| IVOD_ID |
170410 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170410 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
21 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-09T11:32:18+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-09T11:45:41+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:23 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/819c86070d9120f7005a947ebf5b9441c6cfcebe9e655170daab8b1e00aaf1179efbac3bee55a0345ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅明才 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:32:18 - 11:45:41 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第21次全體委員會議（事由：邀請中央銀行楊總裁金龍就「股市、通膨、匯率與房市多重風險中，中央銀行中長期因應策略與政策工具」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【7月8日及9日兩天一次會】） |
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主席 各位初列席 觀音大好主席 可否請業務局的謝鳳英 謝局長謝局長你好那業務局啊大概平常你中管什麼樣的範圍那最近有什麼要注意的 |
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比較廣泛像公關市場操作、準備金調整、支付系統的一個運作還有選擇性信用管制大概的涉及到新牌幣的央行的業務都在業務局裡面所以選擇性的信用管制大概你們面對的就是大概是38家的本土銀行現在國外的銀行跟你們業務往來多不多 |
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我們有外商銀行 有啊 我們國外銀行我們每家的銀行都有做跨國的就是有做外匯的業務嘛當然就會跟國外有往來是 我們台股的市值從過去大概十幾名成長到現在台股的市值大概是全世界排名第四或第五可是我們相對的來看台灣的外匯的交易情況 |
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好像沒有因為股市的蓬勃發展而造成台幣對美元或者是日元等等這些外匯業務的成長這兩者之間為什麼會差那麼多就好比過去台股的市值只有大概6兆多那突然間成長到現在160兆是不是央行應該與時俱進來做一些若干的調整 |
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那很多人外商都在講說台幣根本也不方便這沒有人要委員你講這一句話的時候我要把事實的跟委員報告事實上我們的外匯的外資的進出非常龐大非常龐大所以非常龐大但是非常龐大的時候在我們管理上它是我們的挑戰 |
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沒有啊 你即便再龐大你面對的高額的企業或者是這個操盤或者基金其實加一加就是那一百家啊不對 我跟委員報告事實上啊 |
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外資他的進出的時候呢他的單方向他是非常單方向他不是進出進出進出喔如果說他的進出進出如果互相offset的話呢那很好那就平衡但是呢他不是他要出去的時候呢他非常巨額的單邊的出去他要進來的時候呢單邊的巨額的進來而且呢非常的集中那你怕不怕那當然啊 |
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既然這個量那麼大你是不是會想什麼方法讓他在市場自然的Hedge掉沒有 因為我跟委員報告啊外商的操作是非常靈活的他不會像你就想像的就說我要替台灣的外匯市場的穩定我要來替他著想所以呢我要Hedge或是什麼樣的我們也允許他會Hedge啊 |
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但是他黑集的金額不大 |
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那你覺得美國華爾街的市場跟台灣差在哪裡那當然美元的市場美元的市場是全球的市場啊美元是一個大的那個它是Z1啊台灣是small open是小的開放的經濟體啊那你台灣的市場沒辦法跟美國的市場來比較啊可是我們的股市市值已經到全世界第四大了啊 |
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有些時候啊所以我跟委員報告它的推升有一大部分有一部分很大一部分就是我們的外資推上去的另外一部分呢外面有個聲音就是說央行遲遲不改變是不是因為央行的理監室裡面有一些比較特殊性的立場 |
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沒有吧他有什麼特殊立場我可以在這裡鄭重的跟委員報告是沒有我們的理事沒有就有一些是特別的那個立場絕對沒有你的理事有一些是來自民間機構啊有的甚至以前還有銀行啊 |
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我們銀行的代表兩位哪兩位一個是勇鋒一個是趙鋒勇鋒就是陳董趙鋒就是董瑞兵 |
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以前理事是不是有什麼國泰啊還是哪一家沒有沒有沒有現在都沒有以前呢那是很久以前啊 |
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但是後來他也就離開了那這些理事的立場會不會跟國際化的立場我跟委員報告如果說兩席那十幾席裡面兩席如果說他有特殊的立場的話呢他也沒辦法就是說完全來bominate來來來總裁會請問現在一般銀行的心態他是希望利率漲還是希望利率跌 |
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沒有啊這個利率的話呢我們的理事你看看我們的理事第一個他也是跟那個通膨來掛鍋的啊如果通膨高的話那當然就是利率要提高啊如果通膨低的時候呢利率就要往下調啊民間的銀行啊在他的利益考量他覺得利率要高還是低比較好 |
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這個我們的理事他不會純粹就他的立場來發言他會用他的專業來發言好那這樣子啦因為時間關係所以總裁啊央行的這些交易制度你們會不會嘗試讓他更開放 |
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我們本來就很開放啊沒有啊 你跟新加坡比沒有 因為新加坡他是金融中心但是雖然他是金融中心但是我跟委員報告一下他也是監控得很嚴謹的監控沒關係啊 我也是要監控啊但是他也資金進出也非常自由啊 |
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新加坡對於外資的賄賂有沒有限制 |
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我們沒有限制啊我們只有我們的自然人而已啊我們自己國人啊請問那個總裁自然人一個人個人要匯出去美金要匯出去國外一年是多少我們是一千萬啊一千萬是美金嘛對啊好那有多少人企業要匯出去一億啊一億但是呢我跟委員報告 |
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我們自然人雖然我們有做這樣的一個限制就是說這一年一千萬但是如果說他是透過銀行體系出去的他沒有他透過銀行體系出去進來的都沒有限制 |
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那為什麼我們的限制會跟新加坡差那麼多沒有啊他也是可以就是說進出我們的那個什麼你透過那個銀行體系的話你也可以進出自由啊那你剛剛講的自然人會出一千萬美金那是他個人要不要調高啊 |
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要不要調高啊我們本來是五千萬五百萬現在把它調高到一千萬最近才調高的最近調高對啊夠不夠啊我來請教啦不是以前才六兆的市值一千萬的話是相當於多少錢三億多啊三億多 |
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但是呢還有一個前提如果說他3億多他要進出進出好你在這個1000萬裡面你不必要讓我們知道但是你如果超過的話讓我們知道你都可以進出總裁你有沒有統計一下就是說台灣這一次啊因為股市大漲喔大概喔超過身上的財富啊超過1億以上你知道有多少人 |
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我是不曉得啦 不曉得不過我跟委員報告啦我跟他就是在講就是說他如果經過銀行體系的話他都沒有受到限制他只是說他個人的名利要出去的時候呢他是受到限制但是呢你如果超過這個金額的時候呢你讓我知道 我都不會只是讓我知道而已 |
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讓我知道而已啊那你都可以進出自由啊總裁對我知道那現在一個比較更自由經濟的時代來臨了齁那全世界包括阿布達比啊他們對於資金的進出啊採取的是一個很開放的一個制度啊所以吸引了全世界的資金進去阿布達比最近很多國家都反而是說得更緊 |
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哪一個國家?像印度啦不要跟印度比啦好啦那沒錯啦但是我們都是已經很開放啦不要啦總裁你要跟美國或是跟新加坡比因為我們跟新加坡也沒有差多少啊你心裡不要一直想印度啦 |
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我不是說只有它 印尼也是啊不要啦 你就不要想那個你想比較進步一點的地方比如說美國 日本最後一個問題因為大陸在看現在一美元兌換日幣兌換多少大概是 |
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162162左右啦這個是不是對國人來說甜蜜點出現很多的民眾他說這日幣好便宜喔我是不是應該多換一點日幣因為台灣都很喜歡去日本去旅遊去年大概說1000萬人次反正那麼便宜趁機減便宜反正放著總有一天會用得到請問 |
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那個總裁現在是不是換日幣的一個甜蜜點所以講到雖然我不是直接回答你的問題所以呢我稍微偏一下所以呢你看看我們的民眾他要買日幣都很自由啊 |
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對不對 你說填秘密 填秘密的話他要結構多少 他都可以結構的啊所以你就說自由 那這個是相當自由啊所以說總裁 現在這個是一個很好的點 去換日幣嗎 |
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對每一個人呢 他的一個benchmark他的一個判斷的標準是不大一樣的對很多人 據我了解對很多人來講呢 他認為就是說現在是多元日幣也是一個好的價格所以他就去買了日幣也就是說在非常自由的情況之下呢他要買多少 他都可以買多少好 那總裁請問 那你的外匯存底裡面現在日幣的持有比例是多少我們持有的比例不高 |
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1點多 3點多以前不高有沒有3%應該應該我現在我不曉得應該很低啦很低啦那知道不用啦就是說大家私下我去查一查我告訴你不是你現在外匯存底現在利幣那麼低你會考量 |
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提高日幣作為我們的外匯儲備我們有啊我們有啊只是說不高而已啊會不會增加會不會考慮增加增加不增加我們就看我們隨時調整啊今天會不會調整調整的時候有些時候是調高有些時候調低你都講都沒有講出來謝謝我們結束羅明財委員會 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-07-09T11:32:20.076000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:32:22.098000+08:00 |
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主席、各位委員、出列席朋友，大家好。 |
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0.571 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-07-09T11:32:22.558000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:32:25.541000+08:00 |
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主席，請業務局的謝鳳瑛局長。 |
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0.75 |
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主席 |
