| IVOD_ID |
170410 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170410 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
21 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-09T11:32:18+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-09T11:45:41+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:23 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/819c86070d9120f7005a947ebf5b9441c6cfcebe9e655170daab8b1e00aaf1179efbac3bee55a0345ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅明才 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:32:18 - 11:45:41 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第21次全體委員會議（事由：邀請中央銀行楊總裁金龍就「股市、通膨、匯率與房市多重風險中，中央銀行中長期因應策略與政策工具」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【7月8日及9日兩天一次會】） |
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主席 各位初列席 觀音大好主席 可否請業務局的謝鳳英 謝局長謝局長你好那業務局啊大概平常你中管什麼樣的範圍那最近有什麼要注意的 |
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比較廣泛像公關市場操作、準備金調整、支付系統的一個運作還有選擇性信用管制大概的涉及到新牌幣的央行的業務都在業務局裡面所以選擇性的信用管制大概你們面對的就是大概是38家的本土銀行現在國外的銀行跟你們業務往來多不多 |
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我們有外商銀行 有啊 我們國外銀行我們每家的銀行都有做跨國的就是有做外匯的業務嘛當然就會跟國外有往來是 我們台股的市值從過去大概十幾名成長到現在台股的市值大概是全世界排名第四或第五可是我們相對的來看台灣的外匯的交易情況 |
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好像沒有因為股市的蓬勃發展而造成台幣對美元或者是日元等等這些外匯業務的成長這兩者之間為什麼會差那麼多就好比過去台股的市值只有大概6兆多那突然間成長到現在160兆是不是央行應該與時俱進來做一些若干的調整 |
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那很多人外商都在講說台幣根本也不方便這沒有人要委員你講這一句話的時候我要把事實的跟委員報告事實上我們的外匯的外資的進出非常龐大非常龐大所以非常龐大但是非常龐大的時候在我們管理上它是我們的挑戰 |
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沒有啊 你即便再龐大你面對的高額的企業或者是這個操盤或者基金其實加一加就是那一百家啊不對 我跟委員報告事實上啊 |
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外資他的進出的時候呢他的單方向他是非常單方向他不是進出進出進出喔如果說他的進出進出如果互相offset的話呢那很好那就平衡但是呢他不是他要出去的時候呢他非常巨額的單邊的出去他要進來的時候呢單邊的巨額的進來而且呢非常的集中那你怕不怕那當然啊 |
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既然這個量那麼大你是不是會想什麼方法讓他在市場自然的Hedge掉沒有 因為我跟委員報告啊外商的操作是非常靈活的他不會像你就想像的就說我要替台灣的外匯市場的穩定我要來替他著想所以呢我要Hedge或是什麼樣的我們也允許他會Hedge啊 |
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但是他黑集的金額不大 |
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那你覺得美國華爾街的市場跟台灣差在哪裡那當然美元的市場美元的市場是全球的市場啊美元是一個大的那個它是Z1啊台灣是small open是小的開放的經濟體啊那你台灣的市場沒辦法跟美國的市場來比較啊可是我們的股市市值已經到全世界第四大了啊 |
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有些時候啊所以我跟委員報告它的推升有一大部分有一部分很大一部分就是我們的外資推上去的另外一部分呢外面有個聲音就是說央行遲遲不改變是不是因為央行的理監室裡面有一些比較特殊性的立場 |
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沒有吧他有什麼特殊立場我可以在這裡鄭重的跟委員報告是沒有我們的理事沒有就有一些是特別的那個立場絕對沒有你的理事有一些是來自民間機構啊有的甚至以前還有銀行啊 |
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我們銀行的代表兩位哪兩位一個是勇鋒一個是趙鋒勇鋒就是陳董趙鋒就是董瑞兵 |
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以前理事是不是有什麼國泰啊還是哪一家沒有沒有沒有現在都沒有以前呢那是很久以前啊 |
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但是後來他也就離開了那這些理事的立場會不會跟國際化的立場我跟委員報告如果說兩席那十幾席裡面兩席如果說他有特殊的立場的話呢他也沒辦法就是說完全來bominate來來來總裁會請問現在一般銀行的心態他是希望利率漲還是希望利率跌 |
