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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:15,000 | 謝謝主席 楊潔玲發言 邀請部長 |
| 00:00:15,000 | 00:00:16,000 | 請石崇良部長 |
| 00:00:16,000 | 00:00:26,000 | 部長 我想我們先來討論那個新冠疫情的議題 |
| 00:00:26,000 | 00:00:28,000 | 在討論油的之前 |
| 00:00:28,000 | 00:00:36,000 | 因為疾管署說上週門診急診就診的人次是4766人次 |
| 00:00:36,000 | 00:00:41,000 | 那比較前一週我們上升了將近快要七成 |
| 00:00:41,000 | 00:00:43,000 | 66.5 |
| 00:00:43,000 | 00:00:47,000 | 那也就是說連續六週都一直在上升 |
| 00:00:47,000 | 00:00:53,000 | 那也推估說8月中左右 8月中8月下旬是會一個高峰 |
| 00:00:53,000 | 00:01:00,000 | 那這時候可能單週就診的人數恐怕會上五萬人 |
| 00:01:00,000 | 00:01:06,000 | 那上週也有5例因為這個死亡病例 |
| 00:01:06,000 | 00:01:11,000 | 所以請教部長 在針對於新冠升溫的醫療整備 |
| 00:01:11,000 | 00:01:15,000 | 包括整個醫療機構的快篩藥品 |
| 00:01:15,000 | 00:01:18,000 | 還有通路家用的快篩 |
| 00:01:19,000 | 00:01:22,000 | 這個曝霍抗病毒的藥品儲備 |
| 00:01:22,000 | 00:01:27,000 | 以及各醫療院所醫療量能的調整 |
| 00:01:27,000 | 00:01:29,000 | 你是不是全面在啟動 |
| 00:01:29,000 | 00:01:33,000 | 跟委員說明我們現在的疫苗都還有 |
| 00:01:33,000 | 00:01:35,000 | 所以這個機會要呼籲國人 |
| 00:01:35,000 | 00:01:42,000 | 特別是有慢性病的高齡的趕快接種這個COVID的疫苗 |
| 00:01:42,000 | 00:01:43,000 | 疫苗我們都還充足 |
| 00:01:43,000 | 00:01:44,000 | 這是另外疫苗的議題 |
| 00:01:44,000 | 00:01:45,000 | 請做個分析的請問 |
| 00:01:45,000 | 00:01:48,000 | 另外在這個看病毒的 |
| 00:01:48,000 | 00:01:51,000 | 我們每個禮拜都有在記者會跟大家報告 |
| 00:01:51,000 | 00:01:55,000 | 抗病毒的藥物也都充足的 |
| 00:01:55,000 | 00:01:57,000 | 這個抗病毒藥都充足 |
| 00:01:57,000 | 00:02:01,000 | 所以現在就是還是預防剩餘治療 |
| 00:02:01,000 | 00:02:03,000 | 能夠打疫苗的趕快打 |
| 00:02:03,000 | 00:02:05,000 | 但是我要告訴你的是說 |
| 00:02:05,000 | 00:02:11,000 | 我們重度級的這個急救責任的醫院 |
| 00:02:11,000 | 00:02:13,000 | 他們的急診及死訊息 |
| 00:02:13,000 | 00:02:15,000 | 我認為這個非常重要 |
| 00:02:15,000 | 00:02:18,000 | 在系統上讓大家去了解非常重要 |
| 00:02:18,000 | 00:02:20,000 | 因為部分的醫院 |
| 00:02:20,000 | 00:02:22,000 | 他在急診住院 |
| 00:02:22,000 | 00:02:23,000 | 推床 |
| 00:02:23,000 | 00:02:24,000 | IQ |
| 00:02:24,000 | 00:02:26,000 | 加護部門的這個部分 |
| 00:02:26,000 | 00:02:29,000 | 以及他的帶路人數 |
| 00:02:29,000 | 00:02:31,000 | 已經出現了這個壓力 |
| 00:02:31,000 | 00:02:34,000 | 甚至在昨天有12家的醫院 |
| 00:02:34,000 | 00:02:36,000 | 他已經向你們的系統通報 |
| 00:02:36,000 | 00:02:38,000 | 我都已經滿床了 |
| 00:02:38,000 | 00:02:41,000 | 而且急診等待住院的人次 |
| 00:02:41,000 | 00:02:43,000 | 將近1300人 |
| 00:02:43,000 | 00:02:44,000 | 1293 |
