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羅明才 @ 第11屆第5會期財政委員會第23次全體委員會議
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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:03,000 | 請財政部莊部長 |
| 00:00:03,000 | 00:00:04,500 | 官務署彭署長 |
| 00:00:05,100 | 00:00:06,100 | 好 嗯 |
| 00:00:06,640 | 00:00:07,720 | 部長你好 |
| 00:00:08,300 | 00:00:09,300 | 北安好 |
| 00:00:09,300 | 00:00:10,900 | 在十年前啊 |
| 00:00:10,900 | 00:00:13,800 | 台灣股市的市值大概多少 |
| 00:00:20,700 | 00:00:23,100 | 大概幾兆啦 市值應該是 |
| 00:00:23,100 | 00:00:24,500 | 大概不到 |
| 00:00:24,500 | 00:00:26,200 | 不到二十兆啦 |
| 00:00:26,200 | 00:00:28,200 | 那現在市值是多少 |
| 00:00:30,600 | 00:00:32,600 | 大概一百六十兆啦 |
| 00:00:32,600 | 00:00:34,100 | 那我們看到 |
| 00:00:34,100 | 00:00:37,100 | 證交稅搶棍 |
| 00:00:37,100 | 00:00:38,100 | 去年 |
| 00:00:38,100 | 00:00:41,100 | 證交稅大概編是編多少 |
| 00:00:41,100 | 00:00:43,100 | 您說去年是不是 |
| 00:00:43,100 | 00:00:44,100 | 去年 |
| 00:00:44,100 | 00:00:46,100 | 去年114年還是 |
| 00:00:46,100 | 00:00:47,100 | 是 114 |
| 00:00:47,100 | 00:00:50,100 | 114年的證交稅是 |
| 00:00:50,100 | 00:00:51,100 | 我看一下 |
| 00:00:51,100 | 00:00:54,100 | 114年我們的證交稅 |
| 00:00:54,100 | 00:00:56,100 | 收起的是我在 |
| 00:00:56,100 | 00:00:58,100 | 證交稅是收了多少 |
| 00:00:58,100 | 00:00:59,100 | 我們再查一下 |
| 00:00:59,200 | 00:01:01,200 | 大概是編 |
| 00:01:01,200 | 00:01:04,200 | 三千八百億左右吧 |
| 00:01:04,200 | 00:01:07,200 | 114年我們是編了 |
| 00:01:07,200 | 00:01:09,200 | 兩千六百四十四億 |
| 00:01:09,200 | 00:01:12,200 | 那時收是兩千九百二十八億 |
| 00:01:12,200 | 00:01:13,200 | 大概三千啦 |
| 00:01:13,200 | 00:01:14,200 | 三千億 |
| 00:01:14,200 | 00:01:15,200 | 那請問哦 |
| 00:01:15,200 | 00:01:17,200 | 今年的部分 |
| 00:01:17,200 | 00:01:18,200 | 證交稅 |
| 00:01:18,200 | 00:01:20,200 | 其實目前為止已經多少了 |
| 00:01:20,200 | 00:01:23,200 | 目前為止證交稅到我們 |
| 00:01:23,200 | 00:01:24,200 | 六月底的統計 |
| 00:01:24,200 | 00:01:26,200 | 證交稅是收了 |
| 00:01:26,300 | 00:01:29,300 | 3336億 |
| 00:01:29,300 | 00:01:30,300 | 那 |
| 00:01:30,300 | 00:01:32,300 | 不到 |
| 00:01:32,300 | 00:01:33,300 | 大概七個月的時間 |
| 00:01:33,300 | 00:01:35,300 | 已經追平了 |
| 00:01:35,300 | 00:01:37,300 | 上個年度的稅路 |
| 00:01:37,300 | 00:01:39,300 | 六個月的時間 |
| 00:01:39,300 | 00:01:41,300 | 那預估這樣算起來的話 |
| 00:01:41,300 | 00:01:43,300 | 如果沒有太大變動 |
| 00:01:43,300 | 00:01:45,300 | 證交稅今年的 |
| 00:01:45,300 | 00:01:47,300 | 稅率應該有多少 |
| 00:01:47,300 | 00:01:49,300 | 證交稅今年 |