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2026-07-09T11:32:25.881000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:32:25.901000+08:00 |
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請謝局長。 |
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0.75 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-07-09T11:32:25.901000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:32:26.121000+08:00 |
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謝局長你好。 |
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1 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-07-09T11:32:27.142000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:32:30.765000+08:00 |
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業務局平常大概綜管什麼樣的範圍，最近有什麼要注意的？ |
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0.875 |
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謝局長鳳瑛 |
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2026-07-09T11:32:50.631000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:33:03.101000+08:00 |
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業務局的事務比較廣泛，像公開市場操作、準備金調整、支付系統的運作，還有選擇性金融信用管制，央行大概涉及到新臺幣的業務都在業務局裡面。 |
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0.8 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-07-09T11:33:04.903000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:33:15.472000+08:00 |
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選擇性的信用管制，你們面對的大概是38家本土銀行，現在國外銀行跟你們的業務往來多不多？ |
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0.974 |
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謝局長鳳瑛 |
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2026-07-09T11:33:16.786000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:33:26.993000+08:00 |
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有，我們有外商銀行，每家銀行都有做外匯業務，當然就會跟國外有往來。 |
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0.966 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-07-09T11:33:27.633000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:34:02.651000+08:00 |
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我們臺股的市值從過去十幾名成長到現在，大概是全世界排名第四或第五，可是相對來看，臺灣的外匯交易情況好像沒有因為股市蓬勃發展，造成臺幣兌美元或者是日圓等等這些外匯業務成長，這兩者之間為什麼會差那麼多？ |
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0.978 |
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羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-07-09T11:34:03.372000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-07-09T11:34:15.976000+08:00 |
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就好比過去臺股的市值大概只有六兆多，現在突然成長到160兆，央行是不是應該與時俱進做一些若干的調整？ |
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0.841 |
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羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-07-09T11:34:16.696000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-07-09T11:34:20.679000+08:00 |
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很多外商都在說臺幣根本不方便，沒有人要…… |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
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2026-07-09T11:34:22.179000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:34:27.683000+08:00 |
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委員，你講這一句話的時候，我要把事實跟委員報告。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
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2026-07-09T11:34:27.783000+08:00 |
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事實上，我們外匯的外資進出非常龐大，非常龐大的時候，在管理上會是我們的挑戰。 |
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0.971 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-07-09T11:34:46.905000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:34:50.906000+08:00 |
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沒有，即便再龐大，面對高額的企業，或者是操盤，或者是基金，其實加一加，就是那100家。 |
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0.97 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
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2026-07-09T11:34:50.946000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:35:15.382000+08:00 |
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不對，我跟委員報告，事實上，外資進出的時候是非常單方向的，它不是進出、進出、進出，如果它進出、進出有互相offset的話，那很好，那就平衡！ |
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0.932 |
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楊總裁金龍 |
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2026-07-09T11:35:16.102000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:35:27.132000+08:00 |
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但是它不是，它要出去的時候是非常巨額的、單邊的出去，它要進來的時候，是單邊的、巨額的進來，而且非常的集中。 |
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0.891 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-07-09T11:35:27.692000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:35:28.173000+08:00 |
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那你怕不怕？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-07-09T11:35:28.193000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:35:28.293000+08:00 |
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那當然，這是我們的挑戰。 |
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0.3 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-07-09T11:35:29.988000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-07-09T11:35:31.709000+08:00 |
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既然這個量那麼大，你是不是要想什麼方法，讓它在市場自然的hedge掉？ |
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0.906 |
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楊總裁金龍 |
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2026-07-09T11:35:31.829000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:36:01.609000+08:00 |
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沒有，我跟委員報告，外商的操作是非常靈活的，不會像你想像的要替臺灣外匯市場的穩定著想，所以要hedge或是什麼樣，我們也允許它hedge，但是它hedge的金額不大。 |
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0.882 |
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羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-07-09T11:36:02.690000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-07-09T11:36:09.391000+08:00 |
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那你覺得美國華爾街的市場跟臺灣的市場差在哪裡？ |