| 00:02:44,000 | 00:02:48,000 | 照你們的系統數字是這麼樣的說明 |
| 00:02:48,000 | 00:02:51,000 | 所以我們要怎麼樣有效的 |
| 00:02:51,000 | 00:02:54,000 | 在這個透過篩檢 |
| 00:02:54,000 | 00:02:56,000 | 將確診的 |
| 00:02:56,000 | 00:03:01,000 | 他能夠攔截在清階段的這個時間 |
| 00:03:01,000 | 00:03:04,000 | 也就是早篩早治 |
| 00:03:04,000 | 00:03:07,000 | 才不會避免重疾的這個醫院 |
| 00:03:07,000 | 00:03:09,000 | 這個醫院的他的急診 |
| 00:03:09,000 | 00:03:11,000 | 又是這個急壓了 |
| 00:03:11,000 | 00:03:13,000 | 所以我還是要提醒 |
| 00:03:13,000 | 00:03:15,000 | 這個部分必須 |
| 00:03:15,000 | 00:03:17,000 | 既然我們已經定出了8月 |
| 00:03:17,000 | 00:03:19,000 | 下個月中或者是底 |
| 00:03:19,000 | 00:03:21,000 | 我們看到這個數字 |
| 00:03:21,000 | 00:03:23,000 | 5萬人 |
| 00:03:23,000 | 00:03:24,000 | 這個救診人數 |
| 00:03:24,000 | 00:03:25,000 | 他這個一定會擠爆了 |
| 00:03:25,000 | 00:03:28,000 | 所以務必一定要全面啟動 |
| 00:03:28,000 | 00:03:30,000 | 去做好準備 |
| 00:03:30,000 | 00:03:31,000 | 是不是 |
| 00:03:31,000 | 00:03:32,000 | 謝謝委員提醒 |
| 00:03:32,000 | 00:03:33,000 | 確實這個 |
| 00:03:33,000 | 00:03:34,000 | 因為這個抗病毒的 |
| 00:03:34,000 | 00:03:36,000 | 要在早期投藥 |
| 00:03:36,000 | 00:03:37,000 | 效果才會好 |
| 00:03:37,000 | 00:03:40,000 | 所以這個就是希望這個比較高風險的 |
| 00:03:40,000 | 00:03:42,000 | 剛剛提到的有慢性病的 |
| 00:03:42,000 | 00:03:44,000 | 年紀大的 |
| 00:03:44,000 | 00:03:46,000 | 那麼有症狀趕快就醫 |
| 00:03:46,000 | 00:03:47,000 | 然後有篩檢 |
| 00:03:47,000 | 00:03:48,000 | 我們也有快篩 |
| 00:03:48,000 | 00:03:49,000 | 你在醫療體系裡 |
| 00:03:49,000 | 00:03:51,000 | 你可以快篩快吃 |
| 00:03:51,000 | 00:03:53,000 | 然後就可以給抗病毒的藥 |
| 00:03:53,000 | 00:03:56,000 | 就可以降低重症的病患 |
| 00:03:56,000 | 00:03:59,000 | 所以要全面的去啟動防毒起來 |
| 00:03:59,000 | 00:04:00,000 | 謝謝 |
| 00:04:00,000 | 00:04:02,000 | 接下來我們來討論以後的問題 |
| 00:04:02,000 | 00:04:04,000 | 從4月份開始 |
| 00:04:04,000 | 00:04:06,000 | 一直到所謂的6月30 |
| 00:04:06,000 | 00:04:08,000 | 一直到7月1號開始 |
| 00:04:08,000 | 00:04:10,000 | 一直到現在 |
| 00:04:10,000 | 00:04:15,000 | 到底人民吃下了多少的油 |
| 00:04:15,000 | 00:04:16,000 | 是毒的 |
| 00:04:16,000 | 00:04:19,000 | 到現在政府說不清楚 |
| 00:04:19,000 | 00:04:20,000 | 說不清楚 |
| 00:04:20,000 | 00:04:22,000 | 有告訴我們預防性下降 |
| 00:04:22,000 | 00:04:23,000 | 預防性下降 |
| 00:04:23,000 | 00:04:26,000 | 就是成爐學校的部分 |
| 00:04:26,000 | 00:04:30,000 | 從500多手800多手到1300多手 |
| 00:04:30,000 | 00:04:33,000 | 也就是說我預防性下降 |
| 00:04:33,000 | 00:04:35,000 | 就如此告訴我們 |
| 00:04:35,000 | 00:04:37,000 | 但是民眾要知道的是什麼 |
