| IVOD_ID |
170538 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170538 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-5-19,35,20-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟、外交及國防、財政三委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟、外交及國防、財政三委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-16T12:42:33+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-16T12:50:36+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:03 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/c57864e9296d4775ab57fa0c6e4273ab1ac734a26d834dc46e900f186971803a8406a17fcd3ca4bb5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蔡易餘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:42:33 - 12:50:36 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟、外交及國防、財政三委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：併案審查：
一、 行政院函請審議「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。
二、 本院委員林楚茵等17人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。
三、 本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「強化國防自主暨無人機產業發展條例草案」案。
四、 本院國民黨黨團擬具「國防自主無人載具科技發展及採購條例草案」案。(僅詢答)(以上各案如未接獲院會交付審查之議事處來文，則不予審查)） |
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我們等一下再宣布那個繼續開會的時間反正大家陳昌明委員之後休息好好 那接下來我們有請蔡議員委員 |
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謝謝主席那我們是不是先請經濟部次長經濟部和次長次長 |
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這個無人機那今天當然是在討論行政院院版所謂的這個特別條例那未來可能我們期待這個朝野應該要既然要支持整個無人機的產業那應該要用特別預算的方式來處理 |
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那事實上剛剛也已經講得很清楚在陳將軍的質詢事實上用特別預算就是不會排斥那我再舉一個事實上等一下我的質詢就是最好的一個例子因為我們現在嘉義縣大概他從民雄的航太基地那現在這個中科院區已經完工那目前 |
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就會即將要進駐那未來在這個民雄的航太園區西側的部分也即將要來動土在九月的時候東側的部分也會動土那西側已經完工那我想要請教次長的就是說我們在於鋪子太保這邊有一個亞創園區 |
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那這個雅創園區主要是在做國內無人機他們主要在做測試以及在做研發的一個基地那這樣這個雅創園區目前它的空間就是不足所以我們希望可以把大同技術學院的這個院區來做一個活化 |
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那未來讓亞創園區那整個跟一館二館那可以直接有更大的一個空間來做無人機的一個發展那我想要請教次長的就是說現在我們亞創園區二館的進度究竟是在哪裡他到底卡在哪裡 |
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跟委員報告我們已經把亞創二館其實也納入到同酬型計畫那目前整個計畫是報到這個院裡面然後目前在做這個審查當中那國發會他目前在做公共建設計畫的審查 |
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在做計畫的審查 亞創園區的二館因為我目前掌握的 亞創園區二館大概會再投入11.34億那他目前的計畫期程是115年到117年那這樣整案 現在到底是為什麼還在審查中 因為已經審查好久了跟現在的總預算有沒有關係 |
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跟今年度的總預算有沒有關係因為它是新興計畫那跟今年度的總預算也有關係新興計畫所以就卡住了嘛對不對結果今年度 今年現在已經七月了耶那我們雅創的這個二管 新興計畫就拖這麼久 |
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到現在卡關新興計畫沒有辦法所以就卡關所以我從這件事情就可以知道說我們現在說要發展無人機那我們這樣的一個亞創二館這麼重要的一個未來的研發基地測試基地 |
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結果就因為總預算到現在卡到七月然後卡關到現在這樣就由此可見嘛現在國民黨他們講的藍白他們現在說的說什麼要用本預算來逐年編列本預算逐年編列如果又像這樣我們的亞創二管總預算只要被卡住它就要延宕七個月甚至可能還要更久這樣就知道說你用本預算然後又卡本預算就根本就是虛晃一朝 |
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所以我們還是希望能夠用特別預算的方式來支持國防部來編列這個兩千一百億能夠讓我們國內的這個無人機的採購能夠讓廠商有一個穩定長遠的一個訂單讓廠商可以進行投資為了確保這個是穩定的國內支持的力道不會因為總預算被卡關 |
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然後就要延宕嘛事實上我們的雅創二管這件事已經拖到現在七月然後你們說因為新興預算現在沒有辦法被執行的這樣的一個狀況我們是真的很緊張的因為到現在都還沒有通過好不好 那我想要請教一下市長啦 那未來你們現在在審查你們即將要把二管你們要做怎樣的定位 |
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跟委員報告 其實我們希望能夠擴大提供研發的這個能量還有試製測試 試量產 還有飛行測試 國際驗證還有人賠方面的這些相關的功能那能夠讓整個嘉義地區的這個無人機的這個產業它的量能 還有它的這些功能 它能夠在整個亞川二館 |
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能夠完成之後啊配合我們國安部旁邊的這個民雄的這個基地啊能夠有一個整體的一個整個園區的一個規劃然後讓整個烏刃界產業能夠真正落地在這個嘉義地區好 處長 |
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所以亞創中心的定位可能就是說第一個是人才培育嘛第二個是在測試嘛測試可能有做整個無人機的性能的測試那其中還有一個很重要的是飛行的測試那如果飛行的測試你們預估是在哪裡來進行飛行測試 |
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小型的無人機在雅創中心雅創的基地就可以是不是雅創基地附近會有一些小型的這種測試場那如果是中大型的無人機呢我們交通部目前大概也有二十幾處的飛行測試的場地所以我們會來協助就是說在適合的場域來做測試 |
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那之前我們有在說嘛,是不是可以就近就在水上機場來這邊來做測試場域是,有機會,有機會那是不是這要再跟國防部溝通一下是,跟交通部,可能還有跟國防部都有所以是交通部跟國防部溝通對,可能會一起大家來協助這個業界因為部長也住在這裡嘛,是不是部長可以幫我們了解一下 |
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這未來的整個無人機的一個的一個試飛啦 無人機的一個試飛大概水上的第四聯隊可能要扮演的這樣的一個空間可以跟交通部然後來溝通 讓水上機場可以變成中大型的無人機的一個試飛場域就要協調一下那個空域的使用的時間然後相關的一些飛岸的這個因素的考量 |
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那這個大家都有在協調當中好OK那就大家再了解一下我想整個無人機的產業的推動從測試人才培育到一些空域的一個是非廠這個都完整的措施都必須要把它現在都要把它佈置好那等這個特別條例特別預算再通過後這樣對我們國內的無人機產業才是大大的一個挹注好不好 |
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好 謝謝好 謝謝蔡議員我們上午改質詢到 |