| IVOD_ID |
17036 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17036 |
| 日期 |
2025-11-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-4-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期第9次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期第9次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2025-11-14T08:30:53+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-11-14T18:05:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
09:34:07 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/8398b1826590a609dffd738a7356f4dace50009cd90371ce914d0d15f34b2c02d92b637c38ca24655ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-11-14T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第4會期第9次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢。二、11月14日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、11月18日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:30:53 - 18:05:00 |
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總院長各位列席各位早安我們現在進行國事論壇委員發言三分鐘首先請蔓茹貞委員發言楊瓊英委員請準備 |
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主席 各位親愛的家人 大家好今天是我第五次 |
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要向替全國百萬新住民與家庭再次以最沉痛的態度質問卓榮泰院長新住民基本法實施日期到底什麼時候公告執行時您親口承認實行日期是行政院決定 |
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你完全清楚行政院有法律責任為什麼拖了一年連賴總統在113年8月12日都公佈了但行政院卻讓法律被擱置 |
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凍結使中央地方相關部會停擺這是破壞國家制度藐視法律威權糟蹋人民權利的政府行政院又再用言義中敷衍就是向人民與全世界宣告台灣政府可以不執行 |
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國會通過的法例可以選擇忽視百萬新住民的權利可以容許制度化歧視的存在逼人民走上街頭不是人民激動而是政府失職這樣的行政態度是對 |
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民主制度的侮辱我再次重申三個原則新住民不是次等公民新住民不是選舉工具新住民不是行政院 |
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可有可無的族群新住民努力工作養家納稅照顧長輩是人口是勞動力經濟文化的重要的力量卻與行政帶動遭到不友善的制度被剝奪本影響的保障不是個案而是政府制度化 |
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忽视的结果三读通过的法律被拖延不执行这是制度性的歧视行政权力法法律破坏人民对国家的信任因此我政治要求行政院立即公告新住民基本法14日起立即提出新住民发展署成立的 |
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持城立即停止对新住民的牺牲我们不是要抗议我们是要提醒政府要重视新住民不要再拖延守法友善台湾的政治谢谢大家谢谢好 谢谢麦玉珍委员的发言接下来我们请杨琼英委员发言林倩琪委员请准备 |
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親愛的院會主席韓院長行政團隊卓院長所領軍的行政團隊各位同仁新聞界的朋友楊瓊玉發言有關媒體揭露中油第三座液化天然氣接收站三接工程涉爆 |
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福報了百億元的預算錄音檔當中只指中油的高層指示中油不缺錢引發了輿論的一個震撼三接原本是北台灣供氣以及淨零轉型的重要工程如今卻被揭發預算從94億元暴增到253億元 |
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一句 中油不缺錢 讓預算暴增了三倍 百億灌水如果此一說法屬實中油高層不僅是利用公共工程上下其手 吃國家吃國家甚至把最低標或者是合理標搞成了最高標 |
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中油身為國營企業理應以最高的標準來自律但現在看起來三接不是能源建設而是利益建設這種說法無論如何不可原諒 |
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能源轉型我們要的是綠電不是黑金要的是安全不是貪婪剪掉路如果放任福報百億工程的貪官逍遙法外能心安嗎 |
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因此檢調無論如何必須要仔細的好好的來偵辦查個水落石出如果檢調不查人民會記者誰讓城鄉變成了貪婪的墳場謝謝楊求英委員的發言接下來我們請林倩琦委員發言徐毅臻委員請準備 |
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院長 府會同仁媒體朋友 全國同胞大家好守護食安底線 改善蛋機產業今天本席要嚴正地指出這一次的毒彈事件第三度重演凸顯政府在食品安全上的失職與傲慢 |
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雞蛋被檢驗出農藥分譜磷殘留高達0.3ppm15萬顆蛋流入市場這不是一個單一事件從這裡面可以看得出制度失靈的警訊民眾買蛋回家本來應該安心食用卻一次又一次被迫成為體制失能的受害者 |
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回顧2017 2019台灣都曾經爆發過毒彈事件中央聲稱將有多項改革的政策然而8年過去了制度似乎一成不變食藥署仍然慢半拍各部會相互卸責這次事件發生農業部說是個案環境污染食藥署 |
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竟然負荷說風險不高要一個人一天吃7顆才會危害彷彿只要用話術來安撫民眾就能夠沒有健康風險嗎本席要問若真的是個案若真的風險不高為何需要預防性下架15萬顆流露市面的雞蛋政府對人民的健康不該用模糊的字眼與矛盾的說法來掩飾 |
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最新調查甚至發現芬普尼不是環境污染而是直接使用在雞隻身上農戶疑似有涉違法農業部與食藥署怎麼能夠在真相還沒有清楚之前就草率地替污染源來背書 |
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令本席更難接受的是現任食藥署署長江志剛醫師過去曾經以醫師專業的身份嚴厲批評政府謝澤主張應該針對慢性中毒啟動流行病學的調查檢測甲狀腺的影響如今換了位置卻換了腦袋 |
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以官員的身份向公眾傳遞淡化風險的說辭宣稱每天吃七顆雞蛋吃一輩子才會出事請問有多少民眾能夠接受這樣的說法民眾要的不是出事以後統計數字上的安全而是政府在制度把關上應該有的負責芬普尼是一種廣效性的農藥本來用是除蟲會增加假裝腺癌的風險也可能對肝腎造成危害如果 |
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所有的監測追蹤機制到現在都還沒有起重又有什麼資格來談食安國家本席呼籲中央應該採三點來趕快健全蛋機產業環境第一要協助蛋機產業鏈建置密閉設養殖淘汰格子龍以利定期的全面消毒 |
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第二 應該要建立更完善的替代用藥制度讓基農有合法安全的病害防治選擇同時強化農藥殘留的監測第三 衛福部 農業部應該立即公佈完整風險評估報告並啟動追蹤研究謝謝林倩琦委員的發言接下來我們請徐玉珍委員發言洪孟楷委員請準備 |
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韓院長以及卓院長所領軍的行政團隊以及各位同仁 大家早賴清德總統上任以來 兩岸的關係急速下滑 軍事對峙頻繁交流的管道封閉 敵意螺旋持續的升溫這一切並非外力的壓迫所致而是民進黨政府自身錯誤的判斷與政治操作的惡果 |
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賴清德以萊爾校長式的領導風格治國卻讓政府在兩岸政策上陷入嚴重的無知挑釁病症一群民進黨政治人物靠炒作台獨議題收割政治紅領遇到風險卻立即閃避尋求他人庇護明明是自己愛惹事最後卻要韓國瑜院長出面救火 |
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這場荒謬劇不僅是民進黨的黑色幽默更是讓國家安全的一個巨大隱憂賴清德將無知的病態操作成政治武器用挑釁掩飾無能用對立包裝信念自己搞爛兩岸溝通的對話機制如今卻反過來要求韓院長出面解決危機當領導人將個人意識形態凌駕於國家利益之上 |
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整個國家就會被拖入不必要的戰爭風險之中人民也會陷入難以預料的重大危機韓國瑜院長說自己生病卻要別人吃藥這句話一語道破賴政府的本質製造危機卻不願承擔責任 |
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面對賴政府種種帶有政治性的挑釁與錯誤的政策立法院必須成為兩岸關係的理性防火牆國會不僅是立法機構更是憲政秩序中的監督與輔助的支柱 |
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韓國院長以制度責任與超然的態度出發願意協助賴總統走出兩岸的僵局展現了政治成熟及政治領袖的格局國民黨黨團以正式建議成立立法院兩岸事務因應對策小組目的在於以理性監督與政策對話彌補政府部門的失能民進黨在102年曾提出 |
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台灣與中國處理雙方人民往來事務機構相互設立分支機構的條例草案其中第3條第4條第6條第12條第15條及規定重大的兩岸決策應送立法院兩岸事務因應對策小組及院會決議後定之以落實國會保留原則的精神如今民進黨執政 |
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卻忘記了當年的主張只想迴避國會的監督顯見其政治立場早已淪為權力的工具當總統被意識形態所綁架立法院就該勸這位病人吃藥不能任由他繼續誤人誤國只有回歸憲政重建制度台灣才能真正走出危機恢復兩岸的穩定與和平 |
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謝謝徐議貞委員的發言接下來我們請洪孟凱委員發言張志倫委員請準備 |
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主席各位立院同仁以及卓院長還有行政官員今天輪到交通組的施政總質詢本期要先來針對我們現在有一個交通議題來做一個肯定跟呼籲 |
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有記得五年前本席進來到立法院的時候其實就已經有看到我們國道客運有非常多的需求而希望能夠來研議做雙層巴士上國道使用這是因為看到國外有很多的一個相關的案例包括美國歐洲新加坡香港等都有雙層巴士上國道但當時交通部門給我們的回覆千篇一律就只有安全問題 |
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但我們覺得很納悶的是別的國家可以做別的國家沒有安全的疑慮為什麼台灣就有而在一年多前當新任部長上任之後本席再一次在交通委員會來做質詢新任部長願意針對這個議題帶回去研究本席予以肯定 |
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而到昨天看到已經要完成修法明年可以雙程巴士上國道通過而這樣子的一個目的其實在於減輕很多通勤族朋友的壓力尤其是很多通勤族他在國道客運上面往往因為都需要有座位而等到了一班巴士來結果因為沒有座位他沒有辦法再上去而造成通勤的困擾苦民所苦 |
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政府可以更積極的作為讓大家看到人民的需求能夠被解決這才是一個負責任的政府應該有的態度但反觀在這個禮拜我們也看到更荒謬的事情是詐騙集團太子集團在台灣已經落地深耕了幾年之久而更銀行局的局長親口證實過去6年有高達52次 |
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異常的大量洗錢示警通報但負責洗錢防治的相關單位到底在哪裡其實52次不要說52次5.2次就好哪怕只有一次如果說我們有洗錢防治的相關單位有更積極的作為更明確的態度以及更直接的深入調查也許我們可以更快破獲這樣子龐大的詐騙集團 |
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看到我們現在在討論國家的MM101能不能被詐騙集團使用我們更要問的是那過去6年52次的通報難道政府都後知後覺嗎 |
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我再一次呼籲現在看到打詐儀表板上面這個禮拜詐騙又再有死灰復燃的狀況尤其是每天高達兩億多的詐騙甚至禮拜二的時候兩億八千多萬將近三億的詐騙的時候國人對於詐騙的深惡痛絕是現在行政官員必須每天念茲在茲思考記在心裡的 |
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打擊詐騙 我們共同捍衛共同防禦政府應該要有更積極的作為這是你我共同的事情絕對不容許任何的放水謝謝好 謝謝洪孟愷委員的發言報告委員會現在在議場二樓旁聽來自政治大學全球衛生治理參訪團來自世界各國的好朋友們我們掌聲歡迎Welcome Taiwan |
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接下來我們請登記最後一位張志倫委員請發言 |
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院長各位同仁各位媒體朋友大家早安大家好中油三接工程被媒體揭露疑似浮爆超過100億元引爆社會震撼當真正讓人心人民心寒的不只是預算暴增而是吹哨者三年三度檢舉司法單位卻始終毫無動靜 |
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首先預算從94億一路暴增到253億增加將近150億週刊更揭露許多錄音檔包括中油不缺錢再報告一點你要寫多少就寫多少 |
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倘若報導屬實,本案已經不是一般的行政疏失,而是赤裸裸的官商勾結、浮暴預算,圖利特定廠商的重大指控。本席以及社會大眾都想知道,究竟誰在背後指揮?誰在護航?又是誰在讓人民的血汗錢成為工程預算的提款機? |
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再來更離譜的是司法單位的態度吹哨者在2020年提出第一次檢舉今年的8月提出第二次檢舉如今第三次檢舉檢舉函由國民黨團直接送到司法部的手上 |
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但三年來司法單位竟然連有沒有收到檢舉函都說不清楚本席想問副總統訪歐捐款80億的謠言可以三天查清楚監察院院長的謠言也可以三天查清楚為何牽涉幾百億工奴的國營事業檢舉案三年來卻查不出任何結果這不是偵查不公開而是吃案不公開 |
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更嚴重的是中油工程的預算膨脹不是第一次了三接總經費從660億暴增到965億中油LNG儲存潮從514億變成949億為何招標如此經費膨脹本席十分憂心 |
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未來四階會不會重演三階的劇本讓廠商用假借能源的政策名義下繼續掏空國庫因此本席呼籲民進黨政府針對三階弊案政府除了司法機關應該積極來查明真相外 |
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應該也要要求審計部主動進行集合該項預算而不是以沉默來漠視真相三接案涉及貪污圖利背信偽造文書等重大犯罪終由不是提款機不能淪為利益輸送的工具司法更不能選擇性執法人民的血汗錢每一分每一毫本席都會幫他們盯緊查明到底謝謝 |
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謝謝張志倫委員的發言現在登記國事論壇發言的委員均已經發言完畢請各黨團的幹部上午9點50分至議場後方主席休息室進行本次會議議程之溝通先來休息 |
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好 報告議員會 請秘書長報告出席人數報告議員會出席委員65人 已足法定人數我們現在開會報告議員會因為本次會議的議程有待溝通我們現在休息 |
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報告委員會我們現在繼續開會先處理朝野黨團協商結論請議事人員宣讀 |