| 00:01:49,300 | 00:01:51,300 | 如果我們大概現在出估的話 |
| 00:01:51,300 | 00:01:53,300 | 可能會超過六千億吧 |
| 00:01:53,300 | 00:01:55,300 | 全年會超過六千億 |
| 00:01:55,399 | 00:01:57,399 | 好那六千減四大概 |
| 00:01:57,399 | 00:01:59,399 | 那我算了一下 |
| 00:01:59,399 | 00:02:01,399 | 應該是每個人 |
| 00:02:01,399 | 00:02:02,399 | 普發現金一萬 |
| 00:02:02,399 | 00:02:04,399 | 是OK的啊 |
| 00:02:04,399 | 00:02:05,399 | 有錢啊 |
| 00:02:05,399 | 00:02:07,399 | 跟委員報告的話 |
| 00:02:07,399 | 00:02:09,400 | 我想政府的財政 |
| 00:02:09,400 | 00:02:11,400 | 要考慮整體的一個 |
| 00:02:11,400 | 00:02:13,400 | 任性跟國家建設的 |
| 00:02:13,400 | 00:02:15,400 | 任性也很好啊 |
| 00:02:15,400 | 00:02:17,400 | 你大概三四年前的話 |
| 00:02:17,400 | 00:02:19,400 | 那還要舉債的問題 |
| 00:02:19,400 | 00:02:20,400 | 是 |
| 00:02:20,400 | 00:02:22,400 | 大概抓五年前 |
| 00:02:22,400 | 00:02:23,400 | 五年前的時候 |
| 00:02:23,500 | 00:02:25,500 | 大概是變多少 |
| 00:02:25,500 | 00:02:27,500 | 一整年度 |
| 00:02:27,500 | 00:02:29,500 | 我們要再看一下實際的數字 |
| 00:02:29,500 | 00:02:31,500 | 那跟委員報告 |
| 00:02:31,500 | 00:02:33,500 | 其實在財化法修了以後 |
| 00:02:33,500 | 00:02:35,500 | 我們的營業稅 |
| 00:02:35,500 | 00:02:37,500 | 本來的收入是 |
| 00:02:37,500 | 00:02:39,500 | 小英總統那個時期 |
| 00:02:39,500 | 00:02:41,500 | 小英那個時期的時候 |
| 00:02:41,500 | 00:02:43,500 | 大概是大概一兆八吧 |
| 00:02:43,500 | 00:02:45,500 | 兩兆 |
| 00:02:45,500 | 00:02:47,500 | 那我們現在成長到 |
| 00:02:47,500 | 00:02:49,500 | 快三兆多了 |
| 00:02:49,500 | 00:02:51,500 | 成到兩千億 |
| 00:02:51,600 | 00:02:53,600 | 所以其實 |
| 00:02:53,600 | 00:02:55,600 | 錢很多啊 |
| 00:02:55,600 | 00:02:57,600 | 因為稅率增加很多 |
| 00:02:57,600 | 00:02:59,600 | 那 |
| 00:02:59,600 | 00:03:01,600 | 我剛剛提的就是說 |
| 00:03:01,600 | 00:03:03,600 | 既然現在 |
| 00:03:03,600 | 00:03:05,600 | K型化 |
| 00:03:05,600 | 00:03:07,600 | 的社會結構已經到來 |
| 00:03:07,600 | 00:03:09,600 | 一般的基層民眾 |
| 00:03:09,600 | 00:03:11,600 | 真的熬熬待哺 |
| 00:03:11,600 | 00:03:13,600 | 真的賺錢的就是 |
| 00:03:13,600 | 00:03:15,600 | AI半導體 |
| 00:03:15,600 | 00:03:17,600 | 那些電子 |
| 00:03:17,600 | 00:03:19,600 | 傳統的部分 |
| 00:03:19,700 | 00:03:21,700 | 大概很多類股 |
| 00:03:21,700 | 00:03:23,700 | 已經跌破了二十年線 |
| 00:03:23,700 | 00:03:25,700 | 所以本行一直主張 |
| 00:03:25,700 | 00:03:27,700 | 多多來照顧年輕人 |
| 00:03:27,700 | 00:03:29,700 | 多多來照顧 |
| 00:03:29,700 | 00:03:31,700 | 辛苦的 |
| 00:03:31,700 | 00:03:33,700 | 一般的大眾 |
| 00:03:33,700 | 00:03:35,700 | 所以普發現金一萬 |
| 00:03:35,700 | 00:03:37,700 | 這個勢在必行 |
