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李坤城 @ 第11屆第5會期財政委員會第23次全體委員會議
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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:04,000 | 委員好 |
| 00:00:04,000 | 00:00:05,000 | 部長 |
| 00:00:05,000 | 00:00:10,000 | 這個新清安3.0的政策是8月1號開始上路嗎 |
| 00:00:10,000 | 00:00:12,000 | 是的 |
| 00:00:12,000 | 00:00:13,000 | 8月1號上路 |
| 00:00:13,000 | 00:00:14,000 | 然後呢 |
| 00:00:14,000 | 00:00:17,000 | 那其實我覺得裡面對於這個新婚夫妻來講 |
| 00:00:17,000 | 00:00:19,000 | 其實我也很關心 |
| 00:00:19,000 | 00:00:23,000 | 就是說你們對於婚育的家庭都與這個提高補助 |
| 00:00:23,000 | 00:00:29,000 | 你如果是在這個申請日的兩年內完成婚姻登記的話 |
| 00:00:29,000 | 00:00:31,000 | 最高可以帶到1200萬 |
| 00:00:31,000 | 00:00:32,000 | 這鼓勵新婚 |
| 00:00:32,000 | 00:00:35,000 | 然後如果這個有未成年子女的話 |
| 00:00:35,000 | 00:00:37,000 | 就可以提高到1500萬 |
| 00:00:37,000 | 00:00:39,000 | 這鼓勵生小孩啦 |
| 00:00:39,000 | 00:00:41,000 | 那有一些問題 |
| 00:00:41,000 | 00:00:43,000 | 再請教一下部長 |
| 00:00:43,000 | 00:00:45,000 | 那現在就是說 |
| 00:00:45,000 | 00:00:47,000 | 未成年的子女 |
| 00:00:47,000 | 00:00:48,000 | 有1500萬 |
| 00:00:48,000 | 00:00:50,000 | 那包含就是說 |
| 00:00:50,000 | 00:00:51,000 | 這個懷孕嘛 |
| 00:00:51,000 | 00:00:52,000 | 是不是 |
| 00:00:52,000 | 00:00:54,000 | 你只有領有這個媽媽手冊 |
| 00:00:54,000 | 00:00:56,000 | 就是說那也適用這個 |
| 00:00:56,000 | 00:00:58,000 | 屬於這個未成年子女的家庭嘛 |
| 00:00:58,000 | 00:00:59,000 | 是的 |
| 00:00:59,000 | 00:01:01,000 | 他是有媽媽手冊 |
| 00:01:01,000 | 00:01:03,000 | 有媽媽手冊就可以嘛 |
| 00:01:03,000 | 00:01:04,000 | 就是懷孕 |
| 00:01:04,000 | 00:01:06,000 | 領有媽媽手冊也可以 |
| 00:01:06,000 | 00:01:09,000 | 他生代的時候就有這樣懷孕了 |
| 00:01:09,000 | 00:01:12,000 | 就是也可以適用到這個1500萬的額度嘛 |
| 00:01:12,000 | 00:01:13,000 | 是不是 |
| 00:01:13,000 | 00:01:14,000 | 好 |
| 00:01:14,000 | 00:01:16,000 | 那請教一下 |
| 00:01:16,000 | 00:01:18,000 | 就是說我們當然是希望說 |
| 00:01:18,000 | 00:01:19,000 | 這個結婚之後就是 |
| 00:01:19,000 | 00:01:22,000 | 同時過著幸福美滿快樂的生活 |
| 00:01:22,000 | 00:01:23,000 | 有生小孩 |
| 00:01:23,000 | 00:01:24,000 | 那萬一啦 |
| 00:01:24,000 | 00:01:26,000 | 如果說這個 |
| 00:01:26,000 | 00:01:28,000 | 我們生代了這個 |
| 00:01:28,000 | 00:01:29,000 | 新鮮3.0之後 |
| 00:01:29,000 | 00:01:31,000 | 那如果萬一不幸 |
| 00:01:31,000 | 00:01:32,000 | 夫妻 |
| 00:01:32,000 | 00:01:33,000 | 我先講說沒有小孩的部分啊 |