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立法院黨團協商結論時間114年11月14日星期五上午9時30分地點議長主席辦公室決定事項一各黨團同意行政院罕見審議之中央政府花蓮馬太安西沿澀湖災後重建特別預算案甄列納入11月14日星期五院會報告事項二11月18日星期二上午邀請行政院院長主計長財政部部長 |
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行政院公共工程委員會主任委員及相關部會首長列席報告中央政府花蓮馬太安溪驗澀湖災禍重建特別預算案編織經過並備質詢質詢人數由國民黨黨團推派5人民進黨黨團推派5人台灣民眾黨團推派1人進行質詢順序預例說前14處辦理 |
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名單請於十一月十七日星期一中午十二時前送至議事處會診 議案詢談完畢後 即將審查各黨團同意不提出複議 當事會議不處理臨時提案主持人韓國瑜 相代表傅坤祺 羅志祥 林佩祥 柯建銘 鍾嘉斌 陳培宇黃國昌 張啟改 陳昭芝 宣讀完畢報告院會 請問院會對以上黨團協商有異議 |
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沒有異議 我們就通過114年114年11月14日朝野黨團協商結論 經決定如下一 各黨團同意行政院函請審議資中央政府花蓮 馬太安 燕塞湖災後重建特別預算案 |
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增列納入 11 月 14 日星期五院會報告事項2. |
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11 月 18 日星期二上午邀請行政院院長、主席長、財政部長、行政院公共工程委員會主任委員及相關部會首長列席報告中央政府花蓮馬太安溪淹塞湖災後重建特別預算案編制經過並備諮詢 |
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諮詢人數由國民黨推派五位民進黨團推派五位臺灣民眾黨團推派一位進行諮詢順序依例授權議事處我們進行辦理名單請於11月17號星期一中午12點前送至議事處會診議案詢答完畢後即交審查各黨團同意不提出複議當次會議我們不處理臨時提案報應會因程序委員會 |
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以本次會議議事日程草案,送院會處理,現有黨團依照本院議事成立,對本次會議議事日程草案提出異議,我們現在進行處理,並截止收案。報告院會現有黨團共識如下。1.今天院會早上處理協商結論宣讀。2.在處理議事日程草案確認。1.提案先後進行處理。 |
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3.议程草案确认完毕之后,进行报告事项。报告事项完毕之后休息。下午2点至红楼3024,我们进行法案协商。处理补助型计划财化法修正案及光电三法之协商。4.下午3点,愿会继续开会处理讨论事项。 |
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5.討論事項,所列之一般提案均不說明及發言,並不表決,盡負二讀,交付協商。6. |
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附議案均不發言,進行處理。7. |
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前開本日協商之財化法及光電三法,本日院會下午三點,我們進行處理。 |
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八 其餘各項討論事項之法律案均協商後再行處理不須協商及完成協商之法律案則進行處理九 下週二上午進行特別預算報告諮詢下午繼續進行交通組施政諮詢現在依照黨團共識進行議程草案確認先進行報告事項部分我們請議事人員宣讀黨團之提議內容 |
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本院民進黨黨團針對立法院第十一屆第四會期第九次會議議事日程報告事項質詢事項擬請責列報告事項二十二案如附表是否有當進行公決本院台灣民眾黨黨團針對第十一屆第四會期第九次會議議程報告事項質詢事項及對行政院長施政報告繼續質詢 |
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提議僅限列議權草案鎖列一案及下表鎖列三十三案是否有當進行公決本院國務黨黨團針對第十一屆第四會期第九次會議已呈報告事項質詢事項其對行政院長施政報告繼續質詢提議僅限列議權草案鎖列一案及下表鎖列三十三案是否有當進行公決宣讀完畢歡迎會我們現在依照先後處理各黨團的提議 |
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我們現在開始按鈴七分鐘請議事人員分發表決卡 |
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好 抱怨會我們現在按鈴7分鐘完畢請問每位委員是否都有拿到表決卡有拿到 我們現在開始針對民進黨的提議我們要開始進行表決現在有民進黨黨團要求記名表決我們現在贊成民進黨團提議請按贊成 反對 請按反對時間1分鐘 現在開始 |
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抱怨會報告表決結果在場委員出席109位 |
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贊成51位反對58位贊成者少數民進黨黨團提議不通過報議會我們現在進行處理台灣民眾黨黨團僅限列之提議因為國民黨團之提議與該黨團提議相同我們一併處理請問議員會針對台灣民眾黨團國民黨黨團提議通過有無異議 |
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請問院會有異議有異議我們進行表決現在針對臺灣民眾黨團國民黨黨團提議現在有民進黨團臺灣民眾黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決時間一分鐘贊成 請按贊成反對 請按反對現在開始 |
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報告表決結果 在場出席59位 贊成59位 反對0位 棄權0位 贊成者多數我們台灣民眾黨團 國民黨黨團提議照案通過 |
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本次會議議事日程包括事項 質詢事項及對行政院院長施政報告繼續質詢我們照剛才表決通過及黨團共識通過關於我們現在繼續進行處理討論事項部分一 先後處理各黨團提議我們現在處理民進黨黨團討論事項共計一案請議事人員宣讀提議內容 |
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現在針對民進黨黨團所提議我們要進行表決贊成 請按贊成反對 請按反對時間一分鐘 現在開始 |
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法院會報告表決結果在場委員109位贊成51位反對58位贊成者少數民進黨黨團提議不通過法院會我們現在進行處理台灣民眾黨團僅限列之提議國民黨團之提議與該黨團提議相同我們一併來進行處理請議事人員一併宣讀提議內容 |
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本院台灣民眾黨黨團針對第十一屆第四會期第九次會議議事日程提議增列討論事項僅限列如附表16案並於施政質詢前處理是否有當進行公決本院國民黨黨團針對第十一屆第四會期第九次會議議事日程提議增列討論事項僅限列14案如下列表並於施政質詢前處理是否有當進行公決宣讀完畢 |
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請問院會對台灣民眾黨團 國民黨團所提議有無異議有異議我們要進行表決我們現在針對台灣民眾黨團 國民黨團所提議現在有民進黨台灣民眾黨要求記名表決我們開始記名表決贊成 請按贊成反對 請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
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很安靜 |
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報應會報告表決結果在場為109位 贊成58位 反對0位 棄權51位 |
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贊成者多數 臺灣民眾黨團 國民黨團提議照案通過本次會議議事日程討論事項照臺灣民眾黨團 國民黨團所提議通過本次會議議事日程確定報應會李昆哲委員發表聲明對剛才表決與民進黨黨團意見一致 我們列入公報記錄現在進行報告事項 請民主黨宣讀第四會期 第八次會議議事錄 |
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宣讀立案第十一屆第四會議第八次會議一四日時間中華民國一百十四點十一月七日上午九十至下午四十三十一分十一月十一日上午九十至下午四十五十二分地鐵表演一場出席委員 遊園靠等一百十二人請教委員 後委員允 列席官員行政院院長卓榮泰等主席院長韓國瑜 副院長江啟臣報告事項第一案宣讀表演第十一屆第四會議第七次會議一四五決定 確定 |
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第2-8 10-22-24-26-3840-41-43-44-46-4955-58-61-74 76-173案均決定交互相關委員會審查處理或交互相關委員會第9-23-25-39-41-54 |
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12150.206 |
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五十九七十五案 均決定禁貿獨與相關提案並按協商第五十案 決定禁貿獨並由國民黨黨團負責召集協商第六十案 決定同意撤回第174案為教育及文化委員會所提出報告案質詢事項夾 行政院答案部份三件 與本院委員質詢部份一件同意選擇行使事項決議 |
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一 蔣榮軒不同意為國家通訊傳播委員會委員並為主任委員二 陳明修不同意為國家通訊傳播委員會委員並為副主任委員三 黃威威 羅惠文均不同意為國家通訊傳播委員會委員對行政院長施政報告繼續質詢決定下次會議進行交通組織質詢宣讀完畢 |
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抱怨會議我們針對第四會期第八次會議的議事錄並沒有委員或黨團提出錯誤或遺漏之處我們現在做以下決定第四會期第八次會議議事錄確定我們現在進行處理爭列部分我們要先進行處理黨團協商結論爭列報告事項一 |
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12232.676 |
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來 尊重一下不然會現在一場二樓旁聽的來自宜蘭縣華德福實驗高中的同學我們掌聲歡迎各位同學不然會現在一場二樓旁聽的來自另外一批南投縣清宮總會的朋友們我們掌聲歡迎好 請宣讀 |
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1 行政院函行審議 中央政府花蓮 馬灘 西燕色湖災後重建特別預算NN 宣讀完畢 |
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12261.213 |
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案案依照黨團協商結論定於10月18號星期二上午邀請行政院院長 主計長 財政部長行政院公共工程主任委員會主委以及相關部會首長列席報告編制經過並備質詢我們繼續處理黨團甄列部分請宣讀第一案 |
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12266.892 |
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12267.813 |
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議員會有異議沒有異議通過下議案 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
12277.354 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
12304.346 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
2.委員圖選及等領據《遭應管政法》第2條第26條及第28條條文修正草案依實處理監教社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢如意通過下案3.委員盧憲英等領據《性別平等工作法》第15條及第16條條文修正草案依實處理監教社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢如意通過下案4.委員盧憲英等領據《社會救助法》第4條第5條之2及第5條之3條文修正草案依實處理監教社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀 |
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12305.606 |
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12310.489 |
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法案 第5 國民黨團體禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商請問院會有沒有異議沒有異議 本案禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商 下一項 |
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12348.897 |
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6.委員徐宇珍等領據《民法》第1223條條文修正草案,依次處意見交司法及法治委員會審查,宣讀完畢。7.委員吳小林等領據《國民法》官法第6條條文修正草案,依次處意見交司法及法治委員會審查,宣讀完畢。8.委員吳小林等領據《中央行政機關組織基準法》第1條、第21條及第35條條文修正草案,依次處意見交司法及法治委員會審查,宣讀完畢。 |
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12354.519 |
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9.委員林倩琦的領據《外送平台管理及從業者援助權益保障法》草案14. |
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12354.519 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
12359.241 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
委員林倩琦的領據《癌症防治法》增立第9條之一及第9條之二條文草案14. |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
12359.241 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
12364.402 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
委員林倩琦的領據《原住民足健康法》第7條條文修正草案14. |
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12364.402 |
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12368.884 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
委員林倩琦的領據《原住民足健康法》第7條條文修正草案14. |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
12368.884 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
12373.105 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
委員林倩琦的領據《原住民足健康法》第7條條文修正草案14. |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
12373.105 |
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| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
委員林倩琦的領據《癌症防治法》增立第9條之一及第9條之二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
12378.187 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
12387.035 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
12.委員林倩琦的領據《刑事訴訟法》第108條條文修正常案 依次處一件交付司法及法制委員會審查 宣布完畢13. |
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12387.035 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
12395.422 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
