| IVOD_ID |
170709 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170709 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
公聽會-2026071641 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
召開「如何藉由無人載具專法，強化國防自主促進國際合作發展本土產業」公聽會 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
公聽會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會公聽會（事由：召開「如何藉由無人載具專法，強化國防自主促進國際合作發展本土產業」公聽會） |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-23T09:52:42+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-23T10:03:22+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:40 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/7cefb85d66825e78703fea143e4f76712eff4d1fb719c76dc53e6923c34426e32d8f15caca8ddabc5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:52:42 - 10:03:22 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會公聽會（事由：召開「如何藉由無人載具專法，強化國防自主促進國際合作發展本土產業」公聽會） |
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好,我們現在請這個鍾嘉斌委員發言 |
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謝謝主席,今天的公聽會剛剛已經聽了相關的主管機關、列席代表的說明 |
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也聽到了15位學者參加當中前兩位剛好都是有軍方背景代表的空軍跟海軍的發言 |
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很有意思的是,在這一次之前立法院三個政黨黨團都推出了自己的版本 |
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其中比較有爭議的就是要交付給國防委員來主審 |
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但是最後依在野黨的多數交付給經濟委員來主審 |
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但是很有趣的,首先在野黨推薦的委員都是軍方的代表 |
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但是此刻在群賢101有產業界的代表 |
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他們因為今天不是發言人專家學者,可是他們很關心可以看到我們全場的轉播實況 |
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除了這些產業界在看之外,還有誰在看呢? |
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還有的就是下一頁,無人載具的預算動向,投資大眾都在看 |
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恐怕這最近將近半個月以來,台灣社會最關注的新聞不見得是無人機專法 |
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而是我們的股市的行情 |
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可是當中牽動的產業新聞的是什麼? |
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首先在1月20號,行政院編了1.25兆國防任性特別預算之後 |
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儘管有在野黨質疑特別預算的必要性 |
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剛剛的發言代表也有說,現在國家有遇到戰爭的威脅嗎? |
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需要緊急的編列特別預算嗎?這樣是不是在留子孫呢? |
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但是事實上最後,這樣的一個特別預算還是在5月8號的時候 |
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在野黨要求要刪掉4700億,4700億後還是通過了 |
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我要強調一次,儘管在野黨的主張是認為不應該編列特別預算 |
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不應該在留子孫,並沒有迫切的需要,但是還是通過了,但是砍了4700億 |
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126 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
130 |
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當時我們看一下,在行政院發表1.25兆的時候 |
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| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
134 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
相關國內的無人載具軍工股就急急漲停,收紅 |
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134 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
140 |
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但是當5月8號,在野黨多數刪減了4700億 |
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140 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
147 |
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全部的無人載具預算砍光之後,無人載具的概念股就集體鐵停收黑 |
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147 |
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150 |
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但是到了6月18號,行政院再接再厲 |
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150 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
155 |
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又提出了2100億要採購三型的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
155 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
160 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
這時候在四天後,我們看到無人載具概念股又多加漲停收紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
161 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
168 |
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然而就在前天,我們看到國民黨提案要統三行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
168 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
175 |
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行政院六年計畫當中,統籌型的440億無人載具的預算之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
175 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
181 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
就在昨天7月22號,無人機的概念股又急停,跌停收黑 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
181 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
184 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
難不成在野黨是有人在炒股嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
184 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
188 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
要放空無人機產業相關的產業嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
188 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
194 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
我很懷疑,但是不應該為了政黨利益、政治惡鬥、破壞產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
194 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
198 |
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還有相關台灣社會投資大眾的權益,我們往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
198 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
203 |
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好,那我們先探探到底這個2100億的行政院版 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
203 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
207 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
跟國民黨版的2400億差別在哪裡? |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
207 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
214 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
我們打個比方好了,父母給孩子求學中的孩子每個月1萬塊的生活費 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
214 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
219 |
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孩子問爸爸媽媽說,哎呀,我需要電腦打報告,大概需要3萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
219 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
224 |
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父母說,好啊,我給你買好一點的,給你4萬塊的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
224 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
228 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
但是接下來又告訴你說,接下來每個月的生活費5千塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
228 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
233 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
你分8個月存起來就可以買了,這不是笑話嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
233 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
238 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
行政院表達我們需要2100億額外的特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
238 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
243 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
在年度預算之外,要2100億的特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
243 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
249 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
國民黨團很慷慨,說2100億太少了,我給你2400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
249 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
254 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
但是分6年,每年的從你的年度預算扣400億下來發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
254 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
261 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
這個叫做明給止砍,有給的更多嗎?沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
261 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
266 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
哪一個父母告訴你孩子這樣的話,一定是被他笑死,往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
266 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
270 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
所以說國民黨版的年度預算看得到吃不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
270 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
276 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
我們看到最近的媒體報導,產業說什麼?需要可預期的國家資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
276 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
280 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
很多產業在初期發展的時候,為什麼軍工產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
280 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
286 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
因為民間多數不會採購,一定是靠國家的採購來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
286 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
289 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
試想目前我們看到無人載具的最大應用是在哪裡? |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
289 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
295 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
是在噴農藥嗎?是在空拍嗎?是在海上救援嗎?錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
295 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
298 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
現在台灣跟世界各地大家看到無人載具最大應用 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
298 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
305 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
就是在二戰爭的戰場上,看到了無人機大量的減少守方的人員傷亡 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
305 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
312 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
它用不對稱的戰役方式,造成了給侵略者非常大的一個制衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
312 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
317 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
我們看到烏克蘭的無人機飛越一兩千公里去轟炸俄羅斯 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
317 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
320 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
包括西伯利亞的煉油廠,告訴侵略者 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
320 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
325 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
侵略者不能憑藉你的人多,不能憑藉你的炮火力,犀利 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
325 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
328 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
你就可以任意的去欺負鄰居 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
328 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
333 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
台灣跟其他民主國家需要這樣的方式來告訴全世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
333 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
337 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
這些野心的侵略國家不可輕舉妄動 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
337 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
344 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
結果我們看到國民黨的預算,年年拖啊,去年也拖,今年也拖 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
344 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
349 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
我們行政院在依憲法有法定預算的編制權 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
349 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
352 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
送到立法院,立法院當然可以審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
352 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
354 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
認為太多當然可以砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
354 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
358 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
但是沒有荒唐到說今年的預算到現在快八月了 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
358 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
360 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
立法院還沒有完成審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
360 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
363 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
這是破天荒的憲政恥辱 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
363 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
366 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
立法院的多數應該要來面對,往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
366 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
368 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
所以我們再來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
368 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
371 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
好,所以兩手策略先砍再補償啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
371 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
374 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
對不起,上一頁,第五頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