| 00:01:33,000 | 00:01:35,000 | 那如果夫妻離婚之後 |
| 00:01:35,000 | 00:01:36,000 | 那你們這個 |
| 00:01:36,000 | 00:01:37,000 | 這個要怎麼算 |
| 00:01:37,000 | 00:01:39,000 | 你們這個額度會墜回來嗎 |
| 00:01:39,000 | 00:01:40,000 | 利息會墜回來嗎 |
| 00:01:40,000 | 00:01:42,000 | 我想是這樣子 |
| 00:01:42,000 | 00:01:43,000 | 因為他能夠帶到 |
| 00:01:43,000 | 00:01:45,000 | 假設說新婚夫妻能帶到 |
| 00:01:45,000 | 00:01:46,000 | 新婚夫妻1200萬嘛 |
| 00:01:46,000 | 00:01:48,000 | 假設他能到1200萬 |
| 00:01:48,000 | 00:01:50,000 | 表示他這個房子的貸款 |
| 00:01:50,000 | 00:01:51,000 | 因為我們的貸款 |
| 00:01:51,000 | 00:01:53,000 | 那個額度還是不能超過 |
| 00:01:53,000 | 00:01:54,000 | 房屋的8成 |
| 00:01:54,000 | 00:01:55,000 | 不能超過8成嘛 |
| 00:01:55,000 | 00:01:56,000 | 這個部分 |
| 00:01:56,000 | 00:01:58,000 | 表示說這個房子的擔保品 |
| 00:01:58,000 | 00:02:01,000 | 足以去讓他帶給他1200萬 |
| 00:02:01,000 | 00:02:02,000 | 這個還是要有個前提 |
| 00:02:02,000 | 00:02:03,000 | 不是只有婚姻 |
| 00:02:03,000 | 00:02:04,000 | 你有結婚就可以 |
| 00:02:04,000 | 00:02:05,000 | 一定帶到1200萬 |
| 00:02:05,000 | 00:02:06,000 | 這是增加的吧 |
| 00:02:06,000 | 00:02:08,000 | 對 假設他帶了1200萬 |
| 00:02:08,000 | 00:02:10,000 | 那是在這個6年裡面 |
| 00:02:10,000 | 00:02:12,000 | 這個6年有利息補貼情況 |
| 00:02:12,000 | 00:02:14,000 | 如果婚姻發生變化 |
| 00:02:14,000 | 00:02:15,000 | 譬如說他就離婚的話 |
| 00:02:15,000 | 00:02:18,000 | 那我們也只會就那200萬的部分 |
| 00:02:18,000 | 00:02:20,000 | 從他婚姻關係消滅起 |
| 00:02:20,000 | 00:02:22,000 | 然後停止他這個利息的補貼 |
| 00:02:22,000 | 00:02:24,000 | 就是多的那200萬 |
| 00:02:24,000 | 00:02:25,000 | 就是這200萬 |
| 00:02:25,000 | 00:02:27,000 | 你說是因為我們是3加3嘛 |
| 00:02:27,000 | 00:02:28,000 | 是不是 |
| 00:02:28,000 | 00:02:29,000 | 3加3嘛 |
| 00:02:29,000 | 00:02:30,000 | 6年的這個利息補貼 |
| 00:02:30,000 | 00:02:31,000 | 那他6年以後再離婚的話 |
| 00:02:31,000 | 00:02:32,000 | 那當然也就是另外一件事情 |
| 00:02:32,000 | 00:02:34,000 | 那你如果超過6年之後離婚呢 |
| 00:02:34,000 | 00:02:35,000 | 那6年以後 |
| 00:02:35,000 | 00:02:36,000 | 但是他這6年裡面 |
| 00:02:36,000 | 00:02:37,000 | 他是有婚姻關係的啊 |
| 00:02:37,000 | 00:02:38,000 | 對 |
| 00:02:38,000 | 00:02:40,000 | 所以沒有受到影響 |
| 00:02:40,000 | 00:02:41,000 | 不會受到影響 |
| 00:02:41,000 | 00:02:44,000 | 所以說我如果只有6年之後再離婚的話 |
| 00:02:44,000 | 00:02:46,000 | 前面這6年的這個利息補貼 |
| 00:02:46,000 | 00:02:47,000 | 不會受到影響就對了 |
| 00:02:47,000 | 00:02:48,000 | 那時候他有婚姻關係的 |
| 00:02:48,000 | 00:02:50,000 | 額度也不會受到影響 |