| 00:04:37,000 | 00:04:41,000 | 我到底吃下的油有沒有毒 |
| 00:04:41,000 | 00:04:43,000 | 政府可不可以告訴我這個 |
| 00:04:43,000 | 00:04:45,000 | 好 跟委員說明 |
| 00:04:45,000 | 00:04:49,000 | 我們都有發布這個相關的油品的品項 |
| 00:04:49,000 | 00:04:51,000 | 它的產品的品項 |
| 00:04:51,000 | 00:04:54,000 | 我們都在我們網路上有公告 |
| 00:04:54,000 | 00:04:56,000 | 那目前就是那7批 |
| 00:04:56,000 | 00:04:58,000 | 所以7批我們都詳細的 |
| 00:04:58,000 | 00:05:00,000 | 把它所有的製造的日期 |
| 00:05:00,000 | 00:05:02,000 | 跟它的品項的名稱 |
| 00:05:02,000 | 00:05:04,000 | 都在食藥署的網頁 |
| 00:05:04,000 | 00:05:05,000 | 大家可以查詢 |
| 00:05:05,000 | 00:05:08,000 | 部長 我們討論過無數次 |
| 00:05:08,000 | 00:05:11,000 | 但是為什麼到現在民眾不清楚 |
| 00:05:11,000 | 00:05:13,000 | 所以我們繼續來討論 |
| 00:05:13,000 | 00:05:14,000 | 發生的事情 |
| 00:05:14,000 | 00:05:16,000 | 我們要知道它的原因在哪裡 |
| 00:05:16,000 | 00:05:18,000 | 我們要怎麼樣去解決之 |
| 00:05:18,000 | 00:05:20,000 | 所以現在我們要修法 |
| 00:05:20,000 | 00:05:23,000 | 我們就針對修法來說 |
| 00:05:23,000 | 00:05:27,000 | 那麼你修法不能只有做半套 |
| 00:05:27,000 | 00:05:29,000 | 因為我們看到了 |
| 00:05:29,000 | 00:05:31,000 | 三把裡頭蓄意隱匿 |
| 00:05:31,000 | 00:05:33,000 | 危害風險的企業 |
| 00:05:33,000 | 00:05:34,000 | 到目前為止 |
| 00:05:34,000 | 00:05:35,000 | 裁罰上限 |
| 00:05:35,000 | 00:05:38,000 | 這個蓄意的只有300萬 |
| 00:05:38,000 | 00:05:43,000 | 那像這樣子的壟斷性的代工大廠 |
| 00:05:43,000 | 00:05:45,000 | 這300萬對他們來講 |
| 00:05:45,000 | 00:05:47,000 | 根本是獲利成本 |
| 00:05:47,000 | 00:05:50,000 | 簡直是罰不怕嘛 |
| 00:05:50,000 | 00:05:52,000 | 所以在這樣的情況之下 |
| 00:05:52,000 | 00:05:55,000 | 你看 你說5批有問題 |
| 00:05:55,000 | 00:05:58,000 | 對6批還是有問題 |
| 00:05:58,000 | 00:06:00,000 | 你們出來才願意 |
| 00:06:00,000 | 00:06:03,000 | 針對第6批來道歉 |
| 00:06:03,000 | 00:06:05,000 | 所以就是陳如剛剛所說的 |
| 00:06:05,000 | 00:06:06,000 | 這個樣態 |
| 00:06:06,000 | 00:06:09,000 | 目前的法是沒有辦法去應對 |
| 00:06:09,000 | 00:06:12,000 | 所產生的困難跟情境 |
| 00:06:12,000 | 00:06:13,000 | 是不是 |
| 00:06:13,000 | 00:06:16,000 | 好 這一個對 所以我要請教 |
| 00:06:16,000 | 00:06:17,000 | 明知道有毒 |
| 00:06:17,000 | 00:06:19,000 | 但是選擇隱匿的行為 |
| 00:06:19,000 | 00:06:20,000 | 你這一次的修法 |
| 00:06:20,000 | 00:06:23,000 | 是不是應該要加重法冊 |
| 00:06:23,000 | 00:06:24,000 | 除此之外 |
| 00:06:24,000 | 00:06:26,000 | 你應該要將納入 |
| 00:06:26,000 | 00:06:28,000 | 利得莫入 |
| 00:06:28,000 | 00:06:29,000 | 有沒有包括這一點 |
| 00:06:29,000 | 00:06:31,000 | 跟委員說明 |
| 00:06:31,000 | 00:06:34,000 | 這個非常樂意跟委員來討論 |
