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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:09,000 | 好 謝謝主席 有請部長 |
| 00:00:09,000 | 00:00:13,000 | 請石崇良部長 |
| 00:00:13,000 | 00:00:15,000 | 好 黃委員好 |
| 00:00:15,000 | 00:00:20,000 | 看一下 我想今天跟委員們都討了很多 |
| 00:00:20,000 | 00:00:23,000 | 那部長也很辛苦 今天一整天 |
| 00:00:23,000 | 00:00:25,000 | 我今天要跟你談的就是說 |
| 00:00:25,000 | 00:00:29,000 | 整個我們在這個石安雲這邊的一個建置 |
| 00:00:29,000 | 00:00:31,000 | 到底在這一次裡頭的 |
| 00:00:31,000 | 00:00:34,000 | 有沒有發揮一些效果 |
| 00:00:34,000 | 00:00:37,000 | 所以我想要先請教一下部長 |
| 00:00:37,000 | 00:00:43,000 | 目前如果按照你們這些的數據來看的情況之下 |
| 00:00:43,000 | 00:00:46,000 | 讓我直接看這個 |
| 00:00:46,000 | 00:00:48,000 | 現在我根據你們的報告 |
| 00:00:48,000 | 00:00:51,000 | 因為我這個資料是之前比較舊的這個資料 |
| 00:00:51,000 | 00:00:55,000 | 現在目前的話 我們總共下架應該是 |
| 00:00:55,000 | 00:00:59,000 | 大概應該是2.89萬還是什麼 |
| 00:00:59,000 | 00:01:01,000 | 數字 |
| 00:01:01,000 | 00:01:04,000 | 數字 就是那7P的話是 |
| 00:01:04,000 | 00:01:07,000 | 應該是3千多 |
| 00:01:07,000 | 00:01:10,000 | 2700多噸 |
| 00:01:10,000 | 00:01:12,000 | 2700多噸 |
| 00:01:12,000 | 00:01:14,000 | 不過這個是7P |
| 00:01:14,000 | 00:01:16,000 | 委員這個可能是第一批 |
| 00:01:16,000 | 00:01:18,000 | 應該是在第一批 |
| 00:01:18,000 | 00:01:20,000 | 所以總共 我記得 |
| 00:01:20,000 | 00:01:22,000 | 我根據你們的報告 |
| 00:01:22,000 | 00:01:25,000 | 就是說這個最新的一個數據來看的話 |
| 00:01:25,000 | 00:01:27,000 | 應該總共一開始的時候 |
| 00:01:27,000 | 00:01:29,000 | 30個批次 |
| 00:01:29,000 | 00:01:34,000 | 它生產的量大概加起來應該是差不多2.89 |
| 00:01:34,000 | 00:01:37,000 | 對不對 2.89萬公噸 |
| 00:01:37,000 | 00:01:39,000 | 然後再來的話是說 |
| 00:01:39,000 | 00:01:42,000 | 到了你們的報告的第三頁 |
| 00:01:42,000 | 00:01:44,000 | 第三頁這邊7P |
| 00:01:44,000 | 00:01:46,000 | 在下架回收那裡的話 |
| 00:01:46,000 | 00:01:50,000 | 7P就是2771.2公噸 |
| 00:01:50,000 | 00:01:53,000 | 然後預防性下架是5314 |
| 00:01:53,000 | 00:01:55,000 | 現在這個預防性下架這邊的話 |
| 00:01:55,000 | 00:01:58,000 | 它是回收嗎還是 |
| 00:01:58,000 | 00:02:01,000 | 預防性下架這個製作會怎樣 |
| 00:02:01,000 | 00:02:03,000 | 我們應該是這樣 |
| 00:02:03,000 | 00:02:05,000 | 昨天因為我們已經把它明確區隔 |
| 00:02:05,000 | 00:02:08,000 | 這7P就是強制性下架 |