委員張震倫的領據《使用牌照稅法》第5條條文修正常案 依次處一件交付財政委員會審查 宣布完畢14. |
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12401.568 |
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委員張震倫的領據《獲利稅條例第10條13條文修正常案 依次處一件交付財政委員會審查 宣布完畢報議會第14案 有國民黨團提議 |
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進一步二讀與相關提案並按協商請問願會有異議免議本案進一步二讀與相關提案並按協商下議案委託下言 |
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12435.647 |
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十六 委員李燕秀等你去醫療法部分條文修正草案 依次處理件交 社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 選舉委員 主席 委員徐曉欣等你去職業安全衛生法部分條文修正草案 依次處理件交 社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 選舉委員 主席 委員 主席 |
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12436.087 |
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12458.92 |
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十八 委員徐曉新的凝聚外送名單管理計從業人員權益保障法草案 依次處理件交社會福利及物上環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢十九 委員徐曉新的凝聚使用牌照稅務法第五條條文修正草案 依次處理件交財政委員會審查 宣讀完畢二十 委員萬美玲的凝聚貨物稅條例第十二條之三條文修正草案 依次處理件交財政委員會審查 宣讀完畢 |
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12470.699 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
委員會第二十案現在由國民黨團提議禁負二讀與相關提案並按協商請問院會有無異議沒有異議本案禁負二讀與相關提案並按協商下議案委員會通過下議案 |
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12496.301 |
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二十二 委員會羅廷偉等領據公務人員退休自檢復續法第六十七調調修正草案議事處意見交涉反檢法律委員會審查 宣讀完畢法院會第二十二案由國民黨團體本案經負二讀與相關提案並按協商請問院會有異議沒有異議本案經負二讀與相關提案並按協商下言 |
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| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
12511.501 |
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二十三 委員黃建豪等領據 民法第1223條條文修正草案 一致處理監交涉法及法徵文會審查 宣讀完畢二十四 委員洪孟凱等領據 使用拍攝稅法第五條條文修正草案 一致處理監交財政文會審查 宣讀完畢 |
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12514.413 |
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五一通過下案五一通過下案五一通過下案 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
12535.786 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
12552.675 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
二十七 委員王勝旭等理據《衛生委員權益保障及衛生品等管理法》草案 議事處提交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣傳完畢二十八 委員張雅琳等理據《職業安全衛生法》部分條文修正草案 議事處提交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣傳完畢 |
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12553.715 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
12575.183 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
二十九 維園鄰居縣等鄰居勞動基準法部門條文修正草案一時數一間交社會福利及物上環境委員會審查宣傳完畢五一通過下案三十一 維園鄰居縣等鄰居基金法第21條是一條文修正草案一時數一間交消動委員會審查宣傳完畢五一通過下案三十一 維園鄰居縣等鄰居基金法第11條及第42條條文修正草案 |
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12575.623 |
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12581.165 |
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第32案 由臺灣民眾黨黨團提《政府二讀》與相關提案並案協商請問院會有意免議本案《政府二讀》與相關提案並案協商 |
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12599.432 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
12621.6 |
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三十三案 臺灣民眾黨團團體區公共電視法第十六條及第四十九條條文修正常案議事處議員 張教育及文化委員會審查宣布完畢法院會第三十三案由臺灣民眾黨團體本案禁覆二讀與相關提案併案協商請委員會有異議沒有異議本案禁覆二讀與相關提案併案協商下議案 |
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12636.639 |
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抱怨會更正本次會議報告事項記載於議事錄的順序呢已經授權議事處來進行調整現在繼續處理原列報告事項請宣讀第二案議員會有異議 通過下一案 |
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12646.121 |
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三 委員王紅衛等離居貪污製罪條例第十二條條文修正草案依次處理件交司法及法制委員會審查 宣讀完畢四 委員顏光衡等離居貨物罪條例第十二條之三條文修正草案依次處理件交財政委員會審查 宣讀完畢國民黨團體第四案本案禁服二讀與相關提案併案協商請委員會有異議沒有異議本案禁服二讀與相關提案併案協商下議案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
五 委員袁康恆的理據使用派出稅法第五條條文修正草案依次處理件交財政委員會審查 宣讀完畢六 委員袁康恆的理據校園飲食均衡及健康促進法草案依次處理件交稅務及文化委員會審查 宣讀完畢七 委員林岳勤的理據使用派出稅法第五條條文修正草案依次處理件交財政委員會審查 宣讀完畢八 委員林岳勤的理據《都民危害防制條例》第十一條文修正草案 |
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一事出意见交司法及法治委员会审查 宣传完毕一事出意见交司法及法治委员会审查 宣传完毕一事出意见交内政委员会审查 宣传完毕一事出意见交司法及法治委员会审查 宣传完毕一事出意见交司法及法治委员会审查 宣传完毕一事出意见交司法及法治委员会审查 |
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十二 委員參與與等領據財政促進劃分法第十六條十一及第三十條條文修正草案 議事處一件交財政委員會審查 宣讀完畢十三 委員參與與等領據國民聯金法部份條文修正草案議事處一件交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢十四 委員參與與等領據老年農民福利基金的專行條例第四條條文修正草案 |
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一支出一件交社會福利 衛生環境經濟內診三務委員會審查 宣讀完畢十五 委員邱仲華等鄰居以行人交通安全設施條例部分條文修正草案一支出一件交內診交通 兩委員會審查 宣讀完畢十六 委員邱仲華等鄰居軍人及其家屬優待條例部分條文修正草案一支出一件交外交濟股方委員會審查 宣讀完畢十七 委員廖偉祥等鄰居醫療法第24條及第106條條文修正草案 |
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一是處理監教 社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣傳並不宜通過下案十八 委員六 現行等聯繫教育基本法第二條及第八條條文修正草案一是處理監教 教育及文化委員會審查 宣傳並不宜通過下案十九 委員六 現行等聯繫鐵路法第五十七條條文修正草案 |
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議事會見交交通委員會審查 宣傳完畢第二十 委員廖信祥等邻居公務人員退休自檢服需法第三十七條第三十八條解決六十七條等無休政策案議事會見交交通委員會審查 宣傳完畢會議會第二十案由國民黨團體本案進一步二讀相關提案並按協商請議員會有異議免議本案進一步二讀相關提案並按協商 |
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二十一 委員廖先祥等你去公立學校召集員就修自檢撫恤條例第三十七條 第三十八條及第六十七條條文宣查案依次出現交司法及法治教育及文化聯會會審查宣傳完畢抱怨和二十一案由國民黨團體本案禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商請院會有異議免議本案禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商下議案 |
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二十二 委員廖憲祥的凝聚勞工保險條例一部分兩位修正草案一事處一間交社會福利及温暖環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢二十三 委員廖憲祥的凝聚性別平等工作法第19條及第26條修正草案一事處一間交社會福利及温暖環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢二十四 委員林思敏的凝聚虛擬資產服務法草案一事處一間交財經委員會審查 宣讀完畢 |
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25.委員楊耀德 領據《海岸管理法》第20條條文修正草案 依次處意見交內政委員會審查26.委員楊耀德 領據《中華民國新法》第137條條文修正草案 依次處意見交司法及法制委員會審查 |
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二十七 委員楊佑德理據兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第四十六條條文修正草案一致處理結交社會福利及衛生環境維護審查宣讀完畢二十八 委員楊佑德理據特殊監獄教育服務條例第二條條文修正草案 |
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一支出於建交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢二十九 一支出於建交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢二十九 一支出於建交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢二十九 一支出於建交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢二十九 一支出於建交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢二十九 一支出於建交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢二十九 一支出於建交社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
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無疑通過 下議案無疑通過 下議案無疑通過 下議案 |
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34 委員馬文君等你廢止 終於不提署處事法 議事處一件將會司法及法治教育簡化 兩委員會審查 宣言完畢35 委員徐曉欣等你去入海空軍軍官司官服役條例第39條 條文修正草案 |
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議事處意見交付交集國防委員會審查 宣讀完畢議事處意見交財政委員會審查 宣讀完畢議事處意見交司法及法治委員會審查 宣讀完畢議事處意見交司法及法治委員會審查 |
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歡迎會第38案 由國民黨團體本案禁服二讀與相關提案併案協商 全院會有異歡迎會第39案 國民黨團體禁服二讀與相關提案併案協商 全院會有異 |
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免疫本案 輕復二讀 相關提案 併案 協商下案 |
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無疑通過下案無疑通過下案法院會第四十二案由民進黨團體本案禁覆二讀與相關提案並案協商請院會有異議面與本案禁覆二讀與相關提案並案協商下案 |
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四十三 委員徐富奎等邻居使用排行税法第五條條文修正草案一致處理監交財政委員會審查宣讀完畢四十四 委員徐富奎等邻居其他邻交運法第十三條條文修正草案一致處理監交政務及文化委員會審查宣讀完畢四十五 委員徐富奎等邻居電信管理法第七十六條條文修正草案一致處理監交交通委員會審查宣讀完畢四十六 委員徐富奎等邻居氣象法第二水條之一條文修正草案 |
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一是住一間交交通委員會審查 宣讀完畢二是住一間交交通委員會審查 宣讀完畢二是住一間交交通委員會審查 宣讀完畢二是住一間交交通委員會審查 宣讀完畢二是住一間交交通委員會審查 宣讀完畢二是住一間交交通委員會審查 宣讀完畢二是住一間交交通委員會審查 宣讀完畢二是住一間交交通委員會審查 宣讀完畢二是住一間交交通委員會審查 宣讀完畢 |
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議事主委兼交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢議事主委通過下案議事主委通過下案議事主委通過下案 |
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五一通過下案五一通過下案 |
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委員會審查 宣讀完畢委員會審查 宣讀完畢 |
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五十七 委員羅廷偉等鄰居自然水法第九十七條之一修正草案議事處意見交經濟委員會審查 宣讀完畢五十八 委員羅廷偉等鄰居天然氣水法第五十五條之一條維修正草案議事處意見交經濟委員會審查 宣讀完畢五十九 委員羅廷偉等鄰居電信管理法第七十二條維修正草案議事處意見交交通委員會審查 宣讀完畢六十 委員羅廷偉等鄰居氣象法第二十一條之一條維修正草案 |
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我已通過下案我已通過下案我已通過下案我已通過下案 |
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13219.705 |
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六十四 委員張雅禮的領據 犯罪被害人權業保障法第六十三條及第一百條條文修正查案議事處已經交涉法治法人員會審查 宣讀完畢六十五 委員洪孟凱的領據 貨稅條例第十五條自然條文修正查案議事處已經交涉法治法人員會審查 宣讀完畢官員會第六十五案由國民黨團體本案禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商 求院會有異議免議本案禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商 下議案 |
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六十六 委員紅夢凱等連區電信管理法第七項條條文修正查案議事處一間交交通委員會審查宣傳完畢六十七 委員紅夢凱等連區電信管理法第七項條條文修正查案議事處一間交交通委員會審查宣傳完畢委員通過 下一項 |