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沒有啊這個利率的話呢我們的理事你看看我們的理事第一個他也是跟那個通膨來掛鍋的啊如果通膨高的話那當然就是利率要提高啊如果通膨低的時候呢利率就要往下調啊民間的銀行啊在他的利益考量他覺得利率要高還是低比較好 |
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這個我們的理事他不會純粹就他的立場來發言他會用他的專業來發言好那這樣子啦因為時間關係所以總裁啊央行的這些交易制度你們會不會嘗試讓他更開放 |
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我們本來就很開放啊沒有啊 你跟新加坡比沒有 因為新加坡他是金融中心但是雖然他是金融中心但是我跟委員報告一下他也是監控得很嚴謹的監控沒關係啊 我也是要監控啊但是他也資金進出也非常自由啊 |
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新加坡對於外資的賄賂有沒有限制 |
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我們沒有限制啊我們只有我們的自然人而已啊我們自己國人啊請問那個總裁自然人一個人個人要匯出去美金要匯出去國外一年是多少我們是一千萬啊一千萬是美金嘛對啊好那有多少人企業要匯出去一億啊一億但是呢我跟委員報告 |
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我們自然人雖然我們有做這樣的一個限制就是說這一年一千萬但是如果說他是透過銀行體系出去的他沒有他透過銀行體系出去進來的都沒有限制 |
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那為什麼我們的限制會跟新加坡差那麼多沒有啊他也是可以就是說進出我們的那個什麼你透過那個銀行體系的話你也可以進出自由啊那你剛剛講的自然人會出一千萬美金那是他個人要不要調高啊 |
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要不要調高啊我們本來是五千萬五百萬現在把它調高到一千萬最近才調高的最近調高對啊夠不夠啊我來請教啦不是以前才六兆的市值一千萬的話是相當於多少錢三億多啊三億多 |
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但是呢還有一個前提如果說他3億多他要進出進出好你在這個1000萬裡面你不必要讓我們知道但是你如果超過的話讓我們知道你都可以進出總裁你有沒有統計一下就是說台灣這一次啊因為股市大漲喔大概喔超過身上的財富啊超過1億以上你知道有多少人 |
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我是不曉得啦 不曉得不過我跟委員報告啦我跟他就是在講就是說他如果經過銀行體系的話他都沒有受到限制他只是說他個人的名利要出去的時候呢他是受到限制但是呢你如果超過這個金額的時候呢你讓我知道 我都不會只是讓我知道而已 |
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讓我知道而已啊那你都可以進出自由啊總裁對我知道那現在一個比較更自由經濟的時代來臨了齁那全世界包括阿布達比啊他們對於資金的進出啊採取的是一個很開放的一個制度啊所以吸引了全世界的資金進去阿布達比最近很多國家都反而是說得更緊 |
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哪一個國家?像印度啦不要跟印度比啦好啦那沒錯啦但是我們都是已經很開放啦不要啦總裁你要跟美國或是跟新加坡比因為我們跟新加坡也沒有差多少啊你心裡不要一直想印度啦 |
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我不是說只有它 印尼也是啊不要啦 你就不要想那個你想比較進步一點的地方比如說美國 日本最後一個問題因為大陸在看現在一美元兌換日幣兌換多少大概是 |
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162162左右啦這個是不是對國人來說甜蜜點出現很多的民眾他說這日幣好便宜喔我是不是應該多換一點日幣因為台灣都很喜歡去日本去旅遊去年大概說1000萬人次反正那麼便宜趁機減便宜反正放著總有一天會用得到請問 |
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那個總裁現在是不是換日幣的一個甜蜜點所以講到雖然我不是直接回答你的問題所以呢我稍微偏一下所以呢你看看我們的民眾他要買日幣都很自由啊 |
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對不對 你說填秘密 填秘密的話他要結構多少 他都可以結構的啊所以你就說自由 那這個是相當自由啊所以說總裁 現在這個是一個很好的點 去換日幣嗎 |
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對每一個人呢 他的一個benchmark他的一個判斷的標準是不大一樣的對很多人 據我了解對很多人來講呢 他認為就是說現在是多元日幣也是一個好的價格所以他就去買了日幣也就是說在非常自由的情況之下呢他要買多少 他都可以買多少好 那總裁請問 那你的外匯存底裡面現在日幣的持有比例是多少我們持有的比例不高 |
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1點多 3點多以前不高有沒有3%應該應該我現在我不曉得應該很低啦很低啦那知道不用啦就是說大家私下我去查一查我告訴你不是你現在外匯存底現在利幣那麼低你會考量 |
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提高日幣作為我們的外匯儲備我們有啊我們有啊只是說不高而已啊會不會增加會不會考慮增加增加不增加我們就看我們隨時調整啊今天會不會調整調整的時候有些時候是調高有些時候調低你都講都沒有講出來謝謝我們結束羅明財委員會 |