| 00:02:08,000 | 00:02:10,000 | 然後回收銷毀 |
| 00:02:10,000 | 00:02:12,000 | 所以它就不會再有重新上架 |
| 00:02:12,000 | 00:02:14,000 | 那這個量呢 |
| 00:02:14,000 | 00:02:17,000 | 我們目前回收的是2794噸 |
| 00:02:17,000 | 00:02:23,000 | 那麼另外的19P已經都足批檢驗合格過了 |
| 00:02:23,000 | 00:02:26,000 | 所以你的報告第三頁的23P預防性下架 |
| 00:02:26,000 | 00:02:29,000 | 那裡頭是5314 |
| 00:02:29,000 | 00:02:32,000 | 那個是之前預防性下架 |
| 00:02:32,000 | 00:02:35,000 | 那現在它這一個部分是可以上架了 |
| 00:02:35,000 | 00:02:37,000 | 好 我現在為什麼問這些就是說 |
| 00:02:37,000 | 00:02:39,000 | 光我們委員或者是這類媒體 |
| 00:02:39,000 | 00:02:41,000 | 或是民眾在看這類數據 |
| 00:02:41,000 | 00:02:44,000 | 就是可能再請你們整理得更清楚 |
| 00:02:44,000 | 00:02:46,000 | 雖然每天都會更新 |
| 00:02:46,000 | 00:02:48,000 | 你看我要找老半天也要跟你對 |
| 00:02:48,000 | 00:02:50,000 | 那我相信一般民眾更辛苦 |
| 00:02:50,000 | 00:02:52,000 | 我現在的問題就是說 |
| 00:02:52,000 | 00:02:55,000 | 在我們這一個食品雲這邊的話 |
| 00:02:55,000 | 00:02:58,000 | 基本上這都是你們的官網 |
| 00:02:58,000 | 00:03:00,000 | 就是食安雲食品 |
| 00:03:00,000 | 00:03:03,000 | 總共這裡頭的話大概跨6個部會 |
| 00:03:03,000 | 00:03:05,000 | 大概19個系統 |
| 00:03:05,000 | 00:03:08,000 | 那當然在你們衛福部裡頭 |
| 00:03:08,000 | 00:03:10,000 | 會在間接外面的 |
| 00:03:10,000 | 00:03:12,000 | 那主要我們看衛福部食藥署這邊的話 |
| 00:03:12,000 | 00:03:18,000 | 那它會有非登不可非報非追非驗非機 |
| 00:03:18,000 | 00:03:20,000 | 那請教各位 |
| 00:03:20,000 | 00:03:22,000 | 非登不可 |
| 00:03:22,000 | 00:03:25,000 | 我們這一次有紙有品的這幾家 |
| 00:03:25,000 | 00:03:28,000 | 從中聯到第二層 |
| 00:03:28,000 | 00:03:30,000 | 甚至到下一層 |
| 00:03:30,000 | 00:03:32,000 | 這些食品加工製造等等 |
| 00:03:32,000 | 00:03:34,000 | 都有登 |
| 00:03:34,000 | 00:03:37,000 | 跟委員說明確實在這一個事件之後 |
| 00:03:37,000 | 00:03:39,000 | 我們也在檢討這個食品雲 |
| 00:03:39,000 | 00:03:41,000 | 應該要再精進 |
| 00:03:41,000 | 00:03:43,000 | 因為我們過去呢 |
| 00:03:43,000 | 00:03:45,000 | 我先不用精進 |
| 00:03:45,000 | 00:03:47,000 | 我先看說40它現在有沒有登 |
| 00:03:47,000 | 00:03:49,000 | 那它現況 |
| 00:03:49,000 | 00:03:50,000 | 它有登 |
| 00:03:50,000 | 00:03:51,000 | 它現況是這樣 |
| 00:03:51,000 | 00:03:54,000 | 我們現在的規定值登到製造業 |
| 00:03:54,000 | 00:03:56,000 | 所以販售業沒有登 |
| 00:03:56,000 | 00:03:58,000 | 所以製造業在 |
