| IVOD_ID |
170386 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170386 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-26-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
18 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-08T14:56:22+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-08T15:05:30+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:08 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4fafa81be08c8210c0a13c4ea59058678c89d092fec882f476d06c5fcdc2d6fc2f230d750febacb15ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王鴻薇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:56:22 - 15:05:30 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：邀請衛生福利部部長、教育部及經濟部就「食安問題爆不停，如何構建使國人安心生活就學與食品廠安全管理精進作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
討論事項
審查
一、委員廖偉翔等18人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十四條及第二十五條條文修正草案」案。
二、委員蘇清泉等23人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十二條條文修正草案」案。
三、委員蘇清泉等20人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第四條條文修正草案」案。
四、委員葛如鈞等22人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
五、委員翁曉玲等17人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十二條條文修正草案」案。
六、委員黃健豪等19人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第五十六條之一條文修正草案」案。
七、委員羅智強等29人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
八、委員黃健豪等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
九、委員羅廷瑋等17人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
十、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第四十五條條文修正草案」案。
十一、委員魯明哲等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十二條條文修正草案」案。
十二、委員王育敏等17人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法部分條文修正草案」案。
十三、委員林倩綺等19人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十二條條文修正草案」案。
十四、委員陳超明等16人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第五十六條之一條文修正草案」案。
十五、委員黃健豪等23人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十二條、第二十八條及第三十一條之一條文修正草案」案。
十六、委員張嘉郡等28人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十二條條文修正草案」案。
十七、委員王育敏等19人擬具「食品安全衛生管理法第二十八條條文修正草案」案。
【專題報告及討論事項綜合詢答，討論事項僅詢答】
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好 謝謝主席請我們衛福部 施部長我請施部長好 部長今天早上一開始 |
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我就要求我們衛福部應該針對這一次整個的問題由的全台流竄以及你們政策一變再變應該要向社會道歉可是到目前為止我沒有聽到你有道歉 |
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所以你真的覺得不需要道歉我們依法行政那在這當中如果有風險的溝通上對大眾的溝通有不足的地方我們來改進所以你不道歉政策一變再變不道歉這個政策的改變造成大家的困擾的部分那麼這個我願意為這件事情道歉 |
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為什麼我這樣問部長除了今天早上我一開始在講包含我剛才聽到李昆存委員他是民進黨籍執政黨籍的委員我看他都動不掉啊講到第一線的在消費者 |
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到目前為止事實上已經發生多起消費者因為你們的標準一變再變然後整個的政策亂七八糟所以在現場已經開始有一些被退貨被刁難然後大家吵來吵去一堆民怨所以我剛才講說你們真的應該用一個非常誠懇的態度先跟所有的民眾來道歉 |
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部長 1300噸的溫體油如果我們學校的游泳池可以灌進幾個游泳池 你知道嗎這個我沒有計算過2.5個游泳池可以感覺到吧 |