| 00:03:37,700 | 00:03:39,700 | 你不做地方都在做了 |
| 00:03:39,700 | 00:03:41,700 | 今天有很多地方 |
| 00:03:41,700 | 00:03:43,700 | 稅務單位 |
| 00:03:43,700 | 00:03:45,700 | 大概陸陸續續幾年度 |
| 00:03:45,700 | 00:03:47,700 | 發五千 |
| 00:03:47,799 | 00:03:49,799 | 發六千 |
| 00:03:49,799 | 00:03:51,799 | 發八千的 |
| 00:03:51,799 | 00:03:53,799 | 大概有幾個地方已經開始普發現金了 |
| 00:03:55,799 | 00:03:57,799 | 我想這個部分要跟您說明一下 |
| 00:03:57,799 | 00:03:59,799 | 政府的收入 |
| 00:03:59,799 | 00:04:01,799 | 是要當然要做 |
| 00:04:01,799 | 00:04:03,799 | 資源最妥善的分配 |
| 00:04:03,799 | 00:04:05,799 | 對於未成年人 |
| 00:04:05,799 | 00:04:07,799 | 或者是 |
| 00:04:07,799 | 00:04:09,799 | 我先講那個中小微企業好了 |
| 00:04:09,799 | 00:04:11,799 | 政府已經要提出中小微企業轉型 |
| 00:04:11,799 | 00:04:13,799 | 升級的方案 |
| 00:04:13,799 | 00:04:15,799 | 那在這裡面我們對於 |
| 00:04:15,900 | 00:04:17,900 | 除了要支持他轉型 |
| 00:04:17,900 | 00:04:19,900 | 升級然後AI化運用化 |
| 00:04:19,900 | 00:04:21,900 | 職人工智慧化要讓他 |
| 00:04:21,900 | 00:04:23,900 | 跟上整個的一個產業 |
| 00:04:23,900 | 00:04:25,900 | 這個部分要做 |
| 00:04:25,900 | 00:04:27,900 | 對於所謂的青年門的一個支持 |
| 00:04:27,900 | 00:04:29,900 | 政府也是全面向的 |
| 00:04:29,900 | 00:04:31,900 | 在做多方面的 |
| 00:04:31,900 | 00:04:33,900 | 包含企業的支持 |
| 00:04:33,900 | 00:04:35,900 | 然後有在一個職業環境 |
| 00:04:35,900 | 00:04:37,900 | 我想 |
| 00:04:37,900 | 00:04:39,900 | 地方政府剛剛說到 |
| 00:04:39,900 | 00:04:41,900 | 地價稅防護稅減免 |
| 00:04:41,900 | 00:04:43,900 | 通通要做到補助可是卻在 |
| 00:04:44,000 | 00:04:46,000 | 這個部分 |
| 00:04:46,000 | 00:04:48,000 | 財政的資源是要做一個 |
| 00:04:48,000 | 00:04:50,000 | 非常有效的一些運用 |
| 00:04:50,000 | 00:04:52,000 | 去年普發現金以外 |
| 00:04:52,000 | 00:04:54,000 | 滿意度跟支持度大概是多少 |
| 00:04:56,000 | 00:04:58,000 | 這個部分基本上 |
| 00:04:58,000 | 00:05:00,000 | 對於普發現金財政部跟相關部會 |
| 00:05:00,000 | 00:05:02,000 | 都努力在做讓我們整個 |
| 00:05:02,000 | 00:05:04,000 | 發放作業非常的順暢 |
| 00:05:04,000 | 00:05:06,000 | 去年度普發現金以外 |
| 00:05:06,000 | 00:05:08,000 | 滿意度多少 |
| 00:05:08,000 | 00:05:10,000 | 這個部分 |
| 00:05:10,000 | 00:05:12,000 | 領取率達到99.1% |
| 00:05:12,100 | 00:05:14,100 | 99.1% |
| 00:05:14,100 | 00:05:16,100 | 領取9點幾 |
| 00:05:16,100 | 00:05:18,100 | 滿意度呢支持度 |
| 00:05:18,100 | 00:05:20,100 | 讓他非常的順暢 |
| 00:05:20,100 | 00:05:22,100 | 請旁邊的署長 |
| 00:05:22,100 | 00:05:24,100 | 部長今天問你都沒有回答 |
| 00:05:24,100 | 00:05:26,100 | 我給你幾分鐘 |
| 00:05:26,100 | 00:05:28,100 | 你趕快把剛剛問的問題 |
| 00:05:28,100 | 00:05:30,100 | 回答我一下請說 |