| 00:03:58,000 | 00:04:00,000 | 中聯有主有登 |
| 00:04:00,000 | 00:04:02,000 | 然後下來的販家 |
| 00:04:02,000 | 00:04:03,000 | 它的產品都有 |
| 00:04:03,000 | 00:04:06,000 | 然後它賣出去如果試到製造業的 |
| 00:04:06,000 | 00:04:08,000 | 也都登了 |
| 00:04:08,000 | 00:04:10,000 | 你說賣到聯華 |
| 00:04:10,000 | 00:04:11,000 | 聯華也要登啊 |
| 00:04:11,000 | 00:04:13,000 | 對對對它是製造業的話 |
| 00:04:13,000 | 00:04:15,000 | 但是如果它賣到的 |
| 00:04:15,000 | 00:04:17,000 | 譬如說是賣到Costco |
| 00:04:17,000 | 00:04:18,000 | 像這個 |
| 00:04:18,000 | 00:04:20,000 | 這個就是它是屬於販售業 |
| 00:04:20,000 | 00:04:22,000 | 那這個部分就沒有 |
| 00:04:22,000 | 00:04:24,000 | 那就是要跟經濟部再串一下 |
| 00:04:24,000 | 00:04:25,000 | 對 |
| 00:04:25,000 | 00:04:28,000 | 那就要可能要去串電子發票系統 |
| 00:04:28,000 | 00:04:30,000 | 就是財政部這邊可能會 |
| 00:04:30,000 | 00:04:33,000 | 比較容易掌握整個產品的流向 |
| 00:04:33,000 | 00:04:34,000 | 這是第一個 |
| 00:04:34,000 | 00:04:35,000 | 那我先確認這件事 |
| 00:04:35,000 | 00:04:37,000 | 第三個是 |
| 00:04:37,000 | 00:04:39,000 | 追追不可 |
| 00:04:39,000 | 00:04:40,000 | 就是在追的時候 |
| 00:04:40,000 | 00:04:42,000 | 應該是很容易就追得到啊 |
| 00:04:42,000 | 00:04:44,000 | 就是為什麼要拖那麼久 |
| 00:04:44,000 | 00:04:46,000 | 因為你登入進去的量 |
| 00:04:46,000 | 00:04:48,000 | 一定是P號P次對不對 |
| 00:04:48,000 | 00:04:50,000 | 我生產多少工對嘛等等 |
| 00:04:50,000 | 00:04:52,000 | 所以這一塊 |
| 00:04:52,000 | 00:04:53,000 | 我現在看這些數據的話 |
| 00:04:53,000 | 00:04:54,000 | 應該是從這些系統 |
| 00:04:54,000 | 00:04:56,000 | 直接就撈出來就好 |
| 00:04:56,000 | 00:04:58,000 | 可是我問到私下的 |
| 00:04:58,000 | 00:05:00,000 | 就是還在e-sale |
| 00:05:00,000 | 00:05:03,000 | 然後還在給我人工爆燈這些 |
| 00:05:03,000 | 00:05:04,000 | 這個這個 |
| 00:05:04,000 | 00:05:06,000 | 應該是 |
| 00:05:06,000 | 00:05:09,000 | 就像剛才部長說的提到的 |
| 00:05:09,000 | 00:05:11,000 | 因為是在製造業的 |
| 00:05:11,000 | 00:05:13,000 | 販售業那一端之後 |
| 00:05:13,000 | 00:05:16,000 | 的確是我們在這一次的修法裡面 |
| 00:05:16,000 | 00:05:18,000 | 那前面的也是啊 |
| 00:05:18,000 | 00:05:19,000 | 所以我是說 |
| 00:05:19,000 | 00:05:21,000 | 因為你系統都建了 |
| 00:05:21,000 | 00:05:23,000 | 系統都建的情況之下 |
| 00:05:23,000 | 00:05:25,000 | 你花很多錢啊 |
| 00:05:25,000 | 00:05:27,000 | 我的意思是說這花很多錢 |