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0.864 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
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2026-07-09T11:36:12.952000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:36:28.875000+08:00 |
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美元的市場是全球的市場，美元是一個大的，它是G1，臺灣是small open，是小的、開放的經濟體，臺灣的市場沒辦法跟美國的市場比較。 |
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0.983 |
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羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-07-09T11:36:29.235000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-07-09T11:36:31.696000+08:00 |
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可是我們股市的市值已經到全世界第四大了。 |
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0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
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2026-07-09T11:36:35.197000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:36:45.661000+08:00 |
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我跟委員報告，它的推升有很大一部分就是我們的外資推上去，另外一部分…… |
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1 |
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羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-07-09T11:36:46.241000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:36:59.767000+08:00 |
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外面有一個聲音說央行遲遲不改變，是不是因為央行的理監事裡面有一些比較特殊性的立場？ |
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0.949 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-07-09T11:37:01.007000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:37:01.528000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
沒有吧！ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-07-09T11:37:02.829000+08:00 |
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2026-07-09T11:37:04.471000+08:00 |
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會有什麼特殊立場？ |
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0.875 |
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楊總裁金龍 |
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2026-07-09T11:37:04.471000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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2026-07-09T11:37:09.156000+08:00 |
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我可以在這裡鄭重地跟委員報告，沒有！ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-07-09T11:37:09.497000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-07-09T11:37:14.442000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
我們的理事沒有特別的立場，絕對沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-07-09T11:37:14.603000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-07-09T11:37:19.308000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
有，你的理事有一些是來自民間機構，甚至以前還有銀行。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-07-09T11:37:20.449000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-07-09T11:37:20.669000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
我們銀行的代表有兩位。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-07-09T11:37:20.789000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-07-09T11:37:20.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
哪兩位？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-07-09T11:37:20.829000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-07-09T11:37:21.190000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
一個是永豐，一個是兆豐。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-07-09T11:37:21.370000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-07-09T11:37:21.410000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
永豐就是陳董嘛？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-07-09T11:37:21.410000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-07-09T11:37:29.028667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
兆豐呢？張董？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-07-09T11:37:29.028667+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-07-09T11:37:36.647333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
董瑞斌。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-07-09T11:37:36.647333+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-07-09T11:37:44.266000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
就是兩位而已，就只有兩位而已…… |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.154 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-07-09T11:37:44.266000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-07-09T11:37:48.128000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
以前的理事是不是有國泰還是哪一家？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-07-09T11:37:48.728000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-07-09T11:37:49.248000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
沒有，現在都沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-07-09T11:37:49.408000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-07-09T11:37:50.268000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
以前呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-07-09T11:37:50.428000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-07-09T11:38:06.656000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
那是很久以前，後來他也就離開啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-07-09T11:38:06.956000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-07-09T11:38:12.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
這些理事的立場會不會跟股票國際化的立場有所…… |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.81 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-07-09T11:38:12.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-07-09T11:38:26.940000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
不會，我跟委員報告，如果十幾席裡面有兩席有特殊立場，也沒辦法完全dominate。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.892 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-07-09T11:38:27.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-07-09T11:38:31.601000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
請問總裁，現在一般銀行的心態是希望利率漲，還是希望利率跌？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-07-09T11:38:33.180000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-07-09T11:38:50.790000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