| 00:05:30,100 | 00:05:32,100 | 跟委員報告 |
| 00:05:32,100 | 00:05:34,100 | 我們有做那個 |
| 00:05:34,100 | 00:05:36,100 | 滿意度調查 |
| 00:05:36,100 | 00:05:38,100 | 客服服務的滿意度 |
| 00:05:38,100 | 00:05:40,100 | 是多少 |
| 00:05:40,200 | 00:05:42,200 | 98點多 |
| 00:05:42,200 | 00:05:44,200 | 表示民眾對於普發現金 |
| 00:05:44,200 | 00:05:46,200 | 有他欽切期盼 |
| 00:05:46,200 | 00:05:48,200 | 再繞回來剛剛講說 |
| 00:05:48,200 | 00:05:50,200 | 地方政府每個地方 |
| 00:05:50,200 | 00:05:52,200 | 都有發普發現金 |
| 00:05:52,200 | 00:05:54,200 | 50008000 情況是怎麼樣 |
| 00:05:54,200 | 00:05:56,200 | 地方政府 |
| 00:05:56,200 | 00:05:58,200 | 應該就是看他們 |
| 00:05:58,200 | 00:06:00,200 | 自己的財力負擔 |
| 00:06:00,200 | 00:06:02,200 | 來看誰來講 |
| 00:06:02,200 | 00:06:04,200 | 新竹市有發多少 |
| 00:06:04,200 | 00:06:06,200 | 3000是不是 |
| 00:06:06,200 | 00:06:08,200 | 有發的上來一下好了 |
| 00:06:08,300 | 00:06:10,300 | 時間暫停一下 |
| 00:06:16,300 | 00:06:18,300 | 請上來那棚屋也有發 |
| 00:06:18,300 | 00:06:20,300 | 彰化有發 |
| 00:06:20,300 | 00:06:22,300 | 部長 |
| 00:06:22,300 | 00:06:24,300 | 有發的你們統計 |
| 00:06:24,300 | 00:06:26,300 | 他們都不敢上來 |
| 00:06:26,300 | 00:06:28,300 | 地方政府他們 |
| 00:06:28,300 | 00:06:30,300 | 為什麼他們不敢上來 |
| 00:06:30,300 | 00:06:32,300 | 那不敢上來 |
| 00:06:32,300 | 00:06:34,300 | 因為剛剛他們都舉手說 |
| 00:06:34,300 | 00:06:36,300 | 要補助3 5億 |
| 00:06:36,400 | 00:06:38,400 | 那兩件嘛 |
| 00:06:38,400 | 00:06:40,400 | 你該做的做嘛對小孩照顧 |
| 00:06:40,400 | 00:06:42,400 | 對老人也要 |
| 00:06:42,400 | 00:06:44,400 | 地方要發的情況是怎麼樣 |
| 00:06:46,400 | 00:06:48,400 | 除非有發 |
| 00:06:48,400 | 00:06:50,400 | 地方公務有發 |
| 00:06:50,400 | 00:06:52,400 | 財政單位都在這邊 |
| 00:06:52,400 | 00:06:54,400 | 我想他們可以做說明的 |
| 00:06:54,400 | 00:06:56,400 | 部長請他們有發的上來講一下 |
| 00:06:56,400 | 00:06:58,400 | 要委員請不是我請 |
| 00:06:58,400 | 00:07:00,400 | 我請啊 |
| 00:07:00,400 | 00:07:02,400 | 有發的請他上來 |
| 00:07:02,400 | 00:07:04,400 | 你要指定哪一個縣市 |
| 00:07:04,500 | 00:07:06,500 | 不是他大概有發的大概有8個縣市 |
| 00:07:06,500 | 00:07:08,500 | 那你講哪一個縣市 |
| 00:07:08,500 | 00:07:10,500 | 棚屋有發 |
| 00:07:10,500 | 00:07:12,500 | 彰化 |
| 00:07:12,500 | 00:07:14,500 | 新竹苗栗 |
| 00:07:14,500 | 00:07:16,500 | 全部都要嗎 |
| 00:07:16,500 | 00:07:18,500 | 彰化縣地方稅務局 |
| 00:07:18,500 | 00:07:20,500 | 高層右科長 |
| 00:07:20,500 | 00:07:22,500 | 黃柏右科長 |
| 00:07:22,500 | 00:07:24,500 | 然後還有哪裡 |
| 00:07:24,500 | 00:07:25,500 | 棚屋 |
| 00:07:25,500 | 00:07:27,500 | 劉瑞銘科長 |
| 00:07:27,500 | 00:07:29,500 | 新竹 |