| 00:06:34,000 | 00:06:35,000 | 這一次的修法 |
| 00:06:35,000 | 00:06:38,000 | 那麼在這一次的事件裡面 |
| 00:06:38,000 | 00:06:40,000 | 因為隱匿延遲通報 |
| 00:06:40,000 | 00:06:42,000 | 才讓我們沒有辦法及時 |
| 00:06:42,000 | 00:06:44,000 | 把這些油回收 |
| 00:06:44,000 | 00:06:46,000 | 所以這個是最大二級 |
| 00:06:46,000 | 00:06:47,000 | 就是這一次最重要的 |
| 00:06:47,000 | 00:06:50,000 | 所以我們剛剛您這邊提到的 |
| 00:06:50,000 | 00:06:51,000 | 只有300萬太低 |
| 00:06:51,000 | 00:06:52,000 | 所以我們現在的草案 |
| 00:06:52,000 | 00:06:54,000 | 把它提到3000萬 |
| 00:06:54,000 | 00:06:57,000 | 這個是隱匿延遲通報的部分 |
| 00:06:57,000 | 00:06:58,000 | 由300萬 |
| 00:06:58,000 | 00:07:01,000 | 有法來成為3000萬 |
| 00:07:01,000 | 00:07:02,000 | 我們把它提高 |
| 00:07:02,000 | 00:07:03,000 | 接下來呢 |
| 00:07:03,000 | 00:07:07,000 | 那麼當然強化他的通報義務 |
| 00:07:07,000 | 00:07:08,000 | 也是有的 |
| 00:07:08,000 | 00:07:09,000 | 因為這一次的檢驗 |
| 00:07:09,000 | 00:07:10,000 | 有的是 |
| 00:07:10,000 | 00:07:11,000 | 只會利得莫入的這一塊 |
| 00:07:11,000 | 00:07:13,000 | 利得莫入現在已經有 |
| 00:07:13,000 | 00:07:16,000 | 有 現在因為他有刑事罪 |
| 00:07:16,000 | 00:07:18,000 | 他這個還有刑事罪的 |
| 00:07:18,000 | 00:07:19,000 | 他就會有利得莫入 |
| 00:07:19,000 | 00:07:21,000 | 這個已經有設計 |
| 00:07:21,000 | 00:07:23,000 | 利得莫入一定要納入 |
| 00:07:23,000 | 00:07:25,000 | 而且一定要執行之 |
| 00:07:25,000 | 00:07:28,000 | 有 目前就是有刑事責任的 |
| 00:07:28,000 | 00:07:30,000 | 那當然還有的就是 |
| 00:07:30,000 | 00:07:32,000 | 要避免他拖產 |
| 00:07:32,000 | 00:07:34,000 | 你罰了之後呢 |
| 00:07:34,000 | 00:07:35,000 | 他拖產之後呢 |
| 00:07:35,000 | 00:07:36,000 | 那財產沒有給他 |
| 00:07:36,000 | 00:07:38,000 | 先保全下來的話 |
| 00:07:38,000 | 00:07:39,000 | 那這個也沒有用 |
| 00:07:39,000 | 00:07:40,000 | 這個是法律部分啦 |
| 00:07:40,000 | 00:07:42,000 | 法律部分可以先去 |
| 00:07:42,000 | 00:07:44,000 | 先去假扣押起來 |
| 00:07:44,000 | 00:07:46,000 | 對 我們會有假扣押 |
| 00:07:46,000 | 00:07:47,000 | 所以這個我們會 |
| 00:07:47,000 | 00:07:48,000 | 在這次修法裡面 |
| 00:07:48,000 | 00:07:50,000 | 也把它明確入法 |
| 00:07:50,000 | 00:07:52,000 | 讓我們行政法的部分 |
| 00:07:52,000 | 00:07:54,000 | 也搭配假扣押 |
| 00:07:54,000 | 00:07:57,000 | 所謂的修法不能只做半套 |
| 00:07:57,000 | 00:07:58,000 | 也就是我們針對 |
| 00:07:58,000 | 00:08:02,000 | 吹哨者的保護法的制度化 |
| 00:08:02,000 | 00:08:04,000 | 您的看法呢 |
| 00:08:04,000 | 00:08:07,000 | 吹哨者在我們目前的制度裡面 |
| 00:08:07,000 | 00:08:08,000 | 是有的 |
| 00:08:08,000 | 00:08:11,000 | 但是如果你是應該就要通報 |
| 00:08:11,000 | 00:08:12,000 | 像這一次南僑 |
