道理民間可以做 |
| 00:08:44,740 | 00:08:46,280 | 我們政府不做 |
| 00:08:46,380 | 00:08:50,620 | 這部分以科技的手段來落實食安溯源 |
| 00:08:50,720 | 00:08:53,120 | 我認同用科技的手段來做 |
| 00:08:53,220 | 00:08:56,020 | 對於民眾食安有幫助的一個事項 |
| 00:08:56,120 | 00:08:57,260 | 但是民間可以做的 |
| 00:08:57,360 | 00:08:59,020 | 民間如何去負責 |
| 00:08:59,120 | 00:09:01,160 | 財政部或衛福部要做的話 |
| 00:09:01,260 | 00:09:04,060 | 那它就是一個政府的一個平台 |
| 00:09:04,160 | 00:09:06,600 | 那就不是說我隨便放就可以的 |
| 00:09:06,700 | 00:09:09,400 | 所以我現在建請說我請部長 |
| 00:09:09,500 | 00:09:11,300 | 我們主動去要求 |
| 00:09:11,400 | 00:09:14,780 | 去要求跟衛福部一起來把這事情做好 |
| 00:09:14,880 | 00:09:16,140 | 我們可以聯繫衛福部 |
| 00:09:16,240 | 00:09:17,140 | 看有沒有什麼需要 |
| 00:09:17,240 | 00:09:20,380 | 我們互相可以勾串的一些 |
| 00:09:20,480 | 00:09:22,180 | 這是政府必須要做的 |
| 00:09:22,280 | 00:09:24,080 | 而且要馬上要做的事情好不好 |
| 00:09:24,180 | 00:09:25,080 | 好 |
| 00:09:25,180 | 00:09:26,080 | 部長好 |
| 00:09:26,180 | 00:09:29,260 | 我想說還是要衛福部主責的 |
| 00:09:29,360 | 00:09:31,360 | 他主責但是你要要求他 |
| 00:09:31,460 | 00:09:32,560 | 我們都要求了 |
| 00:09:32,640 | 00:09:34,439 | 是我想委員的要求 |
| 00:09:34,540 | 00:09:35,680 | 對 |
| 00:09:35,780 | 00:09:36,719 | 好謝謝部長 |
| 00:09:36,819 | 00:09:37,680 | 我會轉達委員的要求 |
| 00:09:37,780 | 00:09:38,380 | 是 |