| 00:02:50,000 | 00:02:51,000 | 不會 |
| 00:02:51,000 | 00:02:52,000 | 不會 |
| 00:02:52,000 | 00:02:56,000 | 那如果離婚之後 |
| 00:02:56,000 | 00:02:58,000 | 那這個沒有房子的那一方 |
| 00:02:58,000 | 00:03:00,000 | 還可以再去申請 |
| 00:03:00,000 | 00:03:02,000 | 離婚那當然他就是 |
| 00:03:02,000 | 00:03:03,000 | 我們在申請的時候 |
| 00:03:03,000 | 00:03:06,000 | 必須他本人跟配偶還有未成年之女 |
| 00:03:06,000 | 00:03:07,000 | 離婚之後嘛 |
| 00:03:07,000 | 00:03:08,000 | 如果他單身嘛 |
| 00:03:08,000 | 00:03:09,000 | 他就會變成一個單身的嘛 |
| 00:03:09,000 | 00:03:11,000 | 或者是單身或另外新婚 |
| 00:03:11,000 | 00:03:12,000 | 那當然又是用 |
| 00:03:12,000 | 00:03:14,000 | 那就是用1000萬的額度再去申請就對了 |
| 00:03:14,000 | 00:03:15,000 | 但是這個人本身 |
| 00:03:15,000 | 00:03:17,000 | 要沒有帶過心情安喔 |
| 00:03:17,000 | 00:03:18,000 | 對 |
| 00:03:18,000 | 00:03:20,000 | 如果今天啊 |
| 00:03:20,000 | 00:03:23,000 | 如果今天他是這個沒有帶過心情安 |
| 00:03:23,000 | 00:03:25,000 | 然後他離婚了 |
| 00:03:25,000 | 00:03:27,000 | 然後他可以繼續再用這個新鮮的3.0 |
| 00:03:27,000 | 00:03:30,000 | 對那他就是單獨的一個個人嘛 |
| 00:03:30,000 | 00:03:32,000 | 這個真的是講說是這一個沒有小孩的狀態 |
| 00:03:32,000 | 00:03:34,000 | 如果有小孩的狀態咧 |
| 00:03:34,000 | 00:03:35,000 | 有小孩狀態 |
| 00:03:35,000 | 00:03:38,000 | 我們是講是說他遇有未成年子女 |
| 00:03:38,000 | 00:03:39,000 | 遇有未成年子女 |
| 00:03:39,000 | 00:03:41,000 | 如果這房子裡面依然是有一個 |
| 00:03:41,000 | 00:03:43,000 | 有為這位屋主來 |
| 00:03:43,000 | 00:03:45,000 | 這個撫育未成年子女 |
| 00:03:45,000 | 00:03:47,000 | 那當然他還是可以 |
| 00:03:47,000 | 00:03:49,000 | 適用原來的未成年子女相關的 |
| 00:03:49,000 | 00:03:51,000 | 貸款的條件 |
| 00:03:51,000 | 00:03:54,000 | 那現在會不會說就是說 |
| 00:03:54,000 | 00:03:56,000 | 房子的所有人 |
| 00:03:56,000 | 00:03:58,000 | 跟孩子的監護人是不同人 |
| 00:03:58,000 | 00:04:01,000 | 那當然我們不能預期他們未來 |
| 00:04:01,000 | 00:04:03,000 | 對啦我意思是說如果遇到這種情況 |
| 00:04:03,000 | 00:04:05,000 | 比如說A跟B |
| 00:04:05,000 | 00:04:07,000 | A他是這個房子的所有人 |
| 00:04:07,000 | 00:04:09,000 | 但是B他擁有這個監護權 |
| 00:04:09,000 | 00:04:11,000 | 那是B |
| 00:04:11,000 | 00:04:13,000 | 那是B因為他有孩子的監護權 |
| 00:04:13,000 | 00:04:14,000 | 那所以他可以 |
| 00:04:14,000 | 00:04:17,000 | 有這個新清安的這個貸款的這個優惠 |
| 00:04:17,000 | 00:04:18,000 | 是相關的 |
| 00:04:18,000 | 00:04:19,000 | 但是他沒有法治 |
| 00:04:19,000 | 00:04:21,000 | 對相關的細節我想的 |
| 00:04:21,000 | 00:04:23,000 | 因為我們還是會做 |
| 00:04:23,000 | 00:04:26,000 | 詳細明確的一個問答集來做回應 |