沒有，利率的話，你看看我們的理事，第一個，它也是跟通膨掛鉤，如果通膨高的話，當然利率要提高；如果通膨低的時候，利率就要往下調。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-07-09T11:38:51.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-07-09T11:38:56.673000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
對於民間的銀行，在利益考量下會覺得利率要高還是低比較好？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-07-09T11:38:58.554000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-07-09T11:38:59.855000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
我們的理事不會純粹就他的立場發言，他會用他的專業發言。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-07-09T11:38:59.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-07-09T11:39:02.138000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
好，因為時間關係，總裁，關於央行的這些交易制度，你們會不會嘗試讓它更開放？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.906 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-07-09T11:39:14.890000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-07-09T11:39:16.170000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
我們本來就很開放啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-07-09T11:39:16.670000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-07-09T11:39:18.211000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
沒有，你跟新加坡比，還有跟美國比…… |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-07-09T11:39:19.191000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-07-09T11:39:32.074000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
沒有，因為新加坡是金融中心，雖然是金融中心，我跟委員報告一下，他們也是監控得很嚴謹。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.973 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-07-09T11:39:32.754000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-07-09T11:39:33.014000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
監控沒關係，但是你就是要…… |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.455 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-07-09T11:39:33.114000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-07-09T11:39:35.555000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
我也是要監控，但是他們的資金進出也非常自由。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-07-09T11:39:41.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-07-09T11:39:44.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
新加坡對於外資匯入有沒有限制？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-07-09T11:39:44.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-07-09T11:39:48.354000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
自然人跟企業有沒有差別？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-07-09T11:39:48.354000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-07-09T11:39:49.314000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
我們沒有限制。有啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-07-09T11:39:50.295000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-07-09T11:39:54.818000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
我們只有自然人而已，是我們自己國人。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-07-09T11:39:56.359000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:03.263000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
請問總裁，一個自然人要匯美金去國外，一年是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:03.563000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:04.224000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
我們是1,000萬。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:05.244000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:06.105000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
1,000萬是美金嘛。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:06.285000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:08.046000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
對，有多少人…… |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:08.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:09.667000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
好，企業要匯出去……1億。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:09.667000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:11.308000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
好，新加坡…… |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:11.308000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:29.232000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
但是我跟委員報告，針對自然人雖然我們有一年1,000萬的限制，但是如果他是透過銀行體系匯出去、匯進來的都沒有限制。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.837 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:30.297000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:32.940000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
為什麼我們的限制會跟新加坡差那麼多？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:33.220000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:42.449000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
沒有，透過銀行體系的話，我們的自然人也可以自由進出啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:43.310000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:45.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
你剛剛講說自然人匯出的限制是1,000萬美金。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.611 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:46.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:47.413000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
那是他個人…… |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:47.494000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:48.174000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
要不要調高？ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:50.196000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:54.578000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
我們本來是500萬，現在把它調高到1,000萬，是最近才調高的。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:54.758000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:55.078000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
最近才調高？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:55.238000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:55.258000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
夠不夠啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:55.258000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:56.258000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