| 00:05:27,000 | 00:05:29,000 | 這個還是10.0 |
| 00:05:29,000 | 00:05:31,000 | 109年到112 |
| 00:05:31,000 | 00:05:32,000 | 這個是大概 |
| 00:05:32,000 | 00:05:33,000 | 這還是小錢 |
| 00:05:33,000 | 00:05:35,000 | 他之前的第一代的話 |
| 00:05:35,000 | 00:05:37,000 | 從105到108是更多 |
| 00:05:37,000 | 00:05:40,000 | 那食安科技的話8509 |
| 00:05:40,000 | 00:05:42,000 | 那食安新計畫 |
| 00:05:42,000 | 00:05:44,000 | 應該是4年的中長程計畫 |
| 00:05:44,000 | 00:05:45,000 | 是18.5 |
| 00:05:45,000 | 00:05:47,000 | 去年是編了3.2億 |
| 00:05:47,000 | 00:05:48,000 | 好然後呢 |
| 00:05:48,000 | 00:05:50,000 | 所以這一塊地方的話 |
| 00:05:50,000 | 00:05:52,000 | 我就覺得很奇怪 |
| 00:05:52,000 | 00:05:54,000 | 以我做資訊系統的角度來看 |
| 00:05:54,000 | 00:05:57,000 | 這種事情應該是20分鐘30分鐘 |
| 00:05:57,000 | 00:05:59,000 | 最慢讓你一小時 |
| 00:05:59,000 | 00:06:02,000 | 就可以做所有的數據都知道的 |
| 00:06:02,000 | 00:06:04,000 | 我為什麼敢這麼說 |
| 00:06:04,000 | 00:06:06,000 | 各位團山雲啊 |
| 00:06:06,000 | 00:06:09,000 | 在最早是我那時候 |
| 00:06:09,000 | 00:06:12,000 | 帶領團隊跟團隊一起建的 |
| 00:06:12,000 | 00:06:14,000 | 所以那個叫 |
| 00:06:14,000 | 00:06:16,000 | 校園食材登入平台的系統 |
| 00:06:16,000 | 00:06:19,000 | 主要的話他只要是食材有問題 |
| 00:06:19,000 | 00:06:21,000 | 所有的團山餐廳業者 |
| 00:06:21,000 | 00:06:23,000 | 哪些學校的用道全部都知道 |
| 00:06:23,000 | 00:06:25,000 | 所以你可以去看交易部的這個報告 |
| 00:06:25,000 | 00:06:27,000 | 他其實就很清楚 |
| 00:06:27,000 | 00:06:29,000 | 以前要追一個禮拜追不出來 |
| 00:06:29,000 | 00:06:31,000 | 追兩個禮拜追不出來 |
| 00:06:31,000 | 00:06:34,000 | 現在是20分鐘30分鐘以內就追出來 |
| 00:06:34,000 | 00:06:37,000 | 所以我覺得這一塊地方是 |
| 00:06:37,000 | 00:06:39,000 | 要去好好的檢討 |
| 00:06:39,000 | 00:06:42,000 | 然後你們會寫一堆 |
| 00:06:42,000 | 00:06:44,000 | 寫一堆非常偉大的KPI |
| 00:06:44,000 | 00:06:45,000 | 這個我就算了 |
| 00:06:45,000 | 00:06:47,000 | 因為時間的問題 |
| 00:06:47,000 | 00:06:50,000 | 所以基本上你的追溯就有問題 |
| 00:06:50,000 | 00:06:52,000 | 因為你沒有系統的幫忙 |
| 00:06:52,000 | 00:06:55,000 | 或是你系統是建在那邊當好看的 |
| 00:06:55,000 | 00:06:56,000 | 花拳繡腿 |
| 00:06:56,000 | 00:06:58,000 | 然後你再看的話就是 |
| 00:06:58,000 | 00:07:00,000 | 你們也各有寫很多 |
| 00:07:00,000 | 00:07:02,000 | 這KPI寫得很漂亮 |
| 00:07:03,000 | 00:07:07,000 | 官方宣稱建立594種風險組合模型 |