| 00:08:12,000 | 00:08:14,000 | 依法你就是要通報 |
| 00:08:14,000 | 00:08:16,000 | 那你已經都延遲通報了 |
| 00:08:16,000 | 00:08:18,000 | 也沒有什麼叫做保護吹哨者 |
| 00:08:18,000 | 00:08:19,000 | 吹哨者是要 |
| 00:08:19,000 | 00:08:22,000 | 不是義務通報人 |
| 00:08:22,000 | 00:08:25,000 | 但是他願意通報給主管機關 |
| 00:08:25,000 | 00:08:28,000 | 那麼這個就是符合吹哨者的保護 |
| 00:08:28,000 | 00:08:30,000 | 在目前的食安法裡面有 |
| 00:08:30,000 | 00:08:33,000 | 因為我們有要求24小時 |
| 00:08:33,000 | 00:08:35,000 | 如果他的員工他去舉報 |
| 00:08:35,000 | 00:08:37,000 | 那他還要被放掉 |
| 00:08:37,000 | 00:08:39,000 | 那是不公平的啊 |
| 00:08:39,000 | 00:08:41,000 | 所以這一定要保護吹哨法 |
| 00:08:41,000 | 00:08:42,000 | 讓它法制化 |
| 00:08:42,000 | 00:08:43,000 | 這一定要納入 |
| 00:08:43,000 | 00:08:44,000 | 有 |
| 00:08:44,000 | 00:08:45,000 | 你才可以 |
| 00:08:45,000 | 00:08:47,000 | 每一個管道都會暢通 |
| 00:08:47,000 | 00:08:49,000 | 就是排除義務通報人 |
| 00:08:49,000 | 00:08:51,000 | 義務通報人是沒有所謂的 |
| 00:08:51,000 | 00:08:52,000 | 吹哨者保護的 |
| 00:08:52,000 | 00:08:54,000 | 所以接下來本來要跟你討論 |
| 00:08:54,000 | 00:08:56,000 | 那發生的這個事情 |
| 00:08:56,000 | 00:08:58,000 | 下游的廠商 |
| 00:08:58,000 | 00:09:01,000 | 幾乎1300家以上 |
| 00:09:01,000 | 00:09:03,000 | 就像每一個地方 |
| 00:09:03,000 | 00:09:05,000 | 包括我個人的選區 |
| 00:09:05,000 | 00:09:06,000 | 我們有烘焙房 |
| 00:09:06,000 | 00:09:07,000 | 我們有小磁碳 |
| 00:09:07,000 | 00:09:09,000 | 那因為這樣子 |
| 00:09:09,000 | 00:09:11,000 | 而導致他的庫存 |
| 00:09:11,000 | 00:09:13,000 | 通通必須要預防性的下降 |
| 00:09:13,000 | 00:09:15,000 | 他的庫存也要被銷毀 |
| 00:09:15,000 | 00:09:18,000 | 他的營收當然直接的就斷頭 |
| 00:09:18,000 | 00:09:21,000 | 這一些的損失 |
| 00:09:21,000 | 00:09:23,000 | 中小企業的損失 |
| 00:09:23,000 | 00:09:26,000 | 他不能是成為 |
| 00:09:26,000 | 00:09:28,000 | 他已經成為被動的受害者 |
| 00:09:28,000 | 00:09:31,000 | 那這些被動的受害者要怎麼辦 |
| 00:09:31,000 | 00:09:32,000 | 要怎麼辦 |
| 00:09:32,000 | 00:09:33,000 | 你們怎麼處理 |
| 00:09:33,000 | 00:09:36,000 | 就像本席上次跟你討論的 |
| 00:09:36,000 | 00:09:37,000 | 我這個有 |
| 00:09:37,000 | 00:09:39,000 | 我有發票你說可以 |
| 00:09:39,000 | 00:09:40,000 | 可以這個退 |
| 00:09:40,000 | 00:09:41,000 | 沒有發票怎麼辦 |
| 00:09:41,000 | 00:09:43,000 | 到現在你們還沒有研究出來 |
| 00:09:43,000 | 00:09:44,000 | 你們還沒有研究出來 |
| 00:09:44,000 | 00:09:47,000 | 跟現在本席第二個議題 |
| 00:09:47,000 | 00:09:50,000 | 這些下游的被動式的受害者 |
| 00:09:50,000 | 00:09:51,000 | 他要怎麼辦 |
| 00:09:51,000 | 00:09:54,000 | 而且他幾乎都是在最底層的 |