| 00:04:26,000 | 00:04:28,000 | 那我現在問你 |
| 00:04:28,000 | 00:04:29,000 | 我現在問你遇到這種情況 |
| 00:04:29,000 | 00:04:31,000 | 六年的利息補貼 |
| 00:04:31,000 | 00:04:33,000 | 那我說遇到這種情況怎麼處理 |
| 00:04:33,000 | 00:04:35,000 | 就是說你監護權跟你這個房子 |
| 00:04:35,000 | 00:04:36,000 | 所有權人是不一樣的 |
| 00:04:36,000 | 00:04:37,000 | 不一致的話 |
| 00:04:37,000 | 00:04:38,000 | 那當然我們 |
| 00:04:38,000 | 00:04:40,000 | 因為原來我們1500 |
| 00:04:40,000 | 00:04:42,000 | 就是因為家庭居住的需求 |
| 00:04:42,000 | 00:04:44,000 | 又有你育有未成年子女 |
| 00:04:44,000 | 00:04:46,000 | 所以你在面積上可能需要空間 |
| 00:04:46,000 | 00:04:47,000 | 對對對我知道 |
| 00:04:47,000 | 00:04:48,000 | 這個我都是鼓勵 |
| 00:04:48,000 | 00:04:49,000 | 我是說 |
| 00:04:49,000 | 00:04:50,000 | 我是說萬一 |
| 00:04:50,000 | 00:04:52,000 | 因為總是會遇到這些問題 |
| 00:04:52,000 | 00:04:53,000 | 大家也會有這個疑問 |
| 00:04:53,000 | 00:04:54,000 | 是是是 |
| 00:04:54,000 | 00:04:56,000 | 那我們會在問答集裡面 |
| 00:04:56,000 | 00:04:57,000 | 未來會做詳細的一些規範 |
| 00:04:57,000 | 00:04:59,000 | 所以你現在還沒有一個答案就對了 |
| 00:04:59,000 | 00:05:02,000 | 當然基本的原則是不變的 |
| 00:05:02,000 | 00:05:04,000 | 所以我剛問你遇到這種情況 |
| 00:05:04,000 | 00:05:06,000 | 就是說你房子的所有人 |
| 00:05:06,000 | 00:05:08,000 | 跟監護權人如果是不一樣的話 |
| 00:05:08,000 | 00:05:10,000 | 也就是說這個孩子不歸 |
| 00:05:10,000 | 00:05:12,000 | 孩子不歸這個房屋主 |
| 00:05:12,000 | 00:05:14,000 | 房子歸到另外一方去 |
| 00:05:14,000 | 00:05:16,000 | 當然就1500萬的部分 |
| 00:05:16,000 | 00:05:18,000 | 我們只就500萬的部分的利息補貼 |
| 00:05:18,000 | 00:05:20,000 | 來做一些處理 |
| 00:05:20,000 | 00:05:21,000 | 所以就是說我 |
| 00:05:21,000 | 00:05:24,000 | 比如說我是屋主用我的名字買的 |
| 00:05:24,000 | 00:05:27,000 | 但是我沒有搶到這個孩子的監護權 |
| 00:05:27,000 | 00:05:29,000 | 那所以說變成說 |
| 00:05:29,000 | 00:05:31,000 | 我這個利息補貼就享受不到就對了 |
| 00:05:31,000 | 00:05:34,000 | 對但是從那個發生變化以後 |
| 00:05:34,000 | 00:05:35,000 | 對 |
| 00:05:35,000 | 00:05:37,000 | 那所以說 |
| 00:05:37,000 | 00:05:39,000 | 就是會遇到這種情況 |
| 00:05:39,000 | 00:05:41,000 | 就是說你不一定說你的 |
| 00:05:41,000 | 00:05:44,000 | 你用你的名字去聲帶心情安 |
| 00:05:44,000 | 00:05:47,000 | 但是你最後沒有這一個監護權 |
| 00:05:47,000 | 00:05:49,000 | 你們是以有沒有監護權 |
| 00:05:49,000 | 00:05:51,000 | 有沒有監護權來判定說 |
| 00:05:51,000 | 00:05:53,000 | 有沒有做這個利息補貼就對了 |
| 00:05:53,000 | 00:05:55,000 | 對是的 |
| 00:05:55,000 | 00:05:57,000 | 對那所以就是說 |
| 00:05:57,000 | 00:05:59,000 | 萬一遇到這種事情的話 |
