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林德福 @ 第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議
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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:26,000 | 謝謝主席 |
| 00:00:27,000 | 00:00:31,000 | 是不是我來請財政部莊部長 |
| 00:00:31,000 | 00:00:35,000 | 還有經濟部產業發展署的周副署長 |
| 00:00:36,000 | 00:00:38,000 | 請部長請周副署長 |
| 00:00:44,000 | 00:00:45,000 | 委員好 |
| 00:00:45,000 | 00:00:46,000 | 部長你好 |
| 00:00:46,000 | 00:00:52,000 | 部長因為受到中年油脂這個問題的致癌油影響 |
| 00:00:52,000 | 00:00:54,000 | 那很多的這些下游廠商 |
| 00:00:55,000 | 00:01:00,000 | 他們要下架這些商品這個牽連非常的龐大 |
| 00:01:00,000 | 00:01:02,000 | 那有關於營利事業 |
| 00:01:03,000 | 00:01:07,000 | 這個商品這些報廢的損失之認列 |
| 00:01:07,000 | 00:01:13,000 | 目前財政部戶稅署是否有掌握相關的這些數據 |
| 00:01:13,000 | 00:01:14,000 | 有沒有 |
| 00:01:15,000 | 00:01:18,000 | 委員報告對於有關營利事業 |
| 00:01:18,000 | 00:01:21,000 | 他的商品如果有報廢損失的認列 |
| 00:01:21,000 | 00:01:24,000 | 大概有三種一個就是會計師查核簽證報告 |
| 00:01:24,000 | 00:01:26,000 | 然後到時候再提出來 |
| 00:01:26,000 | 00:01:28,000 | 然後再做核實認定 |
| 00:01:28,000 | 00:01:31,000 | 第二個就是由事業主管機關看著他銷毀 |
| 00:01:31,000 | 00:01:34,000 | 然後他向事業主管機關拿到證明 |
| 00:01:34,000 | 00:01:36,000 | 到時候就可以核實認列 |
| 00:01:36,000 | 00:01:38,000 | 第三個就是他自行來做報備 |
| 00:01:38,000 | 00:01:41,000 | 然後只要事實發生30天以內都可以 |
| 00:01:41,000 | 00:01:46,000 | 所以這上面這種方式都可以去向這個國稅局辦理 |
| 00:01:46,000 | 00:01:49,000 | 但是目前前面兩項他是不需要向國稅局報備的 |
| 00:01:49,000 | 00:01:51,000 | 因此到目前為止 |
| 00:01:51,000 | 00:01:57,000 | 我們的國稅局並沒有收到有關相關產生提出來的相關資料 |
| 00:01:57,000 | 00:02:03,000 | 因為本席是希望說財政部對於這些受到牽連的下游廠商 |
| 00:02:03,000 | 00:02:07,000 | 要重寬重塑重減的原則 |
| 00:02:07,000 | 00:02:10,000 | 給予這些專業的一些協助 |
| 00:02:10,000 | 00:02:14,000 | 因為此次中年遊子事件一連串的影響 |
| 00:02:14,000 | 00:02:17,000 | 就財政部目前你們掌握的狀況 |
| 00:02:17,000 | 00:02:28,000 | 是否會對整體營利事業所得稅收造成顯著的這些稅損 |
| 00:02:28,000 | 00:02:33,000 | 因為目前國稅局並沒有還沒有收到相關的具體的資料 |
| 00:02:33,000 | 00:02:37,000 | 也就是說他必須在有關簽證的或者是經過主管機關的時候 |
| 00:02:37,000 | 00:02:40,000 | 他可以在申報的時候也一併舉出證明文件 |
| 00:02:40,000 | 00:02:43,000 | 那來報備的是主動來報備 |