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六十八 為鴻孟海等地區香港法第十五條基地六十五條之四條文修正草案一致處理及交交通委員會審查 宣傳完畢六十九 內政部修正消防安全設備檢修消防安全設備檢修專業機構管理一般法第四條第十四條基地十六條條文 |
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13285.843 |
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無異動物修正無異動物修正無異動物修正 |
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| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
13316.882 |
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七十三 內政部修正地政是增長費收費標準 一時注意監教內政委員會 宣布完畢七十三 內政部橫送更正制預售物及新建成屋 買賣契約得到與或轉售期期低點規定 一時注意監教內政委員會 宣布完畢七十四 行政院人事行政總署橫送減送 |
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七十五 外交部修正國際合作發展經濟會修正條例實行前置諸位技術人員照顧辦法第三條條文一四十五 建交外交及國防委員會宣布完畢七十六 國防部修正陸海空軍主管事官志願入營甄選服役規則第三條及第六條條文一四十五 建交外交及國防委員會宣布完畢 |
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13346.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
13370.523 |
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七十七 國防部修正支援士兵選訓實施辦法第四條及第十四條之一條文 議事處一間交外交集國防委員會 宣讀完畢七十八 國防部修正陸海工軍駐軍士官考試技能及獎金標準第四條條文 議事處一間交外交集國防委員會 宣讀完畢七十九 經濟部修正天地工廠申請變更編訂為特定目的 需要用地 選擇辦法第五條及第六條條文 |
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一致注意建交经济委员会 宣传完毕一致注意建交经济委员会 宣传完毕一致注意建交经济委员会 宣传完毕一致注意建交经济委员会 宣传完毕 |
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| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
13424.327 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
八十三 經濟募修正中央管區域盤水設施範圍使用行為 規範收費標準第三條條文一四處一間交通經濟委員會宣布完畢八十四 農業募修正公告美國蒙大拿州自冬季遠行行交情流行性感冒飛去刪除一四處一間交通經濟委員會宣布完畢八十五 農業募修正辦理專政系農業專案單位辦法第五十三條附表一一四處一間交通經濟委員會宣布完畢 |
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13433.373 |
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86.農業部修正公告 加拿大回本課程 自高明遠性加性流行性感冒 非區刪除 一致處理 將進行委員會 宣布完畢88. |
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13438.796 |
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農業部修正公告 美國民進蘇達州 自高明遠性加性流行性感冒 非區刪除 一致處理 將進行委員會 宣布完畢89. |
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13440.157 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
農業部修正農業標識管理辦法 第三條條文 |
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13456.508 |
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13457.989 |
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五一通過宣言五一通過宣言 |
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13491.073 |
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九十一 財政部還從因應國際情勢強化重新發放的前期辦法一致助益建交財政委員會 宣讀完畢九十二 財政部修正財政部國有財政署北區分屬編制表財政部國有財政署中區分屬編制表及財政部國有財政署南區分屬編制表並自114年8月生效 |
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五一通过签订五一通过签订五一通过签订 |
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13515.914 |
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13542.001 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
含2009年香港安全及武漢環境傳播拆解回收國際公約並訂立國際危害物質清單證書及國際傳播拆解回收準備就緒證書議事處一間交交通委員會宣讀完畢96 交通部喊送交通部馬丹欣 葉思虎災害時受災或車輛受損報廢登記為作罪要點並自114年10月7日生效議事處一間交交通委員會宣讀完畢 |
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邦運會本案由國民黨團體改交審查本案交交通委員會審查下一項97 交通部內政務修正道路交通安全規則部分條文集體23條 24條第39條之一附件15 並自114年9月30日實行議事處一間交交通內政兩委員會宣讀為定98 教育部涵授公立學校退休教職員一次退休經濟養老姐夫優惠存款辦法第15條條文更表 |
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一支出一件交涉法制交易箱花財政三務委員會宣讀完畢99 全區部省區部修正全省互合實施辦法一支出一件交涉法制財政兩務委員會宣讀完畢100 |
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衛生福利部修正第一級第二級管制藥品限量合配辦法第二條附表議事處意見交社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣讀完畢101 勞動部修正取得華僑身份商港澳門居民聘務及管理辦法第二條第六條之一及第十條條文議事處意見交社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣讀完畢 |
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102 勞動部交動部修正碼頭裝卸安全衛生設施標準部分條文一致如意間將社會福利及溫暢環境交到兩委員會宣言完畢103 環境部公告自中華民國114年10月22日起至114年11月22日至取得處於暫利用減核之畜牧場可清除處於自所在地環保機關指定之地點為中央主管機關許可及核准之侵略方式 |
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議事處意見交由省委副理會上環境委員會宣讀完畢無異議通過報告院會第104案到158案依序宣讀宣讀之後我們均照議事處意見通過請問院會有異議沒有異議本案開始宣讀宣讀之後通過請宣讀 |
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第104案 制定一五半案為環境部內全部交通部國家發展委員會國家科學階級組委員會國防部內全部涵為中央政府前瞻基礎建設計畫第五期特別預算中央政府因應國際情勢強化經濟社會及民生國安律師特別預算等預算決議分別解送相關報告宣讀完畢 |
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請宣讀質詢事項質詢事項乍行政院答覆部分行政院函送本院翁委員小林等收聽質詢至書面答覆過三件以本院委員質詢部分本院羅委員志強等向行政院提出質詢共五件宣讀完畢 |
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法院會謝依奉委員聲明,對剛才表決與國民黨團意見一致,我們列入公報記錄。法院會甄列報告四項第三十三案更正宣告,本案盡附二讀,由臺灣民眾黨黨團負責召集協商。法院會,我們上午報告四項已經處理完畢。 |
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會議進行到此為止下午兩點至紅樓302會議室我們進行朝野黨團的法案協商下午三點院會繼續開會進行討論事項現在休息 |
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官員會議我們現在繼續開會進行討論事項第一案本院民進黨黨團針對第十一屆第一會期第九次會議報告事項第三十三案院會所作決定提出附議請公決案本案經第一會期第十四會議決議另定其處理現在我們進行處理官員會議依照黨團共識本案不發言 |
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請問院會對民進黨短談所提復議案有無異議請問院會對民進黨短談所提復議案有無異議無異議有異議我們要進行表決我們現在開始按鈴七分鐘並分發表決卡 |
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好 抱怨會 我們現在要開始進行表決請問委員是否都有拿到表決卡都有拿到表決卡我們現在針對民進黨黨團所提復議案要進行表決現在有民進黨黨團要求記名表決我們現在開始進行記名表決時間一分鐘贊成 請按贊成 反對 請按反對現在開始 |
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抱怨會報告表決結果出席98位贊成92位反對2位棄權4位贊成者多數我們現在做以下決議附議案通過本案報告事項另作決定抱怨會我們現在請重新宣讀報告事項請宣讀 |
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33.委員丁學中等領據公立學校教主委退休自檢服務條例第37條條文修正草案前訓委員會建交司法及法制教育及文化兩委員會審查宣讀完畢我們報告事項第33案現在有國民黨團體禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商請問院會有異議請問院會有異議沒有異議沒有異議本案禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商 |
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抱怨會我們進入討論事項第二案本院民進黨黨團針對第十一屆第一會期第十二次會議報告事項第二案第三案第七案第二十二案第二十六案院會所作決定提出復議請公決案本案經第一會期第十三次會議決議另定其處理我們現在進行處理抱怨會依照黨團共識本案不再發言 |
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請問對民進黨所提復議案有無異議無異議我們就通過我們現在依照序重新宣讀報告四項個案請宣讀第二案 |
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二 委員陳雲山等理據公務人員退休自檢復續法第37條第38條及第67條條維修正常案陳修緣會皆交司法及法律委員會審查宣傳編委員陳雲山等理據公立學校召集員退休自檢復續條例 |
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更正 針對第二案 國民黨團有提議淨富二讀與相關提案併案協商請問院會有異議滅議本案淨富二讀與相關提案併案協商宣讀下一案 |
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三 委員陳雲生等理據公立學校教職員退休自選撫恤條例第37.5及第38條條文修正常案陳淑媛會借交司法及法制教育及文化兩委員會審查 宣布完畢委員會報告事項第三案現在由國民黨團體晉副二族與相關提案並案協商請委員會有異議沒有異議本案晉副二族與相關提案並案協商下議案 |
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請委員王宏偉等理據陸海空軍軍官室官服役條例第37條條文修正草案前衆委員會接交外交及國防委員會審查捐願會有意免於通過下案 |
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官員會針對第22案現在由國民黨團體禁服二讀與相關提案並且寫上請問院會有無異議沒有異議本案禁服二讀與相關提案並且寫上下議案 |
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二十六 委員學姓等領據陸海空軍軍官式國安服役條例第39條條文修正常案前修委員會兼交外交及國防委員會審查宣讀完畢無異 通過下一頁關於後我們進入討論事項第三案本院臺灣民眾黨團建請院會作成決議本第四會期 |
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延長會期至115年1月31日至請公決案請議事人員宣讀提案內容 |
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委員 台灣民眾黨黨團有鑒於五國憲法第六十八條規定立法院法定會期應至一百十四年十二月三十一日至然一百十五年度中央政府左邊宣案至今仍陷入朝野僵局既無法附委進行實質審查追究原因乃是行政院違法亂計枉顧憲政體制權力分立之原則所致 |
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行政院竟為依法編列經本院三讀通過之軍人待遇條例及警察員人事條例之相關預算刻意排擠軍人加薪於警消退休金替代率提高等經費目視行政院應遵循職法定義務以嚴重侵蝕法治國治法治根基行政院更濫權宣稱該二法有違憲疑慮以申請憲法法庭釋憲為有刻意延宕 |
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悍然踐踏軍警銷支尊嚴與合法權益台灣民眾黨立法院黨團源於114年10月7日針對115年度中央政府走秀案提出復議案截至114年11月13日為止 |
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行政院皆不願依法追加編列軍人加薪提高警消退休金替代率等預算依未撤回總預算案並待重新編列散開預算後暫行提出有鑒於115年度中央政府總預算案仍尚待立法院審查 |
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未落實對人民承諾與立法院職權不因時間緊迫而為草率審查更要積極捍衛軍警消人員及權力國民之各項權力及福祉重建運算誠信與憲政秩序原廷安建請院會作成決議本第四會期延長會期至115年1月31日止是否有當進行公決宣讀完畢 |
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法院會依照立法院職權行使法第八條第三項規定本案經提案人說明提案子去大體討論之後即議決交付審查或禁付二讀或不予審議法院會依照黨團共事本案提案說明及大體討論均不再發言現在有台灣民眾黨團提禁付二讀依照黨團共事本案就禁付二讀依據立法院職權行使法第七十四條之一規定交付黨團協商 |
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我們現在做以下決議交付黨團協商並由臺灣民眾黨團負責召集協商報應會核心存委員 劉建國委員分別發表聲明對剛才的表決與民進黨黨團意見一致我們列入公報記錄 |
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我們進入討論事項第四案財政收支劃分法部分條文修正草案國民黨團提案經第三會期第二十七次會議決定禁服二讀由國民黨團負責召集協商現在有朝野黨團協商結論請議事人員宣讀協商結論 |
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立法院黨團協商結論時間114年11月14日星期五下午20地點紅樓302會議室決定事項依各黨團同意本第九次會議討論事項第四案至第七案補助型計劃裁劃法修正案及光電三法修正案 |
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院會進行處理時廣泛討論由各黨團各推派一人發言每人發言時間為三分鐘發言必逐條討論時各黨團均不發言並依各黨團版本提出先後進行表決及處理其中環評法先表決執政黨版本取一法案先表決在野黨版本 |
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三讀後各黨團各推派一人發言主持人韓國瑜協商代表柯建民 宗嘉斌 陳培宇傅坤奇 羅志強 林沛翔黃國昌 張祺凱 陳昭芝宣讀完畢委員會本案後續就依照協商結論我們來進行處理現在進行廣泛討論請各黨團首派代表發言每位委員發言時間三分鐘首先請宗嘉斌委員發言傅坤奇委員請準備 |
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主席在場的委員先進財化法再度要惡修在去年胡亂修法造成公視的烏龍錯誤之後今天國民黨黨團再度的提出針對財化法進行完全背離財政紀律常理的修法我們都知道 |
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財政收支劃分法它大概分成三個塊面第一個塊面先處理稅收的部分怎麼分配中央與地方在統籌分配稅在去年的二休當中地方政府已經從中央政府多拿了4165億改變了這個分配比例之後會造成接下來兩個支出的部分首先一般型補助跟計劃型補助 |