| 00:07:07,000 | 00:07:10,000 | 還跟我說有優先稽查業者名單 |
| 00:07:10,000 | 00:07:14,000 | 然後每年KPI百分之百都達標 |
| 00:07:14,000 | 00:07:17,000 | 在你們的這個KPI |
| 00:07:17,000 | 00:07:20,000 | 我也把你們的這些之前過去的這些的報告 |
| 00:07:20,000 | 00:07:22,000 | 官方就拿起來看 |
| 00:07:22,000 | 00:07:26,000 | 就讓我覺得非常的ridiculous |
| 00:07:27,000 | 00:07:30,000 | 好那為什麼這麼說呢 |
| 00:07:30,000 | 00:07:32,000 | 因為你知道嗎 |
| 00:07:32,000 | 00:07:34,000 | 我覺得這個資訊系統 |
| 00:07:34,000 | 00:07:36,000 | 我們是很早就發了錢 |
| 00:07:36,000 | 00:07:38,000 | 而且有品是我們第一個列入的 |
| 00:07:38,000 | 00:07:40,000 | 我這個要讓部長知道 |
| 00:07:40,000 | 00:07:42,000 | 有品是因為那時候最早 |
| 00:07:42,000 | 00:07:43,000 | 第一批頂新獨有 |
| 00:07:43,000 | 00:07:45,000 | 政治班還同業數的那個時候的事件 |
| 00:07:45,000 | 00:07:47,000 | 所以那時候我們在做這件事情的時候 |
| 00:07:47,000 | 00:07:49,000 | 全部都是被要求 |
| 00:07:49,000 | 00:07:53,000 | 有品直接列入第一優先 |
| 00:07:53,000 | 00:07:55,000 | 可是今天還發生這種事情 |
| 00:07:55,000 | 00:07:57,000 | 然後系統的這樣子的 |
| 00:07:57,000 | 00:07:59,000 | 我不要說事先查核 |
| 00:07:59,000 | 00:08:00,000 | 我覺得你們有時候寫的KPI |
| 00:08:00,000 | 00:08:02,000 | 是很畫虎畫瀾 |
| 00:08:03,000 | 00:08:06,000 | 就是A2怎麼去做優先風景 |
| 00:08:06,000 | 00:08:07,000 | 然後風控寫了一堆 |
| 00:08:07,000 | 00:08:08,000 | 就是為了AI去做 |
| 00:08:08,000 | 00:08:09,000 | 這我都不管 |
| 00:08:09,000 | 00:08:11,000 | 但我K的是非登 |
| 00:08:12,000 | 00:08:13,000 | 一定要登嘛 |
| 00:08:13,000 | 00:08:14,000 | 那確實 |
| 00:08:15,000 | 00:08:16,000 | 然後非追嘛 |
| 00:08:16,000 | 00:08:19,000 | 你追溯一下應該是20分鐘30分鐘 |
| 00:08:19,000 | 00:08:21,000 | 就結束了 |
| 00:08:22,000 | 00:08:23,000 | 所以那時候我們在做通訊 |
| 00:08:23,000 | 00:08:26,000 | 整個這個東西是整個這樣下來 |
| 00:08:26,000 | 00:08:28,000 | 從以前的兩三個月追不出來 |
| 00:08:28,000 | 00:08:31,000 | 兩個禮拜最後到現在是20分鐘30分鐘 |
| 00:08:31,000 | 00:08:34,000 | 那時候才有辦法再去接回溯 |
| 00:08:34,000 | 00:08:36,000 | 就是我們農業部那個國產食材的三張EQ |
| 00:08:36,000 | 00:08:39,000 | 那時候花了很多功夫打到這邊 |
| 00:08:39,000 | 00:08:40,000 | 我們那時候就想說 |
| 00:08:40,000 | 00:08:42,000 | 既然已經有這個東西了 |
| 00:08:42,000 | 00:08:44,000 | 將來它作為你的這些 |
| 00:08:44,000 | 00:08:46,000 | 不管食品銀或者什麼仿效的核心 |
| 00:08:46,000 | 00:08:48,000 | 應該是可以弄得很好 |
