| IVOD_ID |
170539 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170539 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-16T10:38:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-16T10:46:29+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:02 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/c57864e9296d477515c18ef2a8e55f01769602a34423c74f6e900f186971803a9e84ac0ab64cdd6e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳冠廷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:38:27 - 10:46:29 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
(變更議程)立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請內政部部長、警政署署長、法務部次長就「115年11月28日地方公職人員選舉選務維安勤務工作規劃」進行專題報告，並備質詢。二、邀請中央選舉委員會主任委員、內政部部長、警政署署長、法務部次長、數位發展部、國家通訊傳播委員會就「115年11月28日地方公職人員選舉選務整備、選務中立、假訊息因應作為與公民投票選務辦理情形」進行專題報告，並備質詢。三、繼續審查委員羅智強等18人擬具「公民投票法第二十三條條文修正草案」案。四、繼續審查台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「公民投票法第二十一條及第四十三條條文修正草案」案。五、審查委員葉元之等19人擬具「公民投票法第二十三條條文修正草案」案。六、審查委員廖偉翔等16人擬具「公民投票法第二十三條條文修正草案」案。七、審查委員賴士葆等25人擬具「公民投票法第二十一條條文修正草案」案。） |
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我們下一位請鄭振前委員發言質詢鄭振前 鄭振前 鄭振前不在 下一位請陳冠廷委員發言質詢我們請主委 |
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陳委員好 現在針對不在籍投票我們簡單詢問一下現在中選會在評估是不是有可能在下一次的大選就會有不在籍投票的試用那你們的評估是這樣的做法合不合宜 |
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這要看我們立法院是否決定要正式立法在目前沒有任何立法的情況底下不在即投票不會實施不會實施那最新我們看這個在野黨是不是有提出相關的修法 |
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似乎一直都有但是我們立法院並沒有正式的通過任何有關不在籍投票的法令那你來就你們的行政層面來講假設不在籍投票第一次假設他通過了不管是通過公投的方式通過還是修法的方式通過那已經決定要實行不在籍投票那而且實行不在籍投票的狀況他是以公投跟大選的時候來實行的不在籍投票會有什麼樣的行政上面的困難 |
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那是一個天大的災難怎麼說九合一地方選舉所牽涉到的是要選出一萬一千多個我們的地方行政首長或者民意代表或村里長那我們在這個過程裡面有八千九百零六種選票那有一萬八千兩百二十七個投票所 |
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在這樣的可以說全世界最複雜的地方選舉裡面實施不在即投票勢必造成這個投開票上面的極大的一個混亂那可能會癱瘓整個選務系統 |
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謝謝 謝謝主委其實我擔心的它不僅僅是癱瘓而已而是癱瘓之後還是要開票開票之後就會有某些在野黨的人士來去質疑選舉不公那這個是特別是我就直接講特別是民眾黨最喜歡做這樣的事情他們會不斷地想要把這種各種的花招用在選舉上面然後質疑現行已經成熟的選舉體制台灣的成熟的選舉體制其實被各個國家他們都拿去參考 |
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因為我們是直接資本投票我們在即投票我們投票完之後隨即開票開票完之後大家都可以看到從驗票的人員或者是說現場來觀看的人員全部都可以知道直接把投票箱拆開讓大家看到就算是這個樣子 |
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民眾黨過去還是質疑說沒有啦那個選票不公啦這個還是民調比較準啦你怎麼可以民調我們贏啊怎麼可以看選票而已事實上就是有這樣子的人在質疑這樣的質疑如果在現行的狀況之下他們都在質疑的話你未來只要稍微有這種類似我們行政上面的困難的話甚至是在這個上次2018年2018年的時候還在開票的時候已經在開票的時候還有人在投票那一定會造成人民的不信任 |
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我就根本就不用再說韓國的狀況了韓國的舉行地方選舉的時候也是不再集投票然後產生第一個投票所他的選舉票數不足 |
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他一度還暫停你說這是選務的狀況一定到最後就把他拿去陰謀論這都過去都有存在的狀況了就連在在即投票直接投完票之後馬上開票所有人都在睜著眼看他們都可以在懷疑更何況是其他的方式那我們再來請教另外一個問題假設有人申請不在即投票請問他是要本人去辦理還是書面辦理即可 |
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因為目前還沒有正式立法你認為哪一個方式比較好就是說是本人要親自來去選務機關辦理說我要這個移轉投票去務政機關辦理我要移轉投票還是只要書面申請在線上申請就好如果有不在籍投票初期一定要本人才 |
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還是比較好的會比較妥當那萬一他們會說不是啊我們再套一個民眾黨的說法他們最喜歡講這種我們要便利我們要一化我們要線上申請就好了結果他的線上申請之後他發覺到說我到他本地他在在籍的地方去投票還發覺到說他被申請不在籍他的投票所不在他的本籍本戶籍地是在其他他的居住地這種狀況要怎麼防備我的意思是說 |
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韓國有這一次的狀況美國上次的總統大選一樣不管是郵寄的這個投票也好或者是這種不在籍投票不斷的都被另外一派反對派的支持派的都拿去來質疑他們選舉的正當性選舉正當性一旦被質疑 |
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就會導致我們民主的基石受到侵擾我們為什麼要對這個不再集投票會有這個非常的警惕的原因也在於此韓國是一個例子美國是一個例子各個其他國家包含電子投票很多其他的例子都不斷的出現民眾開始不信任整個制度為了不要讓民眾不信任我們應該要做的是要確保現行已經能夠被信任的選舉制度能夠繼續下去 |
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這才是我個人是比較希望是朝這個方向那如果退而求其次至少不能夠是在這一個在選舉這個待遇式的時候有類似這樣的狀況不然混淆的狀況會特別特別的嚴重我還是在強調不管是韓國的例子美國的例子 |
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都有這個之前的比較不好的狀況發生那我們如果累積成為各個國家都認為我們現在的選舉制度是值得來去參考的那我們就要把我們這個典範來做一個更好的維持讓每一個人都能夠尊重我們選舉的制度好 謝謝 |
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因為有一些委員跟本委會表示,還在其他委員會質詢,那我們就稍等一下再稍作休息一下 |
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主委我們再簡單另外一個好,我們繼續開會,請陳冠廷委員繼續發言沒關係,你要問就問主委可以嗎?主委主委沒關係,答應你的就你再繼續簡單簡單 |
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所以另外一個問題就是我上次比較擔心的就是這個就跟今天的這個公投等等就是混淆的部分就是說有人試圖來去混淆其他人的投票行為也就是說假借其他政黨然後來去算了沒關係我們今天這個我私下再問因為其他委員已經到了好 |
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那你自選好了嗎我自選完因為大家還沒到時候再選 |