374 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
377 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
所以國民黨,對不起再往上跳 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
377 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
384 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
好,我們看到了這是國民黨目前提出來的2400億6年的年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
384 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
385 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
好,往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
385 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
388 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
但是現在就在前天剛剛說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
388 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
395 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
442億無人載具的統籌型計畫分在未來的六年要執行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
395 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
401 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
國民黨黨團已經先放話,說要通通刪掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
401 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
406 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
那結果呢,先刪1.25兆當中的4700億 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
406 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
410 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
在喊停6年的無人載具產業發展統籌型計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
410 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
415 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
立法院不是用預算權,在預算審查的時候進行刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
415 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
421 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
而是透過憲政機關目前他對立法院有載製的多數 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
421 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
他先放話,恐嚇行政權 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
427 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
這不是憲政機關應有的作為,往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
427 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
432 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
所以在這之後,社會集體反彈,業者反彈,民眾很疑惑 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
432 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
437 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
難道國民黨是希望年輕人上戰場,還是無人機上戰場 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
437 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
441 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
結果就有賴斯堡委員得到43個連署 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
441 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
447 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
所以我們合理的認為,賴斯堡委員的提案是代表著國民黨的留一手 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
447 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
452 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
他說我砍了你4700億,我又否定了你的442億 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
452 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
454 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
我會補給你500億 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
454 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
457 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
什麼方式?特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
457 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
461 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
國民黨不是口口聲聲說,在預算說特別預算不需要嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
461 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
464 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
是債留子孫嗎?現在他也說了500億可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
464 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
469 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
2000億是債留子孫,500億是什麼?500億是給你棒棒糖安慰你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
469 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
473 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
所以我們看到了,先砍國防部2100億,又給經濟部2400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
473 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
478 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
然後呢,現在統三442億,現在又提案要給500億 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
478 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
482 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
剛剛有發言的專家說,我們看到的是行政院版 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
482 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
485 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
他可能沒有看到有賴斯堡的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
485 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
489 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
賴斯堡的版本,連署的都是國民黨的委員,往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
489 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
493 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
所以我們很清楚的要告訴我們的社會大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
493 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
496 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
其實目前,對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
496 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
501 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
我們是支持行政院版的自主無人載具採購特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
501 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
503 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
以特別預算的方式編列後事國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
503 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
506 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
我們對於在野黨兩手策略的年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
506 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
509 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
化蛇添足,看到到吃不到,先砍再補,杯水車薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
509 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
唐薩外界的質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
514 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
接下來呢,我要說明的 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
514 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
519 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
在昨天已經通過院會交付本委員審查的四個版本當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
519 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
522 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
包括本席的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
522 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
529 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
其實當中,除了也是參照行政院2100億的特別預算額度之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
529 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
這裡呢,回應剛剛有學者專家提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
535 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
有沒有包含產業發展的部分,有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
535 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
537 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
有的,有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
537 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
540 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
我們的版本有包含產業發展的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
540 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
544 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
那麼關於到這裡面,有一些有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
544 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
548 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
如果現在國防採購有弊案,有廠商不無資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
548 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
有依條約不能履約 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
那我們很好奇啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
558 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
最近媒體報導上看到的什麼馬桶製造商啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
558 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
560 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
可以來賣炸藥啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
560 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
562 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
這樣的一個形容充斥著在野黨的言論 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
562 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
564 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
但是我們看到背後是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
564 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
568 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
不要的是假質詢之名,行破壞之實 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
568 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
571 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
台灣的國防採購非常的辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
571 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
574 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
在國際市場上要突破中共的打壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
574 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
取得這些供應商他們難得的供應的來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
580 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
往往要透過不同的管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
580 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
585 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
更何況,如果用這種廠商資格來質疑採購的正當性 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
585 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
587 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
跟他的供應的能力的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
587 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
590 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
現在我們看到的無人載具的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
590 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
594 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
哪一個是向美國傳統的軍工大廠所提供的 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
594 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
596 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
都是新創公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
596 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
599 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
而且迭代更新提到反制無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
599 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
601 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
其實這是台灣更重要的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
601 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
604 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
反制無人機這種當然還在發展中 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
604 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
607 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
就是因為在發展中能夠先取得的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
607 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
610 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
才能夠在未來面對對方用無人機來攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
610 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
614 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
我們才有防禦上的這樣的可行性 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
614 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
617 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
所以現在的軍工產業國防採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
617 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
623 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
不是在產購成熟的高大富的傳統軍備 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
623 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
627 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
我們要投資未來型的防衛性的武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
627 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
629 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
就是無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
629 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
633 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
希望我們在野黨的朋友能夠秉持國家利益優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
633 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
637 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
能夠來支持行政院版的2100億特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
637 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
638 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
謝謝 |