| 00:08:48,000 | 00:08:50,000 | 這個是我期待的 |
| 00:08:50,000 | 00:08:51,000 | 這多久了 |
| 00:08:51,000 | 00:08:54,000 | 大概是108年10幾年的時候 |
| 00:08:54,000 | 00:08:57,000 | 所以講的是我10年前 |
| 00:08:59,000 | 00:09:00,000 | 做的事情 |
| 00:09:00,000 | 00:09:01,000 | 可是今天還發生這個 |
| 00:09:01,000 | 00:09:03,000 | 以身為一個資訊系統 |
| 00:09:03,000 | 00:09:05,000 | 看你們花這麼多錢的角度來看 |
| 00:09:05,000 | 00:09:07,000 | 我是有點心痛 |
| 00:09:08,000 | 00:09:11,000 | 不然我們這件事情是可以很快就釐清的 |
| 00:09:12,000 | 00:09:13,000 | 好不好 |
| 00:09:13,000 | 00:09:14,000 | 這個是我的問題 |
| 00:09:14,000 | 00:09:15,000 | 所以我希望以後 |
| 00:09:15,000 | 00:09:17,000 | 就是像我那時候在訂 |
| 00:09:17,000 | 00:09:19,000 | 都是在訂這件事情 |
| 00:09:19,000 | 00:09:21,000 | 幾小時內掌握流向 |
| 00:09:21,000 | 00:09:23,000 | 幾小時內完成下架 |
| 00:09:23,000 | 00:09:26,000 | 你的生產頓速跟你消耗的頓速 |
| 00:09:26,000 | 00:09:28,000 | 那到底有沒有對得起來 |
| 00:09:28,000 | 00:09:31,000 | 它全部都可以集合的出來 |
| 00:09:31,000 | 00:09:33,000 | 至於說你會用AI怎麼樣去大風險 |
| 00:09:33,000 | 00:09:36,000 | 我覺得那個可能在這種事件還另當別論 |
| 00:09:36,000 | 00:09:38,000 | 那我也支持你們 |
| 00:09:38,000 | 00:09:40,000 | 未來第三方或是自己的檢測 |
| 00:09:40,000 | 00:09:41,000 | 它所有都要上網 |
| 00:09:41,000 | 00:09:43,000 | 而且你要要求他們 |
| 00:09:43,000 | 00:09:46,000 | 不要每個這些廠商都是用這個什麼 |
| 00:09:46,000 | 00:09:48,000 | 都是用人工這樣把你登錄上海 |
| 00:09:48,000 | 00:09:50,000 | 它是直接透過它的檢驗系統 |
| 00:09:50,000 | 00:09:52,000 | 系統對系統對接 |
| 00:09:52,000 | 00:09:55,000 | 它API開放給你code就上來了 |
| 00:09:55,000 | 00:09:57,000 | 甚至它的ERP、MRP的資料 |
| 00:09:57,000 | 00:09:59,000 | 這些直接上來也行 |
| 00:09:59,000 | 00:10:01,000 | 那要確實執行力 |
| 00:10:01,000 | 00:10:04,000 | 不然我就會覺得你會變成這個樣子 |
| 00:10:04,000 | 00:10:07,000 | 最後啦這個是我語重心長寫的 |
| 00:10:08,000 | 00:10:10,000 | 就你的食安飲是變事後飲 |
| 00:10:10,000 | 00:10:13,000 | 我們的人工智慧是變工人智慧 |
| 00:10:14,000 | 00:10:16,000 | 人家是化腐朽為神奇 |
| 00:10:16,000 | 00:10:18,000 | 你是化神奇為腐朽 |
| 00:10:19,000 | 00:10:21,000 | 然後最後我們就會請食難安 |
| 00:10:22,000 | 00:10:24,000 | 當然我會把那個食換成你的性 |
| 00:10:24,000 | 00:10:26,000 | 就是說給你一個建議 |
| 00:10:26,000 | 00:10:29,000 | 我們就會好好去把系統做改善好不好 |