| 00:09:54,000 | 00:09:56,000 | 最辛苦的這些人怎麼辦 |
| 00:09:56,000 | 00:09:58,000 | 好我想這個分三段 |
| 00:09:58,000 | 00:09:59,000 | 跟委員說明 |
| 00:09:59,000 | 00:10:00,000 | 第一個呢 |
| 00:10:00,000 | 00:10:02,000 | 如果是民眾的部分 |
| 00:10:02,000 | 00:10:04,000 | 那麼在我們現在有啟動 |
| 00:10:04,000 | 00:10:07,000 | 對於這個退費退貨的協助 |
| 00:10:07,000 | 00:10:10,000 | 那麼在我們的食安基金裡面 |
| 00:10:10,000 | 00:10:12,000 | 也能夠協助這個團體 |
| 00:10:12,000 | 00:10:14,000 | 團體訴訟的一些費用 |
| 00:10:14,000 | 00:10:17,000 | 所以這個是對這個消費者的部分 |
| 00:10:17,000 | 00:10:18,000 | 那第二個呢 |
| 00:10:18,000 | 00:10:20,000 | 是如果你是直接 |
| 00:10:20,000 | 00:10:22,000 | 那麼對應這個 |
| 00:10:22,000 | 00:10:24,000 | 有問題的產品的 |
| 00:10:24,000 | 00:10:26,000 | 那球場賠償的部分 |
| 00:10:26,000 | 00:10:29,000 | 當然是應該由加害者來賠償 |
| 00:10:29,000 | 00:10:31,000 | 也不應該由政府來賠 |
| 00:10:31,000 | 00:10:32,000 | 那麼另外有一套 |
| 00:10:32,000 | 00:10:34,000 | 是我們現在在食安法裡面 |
| 00:10:34,000 | 00:10:35,000 | 現在在討論的 |
| 00:10:35,000 | 00:10:37,000 | 就是配合政府的政策 |
| 00:10:37,000 | 00:10:39,000 | 預防性下架 |
| 00:10:39,000 | 00:10:42,000 | 但是它基本上是合格的產品 |
| 00:10:42,000 | 00:10:43,000 | 像這一次我們是 |
| 00:10:43,000 | 00:10:46,000 | 為了要保護這個所有的食安 |
| 00:10:46,000 | 00:10:48,000 | 所以我們擴大預防性下架 |
| 00:10:48,000 | 00:10:49,000 | 讓4到6月 |
| 00:10:49,000 | 00:10:51,000 | 後來檢驗完之後 |
| 00:10:51,000 | 00:10:52,000 | 那麼再重新上架 |
| 00:10:52,000 | 00:10:54,000 | 如果因為是配合政府的 |
| 00:10:54,000 | 00:10:56,000 | 預防性的下架 |
| 00:10:56,000 | 00:10:57,000 | 而有的損失 |
| 00:10:57,000 | 00:10:59,000 | 我們可以用食安基金來研議 |
| 00:10:59,000 | 00:11:00,000 | 來給他補助 |
| 00:11:00,000 | 00:11:01,000 | 這個務必要做 |
| 00:11:01,000 | 00:11:02,000 | 這個現在 |
| 00:11:02,000 | 00:11:03,000 | 因為針對這些 |
| 00:11:03,000 | 00:11:05,000 | 因為供應鏈斷電 |
| 00:11:05,000 | 00:11:07,000 | 而遭受到他的產業 |
| 00:11:07,000 | 00:11:09,000 | 他的經濟損害的業者 |
| 00:11:09,000 | 00:11:13,000 | 你應該要提出具體的緊急補償 |
| 00:11:13,000 | 00:11:15,000 | 以及紓困的支持方案 |
| 00:11:15,000 | 00:11:17,000 | 協助他們度過這個難關 |
| 00:11:17,000 | 00:11:19,000 | 他是被動的受害 |
| 00:11:19,000 | 00:11:21,000 | 在這段期間我們都有協調 |
| 00:11:21,000 | 00:11:25,000 | 經濟部有協助去協調這個增加供應 |
| 00:11:25,000 | 00:11:29,000 | 所以這個沙拉油的供應 |
| 00:11:29,000 | 00:11:31,000 | 是沒有問題 |
| 00:11:31,000 | 00:11:32,000 | 不是增加供應的問題 |
| 00:11:32,000 | 00:11:34,000 | 而是我已經因為 |
| 00:11:34,000 | 00:11:37,000 | 這一個供應鏈的壟斷 |