| 00:02:43,000 | 00:02:44,000 | 那目前並沒有 |
| 00:02:44,000 | 00:02:50,000 | 那我相信我們國稅局在處理這個案子的時候一定是會核實 |
| 00:02:50,000 | 00:02:54,000 | 而且會就協助廠商的一個立場來協助他們的 |
| 00:02:54,000 | 00:02:59,000 | 我是希望說財政部你們要主動積極的來發布 |
| 00:02:59,000 | 00:03:03,000 | 因為受牽連的這些廠商太多太多了 |
| 00:03:03,000 | 00:03:07,000 | 因為他下游以後很多你包括7-11 |
| 00:03:07,000 | 00:03:14,000 | 包括7-11啦包括很多那些這個這些廠商啊 |
| 00:03:14,000 | 00:03:18,000 | 幾乎啦很多產品都用到中聯的油 |
| 00:03:18,000 | 00:03:20,000 | 那些全部都要下架 |
| 00:03:20,000 | 00:03:25,000 | 那下架當然會有影響會有衝擊啊會有損失啊 |
| 00:03:25,000 | 00:03:27,000 | 你要是財政部你沒有公告 |
| 00:03:27,000 | 00:03:32,000 | 你沒有去跟這些廠商告知他們說這個你可以來 |
| 00:03:32,000 | 00:03:37,000 | 要等於是要把它做一個程序上的廢掉 |
| 00:03:37,000 | 00:03:39,000 | 然後可以減稅等等 |
| 00:03:39,000 | 00:03:44,000 | 他們怎麼會主動積極的來知道這個事情 |
| 00:03:44,000 | 00:03:48,000 | 委員的建議我想您的建議我們會把納入就是說對於這一次 |
| 00:03:48,000 | 00:03:52,000 | 因為這個油品事件而造成的相關的報廢水利 |
| 00:03:52,000 | 00:03:55,000 | 在申報營利事業所得稅的時候要怎麼樣認列審視 |
| 00:03:55,000 | 00:03:56,000 | 我們來做一個宣導 |
| 00:03:56,000 | 00:03:57,000 | 你們一定要宣導啊 |
| 00:03:57,000 | 00:04:01,000 | 你要針對問題探討怎麼做 |
| 00:04:01,000 | 00:04:03,000 | 然後來解決這個問題 |
| 00:04:03,000 | 00:04:08,000 | 因為很多下游廠商他莫名其妙的受到這樣的衝擊影響 |
| 00:04:08,000 | 00:04:10,000 | 他也不會去伸張 |
| 00:04:10,000 | 00:04:16,000 | 但是你財政部要是有主動積極的來這個發布的話 |
| 00:04:16,000 | 00:04:19,000 | 那我相信他們一定會主動積極來申報 |
| 00:04:19,000 | 00:04:21,000 | 但是一定要附和一定的程序 |
| 00:04:21,000 | 00:04:23,000 | 是的我們會把這個部分 |
| 00:04:23,000 | 00:04:25,000 | 你不能我只知道抽稅 |
| 00:04:25,000 | 00:04:27,000 | 但是他們認列的損失 |
| 00:04:27,000 | 00:04:30,000 | 因為他是很無辜的啊 |
| 00:04:30,000 | 00:04:33,000 | 很多這些廠商是無辜的 |
| 00:04:33,000 | 00:04:38,000 | 那無辜他本身要有一套就是這個 |
| 00:04:38,000 | 00:04:41,000 | 就是怎麼去核報 |
| 00:04:41,000 | 00:04:43,000 | 然後減少他的損失 |
| 00:04:43,000 | 00:04:46,000 | 我是希望財政部在最短時間裡面來發布 |
| 00:04:46,000 | 00:04:50,000 | 好的我們這個部分會照委員的建議來讓大家知道 |
| 00:04:50,000 | 00:04:53,000 | 就是說依照現行的規定可以用什麼樣的方式來做 |
| 00:04:53,000 | 00:04:54,000 | 你最好在禮拜日以前就發布啦 |
| 00:04:54,000 | 00:04:57,000 | 因為這個損失的廠商太多太多了啦 |