| 00:05:59,000 | 00:06:00,000 | 你除了這個 |
| 00:06:00,000 | 00:06:02,000 | 還要去搶那個孩子的監護權 |
| 00:06:02,000 | 00:06:04,000 | 你才有辦法有這個利息的補貼 |
| 00:06:04,000 | 00:06:05,000 | 不會 |
| 00:06:05,000 | 00:06:06,000 | 那個是 |
| 00:06:06,000 | 00:06:08,000 | 我想這種婚姻發生這種情況 |
| 00:06:08,000 | 00:06:09,000 | 雙方都要 |
| 00:06:09,000 | 00:06:11,000 | 沒有就是說我們要把任何的問題 |
| 00:06:11,000 | 00:06:12,000 | 就先想清楚 |
| 00:06:12,000 | 00:06:14,000 | 相關的條款他們之間互相的協議 |
| 00:06:14,000 | 00:06:16,000 | 都應該會去考慮 |
| 00:06:16,000 | 00:06:19,000 | 那你們那個Q&A是哪時候會出來 |
| 00:06:19,000 | 00:06:21,000 | 就是說一定會遇到這種 |
| 00:06:21,000 | 00:06:22,000 | 我們已經有在籌備 |
| 00:06:22,000 | 00:06:24,000 | 然後很快就會出來 |
| 00:06:24,000 | 00:06:26,000 | 8月1號不是要上路了嗎 |
| 00:06:26,000 | 00:06:28,000 | 對可以現在上 |
| 00:06:28,000 | 00:06:30,000 | 那可以滾動的也不斷的去新增 |
| 00:06:30,000 | 00:06:32,000 | 或做一些調整都會的 |
| 00:06:32,000 | 00:06:34,000 | 我們會隨時做檢討調整這樣子 |
| 00:06:34,000 | 00:06:36,000 | 好那你們現在對於這個 |
| 00:06:36,000 | 00:06:38,000 | 這個貸款 |
| 00:06:38,000 | 00:06:40,000 | 房屋總價上限有這個上限的規定 |
| 00:06:40,000 | 00:06:42,000 | 就是說你超過那上限 |
| 00:06:42,000 | 00:06:44,000 | 我就是不讓你帶嘛對不對 |
| 00:06:44,000 | 00:06:46,000 | 台北市3500萬 |
| 00:06:46,000 | 00:06:48,000 | 新北市新竹縣市2500萬 |
| 00:06:48,000 | 00:06:50,000 | 其他縣市就是2000萬 |
| 00:06:50,000 | 00:06:52,000 | 我只要房子總價超過了 |
| 00:06:52,000 | 00:06:54,000 | 我就不會讓你帶嘛對不對 |
| 00:06:54,000 | 00:06:56,000 | 好那所以 |
| 00:06:56,000 | 00:06:58,000 | 訂這個價格是 |
| 00:06:58,000 | 00:07:00,000 | 是有引導建商 |
| 00:07:00,000 | 00:07:02,000 | 修正價格的用意在嗎 |
| 00:07:02,000 | 00:07:04,000 | 就是說你房子不要超過 |
| 00:07:04,000 | 00:07:06,000 | 這個上限 |
| 00:07:06,000 | 00:07:08,000 | 你就沒辦法用到這個新青睞 |
| 00:07:08,000 | 00:07:10,000 | 有這個用意在嗎 |
| 00:07:10,000 | 00:07:12,000 | 主要這樣的目的是為了讓就是說 |
| 00:07:12,000 | 00:07:14,000 | 你有能力去買那麼高 |
| 00:07:14,000 | 00:07:15,000 | 那個價錢的話 |
| 00:07:15,000 | 00:07:17,000 | 那表示你是一個高財力的 |
| 00:07:17,000 | 00:07:18,000 | 高所得高資歷者 |
| 00:07:18,000 | 00:07:20,000 | 那就不是政府要優先補助的 |
| 00:07:20,000 | 00:07:22,000 | 一些對優先協助的對象 |
| 00:07:22,000 | 00:07:24,000 | 所以我們不需要有一個 |
| 00:07:24,000 | 00:07:25,000 | 必須要有一個限制 |
| 00:07:25,000 | 00:07:27,000 | 也就是這個就是在我們2.0的時候 |
| 00:07:27,000 | 00:07:29,000 | 也有社會有這樣的一些反應 |