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照說統籌分配稅多分給地方地方就應該根據事權的發分自行負擔原來接受中央政府一般型補助跟計畫型補助所需要的額度然而國民黨在上次的二休當中他強烈強制的 |
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不只是從中央的統籌分配稅多拿走了4165億中央少了這一筆錢之後他還要求中央對於各地方政府的一般型補助不得少於修法前的前一年度那這是很荒謬嗎錢已經多給你了原來的一般型補助就是因為過去地方的財政能力較弱他的基本支出中央因為統籌分配稅較多可以來支持各地方政府 |
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現在他們進一步的將另外一個計劃型補助也要求不得低於過去10年的平均水準試想什麼是計劃型補助一般型補助是地方政府因為他的面積人口他的發展條件不同他的負擔能力有差 |
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所以中央予以協助計劃型補助是由中央政府靠手中的統籌分配稅協助各地方政府調計營區像台北市的財政能力很好他不需要太多的計劃型補助中央就應該把這計劃型的補助用來支持其他發展較為落後的地方但是國民黨這次再度提出了二修他強制限制每一個地方政府都不得少於去年的前一年度的水準 |
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這種情況之下造成多者恆多 平者易平這樣子完全背離了中央對地方政府調劑營需的這樣的目的因此這樣的惡修結果在場的國民黨委員你們要知道 |
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這樣的二修結果會繼續獨厚像雙北這樣財政較優等而對這些其他偏遠或相對發展程度較落後的包括離島包括中南部偏遠鄉鎮造成他們沒有辦法來獲得應有的補助所以我們希望國民黨要及時的回頭行政院已經提出了更完整的財政收支方法我們希望那時候我們完整的來檢討 以上 |
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謝謝鍾嘉賓委員的發言接下來我們請傅坤啟委員發言黃珊珊委員請準備謝謝院長在座的各位同仁全國的各位鄉親父老今天由中國國民黨跟 |
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民眾黨共同提出的財化法修正案預計在今天來三讀通過在這裡必須要恭喜全國基層2300萬的同胞因為從今天開始我們真正的落實地方自治保障憲法帶給全國國人的基本權益 |
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過去在賴清德市長陳菊市長蔡英文主席以及柯建民總召再三的呼籲之下希望國家的財務法必須要來修正能夠落實憲法保障地方知識讓地方政府有足夠的資源來照顧全國的鄉親但是非常遺憾的經過了過去的八年民進黨完全沒有作為 |
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而在去年終於由國民黨民眾黨共同協力之下正式把採訪法修正完成讓今年開始我們所有下放的資源從明年115年全國各縣市能夠增加 |
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4100亿的统筹分配款让地方自治能够全面的提升以及相关的基础建设社会福利都能够一步到位所有地方的建设不用再拖到两年三年五年分期来执行能够见及履及地方民众的需求能够立刻的来建设造福我们全国的基层的乡亲 |
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但是在三讀通過以後 民進黨政府卻把4100億法律規定的統籌分配款分給全國各縣市但是把國家長年的計劃性補助卻刪掉了2800億 |
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所以只剩下1300億給地方政府然後再把一般性的補助款再把全國各縣市苛扣一半所以今天我們是在做亡羊補牢如果民進黨政府看不懂什麼叫法律修正案我們今天明確的把它修正完成 |
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各縣市政府被苛扣二分之一的一般性補助款在這次修法完成之後能夠全面的下放給各縣市政府讓地方有能讓人民有權能夠造福全國的百姓鄉親也完成了過去民進黨所提出的這些種種的請求由國民黨民眾黨來完成全國國人的這樣的一個重大的變革 |
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謝謝副分級委員發言接下來我們請最後一位登記的黃珊珊委員請發言 |
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院長還有各位同仁我想今天這個法案非常的重要主要是在去年總預算審議的完畢相關的統算金額必須應該是由行政院在中央各部門在做相關的作檢自行的調整但是行政院做了最壞的示範他們用苛扣地方的一般性補助款來作為他們做的文字遊戲 |
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一年半前我們提出了財化法的修正案一年半後的現在行政院還說他們要提出版本到今天為止沒有看到樓梯響更不見人下來一個這樣的政府對於立法院通過的法案用文字遊戲的方式不得已今天必須要用修法的方式再把它修正回來 |
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民國88年財化法修正的時候就講得非常的清楚中央對地方政府裁員的制度性承諾這筆經費是用來支應教育社福基礎建設人事費用還有財政的平衡 |
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更有部分用於承擔中央政策的地方的負擔部分例如所謂的搬搬有冷氣這些相關的費用都有完整的算式依據也是維繫地方政府正常運作的基本命脈 |
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但是行政院在預算被刪減的情況下把應該在中央政府裡面的預算調整完全去克扣了地方的一般性補助款這是一個非常不負責任的動作行政院有史上最高的預算 |
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就算立法院在刪減相關的預算的時候也斟酌了他們增加的部分所以大部分的部會全部都是預算增加並沒有減少的情況下他們不思節省支出不思去依據所謂必要性跟優先性的原則刪除他們不必要的支出反而去克扣地方性的一般補助款 |
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今天這個法案只是回復原狀希望在立法院原來的意旨裡面應該分配給地方政府的錢一毛都不可以少行政院主計處自己發函給地方政府把原來對地方的承諾改成未分配本來已經要分配給人家的時候看到拿不到這是一個中央政府對於人民的承諾的跳票對於地方自治的忽視對於 |
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一個政府該負責任相關的責任他並沒有尊重而且對於立法院的立法議職完全的忽略我想行政院的做法令人遺憾也是對地方自治的嚴重打擊這次的修法要讓中央政府知道地方自治不容任何的忽視要讓中央政府知道地方政府的預算不可以用這樣的方式 |
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謝謝黃珊三委的發言我們廣泛討論完畢現在我們本案僅宣讀院會所收再修正動議其餘的提案內容我們均列入公報記錄進行處理時我們依序進行表決如果其中有一案通過我們就不再處理其他案我們現在進行逐條討論第30條請宣讀 |
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國民黨黨團再修正動議第30條中央為謀全國之經濟平衡發展就下列事項因補助地方政府因計畫消費涵蓋面廣且具整理性之計畫項目二 跨越指甲式縣市或二以上縣市之建設計畫三 具有示範性作用之重大建設計畫 |
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四因應中央重大政策或建設均由地方政府配合辦理之事項前項樂觀之計畫型補助款因依本法第37條之三且補助比率不得低於過去10年同財力及次限制同類型計畫的平均值 |
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中央政府給予各地方政府之一般性補助款項金額不得少於修正實行前一年度預算核列數中央政府一百十四年度補助各地方政府一般性補助款金額不得少於中央政府於一百十三年八月三十日核列一百十四年度一般性補助款之金額第一項各款補助之辦法由行政院認定之宣讀完畢 |
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我們現在進行表決國民黨所提再修正動議條文現在有民進黨團要求記名表決我們開始進行記名表決時間一分鐘贊成 請按贊成反對 請按反對現在開始 |
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報告表決結果出席109位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數第30條我們照國民黨黨團再修正動議條文通過我們現在進行第32條請宣讀 |
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國民黨黨團再修正動議第32條指向市縣市政府若無下列前行之意者中央不得檢列或檢撥補儲衡一 年度總預算 專家預算與特別預算收支之籌劃編制及共同性費用標準等未依相關法律及行政院定定之中央及地方政府預算籌編原則辦理二 有依法的徵收之參與而不徵收宣讀完畢 |
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我們現在進行第32條的表決國民黨團所提的再修正動議條文現在有民進黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決時間一分鐘贊成 請按贊成 反對 請按反對現在開始 |
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報告表決結果在場為109位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數我們做以下宣告第32條照國民黨黨團再修正動議條文通過我們現在進行增訂第32條之一請宣讀 |
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國民黨黨團再修正統議第32條之一指向市縣市政府若無下列前行之意者重要獲得自以後年度對各該政府補助款中予以扣減部分補助款抵充一 未依本法第37條第二項第三項及相關法律規定負擔應負擔之經費二 未依地方制度法第76條第4項規定支付被代行處理應負擔之費用宣讀完畢 |
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我們現在進行表決國民黨團提議再修正動議條文現在有民進黨團要求記名表決我們開始記名表決投票贊成 暗贊成 反對 請暗反對時間一分鐘 現在開始 |
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宣布表決結果 出席109位 贊成59位 反對50位 贊成者多數我們增訂第32條之1 照國民黨黨團再修正動議條文通過報言會 我們現在進行增訂第37條之2 請宣讀 |
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國民黨黨團在修正動議第37條之二中央未辦理本法第35條之一第二項第37條第四項及地方制度法第71條第二項所規定之事項得究指瑕是與縣市政府施政計畫之執行效能年度算編制或執行情形相關開源節流績效等進行監督級考核並得依考核結果增加或減少當年度或以後年度一般性補儲衡 |
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考核規定由行政院召開地方首長會議共定之宣讀完畢我們現在要進行表決三十七條之二國民黨黨團再修正動議條文現在有民進黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決時間一分鐘暫程按暫程反對請按反對現在開始 |
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向院會報告表決結果出席109位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數我們增訂第37條之二照國民黨黨團再修正動議條文通過會議會我們進入進行增訂第37條之三請宣讀 |
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國民黨黨團再修政動議例37條之三中央對直銷市及縣市政府之計劃型補助款因應財力及次給予不同補助比率除台北市政府列為第一級外其餘直銷市及縣市政府因應最近三年度決算審定數之自由成員比率之平均值為其財力 |
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並依序平均分列 集資如下一 直銷市政府列為第二級至第三級二 縣市政府列為第三級至第五級前項直銷市及縣市政府之財力集資於一 地方制度財政機率異常之控管機制運作期間列為第五級 |
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第一項平均值由行政院主計總數每三年檢討一次第一項補助事項應依下列規定辦理以中央應依第一項規定值財力及次給予不同補助比率且最高補助比率不得超過90% |
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但具離閉性質質環保設施工程與原住民族重要建設計畫及專案報金行政院核准則不在此限二 中央政府各主管機關應與地方政府就補助項目補助比率與計畫評比標準及相關程序等商議訂定處理原則三 經核定後之跨年度及分年度的延續性計畫補助款 |
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延續性計畫性補助款非經地方政府同意不得任意中止或變更補助金額宣布完畢我們現在進行表決國民黨在修正動議條文民進黨團要求記名表決我們開始記名表決時間一分鐘贊成 請按贊成反對 請按反對現在開始 |
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報議會向報告表決結果出席109位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數增訂第37條之3照國民黨黨團再修正動議條文通過報議會現在全案經過二讀現在有國民黨團 臺灣民眾黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有無異議沒有異議我們就請宣讀經過二讀這條文 |
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第三十條 中央為謀全國之經濟平衡發展就下列事項應補助地方政府因計畫效益涵蓋面廣 協助整體性之計畫項目二 公約指向實現式或二以上現實之建設計畫三 具有示範性作用之重大建設計畫 |
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四 因應中央重大政策或建設需由地方政府配合辦理之事項前項各款制計劃行補助衡因依本法第37條之三且補助比率不得低於過去10年同財力及限制同類型計劃的平均值 |
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中央政府給予各地方政府之一般性補助款向金額不得少於修正施行前一年度預算和劣數中央政府114年度補助各地方政府一般性補助款金額不得少於中央政府於113年8月30日核電114年度一般性補助款之金額提向各款補助之辦法由行政院認定之 |
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第32條指瑕是縣市政府若無下列情形之一者中央不得減煉或減薄補儲款依年度總預算追加預算與特別預算收支之籌劃編制其共同性費用標準的 |
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1相關法律及行政院定定之中央及地方政府預算籌編原則辦理2有依法的徵收之殘餘而不徵收第32條之一只想要視縣市政府若無下列情形之一者中央不得自以後年度對該政府補助款中予以扣減部分補助款抵充 |
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一 委一本法第37條第二項第三項及相關法律規定負擔應負擔之經費二 委一地方制度法第76條第四項規定支付被代行處理應負擔之費用第三十七條之二中央衛辦理本法第35條之一第二項第三十七條第四項及地方制度法第71條第二項所規定之事項 |
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等舊指轄市與縣市政府施政計畫之執行效能年度預算編制或執行情形相關開源節流績效等進行監督級考核並得依考核結果增加或減少當年度或以後年度一般性補助款考核規定由行政院召開地方首長會議共定之 |
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第三水棋條之三 中央對直銷市及縣市政府之計劃型補助款應依採利幾次跟與不同補助比率 除台北市政府列為第一級位其餘直銷市及縣市政府應依最近三年度決算審定數之自有成員比率之平均值為其採利 |
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並依序平均分列及次如下一 指轄市政府列為第二級至第三級二 縣市政府列為第三級至第五級前項指轄涉及縣市政府之財力及次於依地方政府財政機率異常之控管機制運作期間列為第五級 |
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第一項平均值由行政院主席總署每三年檢討一次第一項補助事項應依下列規定辦理一 中央應依第一項規定之裁列幾次更與不同補助比率且最高補助比率不得超過90%但具零必性值之環保設施工程與原住民族 |
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重要建設計畫及專案報章結訓核准者不在此限二 中央政府各主管機關應與地方政府就補助項目補助比率與計畫評比標準及相關程序等商議訂定處理原則三 經核定後之跨年度及分年度的延續性計畫性補助款非經地方政府同意不得任意中止或變更補助金額宣讀完畢 |