| 00:04:57,000 | 00:04:58,000 | 好謝謝 |
| 00:04:58,000 | 00:04:59,000 | 部長 |
| 00:04:59,000 | 00:05:01,000 | 因為國內智庫普遍看好 |
| 00:05:01,000 | 00:05:05,000 | 今年的整個經濟成長率突破10% |
| 00:05:05,000 | 00:05:10,000 | 國花會六月警具對策的信號為41分 |
| 00:05:10,000 | 00:05:13,000 | 那紅燈顯示警具熱絡 |
| 00:05:13,000 | 00:05:19,000 | 此外製造業採購經理人指數60.7% |
| 00:05:19,000 | 00:05:22,000 | 也還處於擴張的階段 |
| 00:05:22,000 | 00:05:27,000 | 但外界認為中東整個局勢有高度 |
| 00:05:27,000 | 00:05:31,000 | 不確定性是下半年全球經濟的長望 |
| 00:05:31,000 | 00:05:33,000 | 不可忽視的隱憂 |
| 00:05:33,000 | 00:05:36,000 | 昨天台灣的股市重挫 |
| 00:05:36,000 | 00:05:38,000 | 2030點 |
| 00:05:38,000 | 00:05:41,000 | 收在4萬1603點 |
| 00:05:41,000 | 00:05:44,000 | 請問財政部對於未來景氣 |
| 00:05:44,000 | 00:05:46,000 | 那個部長你有什麼看法 |
| 00:05:47,000 | 00:05:48,000 | 委員報告 |
| 00:05:48,000 | 00:05:50,000 | 如同剛剛委員所說的 |
| 00:05:50,000 | 00:05:52,000 | 我們的經濟的基本面好 |
| 00:05:52,000 | 00:05:54,000 | 我們的表現相當亮眼 |
| 00:05:54,000 | 00:05:56,000 | 對於經濟成長率主總是公布的 |
| 00:05:56,000 | 00:05:58,000 | 大概預測今年是9.46 |
| 00:05:58,000 | 00:06:01,000 | 而國外還有國內的相關的一些智庫 |
| 00:06:01,000 | 00:06:03,000 | 都認為台灣的經濟經濟成長率 |
| 00:06:03,000 | 00:06:05,000 | 會超過10% |
| 00:06:05,000 | 00:06:07,000 | 我們的出口還有一些 |
| 00:06:07,000 | 00:06:10,000 | 出口的數據以及訂單 |
| 00:06:10,000 | 00:06:13,000 | 都是非常的亮麗這個成績 |
| 00:06:13,000 | 00:06:17,000 | 那我相信大家都會在這方面的努力 |
| 00:06:17,000 | 00:06:20,000 | 那個股市這樣重挫 |
| 00:06:20,000 | 00:06:23,000 | 那你們在整個尤其是國安基金 |
| 00:06:23,000 | 00:06:26,000 | 是不是這個有活進場的必要 |
| 00:06:26,000 | 00:06:28,000 | 目前 |
| 00:06:28,000 | 00:06:29,000 | 跟委員報告 |
| 00:06:29,000 | 00:06:31,000 | 當然股市的一個下跌 |
| 00:06:31,000 | 00:06:32,000 | 有它的諸多因素 |
| 00:06:32,000 | 00:06:33,000 | 包括最近天 |
| 00:06:33,000 | 00:06:34,000 | 就美股也好 |
| 00:06:34,000 | 00:06:36,000 | 日股韓股都是下錯的 |
| 00:06:36,000 | 00:06:39,000 | 那同類股就主要是電子 |
| 00:06:39,000 | 00:06:41,000 | 跟半導體的一些下跌 |
| 00:06:41,000 | 00:06:43,000 | 那我們在台股也是同類股的 |
| 00:06:43,000 | 00:06:44,000 | 只有這個下跌 |
| 00:06:44,000 | 00:06:45,000 | 那剛剛也提告 |
| 00:06:45,000 | 00:06:47,000 | 就台灣的經濟面好 |