| 00:10:29,000 | 00:10:31,000 | 如果有什麼可以幫忙的就跟我們說 |
| 00:10:31,000 | 00:10:34,000 | 我們科技界都非常願意幫忙這件事情 |
| 00:10:34,000 | 00:10:37,000 | 謝謝當然我們未來這個剛剛跟委員報告 |
| 00:10:37,000 | 00:10:41,000 | 這幾年的食安飲它在擴大它的品項 |
| 00:10:41,000 | 00:10:45,000 | 但是呢還是停留在製造業 |
| 00:10:45,000 | 00:10:46,000 | 沒有再往下 |
| 00:10:46,000 | 00:10:50,000 | 它是從原料源頭入關 |
| 00:10:50,000 | 00:10:53,000 | 那麼原料的提供一直到製造業 |
| 00:10:53,000 | 00:10:55,000 | 還沒有再往下的販售業 |
| 00:10:55,000 | 00:10:58,000 | 所以我們第一刻能夠掌握的量 |
| 00:10:58,000 | 00:11:00,000 | 到製造業都沒有問題 |
| 00:11:00,000 | 00:11:03,000 | 我覺得還不是到販售都沒有問題 |
| 00:11:03,000 | 00:11:04,000 | 因為我是覺得說 |
| 00:11:04,000 | 00:11:06,000 | 如果你是有像這個4月4號品 |
| 00:11:06,000 | 00:11:08,000 | 是到你真的發生的時候 |
| 00:11:08,000 | 00:11:11,000 | 其實它不是要用天算的 |
| 00:11:11,000 | 00:11:13,000 | 它應該是幾小時就弄完了 |
| 00:11:13,000 | 00:11:15,000 | 我們假設先不管製造 |
| 00:11:15,000 | 00:11:17,000 | 就是從你的上游到下游 |
| 00:11:17,000 | 00:11:18,000 | 多少批次多少量 |
| 00:11:18,000 | 00:11:20,000 | 往哪邊出去的話 |
| 00:11:20,000 | 00:11:22,000 | 你應該是幾小時就做完 |
| 00:11:22,000 | 00:11:24,000 | 這個是我concent的 |
| 00:11:24,000 | 00:11:26,000 | 這樣可以吧 |
| 00:11:26,000 | 00:11:28,000 | 我們以這個為目標 |
| 00:11:28,000 | 00:11:30,000 | 雖然你們號稱都做很多 |
| 00:11:30,000 | 00:11:33,000 | 但我覺得就執行力的問題 |
| 00:11:33,000 | 00:11:34,000 | 確實好不好 |
| 00:11:34,000 | 00:11:36,000 | 接下來就是那個檢驗系統 |
| 00:11:36,000 | 00:11:38,000 | 如果直接借接上來 |
| 00:11:38,000 | 00:11:42,000 | 這樣會更確實不是要才不會作假 |
| 00:11:42,000 | 00:11:44,000 | 這個才能夠更即時 |
| 00:11:44,000 | 00:11:46,000 | 這個我們會往這個方向 |
| 00:11:46,000 | 00:11:47,000 | 就是你寫的都很好 |
| 00:11:47,000 | 00:11:49,000 | 就是非登不可非追不可 |
| 00:11:49,000 | 00:11:51,000 | 我都覺得很好 |
| 00:11:51,000 | 00:11:53,000 | 但是就是有沒有登 |
| 00:11:53,000 | 00:11:56,000 | 你沒有登就不會追得到 |
| 00:11:56,000 | 00:11:58,000 | 你的回溯勾機 |
| 00:11:58,000 | 00:12:00,000 | 這些才有辦法出來 |
| 00:12:00,000 | 00:12:01,000 | 好不好 |
| 00:12:01,000 | 00:12:02,000 | 這是語重心長 |
| 00:12:02,000 | 00:12:04,000 | 我們科技界都願意幫忙 |
| 00:12:04,000 | 00:12:05,000 | OK 謝謝 |
| 00:12:05,000 | 00:12:06,000 | 謝謝委員 |
| 00:12:06,000 | 00:12:08,000 | 謝謝孔育祥回的諮詢 |