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委員會三讀條文已經宣讀完畢請問院會有文字修正沒有文字修正的話我們現在有國民黨團依據立法院職權新司法第11條之規定提請將全案負表決我們現在進行全案表決 |
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贊成全案通過者請按贊成反對者請按反對棄權者請按棄權民進黨黨團提出要求記名表決我們開始記名表決時間一分鐘現在開始 |
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向院會報告 |
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全案表決結果出席109位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數全案表決通過我們現在做一下決議財政收支劃分法增訂第32條之1第37條之2及第37條之3條文並將第30條及第32條條文修正通過 |
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現在有民進黨黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決時間一分鐘暫程按暫程反對請按反對現在開始 |
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抱怨會報告表決結果 出席109位 贊成50位 反對59位 贊成者少數我們現在做一下決議 復議案不通過抱怨會 我們現在進行完成立法程序後製發言 每位委員發言兩分鐘首先我們請王洪威委員發言 張祺凱委員請準備 |
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主席和各位同仁我們這次新版財化法的修正主要是因為在我們通盤修正財化法之後中央政府出現亂砍地方補助款 |
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那他以為他修理的是地方的首長但是不是反而是修理廣大人民的權益比如說像我們的計劃型補助款台北市的捷運突然被砍了650億元 |
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新北也被突然砍了72% 90億元而台中捷運藍線在已核定的42億竟然活活被砍了96%只剩下1.68億元而這一次中央政府苛扣亂砍地方的補助款甚至封起來連他們自己人都砍 |
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在高雄市高雄市的捷運也被砍了103億元也就是這樣子的一個不合理的去亂砍地方的補助款其實是修理了 |
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广大的同学还有所有的通勤族拿他们来开刀所以这次我们为什么要提出修正因为除了我刚才讲的计划性补助款之外一般补助款事实上呢是地方他要从事教育社福 |
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基礎建設跟人事費很多地方政府是拿一般補助款譬如他做學生的營養午餐照顧弱勢長照所以我們今天的修正是為了要矯正中央跟強盜一樣隨便的亂砍地方的錢所以我們今天的修正這些條文把 |
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我們的計劃型補助款跟一般補助款讓它變得更穩定停止讓中央搶錢把錢還給地方把錢還給人民謝謝王宏威委員的發言接下來請張其凱委員發言鍾嘉斌委員請準備 |
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今天我們把中央亂砍各地方政府的2646億元救回來了 |
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才化法的修正是為了落實地方自治照顧所有各縣市跟地方的民眾結果明年本來應該中央下放給地方的4165億的統籌分別稅款民進黨竟然無法無天去砍各個縣市政府的補助款 |
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明年應該撥補下去給地方的2954億砍到只剩下308億很多縣市的施政出現嚴重的傷害剛剛講的台北市的捷運竟然被砍了650億 |
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台中市的藍線捷運明年應該撥補下去的錢計劃型補助款61億砍到整項1.6億它是個聯繫性的計劃型的這個工程竟然可以這樣亂砍另外 |
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砍到刀刀劍鼓的計劃型補助款之外他把原來的一般性的這個補助款他都是延續性是法定的預算包括什麼呢教育的這個預算砍了659億這包括各個縣市政府基本的教育的辦公費用營養午餐的錢都被砍了連 |
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最嚴重的輸進跟清預的錢竟然被砍了24億元這段時間颱風災情這麼嚴重經濟部河川局的這個清預的預算竟然減少了10億內政部下水道前砍了14億太無法無天了所以今天我們透過進一步的再次修法我們明定把 |
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這個一般型的補助款這個錢本來是規定不能夠比去年低我們明定各個縣市政府都不能低第二個計劃型的補助款不能低於過去10年的這個水準我們依法把錢救回來了請中央政府行政院跟政府保護人員依法繼續補助把該給中央政府 到國民眾議院撤錢趕快補給中央政府 謝謝 |
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好 謝謝張啟凱委員發言接下來我們請最後一位鍾嘉斌委員請發言 |
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主席在場委員先進國中兩黨一意孤行造成了錯誤未來地方政府將要嘗到了惡果剛剛我們不斷的提醒成儒在去年修改財化法的時候我們提醒他們計算公事財政部主席總說提醒計算公事要謹慎為之現在他們發現錯誤了後悔莫及倉促要來提出修法 |
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同樣的這一次財化法的修法表面上以為是說遏止了中央不能任意的調動地方的分配款事實上從條文的內容我們可以看到所謂的各地方政府各個地方政府包括最有錢的台北市跟相對貧乏的台東縣他們所要獲得的地方補助款都不能少於過去的 |
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數額表面上看起來好像是保障了每一個縣市因貨配的額度但是我們要了解到整個預算規模在成長因此呢這樣的一個過程當中會造成中央沒有辦法將財政較豐餘的縣市對他的一番型補助轉移到更多來支持像台東之類 |
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這些偏遠地區他們所說的挹注表面上看起來是保障的地方事實上是強害了相對弱的縣市也有甚至他們還提出說這些一般型的補助要增加或減少要來跟地方政府商量就好比學生 |
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老師要幫學生打分數要跟學生來討論說這次考試給你80分給你90分你滿不滿意同樣的道理也發生在計劃型補助如果延續性的計劃型補助中央認為已經達成原來計劃型補助的目標居然還要跟地方政府來討論像這樣子的球員變成了裁判完全背離了財政收支劃分法以及我們財政紀律法相關中央對地方政府的考評還有調計營需 |
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如果這樣繼續下去這樣的惡果將在後個年度將會陸續的呈現到時候希望國眾不要後悔莫及又來倉促修法 |
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謝謝鍾嘉賓委員的發言歡迎歡迎我們進入討論事項第五案環境影響評估第三條及第五條條文修正草案本院臺灣民眾黨團提案經第三會期第二十七次會議決定盡附二讀並由臺灣民眾黨黨團負責召集協商另外盧憲一委員等提案經第四會期第九次會議決定盡附二讀與相關提案並按協商 |
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依照剛才所通過的協商結論我們現在進行廣泛討論請各黨團推派代表發言首先請陳昭之委員發言鍾嘉斌委員請準備 |
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主席各位同事丹納斯颱風摧毀了加東離岸型的光電福臺以及引爆子公司下的永新的光電暗場那經濟部向大家宣稱這是個試驗性的計劃但解釋不清楚為什麼計劃中宣稱可以抗十七級風浪的光電福臺卻在十級的中台下從這個屏東一路飄到 |
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澎湖啊那越來越多的國人發現啊光電板的管理也需要完整的通盤檢討也意識到風險預防的這個機制啊長年失靈的光電開發正在蠶食驚吞我們美麗的這個國土啊那我們看到值在哪一方面大力鼓吹開發光電廠卻又疏於全盤性的檢視光電設置區讓台灣滿山遍野的開發 |
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甚至將腦筋動到像是這個烏山頭水庫如此敏感又脆弱本來要被保護的地區難道這些地方都不需要環評嗎那環境部長期不作為代護職守一直到今年的1月才意識到民間反彈嚴重進而修改開發行為應實施環評細目及認定範圍標準第29條第1項第7款它擴大了一點光電系統的環評範圍 |
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但是修正的幅度非常的小不僅水面型的太陽光電系統完全不需要實施環評甚至某一些地面型的光電系統只要經過它的目的主管機關通過認定或是能源主管機關同意者它都可以開發等於是廣開後門那為了避免光電系統一再破壞國土民眾黨團認為我們有必要把光電系統按實施環評的評估的範圍 |
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提升到法律位階所以我們本次在第五條第三章修法加嚴且擴大的範圍包括國家風景區或是淨化地質地質以及山崩及地滑的地質敏感區等應該實施環評那另外參照日本法規設置或累積設置的裝置容量在4萬千瓦以上 |
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或是這個市值累積面積在40公頃以上也要做環評隨便的部分我們更嚴格是1萬千瓦或是5公頃以上但是我們也保留一些彈性排除屋頂型的光電以及自用的面積小於100平方公尺那台灣的光電廠正在走向以逐利為導向的發展模式整個邊岸被視為投資型的一個商品重在資金的操作跟報酬的回收 |
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所以我們認為只有將執法提升到母法才能夠確保這些認定標準不會因為行政團隊的改朝換代而變動台灣民眾黨會繼續堅持我們認為這麼重大的能源開發行為的涉及公立問題要由全民來監督敬請各位同事委員能夠支持我們的提案謝謝謝謝陳昭之委員的發言接下來我們請鍾嘉斌委員發言王育民委員請準備 |
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主席在場原先進關於環境影響評估法第五條的修正草案其實早在去年五月國民黨黨團的王玉明委員就提出了同樣的修法的方向但是很遺憾的 |
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在未完委員會裡面從來不曾討論直到今年的8月29號民眾黨選台去發現水庫光電這一題非常值得推就急急忙忙的淨附二讀跳過委員會的審查以至於包括環境保護團體多元的意見沒辦法被納入來討論結果今天我們看到這個環境黨評估法我們現在念給大家聽 |
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這是說因為目前環保署就是以現在的環境部開發行為應實施環境影響評估細目級範圍認定標準太陽光電僅在國家級濕地開發者才繼續要環評顯然無法確實維護我國的水域空間講得非常的切合我們現在的需要 |
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但是這樣的一個內容表達在修法上應該在第五條增加第十一款在濕地、埤塘、滯洪池、水庫及餘溫整水域空間進行對太陽光電開發的環境影響評估對於這樣的條款內容我們覺得允和目前環境影響評估跟其執法認定標準的一個層次但是這個是王育民委員去年提案的內容 |
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但是很遺憾的民眾黨的選台氣修法什麼叫選台氣現在電視選到哪一台看到什麼議題他就急著推出他們的法案結果提出來的法案荒腔左反把原來認定標準當中直接納入到母法的環境影響評估法 |
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因此民主進步黨黨團負責任的提出了再修正動議用的就是之前王委員去年7月送到未完委員會的版本將這些文字內容著語調整清楚的明白告訴大家除了之前 |
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除了国家及湿地之外我们五种水域都应该分别定定纳入环境养平物的标准包括湿地、皮塘、制红池、民生用水库以及渔温因为这五种不同的水域它的性质、属性、所能容许的开发行为跟必要进行的环境养平物的标准都不相同 |
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這些一旦母法納入的這五項內容其下的執法認定標準都必須由環境部切實的規範然而民眾黨的提案不分青紅皂白一律用一萬千瓦五公頃或者其他的方式總量的方式含不讓那的規範進去將會造成環境的浩劫造成環境影響評估沒有辦法落實執行奉勸國民黨支持這個提案不要跟著 |
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好 謝謝鍾嘉斌委員的發言 謝謝接下來我們請最後一位登記的王玉明委員請發言 |
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主席各位委員大家好首先我謝謝鍾嘉賓委員肯定本席在去年所提出來的環境法的修法環境法的修法去年提出來之後的確我們看到光電的亂象持續存在包括今年我們看到的在高雄的大樹這個河山光電整個散破地完全 |
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的開發光噗噗一片還危害到高雄市民的安全這件事情非常的嚴重而檢調也已經介入在調查我們看到烏山頭水庫也是沒有經過環評這麼大片的水面型光電的開發不用環評而台南市的市民憂心忡忡擔心他們的農業用水民生用水受到污染 |
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在立法院沒有把相關的法令定的規則清清楚楚之前民眾只能焦慮面對光電的亂象毫無處理的能力那作為立法委員如果我們不立法我們也是放任有一些違法的光電業者恣意的開發甚至這當中涉及到的司法弊案從台南的小二甲到現在的高雄的 |
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這個河山光電都充斥著弊案因此立法院有責任我們去立一個更完整的法那我謝謝剛剛鍾嘉斌委員幾度提起我的版本現在民進黨也是採用我去年所提出來的版本但是我們要與時俱進之前我已經觀察到環境部如果我們沒有把一些具體的做法提升到母法的位階 |
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他們是順應了經濟部環境部完全沒有自己把關的能力也就是這樣子今天國眾兩黨最後提出的修正動議我們把各項應該要怎麼做的一個標準 |
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定定的更為清楚特別是關於這個水面型的光電他一定要納入環評這件事情是在這一次的修法裡面一大的進步跟突破所以我們也希望民主進步黨 |
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可以與時俱進我去年提的版本也很好但是現在經過大家的深思熟慮也看到我們現在光電的亂象我們的確有必要就是把相關的規定更具體化而不是授權給行政部門再去訂定所以我們也希望這個民主進步黨 |
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支持民主進步的原則跟著國民黨跟民眾黨我們再提出的修正動議的確是最先進的版本也最能保護我們環境的版本請民主進步黨一起共同來支持守護環境謝謝 |
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好 謝謝王育民委員的花言 謝謝後院會廣泛討論已經完畢我們現在進行處理本案及宣讀院會所收再修正動議需提案內容我們均列入公報記錄現在進行逐條討論第三條請宣讀台灣民眾黨黨團 國民黨黨團共同所提再修正動議第三條不予修正維持現行條文宣讀完畢 |
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请问对于维持现行条文有无意义?没有意义?好,我们第三条就维持现行条文。我们现在进行第五条,请宣读。 |
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台湾民众党党团 国民党党团共同所提在书政动议第五条下列开发行为对环境有不良影响之余者应实施环境影响评估一 工厂之设立及工业区之开发二 道路铁路大众给予系统港湾及机场之开发三 土石采取及碳矿采矿四 蓄水供水防洪排水工程之开发 |
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五 農林漁牧地之開發利用六 遊樂風景區高爾夫球場及運動場地之開發七 文教醫療建設之開發八 新市區建設及高樓建築或舊市區更新九 環境保護工程之興建十 核能及其他能源之開發及放射性核廢料儲存或處理場所之興建十一 其他經中央主管機關公告者 |
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前項開發行為應實施環境影響評估者其認定標準細目及環境影響評估作業準則由中央主管經貿會商有關機關於本法公佈實行後一年內定之送立法院備查設置太陽光電發電系統符合下列規定之一者應實施環境影響評估 |
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一 位於國家風景區或經劃定之地質以及地質敏感區山崩與滌滑地質敏感區二 位於野生動物保護區或野生動物重要棲息環境三 位於重要濕地四 位於台灣沿海地區自然環境保護計畫核定公告之自然保護區五 位於特定農業區之農業用地 |