| 00:07:29,000 | 00:07:31,000 | 所以我們這次就訂這個 |
| 00:07:31,000 | 00:07:33,000 | 那訂這個也是根據內政部的相關的 |
| 00:07:33,000 | 00:07:35,000 | 一些調查的一些數據裡面 |
| 00:07:35,000 | 00:07:37,000 | 以後我們訂出這樣的一個數 |
| 00:07:37,000 | 00:07:39,000 | 對啦我是說那這個會不會就是說 |
| 00:07:39,000 | 00:07:41,000 | 讓建商知道說你房子如果超過 |
| 00:07:41,000 | 00:07:43,000 | 這一個總價這個 |
| 00:07:43,000 | 00:07:45,000 | 新青睞就聲帶不到 |
| 00:07:45,000 | 00:07:47,000 | 那有沒有引導房價 |
| 00:07:47,000 | 00:07:49,000 | 價格修正的這個用意在 |
| 00:07:49,000 | 00:07:51,000 | 我們這個部分其實當然在 |
| 00:07:51,000 | 00:07:53,000 | 討論過程當中也有這樣的 |
| 00:07:53,000 | 00:07:55,000 | 一個討論但是我們認為現在的 |
| 00:07:55,000 | 00:07:57,000 | 一個房地產的一個情況 |
| 00:07:57,000 | 00:07:59,000 | 跟在我們推出2.0的時候 |
| 00:07:59,000 | 00:08:01,000 | 情況已經有不同而且信用管制 |
| 00:08:01,000 | 00:08:03,000 | 也持續 央行的信用管制也還在持續當中 |
| 00:08:03,000 | 00:08:05,000 | 那內政部也會對房地產 |
| 00:08:05,000 | 00:08:07,000 | 市場的一個情況 |
| 00:08:07,000 | 00:08:09,000 | 也會關注 |
| 00:08:09,000 | 00:08:11,000 | 那必要的時候他們也都會加強查核 |
| 00:08:11,000 | 00:08:13,000 | 以及跟地方政府一起去查辦 |
| 00:08:13,000 | 00:08:15,000 | 有沒有炒作房市的一個情況 |
| 00:08:15,000 | 00:08:17,000 | 都會去加強做這方面的管理 |
| 00:08:17,000 | 00:08:19,000 | 這部分在我們討論過程當中 |
| 00:08:19,000 | 00:08:21,000 | 都有提到 |
| 00:08:21,000 | 00:08:23,000 | 那我再問一下這個問題 |
| 00:08:23,000 | 00:08:25,000 | 有這個問題就是說現在 |
| 00:08:25,000 | 00:08:27,000 | 這個食品雲因為我上次問過卓院長 |
| 00:08:27,000 | 00:08:29,000 | 他也認為說這個食品雲 |
| 00:08:29,000 | 00:08:31,000 | 有很大的空間要做討論 |
| 00:08:31,000 | 00:08:33,000 | 那我們現在有這個 |
| 00:08:33,000 | 00:08:35,000 | 財政部的電子發票系統 |
| 00:08:35,000 | 00:08:37,000 | 那我們這個電子發票系統 |
| 00:08:37,000 | 00:08:39,000 | 跟衛福部的這個食品雲 |
| 00:08:39,000 | 00:08:41,000 | 到底 |
| 00:08:41,000 | 00:08:43,000 | 鏈接的這個情況是怎麼樣 |
| 00:08:43,000 | 00:08:45,000 | 你說現在 |
| 00:08:45,000 | 00:08:47,000 | 在市面上就是有一種app |
| 00:08:47,000 | 00:08:49,000 | 它自己下載 |
| 00:08:49,000 | 00:08:51,000 | 然後因為你平常就是說 |
| 00:08:51,000 | 00:08:53,000 | 發票可能都有存在那個app裡面 |
| 00:08:53,000 | 00:08:55,000 | 那你在下載一個它的這個 |
| 00:08:55,000 | 00:08:57,000 | 使用有了一個程式它可以主動 |
| 00:08:57,000 | 00:08:59,000 | 它可以幫你掃出來就是說 |
| 00:08:59,000 | 00:09:01,000 | 那你到底買了哪些問題 |
| 00:09:01,000 | 00:09:03,000 | 有還可以直接秀出來 |
| 00:09:03,000 | 00:09:05,000 | 但是目前我們雖然有這個電子發票系統 |
| 00:09:05,000 | 00:09:07,000 | 但是 |