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1300公噸的這些問題油如果我們學校25公尺這個標準池起碼灌進2.5個游泳池但是到目前為止回收只有3%回收只有3%所以這一次的將問題油的事件致癌油的事件 |
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回收非常非常的少然後你政策一再改變所以我也想請問一下因為今天又發生了泰山另外一個所謂的案外批號現在是確定不是原來的批號了是吧 |
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這批號跟這個目前下架我們所宣布的這些油品的批號是不同批號好不同那所以原來下架的油品是剛剛原來的批號的製造的油嘛對不對所以你這樣新的批號出現你們有沒有一個比較果斷更快速的 |
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一個政策 其實跟委員說明我們第一刻下架的就是所有油品就是這個下來的所有的油品其實第一刻就已經下架了後面調整的部分只是由這個油品再往下去製造的加工的食品那個政策上我們有一些調整是沒有錯但是油品的部分都是第一刻就全部下架好 所以我想確定一下 這個就是按照這個106年定下來的原則 我想確定一下 所以今天 |
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爆發了所謂的案外批號那麼這些批號就是又出事的批號它下面所製造的油品還有相關的製品也通通一起都要下架是不是都在你原來的下架範圍嗎不要到時候又告訴我又有其他的下架的產品喔 |
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這一個油品的批號因為是跟上一次的我們現在目前公布的是不同批號所以我們現在正會同這個彰化縣衛生局往上去追溯這個批號所提供的油品是哪一些效期是哪一批然後就會來發布所以還是有可能發生另外要立刻再去公布相關的流向還有相關下架的產品嗎 |
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是非常有可能嘛 對不對因為他批號不一樣嘛搞不好製造日期也不一樣啊 對不對所以同意嘛就是說你可能會有繼續進一步的要再公布的所以這個事件確實已經是越滾越大那我請問一下部長我們現在所有的事情從你6月30號接受到通報之後請問一下我們行政院長卓榮泰院長有全程掌握嗎 |
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我們都有跟院長報告這個目前的辦理的情形包含他也指示這個要擴大去查驗所以我們才會把所有的過去的這個中聯的郵品每一批都重新驗好 所以院長全盤掌握院長沒有在狀況外嘛 對不對 |
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好 院長沒有在狀況外 所以我們現在外界所批評跟質疑你們一遍再遍 甚至有包含蓋牌的問題 髮夾彎的問題所以院長也全程掌握 |
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我們這個沒有什麼蓋牌就是我們都按照過去所定下來的這些行政規則在執行但是當中因為這個事件的特殊性我們再召開專家會議再來做一些調整那麼這些都是按照證據查到哪裡的時候事實發現到哪裡做的調整所以 |
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到目前為止部長不認為你們有任何需要負行政責任或者政治責任的嗎我們第一刻呢就已經把油品的部分都是要求要下架了那是只是在處理油品衍生的這個再製品就過去而言它是不需要下架過去訂的標準是不需要的那我們才就這個事件上再重新檢視部長我直接說啊問題油要下架出問題的官員也要下架 |
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我有說過 到目前為止你現在 剛才我講 你說你願意為這整個程序為這整個跟外界的溝通你願意為這個事情道歉可是在這之前沒有人道歉耶好像這個事情活該就發生這樣的事情啦沒有人道歉 |
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沒有人下台也沒有人負責以現階段來講因為看起來他的整個問題又有事態有擴大因為又發現新的一批這個案外的批號這個時候讓你們去處理但是我在這邊特別要強調的相關的行政責任相關的政治責任該付就要付剛才也講就是說因為法務部現在檢調也開始在調查 |
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如果業者有什麼隱匿甚至為了他的股價或者是為了他的這個股東會有刻意隱匿的事情當然該辦就要辦同樣的今天如果我們的官員想要息事寧人想要不要讓事態擴大而且結果造成今天 |
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民眾根本不信任我們的政府不信任我們的官員的時候該下台就要下台好不好這我們現在第一課最重要就是趕快把這個整個事件穩定下來我們趕快把它清場最先穩定下來讓民眾都能安心那該負責就負責那另外請教部長中聯以外的你們會不會做抽檢 |
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已經進行抽檢就是其他三家什麼時候會有結果因為很多人都說只有中聯市有問題嗎其他有沒有問題嗎目前其他三家已經採取逐批檢驗了他們現在出的貨都是逐批檢驗了那現在我們是在回頭再去看過去的批次那目前都已經進行逐批檢驗什麼時候可以公佈那才能夠安民心嘛不然大家又擔心你蓋牌啊什麼時候可以公佈就是有或沒有 |
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我們檢驗出來一有問題的人會馬上都會宣布的就立即宣布 第一時間宣布就像我們昨天晚上接到通報我今天早上就跟大家先說了但是確實的這個詳細的批號跟流向的話要等我們把它釐清之後再說明避免又造成大家資訊上的混淆 |
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对不能再有混淆也不能再有论察尤其啊绝对不能容许的就是盖牌好不好好谢谢好谢谢好谢谢王宏威委员的咨询 |