| 00:11:37,000 | 00:11:41,000 | 而遭受到經濟損失的這些業者 |
| 00:11:41,000 | 00:11:45,000 | 那你們應該要提出協助的方案出來 |
| 00:11:45,000 | 00:11:47,000 | 你務必一定要去做 |
| 00:11:47,000 | 00:11:49,000 | 接下來本期要跟你討論的 |
| 00:11:49,000 | 00:11:50,000 | 也就是說 |
| 00:11:50,000 | 00:11:53,000 | 你這個三級品管的部分 |
| 00:11:53,000 | 00:11:57,000 | 我要具體來建議 |
| 00:11:57,000 | 00:12:00,000 | 不要讓三級毒品的一個品管 |
| 00:12:00,000 | 00:12:02,000 | 你只是淪為口號 |
| 00:12:02,000 | 00:12:05,000 | 因為我們要等你這個 |
| 00:12:05,000 | 00:12:08,000 | 政府在以色列方面 |
| 00:12:08,000 | 00:12:09,000 | 跟擠牙膏一樣 |
| 00:12:09,000 | 00:12:11,000 | 這些不行 那一些不行 |
| 00:12:11,000 | 00:12:13,000 | 讓民眾看了密密麻麻 |
| 00:12:13,000 | 00:12:16,000 | 那應該你是要有數位系統 |
| 00:12:16,000 | 00:12:20,000 | 跟這個關鍵節點的一個監管 |
| 00:12:20,000 | 00:12:22,000 | 你要真正的上線 |
| 00:12:22,000 | 00:12:24,000 | 讓民眾很清楚的可以知道 |
| 00:12:24,000 | 00:12:26,000 | 到底現在是怎麼一回事 |
| 00:12:26,000 | 00:12:27,000 | 我要買什麼 |
| 00:12:27,000 | 00:12:29,000 | 我吃下的也沒問題 |
| 00:12:29,000 | 00:12:30,000 | 你的看法 |
| 00:12:30,000 | 00:12:31,000 | 跟委員說明 |
| 00:12:31,000 | 00:12:32,000 | 其實會看到密密麻麻 |
| 00:12:32,000 | 00:12:34,000 | 就是因為我們之前 |
| 00:12:34,000 | 00:12:36,000 | 這個食品雲可以把製造端 |
| 00:12:36,000 | 00:12:37,000 | 馬上抓到 |
| 00:12:37,000 | 00:12:39,000 | 所以他一開始才有這麼多的產品 |
| 00:12:39,000 | 00:12:41,000 | 看起來密密麻麻 |
| 00:12:41,000 | 00:12:43,000 | 這個也是過去建構起來的 |
| 00:12:43,000 | 00:12:45,000 | 系統的功能 |
| 00:12:45,000 | 00:12:47,000 | 那只是要擴大 |
| 00:12:47,000 | 00:12:49,000 | 現在要擴大到販售業 |
| 00:12:49,000 | 00:12:51,000 | 我們之前是著重在製造業 |
| 00:12:51,000 | 00:12:54,000 | 那麼接下來可能販售業也要納進來 |
| 00:12:54,000 | 00:12:56,000 | 所以這個是未來我們 |
| 00:12:56,000 | 00:12:58,000 | 跟委員的想法是一致的 |
| 00:12:58,000 | 00:13:00,000 | 市長你要立即啟動啊 |
| 00:13:00,000 | 00:13:02,000 | 數位系統你要立即啟動啊 |
| 00:13:02,000 | 00:13:04,000 | 還不是未來啊 |
| 00:13:04,000 | 00:13:06,000 | 現在就要趕快去做啦 |
| 00:13:06,000 | 00:13:08,000 | 因為這個廠商更多了 |
| 00:13:08,000 | 00:13:10,000 | 數位系統的一個啟動 |
| 00:13:10,000 | 00:13:11,000 | 是非常的重要 |
| 00:13:11,000 | 00:13:13,000 | 因為關鍵節點的監督 |
| 00:13:13,000 | 00:13:15,000 | 我們也會跟這個財政部大家來討論 |
| 00:13:15,000 | 00:13:17,000 | 透過電子發票的方式來做 |
| 00:13:17,000 | 00:13:19,000 | 因為這個業者更多啦 |
| 00:13:19,000 | 00:13:22,000 | 不是現在這個幾萬家而已 |
| 00:13:22,000 | 00:13:24,000 | 所以 部長 |
| 00:13:24,000 | 00:13:26,000 | 數位數位源 |
| 00:13:26,000 | 00:13:28,000 | 數位數位源非常非常的重要 |