| 00:06:47,000 | 00:06:49,000 | 那經濟表現相當亮眼 |
| 00:06:49,000 | 00:06:53,000 | 那而且景氣的燈號也是連續紅燈 |
| 00:06:53,000 | 00:06:55,000 | 那麼對於台股的穩定是有幫助的 |
| 00:06:55,000 | 00:06:58,000 | 那當然您剛剛提到國安基金的部分 |
| 00:06:58,000 | 00:06:59,000 | 那國安基金的幕僚 |
| 00:06:59,000 | 00:07:02,000 | 我們還是持續會關注國際的情勢 |
| 00:07:02,000 | 00:07:03,000 | 還有台股的走勢 |
| 00:07:03,000 | 00:07:06,000 | 當然也要會觀察金管會 |
| 00:07:06,000 | 00:07:08,000 | 有沒有提出相關的一些措施的效果 |
| 00:07:08,000 | 00:07:11,000 | 那我想國安基金的進場 |
| 00:07:11,000 | 00:07:12,000 | 一定有它的一個條件 |
| 00:07:12,000 | 00:07:14,000 | 而且必須要經過 |
| 00:07:14,000 | 00:07:17,000 | 國安基金委員會的決議才會進場 |
| 00:07:17,000 | 00:07:18,000 | 那目前國安基金的幕僚 |
| 00:07:18,000 | 00:07:21,000 | 是持續的關注有關股市的一些動向 |
| 00:07:21,000 | 00:07:23,000 | 以及相關的金管會 |
| 00:07:23,000 | 00:07:24,000 | 如果有相關措施 |
| 00:07:24,000 | 00:07:25,000 | 它的一些成效 |
| 00:07:25,000 | 00:07:28,000 | 我們會按照國安基金的條例 |
| 00:07:28,000 | 00:07:30,000 | 來做觀察跟處理 |
| 00:07:30,000 | 00:07:31,000 | 這樣喔 |
| 00:07:31,000 | 00:07:32,000 | 嗯 |
| 00:07:32,000 | 00:07:33,000 | 根據媒體的報導 |
| 00:07:33,000 | 00:07:36,000 | 目前台灣整個市場國產車 |
| 00:07:36,000 | 00:07:38,000 | 佔比差不多百分之五十一 |
| 00:07:38,000 | 00:07:39,000 | 約二十一萬輛 |
| 00:07:39,000 | 00:07:42,000 | 那二零二五年前三大進口來源 |
| 00:07:42,000 | 00:07:44,000 | 依序為日本百分之四十二 |
| 00:07:44,000 | 00:07:47,000 | 德國百分之二十六 |
| 00:07:47,000 | 00:07:49,000 | 以美國百分之六 |
| 00:07:49,000 | 00:07:52,000 | 那我請問我們財政部跟經濟部 |
| 00:07:52,000 | 00:07:56,000 | 那目前除了美方有明確要求 |
| 00:07:56,000 | 00:07:58,000 | 調降汽車關稅外 |
| 00:07:58,000 | 00:08:02,000 | 是我還沒有其他的國家或外國的商會 |
| 00:08:02,000 | 00:08:06,000 | 主動要求調降我國汽車的關稅 |
| 00:08:06,000 | 00:08:07,000 | 部長有沒有 |
| 00:08:07,000 | 00:08:10,000 | 有關汽車的關稅 |
| 00:08:10,000 | 00:08:12,000 | 剛好我們在報告裡面提到的是 |
| 00:08:12,000 | 00:08:14,000 | 我們加入WTO以後 |
| 00:08:14,000 | 00:08:15,000 | 有關承諾的一個項目 |
| 00:08:15,000 | 00:08:17,000 | 那十七點五也維持到現在 |
| 00:08:17,000 | 00:08:20,000 | 那我們跟台美在關稅談判的時候 |
| 00:08:20,000 | 00:08:25,000 | 當然對於美方的進口車的關稅有一些協議 |
| 00:08:25,000 | 00:08:27,000 | 那對於其他國家的要求 |