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六 位於政府核定補助或獎勵實施造林之土地屬國有土地公有土地國營事業土地或公營事業土地者其位於山坡地設置或累積設置裝置容量一萬千瓦以上或設置或累積設置面積五公頃以上八 設置水面型太陽光電系統且設置或累積設置裝置容量一萬千瓦以上或設置或累積設置面積五公頃以上 |
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9.設置或累積設置裝置容量4萬千瓦以上或設置或累積設置面積40公頃以上10. |
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第七款之第九款之申請設置太陽光發電系統符合下列規定之一其申請設置或累積設置面積應合併計算且達該款規定規模1. |
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申請設置或累積設置用地位於同一筆地號 |
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二 申請設置或累積設置用地之地號互相連接或僅間隔道路 渠道 盤水路等公共設施三 申請設置或累積設置用地邊界相隔水平距離在20公尺範圍內 |
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前向太陽光電發電系統不含下列前行一 屋頂型太陽光電發電系統二 屬其他開發行為之附屬設施且經各目的事業主管機關確認之太陽光電發電系統三 設置面積100平方公尺以下且供自用之太陽光電發電系統 |
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民進黨黨團再修正動議第五條夏天開發行為對環境有不良影響之餘者應實施環境影響評估一工廠設立及工業區域開發二道路鐵路大眾捷運系統港灣及機場之開發三土石採取及探礦採礦四蓄水供水防洪排水工程之開發五 |
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农林渔牧地之开发利用六 游乐风景区包围浮球场及运动场地之开发七 文教医疗建设之开发八 新市区建设及高楼建筑或旧市区更新九 环境保护工程之新建十 核能及其他能源之开放及放射性和废料储存或处理场所之新建十一 雨湿地皮塘 |
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至弘地 民生用水庫及餘溫等水域空間進行太陽光電發電系統之開發十二其搭經中央主管機關公告者其向開發行為應實施環境影響評估者其認定標準 羨慕及環境影響評估作業準則由中央主管機關 會商有關機關與本法公佈施行後一年內定之送立法院被查宣讀完畢 |
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拜會依照協商結論我們開始表決先進行處理民進黨黨團再修正動議條文我們要開始進行表決我們要贊成民進黨黨團再修正動議條文請按贊成反對請按反對民進黨黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決時間一分鐘現在開始 |
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向院會報告 表決結果出席108位 贊成50位 反對58位 贊成者少數民進黨黨團再修正動議條文 不通過 |
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我們現在表決臺灣民眾黨團 國民黨團共同所提再修正動議條文現在有民進黨團 臺灣民眾黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決 時間一分鐘暫時暫時暫時反對 暫時反對現在開始 |
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報告院會報告表決結果出席107位贊成59位反對48位贊成者多數我們第五條照臺灣民眾黨團國民黨團共同所提在修正動議條文通過現在全案已經經過二讀現在由臺灣民眾黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有無異議 |
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請問院會有無異議有異議我們要進行表決我們現在進行表決針對臺灣民眾黨團所提議繼續進行刪讀現在民進黨團要求記名表決我們現在開始記名表決贊成臺灣民眾黨團所提議繼續進行刪讀請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
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向院會報告表決結果出席106位贊成59位反對47位贊成者多數我們本案繼續進行三讀請宣讀經過二讀這條文 |
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第五條 下列開發行為對環境有不良影響之餘者 應實施環境影響評估一 工廠之設立及工業區域開發二 道路鐵路大眾捷運系統 港灣及機場之開發三 土石採取及探礦採礦四 蓄水供水防洪盤水工程之開發 |
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五 農林漁牧地之開發利用六 遊樂風景區高爾夫球場及運動場地之開發七 文教醫療建設之開發八 新市區建設及高樓建築或舊市區更新九 環境保護工程之興建十 核能及其他能源之開發及放射性核廢料儲存或處理場所之興建十一 其他新中央主管機關公告者 |
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前項開發行為應實施環境影響評估者其認定標準心目及環境影響評估作業準則由中央主管機關會商有關機關與本法公佈施行後一年內定之送立法院備查 |
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設置太陽光電發電系統符合下列規定之一者應實施環境想評估一 位於國家風景區或經劃定之地質以及地質敏感區山崩與地滑地質敏感區二 位於野生動物保護區或野生動物重要棲息環境三 位於重要濕地 |
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四 位于台湾沿海地区自然环境保护计划核定公告之自然保护区五 位于特定农业区之农业用地六 位于政府核定补助或奖励实施造林之土地属国有土地 公有土地 国营事业土地或公营事业土地者七 位于山坡地设置或累积设置装置容量1万千万以上 |
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或設置或累積設置面積五公頃以上八 設置水面型太陽光電系統且設置或累積設置裝置容量一萬千瓦以上或設置或累積設置面積五公頃以上九 設置或累積設置裝置容量四萬千瓦以上或設置或累積設置面積四十公頃以上 |
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使第七款至第九款之申請設置太陽光電放電系統符合下列規定之一其申請設置或累積設置之面積應合必計算且達該款規定規模一 申請設置或累積設置用地位於同一筆地號二 申請設置或累積設置用地之地號互相連接或僅間隔道路 渠道 盤旋路等公共設施 |
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三 申請設置或累積設置用地邊界相隔水平距離在20公尺範圍內前廂太陽光電發電系統不含下列情形一 屋頂型太陽光電發電系統二 屬其他開發行為之附屬設施且經各目的事業主管機關確認之太陽光電發電系統三 設置面積100平方公尺以下且供自用之太陽光電發電系統 |
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宣讀完畢請問院會有文字修正沒有文字修正現在由臺灣民眾黨團依據立法院職權新釋法第十一條規定提請將全案複表決我們現在進行全案表決贊成全案通過者請按贊成反對者請按反對棄權者請按棄權 |
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民進黨團跟台灣民眾黨團要求記名表決我們開始記名表決贊成台灣民眾黨黨團所提議請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
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下院會報告表決結果出席107位贊成59位反對48位贊成者多數全案表決通過我們現在做以下決議環境影響評估法第五條條文修正通過外會本院黃國昌委員等人針對本案三讀之決議提出附議 |
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並請院會隨即進行表決處理報告院會 我們現在進行處理本件 附議案現在進行表決針對黃國昌委員等人所提附議案現在有民進黨團 臺灣民眾黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決時間一分鐘現在開始 |
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好 我们时间暂停表军心没办法使用 现在可以了吧好 我们继续 |
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向院会报告,表决结果出席107位,赞成48位,反对59位,赞成者少数,复议案不通过。现在处理院会所收台湾民众党团所提出附带决议一项,请议事人员宣读附带决议之内容。 |
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臺灣民眾黨黨團附帶決議要求內政部國家公園屬於本法修正通過後不得援引國家公園法第十四條第一項第十款同意設置地面型或水面型太陽光電發電系統以落實行政部門對國會之承諾並回應國人對國家公園生態與景觀保護之期待宣讀完畢 |
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請問院會有無異議請問院會有無異議沒有異議我們就決定照案通過我們現在進行完成立法程序後之發言首先我們請陳培宇委員發言王育民委員請準備 |
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好謝謝主席我要說我非常遺憾的看到今天竟然會修法三讀通過我要說在政府推動再生能源的過程當中有非常多政客惡意的散播錯假的訊息甚至造謠這些事情我們都一一看見而這些造謠都只是為了創造人民對於綠能的恐懼用非常多資訊落差造成人民對綠能的誤解 |
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我要說這是阻卻國家往前走最糟糕最糟糕的一股力量我要說有弊案要查就查就像我現在前面這張手板相當多的弊案都是在查查的過程當中我們看到有人利用不法的資訊落差創造自己的利潤我要說該查就查該辦就辦 |
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但不該因為相關個案就阻卻率能往前進這是最糟糕最糟糕今天令人看到最遺憾的修法事實上今年1月環境部已經修改相關環評認定標準把今天所有在野黨委員在意的國家公園 |
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野生動物保護區特定農業區重要濕地等敏感區域都已經納入需要環評的範圍根本不是你們所說的不需要環評綠能環評本來就需要修法本來就需要討論本來就需要與時俱進但你們不願意讓它留在執法放在母法相關的彈性變得非常的匱乏而像修法的機制到底是幫助綠能 |
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還是阻卻綠能到底是幫助台灣完成能源韌性還是阻卻台灣完成能源韌性我相信大家看得非常非常的清楚我要說現在全世界都在往再生能源往綠能推進台灣大家所熟悉的公司不論是台積電 聯電或者是每天大家都在用的三大電信都是RE100承諾的企業 |
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他們都希望在2050年以前可以全面完成綠能但很可惜今天在野黨的修法阻卻這些企業完成對綠能對全世界承諾我要說非常的遺憾 |
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主席全國的民眾大家好今天很高興看到環評法第五條在國民黨跟民眾黨的合作底下順利的完成修法國民黨我們支持綠能的發展但是我們絕對不支持破壞環境而發展出來的綠能如果已經破壞環境那就不叫做綠能 |
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所以今天的環評法的修法我們只是把各項的應該規範的要件把原來的執法提升到母法的位階如果民進黨真的是支持這樣子應該不用反對另外的部分是更嚴格的去限制了這一些相關水面型的光電 |
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你的開發面積你達到一定的規模山坡地跟水面型光電你的設置容量在一萬千瓦以上或設置累積面積達到五公頃以上你就應該要還平如果大家相信我們環境部所設置的還平的制度應該要相信 |
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他是以把關環境永續為條件絕對不是民進黨所說阻礙綠能的發展所以為了綠能的發展可以永續更應該要支持必須經過環評所以今天這樣的立法其實更是確保我們的環境永續跟綠能的發展可以共創雙贏這個是非常重要的重點 |
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最後我想提出來民進黨所設定的綠能發展目標20GW看起來是做不到的做不到沒有關係可以尋求替代能源而現在核能還是一個可以選擇的選項所以不要犧牲我們的環境來發展綠電我想這是現在全民的共識 以上謝謝 |
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好,謝謝王玉銘委的發言,謝謝。我們接下來最後一位,劉書斌委員,請發言。 |
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主席 各位同仁先進今天環境影響評估法第五條的修訂代表的是民眾黨對於能源轉型跟綠能發展的支持但在發展期間不能夠犧牲我們農漁民的權益還有對於環境的珍貴山林的保護 |
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這次修法的重點的是針對國家風景區或者是特定的地質敏感區山坡地的如果設置水面的光電設施或是地面設施的時候都必須要先做環評第二 |
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對於以光電設施為例在一定的累積設置的容量一萬千瓦或者是面積達到五公頃以上的時候他必須要符合一定的規格距離來保護環境 |
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這樣的一個細節呢最重要的是要在設置之前就必須要做環評才能在事前就保護環境而不是發生的事情例如在丹納斯採風的期間看到的光電板成為一個最大破壞環境者讓山光海野光另外我們還看到的是現在的RE100已經不能夠符合現在的國際的趨勢了 |
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最重要的是非碳電力因為凝靈碳排才是最重要的對於世界在面對氣候變遷當中最重要的責任現在還在COVAX 30的開業期間請大家繼續支持繼續留意這個發展 |
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因此感謝這次的修法通過了在整個期間當中所關注的人們們我們也給予最大的一個支持希望大家一起來支持台灣的永續環境謝謝 |
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謝謝劉淑彬委員的發言報告委員會我們進入討論事項第六案發展觀光條例第十一條條文修正草案本院臺灣民眾黨黨團提案經第四會期第三次會議決定進复二讀 |
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并由台湾民众党党团负责召集协商另外本院陈金威委员等提案经第四会期第八次会议决定进复二读与相关提案并按协商以方才通过协商结论我们现在进行广泛讨论现在请各党团推派的代表发言首先我们请谢龙介委员发言张祺凯委员请准备 |
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因為台灣的鄉親是大台灣三角的改變面對關稅的挑戰非常困難但是我們的關公可以做得更好過去民進黨跟我們說沒有親是孫沒有親是海沒有親是河沒有親是兩地 |
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沒錢是正義為了太陽能過上高潔我們的倫敵沒了我們的正義沒了我們的沒錢已經遍體臨床為了錢沒小一切放棄就沒錢一隻穿著我們大汗的沒錢他的名字叫做台灣 |
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最大的壞事就要留好山好水 但是不好心水觀光客要來 別說大陸客不來趁大陸我們這裡好朋友來看著遍地的太陽臨盤看著我們台灣在我們的無親的卡車旁邊搭到一地一地的沙崙髮塞去到鎖定大飯店 |
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看著水口都中太陽臨盤 看著山平 天空頭 也是太陽臨盤去到海邊 借鎮 看海洋 也是看著太陽臨盤尤其我們的水口 尤其我們的小海浪 美麗的邊界線 都中了 |
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大片大片的太陽營掩蓋在外雙高潔全世界太陽營的發展一度平均一倍我們台灣的太陽營一度五倍這麼好賺這麼好吃都不怕要吃這麼小的排名所以今天在這條條例我們重新來審視對著這個無親台大的聽眾 |
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希望大家可以發揮我們的良知 |
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發揮到我們的正義真真正正 把這不公不義的太陽林廢掉我們台灣有能力 讓台電來取得 個人資料還有幾十萬公頃經過好好的平心 我相信台灣的太陽林一定一度可以降到兩顆半以下這時候我們台灣有競爭力 我們的生活通費碰撞壓力要降低 |
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| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