| 00:07:29,500 | 00:07:31,500 | 苗栗右科 |
| 00:07:31,500 | 00:07:33,500 | 請上來 |
| 00:07:33,600 | 00:07:35,600 | 請上來 |
| 00:07:35,600 | 00:07:37,600 | 你有來練習我點到明請你上台 |
| 00:07:39,600 | 00:07:42,600 | 你看我請他們上來就花了快5分鐘了 |
| 00:07:42,600 | 00:07:44,600 | 沒有你本來就沒那麼多時間 |
| 00:07:44,600 | 00:07:46,600 | 剩下1分鐘多而已 |
| 00:07:46,600 | 00:07:48,600 | 趕快上來 |
| 00:07:52,600 | 00:07:54,600 | 請問一下你們花這個錢 |
| 00:07:54,600 | 00:07:56,600 | 地方支持度很高 |
| 00:07:56,600 | 00:07:58,600 | 有沒有這個需要 |
| 00:07:58,600 | 00:08:00,600 | 委員不好意思因為我們彰化發 |
| 00:08:00,600 | 00:08:02,600 | 我們不是縣裡面有發 |
| 00:08:02,700 | 00:08:04,700 | 我們本身在發的 |
| 00:08:04,700 | 00:08:06,700 | 花多少錢 |
| 00:08:06,700 | 00:08:08,700 | 我們知道花但是他有發6000 |
| 00:08:08,700 | 00:08:09,700 | 多少 |
| 00:08:09,700 | 00:08:11,700 | 6000 |
| 00:08:11,700 | 00:08:13,700 | 一定是有需要才會花 |
| 00:08:13,700 | 00:08:15,700 | 因為 |
| 00:08:15,700 | 00:08:17,700 | 最主要中央一萬塊不花 |
| 00:08:17,700 | 00:08:19,700 | 變成你們地方自己來花 |
| 00:08:19,700 | 00:08:21,700 | 另外還有誰有花 |
| 00:08:27,700 | 00:08:29,700 | 部長你們 |
| 00:08:29,800 | 00:08:31,800 | 剛剛彰化縣是說 |
| 00:08:31,800 | 00:08:33,799 | 縣政府沒有發 |
| 00:08:33,799 | 00:08:35,799 | 是花壇相公出 |
| 00:08:35,799 | 00:08:37,799 | 新竹市應該 |
| 00:08:37,799 | 00:08:39,799 | 變成就是地方都有在花 |
| 00:08:39,799 | 00:08:41,799 | 所以你就 |
| 00:08:41,799 | 00:08:43,799 | 好啦時間關係你們把那個表 |
| 00:08:43,799 | 00:08:45,800 | 再給我好了 |
| 00:08:45,800 | 00:08:47,800 | 那我最後講一句話就是說 |
| 00:08:47,800 | 00:08:49,800 | 因為中央都不花 |
| 00:08:49,800 | 00:08:51,800 | 所以地方就沒有辦法要去花 |
| 00:08:51,800 | 00:08:53,800 | 那我覺得該花就花 |
| 00:08:53,800 | 00:08:55,800 | 因為有很多人 |
| 00:08:55,800 | 00:08:57,800 | 是嗷嗷待哺 |
| 00:08:57,900 | 00:08:59,900 | 其實我覺得孤獨老人 |
| 00:08:59,900 | 00:09:01,900 | 其實我今天要談論還有疑政稅的問題 |
| 00:09:01,900 | 00:09:03,900 | 要孤獨老死掉了很多 |
| 00:09:03,900 | 00:09:05,900 | 這些以後理財怎麼辦 |
| 00:09:05,900 | 00:09:07,900 | 孤老就是他剩下他自己一個人 |
| 00:09:07,900 | 00:09:11,900 | 今天講到疑政稅的部分 |
| 00:09:11,900 | 00:09:13,900 | 很多東西都還沒問到 |
| 00:09:13,900 | 00:09:15,900 | 謝謝因為 |
| 00:09:15,900 | 00:09:17,900 | 書面給我好了 |
| 00:09:17,900 | 00:09:19,900 | 那以後你還有很多諮詢的機會 |
| 00:09:19,900 | 00:09:21,900 | 我還在還遇得到 |
| 00:09:21,900 | 00:09:23,900 | 謝謝謝謝委員謝謝 |
| 00:09:23,900 | 00:09:25,900 | 好下一位諮詢委員 |
| 00:09:26,000 | 00:09:28,000 | 鄭任選委員鄭任選委員不在 |
| 00:09:28,000 | 00:09:30,000 | 請莊家濱委員 |
| 00:09:30,000 | 00:09:32,000 | 四分鐘 |