| 00:09:07,000 | 00:09:09,000 | 好像沒有這個功能 |
| 00:09:09,000 | 00:09:11,000 | 這個未來我們財政部這個 |
| 00:09:11,000 | 00:09:13,000 | 電子發票系統可不可以做像 |
| 00:09:13,000 | 00:09:15,000 | 類似這種功能就是說 |
| 00:09:15,000 | 00:09:17,000 | 你們當然是說廠商這部分 |
| 00:09:17,000 | 00:09:19,000 | 勾勒的出來說到底哪些廠商 |
| 00:09:19,000 | 00:09:21,000 | 有問題 |
| 00:09:21,000 | 00:09:23,000 | 其實買哪些這個 |
| 00:09:23,000 | 00:09:25,000 | 問題有或是說問題的商品 |
| 00:09:25,000 | 00:09:27,000 | 因為你只要這一個有買 |
| 00:09:27,000 | 00:09:29,000 | 有買就會有發票嘛 |
| 00:09:29,000 | 00:09:31,000 | 發票上面就有一個系統嘛 |
| 00:09:31,000 | 00:09:33,000 | 報告喔 |
| 00:09:33,000 | 00:09:35,000 | 我們的發票的一個系統 |
| 00:09:35,000 | 00:09:37,000 | 借接到衛福部的食品雲 |
| 00:09:37,000 | 00:09:39,000 | 我們是根據衛福部它所提供的 |
| 00:09:39,000 | 00:09:41,000 | 相關的廠商的 |
| 00:09:41,000 | 00:09:43,000 | 然後每個月會提供給你 |
| 00:09:43,000 | 00:09:45,000 | 我們就會每個月給它 |
| 00:09:45,000 | 00:09:47,000 | 或隨時它要新增什麼我們都會給它 |
| 00:09:47,000 | 00:09:49,000 | 那到食品雲裡面 |
| 00:09:49,000 | 00:09:51,000 | 其實還有其他機關的資料倒進來 |
| 00:09:51,000 | 00:09:53,000 | 它去做加值處理 |
| 00:09:53,000 | 00:09:55,000 | 發票裡面你是可以看到 |
| 00:09:55,000 | 00:09:57,000 | 以這個桶編來看 |
| 00:09:57,000 | 00:09:59,000 | 它是買家的時候 |
| 00:09:59,000 | 00:10:01,000 | 那上手是誰 |
| 00:10:01,000 | 00:10:03,000 | 它是賣家的時候下手是誰 |
| 00:10:03,000 | 00:10:05,000 | 那如何追溯 |
| 00:10:05,000 | 00:10:07,000 | 這個部分不是從發票單一就可以 |
| 00:10:07,000 | 00:10:09,000 | 譬如說以油來說 |
| 00:10:09,000 | 00:10:11,000 | 它也有批次不同 |
| 00:10:11,000 | 00:10:13,000 | 到底哪一些有超標哪一些沒有超標 |
| 00:10:13,000 | 00:10:15,000 | 所以這些資料會整到衛福部 |
| 00:10:15,000 | 00:10:17,000 | 那個食品雲就對了 |
| 00:10:17,000 | 00:10:19,000 | 我們有借接過去 |
| 00:10:19,000 | 00:10:21,000 | 讓他們可以做加值運用 |
| 00:10:21,000 | 00:10:23,000 | 那沒有啦就是說我們還要一個一個去查 |
| 00:10:23,000 | 00:10:25,000 | 我想衛福部這邊他們借接以後 |
| 00:10:25,000 | 00:10:27,000 | 會去做加值運用的事 |
| 00:10:27,000 | 00:10:29,000 | 這個再問你們 |
| 00:10:29,000 | 00:10:31,000 | 因為這個主院長自己都承認了 |
| 00:10:31,000 | 00:10:33,000 | 這個食品雲還有很多 |
| 00:10:33,000 | 00:10:35,000 | 精進的空間在 |
| 00:10:35,000 | 00:10:37,000 | 因為民間做的都比我們還快 |
| 00:10:37,000 | 00:10:39,000 | 好謝謝李棍哲委員 |
| 00:10:39,000 | 00:10:41,000 | 謝謝謝謝 |
| 00:10:41,000 | 00:10:43,000 | 下一位請林思敏委員質詢 |
| 00:10:51,000 | 00:10:53,000 | 好謝謝主席 |
| 00:10:53,000 | 00:10:55,000 | 主席請財政部莊部長 |