| 00:08:27,000 | 00:08:31,000 | 其實基本上關稅涉及到產業的一個發展 |
| 00:08:31,000 | 00:08:33,000 | 那經濟部就非常重視 |
| 00:08:33,000 | 00:08:35,000 | 也提出相關的意見 |
| 00:08:35,000 | 00:08:37,000 | 對於汽車產業要非常重 |
| 00:08:37,000 | 00:08:38,000 | 要注意這個 |
| 00:08:38,000 | 00:08:39,000 | 如果全面下降的話 |
| 00:08:39,000 | 00:08:41,000 | 對汽車產業的影響 |
| 00:08:41,000 | 00:08:43,000 | 那其他國家提出的話 |
| 00:08:43,000 | 00:08:45,000 | 未來其實可以作為 |
| 00:08:45,000 | 00:08:48,000 | 未來我們跟他們做相關談判的一些籌碼 |
| 00:08:48,000 | 00:08:49,000 | 我想這個是不是可以 |
| 00:08:49,000 | 00:08:51,000 | 由經濟部也再來做一些補充 |
| 00:08:51,000 | 00:08:52,000 | 那個經濟部 |
| 00:08:52,000 | 00:08:56,000 | 這個周副署長你有沒有什麼看法 |
| 00:08:56,000 | 00:08:57,000 | 產業和產署 |
| 00:08:57,000 | 00:09:03,000 | 是 剛才委員詢問就是有關外界有沒有針對 |
| 00:09:03,000 | 00:09:05,000 | 整車進口關稅的部分對於其他國家 |
| 00:09:05,000 | 00:09:08,000 | 是不是也有一併調降的這樣的訴求 |
| 00:09:08,000 | 00:09:09,000 | 那其實是有的 |
| 00:09:09,000 | 00:09:11,000 | 外界非常關心 |
| 00:09:11,000 | 00:09:12,000 | 除了對美國以外 |
| 00:09:12,000 | 00:09:14,000 | 其他國家到底適不適用 |
| 00:09:14,000 | 00:09:17,000 | 例如說按照WTO的一些相關規定 |
| 00:09:17,000 | 00:09:19,000 | 是不是應該要併同適用 |
| 00:09:19,000 | 00:09:21,000 | 那經濟部的立場是這一次 |
| 00:09:21,000 | 00:09:24,000 | 台美關稅的協議是雙邊的協議 |
| 00:09:24,000 | 00:09:26,000 | 那僅適用在雙邊 |
| 00:09:26,000 | 00:09:28,000 | 那不適用在其他國家 |
| 00:09:28,000 | 00:09:30,000 | 那在WTO的規定裡面 |
| 00:09:30,000 | 00:09:32,000 | 那裡面也有明確的提到 |
| 00:09:32,000 | 00:09:34,000 | 如果是屬於雙邊協議的話 |
| 00:09:34,000 | 00:09:36,000 | 是可以不適用到其他國家 |
| 00:09:36,000 | 00:09:39,000 | 因為那個很多立委提案說 |
| 00:09:39,000 | 00:09:41,000 | 提案說希望降低整個汽車 |
| 00:09:41,000 | 00:09:44,000 | 以及零組件進口的關稅 |
| 00:09:44,000 | 00:09:47,000 | 主要是減少民眾購車的成本 |
| 00:09:47,000 | 00:09:51,000 | 更有助於未來CPTPP的談判 |
| 00:09:51,000 | 00:09:54,000 | 本席是希望說海關進口稅則 |
| 00:09:54,000 | 00:09:58,000 | 減免汽車關稅完成立法後 |
| 00:09:58,000 | 00:09:59,000 | 財政部跟經濟部 |
| 00:09:59,000 | 00:10:03,000 | 要確保民眾購買汽車時 |
| 00:10:03,000 | 00:10:06,000 | 能夠享受到減稅的紅利 |
| 00:10:06,000 | 00:10:10,000 | 那個副署長你有什麼看法 |
| 00:10:10,000 | 00:10:13,000 | 是 針對整車關稅降稅的部分 |