因為股市以前市值才6兆。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:55.358000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:57.219000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
我請教，1,000萬相當多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:57.339000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-07-09T11:40:57.579000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
三億多。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-07-09T11:40:57.719000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-07-09T11:41:18.955000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
對，三億多，但是還有一個前提，如果是三億多的進出，在1,000萬裡面他不必讓我們知道，但如果超過的話，讓我們知道，也都還是可以進出。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-07-09T11:41:19.175000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-07-09T11:41:32.327000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
總裁，你有沒有統計一下，臺灣這次因為股市大漲，身上的財富超過1億以上的，你知道有多少人嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.949 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-07-09T11:41:34.001000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-07-09T11:42:02.575000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
我不曉得，不過我跟委員報告，我剛才就是說如果是經過銀行體系的話，都不會受到限制，只是以他個人的名義要匯出去的時候，他是受到限制的，但是如果超過這個金額，他讓我們知道，我們都不會限制，只是要讓我們知道而已，他都還是可以進出自由。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.814 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-07-09T11:42:03.176000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-07-09T11:42:03.716000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
對，總裁，我知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-07-09T11:42:05.097000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-07-09T11:42:21.912000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
現在自由經濟的時代來臨了，全世界，包括阿布達比，他們對於資金的進出採取的是一個很開放的制度，所以吸引了全世界的資金進去阿布達比。 |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-07-09T11:42:22.092000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-07-09T11:42:24.033000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
我跟委員報告，最近很多國家反而是縮得更緊。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.632 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-07-09T11:42:26.513000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-07-09T11:42:27.053000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
哪個國家？ |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-07-09T11:42:27.734000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-07-09T11:42:28.174000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
像印度。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-07-09T11:42:29.795000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-07-09T11:42:31.957000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
不要跟印度比啦！好啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-07-09T11:42:32.297000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-07-09T11:42:34.819000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
沒錯啦，但是我們已經很開放了。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-07-09T11:42:34.959000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-07-09T11:42:41.264000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
不要啦，總裁，你要跟美國或是跟新加坡比，因為人往高處爬，水往低處流。 |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.655 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-07-09T11:42:41.264000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-07-09T11:42:44.666000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
我們跟新加坡也沒有差多少。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-07-09T11:42:46.548000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-07-09T11:42:48.149000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
你心裡不要一直想印度啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-07-09T11:42:49.961000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-07-09T11:42:52.162000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
不，我不是說只有它，印尼也是啊。 |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-07-09T11:42:52.822000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-07-09T11:42:53.182000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
不要啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-07-09T11:42:53.322000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-07-09T11:42:58.503000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
你不要想那些，你要想比較進步的地方，比如說美國、日本。好啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.84 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-07-09T11:42:58.503000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-07-09T11:42:59.503000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
沒錯，但是我…… |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-07-09T11:42:58.623000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-07-09T11:43:00.763000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
最後一個問題，因為大家都在看，現在1美元兌換日幣是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-07-09T11:43:00.883000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-07-09T11:43:16.590000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
大概是……162。162左右。 |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-07-09T11:43:17.470000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-07-09T11:43:23.952000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
這個對國人來說，是不是甜蜜點出現了？ |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-07-09T11:43:23.952000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-07-09T11:43:26.413000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
差不多啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
羅委員明才：很多的民眾說 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-07-09T11:43:26.413000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-07-09T11:43:30.374000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
「現在日幣好便宜，我是不是應該多換一點日幣？ |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
羅委員明才：很多的民眾說 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-07-09T11:43:30.374000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-07-09T11:43:42.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
」因為臺灣人都很喜歡去日本旅遊，去年大概去了1,000萬人次，既然那麼便宜，就趁機撿便宜，反正放著總有一天用得到。 |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0.83 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