| 00:13:28,000 | 00:13:29,000 | 對 |
| 00:13:29,000 | 00:13:30,000 | 因為民眾看到的 |
| 00:13:30,000 | 00:13:31,000 | 就跟我們所說的 |
| 00:13:31,000 | 00:13:33,000 | 以色列裡頭的清單 |
| 00:13:33,000 | 00:13:35,000 | 那現在你也同意本期的看法 |
| 00:13:35,000 | 00:13:38,000 | 我們要怎麼樣再結盟業者等 |
| 00:13:38,000 | 00:13:40,000 | 怎麼樣去精進這個數位化 |
| 00:13:40,000 | 00:13:42,000 | 我們一定要建立一個數位化 |
| 00:13:42,000 | 00:13:44,000 | 即使可查詢的 |
| 00:13:44,000 | 00:13:47,000 | 食安預警之循環 |
| 00:13:47,000 | 00:13:48,000 | 這個很重要 |
| 00:13:48,000 | 00:13:49,000 | 可不可以做得到 |
| 00:13:49,000 | 00:13:51,000 | 我們非常這個 |
| 00:13:51,000 | 00:13:53,000 | 贊同委員的這個看法 |
| 00:13:53,000 | 00:13:54,000 | 也是我們現在努力的方向 |
| 00:13:54,000 | 00:13:56,000 | 所以也請委員支持我們的預算 |
| 00:13:56,000 | 00:13:57,000 | 讓這個 |
| 00:13:57,000 | 00:13:58,000 | 你趕快做 |
| 00:13:58,000 | 00:13:59,000 | 你現在發生問題了 |
| 00:13:59,000 | 00:14:00,000 | 你還要未來 |
| 00:14:00,000 | 00:14:01,000 | 你要立即啟動 |
| 00:14:01,000 | 00:14:02,000 | 去做整合 |
| 00:14:02,000 | 00:14:05,000 | 所以我們也需要有預算來支持這個 |
| 00:14:05,000 | 00:14:07,000 | 第二個 吹哨者保護法 |
| 00:14:07,000 | 00:14:08,000 | 剛剛本席所說的 |
| 00:14:08,000 | 00:14:09,000 | 要提到 |
| 00:14:09,000 | 00:14:12,000 | 你們也一定要納入在保護這些人 |
| 00:14:12,000 | 00:14:13,000 | 人家才敢給你舉法 |
| 00:14:13,000 | 00:14:16,000 | 不然你永遠就一句話隱匿 |
| 00:14:16,000 | 00:14:17,000 | 所以我沒辦法 |
| 00:14:17,000 | 00:14:18,000 | 這不是推脫支持 |
| 00:14:18,000 | 00:14:21,000 | 政府的責任就是有政府的責任 |
| 00:14:21,000 | 00:14:22,000 | 會 |
| 00:14:22,000 | 00:14:24,000 | 所以我要再一次的強調 |
| 00:14:24,000 | 00:14:25,000 | 也就是說 |
| 00:14:25,000 | 00:14:27,000 | 發生了這麼重大的事情 |
| 00:14:27,000 | 00:14:30,000 | 不管在這個救急的部分 |
| 00:14:30,000 | 00:14:31,000 | 要怎麼做 |
| 00:14:31,000 | 00:14:36,000 | 不管在未來這個救本的部分 |
| 00:14:36,000 | 00:14:38,000 | 要怎麼樣讓民眾能夠安心 |
| 00:14:38,000 | 00:14:40,000 | 我相信這個是民眾所期待的 |
| 00:14:40,000 | 00:14:42,000 | 好 謝謝 |
| 00:14:42,000 | 00:14:44,000 | 剛剛我也去看了 |
| 00:14:44,000 | 00:14:47,000 | 我們總統府的這幾個孩子 |
| 00:14:47,000 | 00:14:49,000 | 大家為了這個食安 |
| 00:14:49,000 | 00:14:50,000 | 願意各種方式 |
| 00:14:50,000 | 00:14:53,000 | 去讓政府看到我們的需求是什麼 |
| 00:14:53,000 | 00:14:55,000 | 你會去看看 |
| 00:14:55,000 | 00:14:58,000 | 我想我們有很多的表達的方式 |
| 00:14:58,000 | 00:15:00,000 | 跟溝通的方式 |
| 00:15:00,000 | 00:15:03,000 | 那麼還是保重身體 |
| 00:15:03,000 | 00:15:04,000 | 還是保重身體 |
| 00:15:07,000 | 00:15:09,000 | 謝謝楊瓊議員的質詢 |