| 00:10:13,000 | 00:10:16,000 | 經濟部是認為在產業上面 |
| 00:10:16,000 | 00:10:18,000 | 在國家財政方面 |
| 00:10:18,000 | 00:10:20,000 | 還有包含雙邊協議 |
| 00:10:20,000 | 00:10:22,000 | 其實都會造成一些衝擊 |
| 00:10:22,000 | 00:10:24,000 | 那我們是認為現階段 |
| 00:10:24,000 | 00:10:27,000 | 目前是暫時不適合來推動 |
| 00:10:27,000 | 00:10:30,000 | 相關的整車降稅的一些措施 |
| 00:10:30,000 | 00:10:33,000 | 那我請問根據經濟部掌握的數據 |
| 00:10:33,000 | 00:10:38,000 | 我國汽車產業這個年產值差不多5000億元 |
| 00:10:38,000 | 00:10:41,000 | 那工廠加速差不多有2700家 |
| 00:10:41,000 | 00:10:44,000 | 受到美國關稅的衝擊 |
| 00:10:44,000 | 00:10:48,000 | 美方要求我方全面開放汽車市場 |
| 00:10:48,000 | 00:10:52,000 | 為了降低對國內整個汽車產業的衝擊 |
| 00:10:52,000 | 00:10:56,000 | 經濟部規劃了30億元的專款 |
| 00:10:56,000 | 00:10:59,000 | 來推動車型天下計畫 |
| 00:10:59,000 | 00:11:03,000 | 預計協助台灣這些汽車產業跨出內需 |
| 00:11:03,000 | 00:11:05,000 | 佈局全球 |
| 00:11:05,000 | 00:11:08,000 | 那車型天下計畫出口專案 |
| 00:11:08,000 | 00:11:11,000 | 由政府來補助廠商一半的金額 |
| 00:11:11,000 | 00:11:15,000 | 那我請問經濟部到今年6月中旬公佈後 |
| 00:11:15,000 | 00:11:18,000 | 目前有多少家廠商來申請 |
| 00:11:18,000 | 00:11:22,000 | 那30億元到底還剩多少 |
| 00:11:22,000 | 00:11:24,000 | 是不是你也做一個報告 |
| 00:11:24,000 | 00:11:26,000 | 好 跟委員報告 |
| 00:11:26,000 | 00:11:30,000 | 6月15號我們公佈了車型天下的補助方案 |
| 00:11:30,000 | 00:11:33,000 | 到8月底才截止 |
| 00:11:33,000 | 00:11:36,000 | 到目前為止是有兩個案子來提案 |
| 00:11:36,000 | 00:11:39,000 | 所以提案之後還需要經過審查 |
| 00:11:39,000 | 00:11:42,000 | 才能確定最後的補助比例跟補助金額 |
| 00:11:42,000 | 00:11:45,000 | 那目前這30億是還沒有支應出去 |
| 00:11:45,000 | 00:11:47,000 | 30億還沒有支應 |
| 00:11:47,000 | 00:11:50,000 | 那我請問那個下年度會繼續編嗎 |
| 00:11:50,000 | 00:11:54,000 | 這個是用韌性特別預算裡面匡列額度來執行 |
| 00:11:54,000 | 00:11:57,000 | 我是希望說你們一定要 |
| 00:11:57,000 | 00:12:00,000 | 就是針對這些確實有受到衝擊的 |
| 00:12:00,000 | 00:12:03,000 | 要有一些支持他們的想法 |
| 00:12:03,000 | 00:12:05,000 | 讓他們能夠永續 |
| 00:12:05,000 | 00:12:07,000 | 繼續能夠生存 |
| 00:12:07,000 | 00:12:10,000 | 那你也要定期跟我們財委會的委員來報告 |
| 00:12:10,000 | 00:12:13,000 | 到底支用的情況怎麼樣 |
| 00:12:13,000 | 00:12:16,000 | 到8月8月以後你們要來做一個報告 |
| 00:12:16,000 | 00:12:18,000 | 好 謝謝 |