羅委員明才：很多的民眾說 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-07-09T11:43:42.477000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-07-09T11:43:47.893000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
請問總裁，現在是不是換日幣的甜蜜點？ |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-07-09T11:43:49.055000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-07-09T11:43:51.338000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
我不是用直接的方式回答你的問題…… |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-07-09T11:43:51.338000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-07-09T11:43:52.920000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
你就建議，沒有關係。 |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-07-09T11:43:52.920000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-07-09T11:43:55.023000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
我稍微偏一點說。 |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-07-09T11:43:56.105000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-07-09T11:44:03.707000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
你看我們的民眾要買日幣都很自由，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-07-09T11:44:03.707000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-07-09T11:44:11.575000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
你說到甜蜜點，在甜蜜點他要結購多少都是可以的。 |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0.524 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-07-09T11:44:11.575000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-07-09T11:44:12.575000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
所以總裁…… |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-07-09T11:44:12.396000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-07-09T11:44:15.439000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
所以你說自由，這個是相當自由的，不是嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0.765 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-07-09T11:44:17+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-07-09T11:44:22.806000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
對，所以現在是換日幣的一個很好的點嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
0.706 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-07-09T11:44:25.879000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2026-07-09T11:44:32.004000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
每個人的benchmark、判斷標準是不大一樣的。 |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-07-09T11:44:32.004000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-07-09T11:44:33.485000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
那你的判斷呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-07-09T11:44:33.485000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-07-09T11:44:46.015000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
據我了解，對很多人來講，現在兌換日幣是一個好的價格，所以他就去買了日幣，也就是說在非常自由的情況之下，他要買多少就可以買多少。 |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-07-09T11:44:46.455000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-07-09T11:44:51.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
好，請問總裁，我們的外匯存底現在日幣的持有比例是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-07-09T11:44:51.459000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-07-09T11:44:52.560000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
我們持有的比例不高。 |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-07-09T11:44:54.658000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-07-09T11:44:54.658000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
百分之一點多？ |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-07-09T11:44:54.979000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-07-09T11:44:55.599000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
以前是百分之三點多。不高。 |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
0.364 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-07-09T11:44:56.239000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-07-09T11:45:00.581000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
有沒有3%？ |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-07-09T11:45:00.881000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-07-09T11:45:02.302000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
現在我不曉得，應該很低。 |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-07-09T11:45:03.582000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2026-07-09T11:45:03.702000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
他知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-07-09T11:45:04.023000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2026-07-09T11:45:04.283000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
不用啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-07-09T11:45:06.724000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2026-07-09T11:45:08.304000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
我私下去查一查再告訴你。 |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2026-07-09T11:45:09.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2026-07-09T11:45:17.189000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
不是，現在日幣那麼低，你會不會考量提高日幣在我們外匯儲備的比例？ |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
0.759 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2026-07-09T11:45:17.189000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2026-07-09T11:45:20.871000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
我們有，只是不高而已。 |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
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會不會考慮增加？ |
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楊總裁金龍 |
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增加或不增加我們會隨時調整。 |
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羅委員明才 |
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好，那今天會不會調整？ |
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楊總裁金龍 |
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調整有時是調高，有時是調低。 |
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羅委員明才 |
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你都沒有講出來。謝謝。 |
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羅委員明才 |
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好，謝謝。 |
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主席 |
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謝謝，我們結束羅明才委員的質詢。 |
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主席 |
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接下來請洪毓祥委員，洪毓祥委員，洪毓祥委員不在。 |
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主席 |
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接下來請邱志偉委員。 |
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羅委員明才：（11時32分）主席、各位委員、出列席朋友，大家好。主席，請業務局的謝鳳瑛局長。 |
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主席：請謝局長。 |
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羅委員明才：謝局長你好。業務局平常大概綜管什麼樣的範圍，最近有什麼要注意的？ |
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謝局長鳳瑛：業務局的事務比較廣泛，像公開市場操作、準備金調整、支付系統的運作，還有選擇性金融信用管制，央行大概涉及到新臺幣的業務都在業務局裡面。 |
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羅委員明才：選擇性的信用管制，你們面對的大概是38家本土銀行，現在國外銀行跟你們的業務往來多不多？ |
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謝局長鳳瑛：有，我們有外商銀行，每家銀行都有做外匯業務，當然就會跟國外有往來。 |
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羅委員明才：我們臺股的市值從過去十幾名成長到現在，大概是全世界排名第四或第五，可是相對來看，臺灣的外匯交易情況好像沒有因為股市蓬勃發展，造成臺幣兌美元或者是日圓等等這些外匯業務成長，這兩者之間為什麼會差那麼多？就好比過去臺股的市值大概只有六兆多，現在突然成長到160兆，央行是不是應該與時俱進做一些若干的調整？很多外商都在說臺幣根本不方便，沒有人要…… |
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楊總裁金龍：委員，你講這一句話的時候，我要把事實跟委員報告。事實上，我們外匯的外資進出非常龐大，非常龐大的時候，在管理上會是我們的挑戰。 |
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羅委員明才：沒有，即便再龐大，面對高額的企業，或者是操盤，或者是基金，其實加一加，就是那100家。 |
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楊總裁金龍：不對，我跟委員報告，事實上，外資進出的時候是非常單方向的，它不是進出、進出、進出，如果它進出、進出有互相offset的話，那很好，那就平衡！但是它不是，它要出去的時候是非常巨額的、單邊的出去，它要進來的時候，是單邊的、巨額的進來，而且非常的集中。 |
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羅委員明才：那你怕不怕？ |
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楊總裁金龍：那當然，這是我們的挑戰。 |
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羅委員明才：既然這個量那麼大，你是不是要想什麼方法，讓它在市場自然的hedge掉？ |
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楊總裁金龍：沒有，我跟委員報告，外商的操作是非常靈活的，不會像你想像的要替臺灣外匯市場的穩定著想，所以要hedge或是什麼樣，我們也允許它hedge，但是它hedge的金額不大。 |
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羅委員明才：那你覺得美國華爾街的市場跟臺灣的市場差在哪裡？ |
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楊總裁金龍：美元的市場是全球的市場，美元是一個大的，它是G1，臺灣是small open，是小的、開放的經濟體，臺灣的市場沒辦法跟美國的市場比較。 |
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羅委員明才：可是我們股市的市值已經到全世界第四大了。 |
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楊總裁金龍：我跟委員報告，它的推升有很大一部分就是我們的外資推上去，另外一部分…… |
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羅委員明才：外面有一個聲音說央行遲遲不改變，是不是因為央行的理監事裡面有一些比較特殊性的立場？ |
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楊總裁金龍：沒有吧！會有什麼特殊立場？我可以在這裡鄭重地跟委員報告，沒有！我們的理事沒有特別的立場，絕對沒有。 |
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羅委員明才：有，你的理事有一些是來自民間機構，甚至以前還有銀行。 |
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楊總裁金龍：我們銀行的代表有兩位。 |
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羅委員明才：哪兩位？ |
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楊總裁金龍：一個是永豐，一個是兆豐。 |
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羅委員明才：永豐就是陳董嘛？ |
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楊總裁金龍：對。 |
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羅委員明才：兆豐呢？張董？ |
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楊總裁金龍：董瑞斌。就是兩位而已，就只有兩位而已…… |
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羅委員明才：以前的理事是不是有國泰還是哪一家？ |
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楊總裁金龍：沒有，現在都沒有。 |
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羅委員明才：以前呢？ |
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楊總裁金龍：那是很久以前，後來他也就離開啦！ |
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羅委員明才：這些理事的立場會不會跟股票國際化的立場有所…… |
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楊總裁金龍：不會，我跟委員報告，如果十幾席裡面有兩席有特殊立場，也沒辦法完全dominate。 |
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羅委員明才：請問總裁，現在一般銀行的心態是希望利率漲，還是希望利率跌？ |
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楊總裁金龍：沒有，利率的話，你看看我們的理事，第一個，它也是跟通膨掛鉤，如果通膨高的話，當然利率要提高；如果通膨低的時候，利率就要往下調。 |
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羅委員明才：對於民間的銀行，在利益考量下會覺得利率要高還是低比較好？ |
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楊總裁金龍：我們的理事不會純粹就他的立場發言，他會用他的專業發言。 |
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羅委員明才：好，因為時間關係，總裁，關於央行的這些交易制度，你們會不會嘗試讓它更開放？ |
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楊總裁金龍：我們本來就很開放啊。 |
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羅委員明才：沒有，你跟新加坡比，還有跟美國比…… |
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楊總裁金龍：沒有，因為新加坡是金融中心，雖然是金融中心，我跟委員報告一下，他們也是監控得很嚴謹。 |
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羅委員明才：監控沒關係，但是你就是要…… |
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楊總裁金龍：我也是要監控，但是他們的資金進出也非常自由。 |
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羅委員明才：新加坡對於外資匯入有沒有限制？自然人跟企業有沒有差別？ |
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楊總裁金龍：我們沒有限制。 |
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羅委員明才：有啊。 |
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楊總裁金龍：我們只有自然人而已，是我們自己國人。 |
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羅委員明才：請問總裁，一個自然人要匯美金去國外，一年是多少？ |
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楊總裁金龍：我們是1,000萬。 |
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羅委員明才：1,000萬是美金嘛。 |
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楊總裁金龍：對，有多少人…… |
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羅委員明才：好，企業要匯出去…… |
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楊總裁金龍：1億。 |
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羅委員明才：好，新加坡…… |
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楊總裁金龍：但是我跟委員報告，針對自然人雖然我們有一年1,000萬的限制，但是如果他是透過銀行體系匯出去、匯進來的都沒有限制。 |
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羅委員明才：為什麼我們的限制會跟新加坡差那麼多？ |
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楊總裁金龍：沒有，透過銀行體系的話，我們的自然人也可以自由進出啊。 |
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羅委員明才：你剛剛講說自然人匯出的限制是1,000萬美金。 |
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楊總裁金龍：那是他個人…… |
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羅委員明才：要不要調高？ |
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楊總裁金龍：我們本來是500萬，現在把它調高到1,000萬，是最近才調高的。 |
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羅委員明才：最近才調高？ |
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楊總裁金龍：對。 |
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羅委員明才：夠不夠啊？因為股市以前市值才6兆。 |
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楊總裁金龍：我請教，1,000萬相當多少？ |
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羅委員明才：三億多。 |
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楊總裁金龍：對，三億多，但是還有一個前提，如果是三億多的進出，在1,000萬裡面他不必讓我們知道，但如果超過的話，讓我們知道，也都還是可以進出。 |
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羅委員明才：總裁，你有沒有統計一下，臺灣這次因為股市大漲，身上的財富超過1億以上的，你知道有多少人嗎？ |
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楊總裁金龍：我不曉得，不過我跟委員報告，我剛才就是說如果是經過銀行體系的話，都不會受到限制，只是以他個人的名義要匯出去的時候，他是受到限制的，但是如果超過這個金額，他讓我們知道，我們都不會限制，只是要讓我們知道而已，他都還是可以進出自由。 |
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羅委員明才：對，總裁，我知道。現在自由經濟的時代來臨了，全世界，包括阿布達比，他們對於資金的進出採取的是一個很開放的制度，所以吸引了全世界的資金進去阿布達比。 |
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楊總裁金龍：我跟委員報告，最近很多國家反而是縮得更緊。 |
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羅委員明才：哪個國家？ |
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楊總裁金龍：像印度。 |
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羅委員明才：不要跟印度比啦！ |
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楊總裁金龍：好啦！沒錯啦，但是我們已經很開放了。 |
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羅委員明才：不要啦，總裁，你要跟美國或是跟新加坡比，因為人往高處爬，水往低處流。 |
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楊總裁金龍：我們跟新加坡也沒有差多少。 |
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羅委員明才：你心裡不要一直想印度啦！ |
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楊總裁金龍：不，我不是說只有它，印尼也是啊。 |
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羅委員明才：不要啦！你不要想那些，你要想比較進步的地方，比如說美國、日本。 |
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楊總裁金龍：好啦！沒錯，但是我…… |
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羅委員明才：最後一個問題，因為大家都在看，現在1美元兌換日幣是多少？ |
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楊總裁金龍：大概是…… |
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羅委員明才：162。 |
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楊總裁金龍：162左右。 |
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羅委員明才：這個對國人來說，是不是甜蜜點出現了？ |
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楊總裁金龍：差不多啦！ |
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羅委員明才：很多的民眾說：「現在日幣好便宜，我是不是應該多換一點日幣？」因為臺灣人都很喜歡去日本旅遊，去年大概去了1,000萬人次，既然那麼便宜，就趁機撿便宜，反正放著總有一天用得到。請問總裁，現在是不是換日幣的甜蜜點？ |
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楊總裁金龍：我不是用直接的方式回答你的問題…… |
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羅委員明才：你就建議，沒有關係。 |
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楊總裁金龍：我稍微偏一點說。你看我們的民眾要買日幣都很自由，對不對？你說到甜蜜點，在甜蜜點他要結購多少都是可以的。 |
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羅委員明才：所以總裁…… |
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楊總裁金龍：所以你說自由，這個是相當自由的，不是嗎？ |
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羅委員明才：對，所以現在是換日幣的一個很好的點嗎？ |
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楊總裁金龍：每個人的benchmark、判斷標準是不大一樣的。 |
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羅委員明才：那你的判斷呢？ |
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楊總裁金龍：據我了解，對很多人來講，現在兌換日幣是一個好的價格，所以他就去買了日幣，也就是說在非常自由的情況之下，他要買多少就可以買多少。 |
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羅委員明才：好，請問總裁，我們的外匯存底現在日幣的持有比例是多少？ |
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楊總裁金龍：我們持有的比例不高。 |
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羅委員明才：百分之一點多？以前是百分之三點多。 |
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楊總裁金龍：不高。 |
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羅委員明才：有沒有3%？ |
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楊總裁金龍：現在我不曉得，應該很低。 |
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羅委員明才：他知道。 |
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楊總裁金龍：不用啦！我私下去查一查再告訴你。 |
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羅委員明才：不是，現在日幣那麼低，你會不會考量提高日幣在我們外匯儲備的比例？ |
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楊總裁金龍：我們有，只是不高而已。 |
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羅委員明才：會不會考慮增加？ |
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楊總裁金龍：增加或不增加我們會隨時調整。 |
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羅委員明才：好，那今天會不會調整？ |
| gazette.blocks[111][0] |
楊總裁金龍：調整有時是調高，有時是調低。 |
| gazette.blocks[112][0] |
羅委員明才：你都沒有講出來。 |
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楊總裁金龍：謝謝。 |
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羅委員明才：好，謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝，我們結束羅明才委員的質詢。 |
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接下來請洪毓祥委員，洪毓祥委員，洪毓祥委員不在。 |
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接下來請邱志偉委員。 |
| gazette.agenda.page_end |
578 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_id |
委員會-11-5-20-21 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[0] |
李彥秀 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[1] |
林德福 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[2] |
吳秉叡 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[3] |
郭國文 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[4] |
賴惠員 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[5] |
林岱樺 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[6] |
劉書彬 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[7] |
賴士葆 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[8] |
李坤城 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[9] |
陳玉珍 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[10] |
林思銘 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[11] |
王世堅 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[12] |
羅明才 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[13] |
邱志偉 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[14] |
葉元之 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[15] |
洪毓祥 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[16] |
顏寬恒 |
| gazette.agenda.page_start |
527 |
| gazette.agenda.meetingDate[0] |
2026-07-09 |
| gazette.agenda.gazette_id |
1156102 |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_lcidc_ids[0] |
1156102_00004 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_name |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第21次全體委員會議紀錄 |
| gazette.agenda.content |
邀請中央銀行楊總裁金龍就「股市、通膨、匯率與房市多重風險中，中央銀行中長期因應策略與
政策工具」進行專題報告，並備質詢 |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_id |
1156102_00003 |