各位同仁 望著你的領地 憑著我們的正義 大家作為的基礎謝謝謝榮健委員的發言接下來請張其凱委員發言 鍾嘉斌委員請準備 |
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我們美麗寶島台灣有13個地方是很有名很漂亮的國家籍風景特定區從東北角北海岸到山山國家公園雲嘉嵐濱海一直到大鵬灣國家公園馬姑現在在很多的風景區內出現了黑色的小補丁一塊一塊破壞了我們的環境跟生態 |
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尤其在人家人比較會過鄉自己部隊到新聞到旁邊台南的這個報名七個 |
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| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
這是台灣非常非常有名的餘溫文化 鹽田文化甚至有很多非常寶貴的鳥類都來這邊棲息包括黑面皮鹿可是最近這幾年因為太陽能光電的入侵嚴重破壞了這嚴重的景觀連黑面皮鹿有時候都不來了 |
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連大家想去看的黑富豔歐瑞典的九層只剩下一層北門啊一帶那個賞鳥的人潮啊說少了一大半以上一直往南邊走去到屏東新設的這個洛杉磅風景特徑區裡面佈滿了光電板要往墾丁國家公園走的平和公路沿線光電山期待著原有的這個綠地 |
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在上次丹納斯風災的時候 屏東啊 宗嘉濱的故鄉屏東的光電板 飄到澎湖 洋澳的故鄉去了在中華 張濱公園區美麗的這個朝間帶竟然在上個禮拜起火了大家知道那面積有多廣 |
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超過160公頃那個無人機上去空拍飛出去再回來半個小時竟然發生火災了我的辦公室一追他旁邊有兩個暗藏竟然是前幾年發生火災了台南烏山頭水庫的這個 |
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光電板到底怎麼清洗的引起人民非常多的擔心所以為了守護我們美麗的台灣守護我們的風景區台灣民眾黨今天提出 |
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13個國家級的風景特定區以後不可以設地面型或者是水上型的太陽能光墊你如果要設例外就是一定要經過環評而且面積不能夠超過一公頃就是一定要在一公頃以下另外 |
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沒有限制的是如果你是屋頂型的或者你設置的時候是在100平方公尺就所謂大概33平而且是自用我們是開放請我們大家共台守護美麗的臺灣守護我們所有特定的風景區謝謝大家好謝謝張祺凱委員的發言接下來請最後一位登記鍾嘉斌委員請發言 |
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主席在場的委員先進我們今天在討論的是對風景區是不是要進行環境影響評估如果是的話那麼就在環境影響評估法裡面來修訂那目前有沒有呢有的就在環境影響評估法第五條風景區裡面的開發行為就要進行環評那為什麼要在發展觀光條例裡面去訂定呢 |
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大家知不知道發展觀光條例是為了什麼而存在它是為了發展觀光而存在但是發展觀光這些進入的油氣的人潮會不會相對的對這些觀光資源造成了破壞以至於它不能永續經營這當然要予以規範 |
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所以發展觀光條例當中他就對於觀光資源的保育跟永續他去做了一些規定主要是針對油氣的行為譬如說旅客的數量住宿的容量這些就像你要去墾丁國家公園我們的觀光資源是梅花路太多人去會造成這梅花路被打擾所以規範的是什麼 |
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規範的是油氣的行為而非土地的開發行為所以我們要很清楚地去理解發展觀光條例的對象客體是屬於油氣行為本身必須加以管理 |
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但是不是像光電板這種所謂的開發行為固定的設施不是發展觀光條例所要作用的對象所以剛剛又說過了民眾黨的修法呢剛剛說是選台氣的修法 |
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看到了現在電視台在播什麼新聞他就去找出跟他相關的法令看到的水庫光電水庫位於風景區所以風景區的光電要進行環評如果要這樣子其實環境影響評估法裡面就寫啊 |
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就風景需要進行環評的規定啊那為什麼不在環評法去規定要來發展觀光條例去規定呢所以我們在這裡一而再 再而再的說這樣的條文的內容方向我們支持放入環境獎評估法跟它底下的認定標準但不要搞錯方向放到了發展觀光條例來再度強調一次發展觀光條例基於保護觀光資源永續發展 |
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他强调的是对于油气的行为进行总量的管制过夜的人数进入到风景区里面的人数的总量管制那么你不去管这些你去管风景区里面的水库还是什么地方有没有光电板很好 |
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回到環境影響評估法來列管所以我們再度的要來狠一看的這樣的條文內容本質上是可以放在環評法的但是當你放在發展觀光條例裡面就會讓交通部覺得到底你這樣的法的作用目的跟我們限制管理油氣人數有什麼關聯請三思不要搞錯修法的對象 |
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好 謝謝宗嘉賓委員的發言廣泛討論完畢報議會本案請宣讀院會所收再修正動議其餘的提案內容均列入公報記錄現在進行逐條討論第十一條請宣讀 |
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臺灣民眾黨黨團 國民黨黨團共同提案在修正動議第11條風景特地區計畫因依據中央主管機關會同有關機關做地區特性及功能所作之評鑑結果予以綜合規劃前項計畫之理定及核定除應先會商主管機關為 |
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西医都市计划法是规定办理风景特定区应按其地区特性及功能划分为国家级、主乡市级及县市级国家级风景特定区不得设置地面型或水面型太阳光电放电系统但经环境影响评估审查通过 |
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且設置或累積設置面積1公頃以下者不在此限前廂太陽光電發電系統不含屋頂型或設置面積100平方公尺以下其供自用之太陽光電發電系統宣讀完畢 |
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臺灣民眾黨團 國民黨團共同所提再修正動議條文現在有民進黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決贊成 請按贊成反對 請按反對時間一分鐘 現在開始 |
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向院會報告表決結果出席107位贊成59位反對48位贊成者多數第11條到臺灣民眾黨黨團國民黨黨團共同所提再修正動議條文通過宣案已經經過二讀現在由臺灣民眾黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有無異議 |
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請問院會有異議沒有異議我們就宣讀經過二讀這條文第十一條風景特地區計畫因依據中央主管機關會商會同有關機關就地區特性及功能所作之評鑑結果予以綜合規劃前項計畫順理定及核定除應先會商主管機關外新一都市計畫法執規力辦理 |
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風景特定區 陰暗及地區特性及功能劃分為國家級 直轄市級及縣市級國家級風景特定區不能設置地面型或水面型太陽光電發電系統擔心環境影響評估審查通過 |
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且設置或累積設置面積一公頃以下者不在此限且像太陽光電發電系統富含屋頂型或設置面積一百平方公尺以下且供自用之太陽光電發電系統宣傳完畢 |
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我們現在進行全案表決贊成全案通過者請按贊成反對者請按反對棄權者請按棄權民進黨黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決時間一分鐘現在開始 |
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向院會報告,表決結果出席106位,贊成58位,反對48位,贊成者多數,全案表決通過。我們現在做以下決議。發展觀光條例第11條條文,修正通過。法院會本院、黃國參委員等針對本案三讀之決議,提出附議。 |
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並請院會隨即表決處理幫院會 我們現在來進行處理本件 附議案現在進行表決針對黃國昌委員所提附議案現在由民進黨黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決時間一分鐘 現在開始 |
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向院會報告表決結果,出席106位,贊成48位,反對58位,贊成者少數,復議案不通過。歡迎我們進行完成立法程序後之發言。首先,請張祺凱委員發言,林月琴委員請準備。 |
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大家現在看到這一張觸目清新的照片就是高雄市大樹區樹被拔光 山被鏟平的光電弊案 連檢調都進去查了本來昌裕的樹木很好的山 |
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被光電業者把它產平在發生颱風還有刮風下雨的時候土石流跟水泥衝進了民宅這就是現在台灣美麗的環境受到了光電的一個迫害 |
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而且不是只有山野光電板海野光電板連滋洪池水庫都出現了光電弊案民眾有非常多的擔心所以台灣民眾黨今天提出的環評法也提出了對於特定風景區要求要保護美麗的這個台灣我們明定 |
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明定山坡地以後如果要設置光電板你的裝置容量只要超過1萬千瓦以上或者是你累計設置的面積超過5公頃你就要做環評水面型的太陽能光電也是一樣的剛剛中嘉賓中委民進黨團終於良心發現了他們認為水上型的包括自動池水庫也要環評 |
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就請支持台灣民眾黨的版本全部都可以解決問題今天台灣民眾黨尋求的是能源轉型不能夠犧牲環境保護修法完善以後可以得到三贏包括環境贏了善良的農漁民也贏了然後正派的光電業者也贏了美麗的台灣希望我們共同來守護也希望包括民進黨既然你們都 |
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謝謝謝謝張祺凱委員的發言接下來請林月琴委員發言謝榮介委員請準備 |
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談到國家風景區的議題我們也要把事實來講清楚那國家風景區的設置目的事實上是為了觀光並不是天然敏感區的代名詞因此風景區並非全面跟再生能源開發是衝突的 |
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我國風景區幅員廣大各類土地使用狀況差異非常的大不能一概而論以雲嘉南風景區為例它的面積高達87802公頃裡面包括餘溫 農地 聚酪 |
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公有地以及一般使用區並不是每一塊土地都有高度的生態敏感性如果僅僅因為名稱是風景區就全面禁止再生能源的設置這樣的政策不但過度粗糙也跟地方實際狀況完全脫節我們在討論綠能的時候最重要的不是用名稱去決定能不能做而是看實際土地的狀況 |
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真正的敏感的地方要保護 |
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但不是所有的風景區的每一吋土地都應該被視為不能碰的禁地回到能源轉型的大方向我們當然要尊重在地環境也要避免任何破壞自然的開發但同時我們也必須避免一刀切的管制讓真正安全 低衝擊甚至未來就已經人工化的地區因為錯誤的分類而被全面阻擋 |
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這會拖垮國家的再生能源進度 |
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讓本來可以協助減碳提升能源自主的廠子被白白戳殺再生能源不是單一部會的政策而是攸關國家能源自主產業競爭力跟氣候韌性的基礎建設全球供應鏈都在要求減碳要求綠能產業需要綠電國家未來也需要綠電能源發展型不能只靠口號 |
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更不能因為分類錯誤就被迫停擺因此我們真正需要的是精準管理該保護的地方要嚴格保護可以發展的地方就應該讓它在規範之下穩健推進只有在環境保護跟能源需求之間取得務實的平衡台灣的能源轉型才能走得穩走得長也走得負責任 |
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謝謝林月琴委員的發言接下來我們請最後一位謝龍介委員請發言在我們南台灣西南亞國家的風景下過去二十年來我們的國家開幾百億 |
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把這個無親台地整得水燈燈最近這五年來為了看最高級的太陽燈補給一天五個人的門燈更燈有夠難看 |
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今天通過這個條例 要的福 真的要的福我們希望這個冠雄高級的太陽營業者也照顧好自己整個立法院都有在幫你們注意賺錢要有責任 工作要知道出資優德全世界一度扣本 你賺一度五扣 你都不敢扣 |
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但是條例的通過 表示臺灣要有救 立法院要有正義 立法院要有良知在這麼多年 你覺得整個嘉南平原 能夠立作國家風景庫每一年政府關注到三二十月 二三十月不定的金額 已經有二十年了 |
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結果,簡單一個世賓六十一歲,沿海一天過寶地,看了一塊地,一片瀏覽,當中是太陽明。所以南台灣的鄉親非常心疼。今天這個條例通過,今天這個標語通過,鄉親就靠電回來,說感謝你歡迎,還有這個正義。 |
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感謝立法院的捍衛未來我們還可以吃三百魚要不然整個太陽林蓋著都不怕嚴重現在你要找我們來吃三百魚就困難了在這裡 除了對立法院感謝以外這裡鄉親的願望不是海賓 不是國家公民所有不正統 不正義的太陽林我們都要給它回答 |
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臺灣如果真的相信專業 立法院如果大家可以共同在內討論我向大家保證 我們臺灣可以發展出2.5億的太陽能這樣臺灣的電力競爭力就有了 |
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台灣的民生生活碰到的壓力就沒有了這才是真真正正 帝國的良風美情 請聽聽我知道你對這裡太陽營的查拉布 非常痛心查告帝 檢調一定要查告帝 給他一案就賭你九十億 看喔 |
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謝謝謝榮健委員的發言報議會 我們進入討論事項第七案地質法第五條條文修正草案報議會 臺灣民眾黨團提案經第四會期 第三會期 |
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第三次會議決定晉夫二讀由臺灣民眾黨團負責召集協商陳金威委員等提案經第四會議及第八次會議決定我們晉夫二讀與相關提案並按協商依照剛才通過朝野協商結論現在進行廣泛討論請各黨團推派代表發言首先請鍾嘉斌委員發言陳金威委員請準備 |
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主席在場為您先行我們今天看到了國民黨盲目隨從民眾黨做選台氣修法現在我們看到的叫做關鍵字修法什麼叫關鍵字修法環評法當中有所謂的風景區重要失地有看到地質敏感地區看到這幾個關鍵字馬上去搜尋還出現在哪些法 |
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哇出現在地質法請問一下大家知道地質法的作用是什麼嗎舉個例來說如果你今天要下海游泳這個海域有沒有水母有沒有鯊魚有沒有暗流有沒有漩渦要先做好那個環境的調查你才能夠評估你的安全裝備足不足夠地質法就是這個目的地質法針對這些地質結構 |
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可能具有不穩定不安全的地方要求在上面活動的人所有的行為必須要先做地質專探並且進行安全評估他所要保護的客體是在地質上活動的這些行為而不是那個環境 |
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因此呢 地質法當中我們看到的所謂的敏感地區有沒有 有在環評法當中 敏感地區像什麼呢像特殊的地質景觀 像地下水補助區像我們所謂的地質災害地區像高雄的越世界它是在環境影響評估當中屬於地質景觀要保護的地方在那裡的開發行為要進行環境影響評估但是不是規範在地質法 |
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是規範在哪裡環境影響評估法所以今天民眾黨搞的烏龍修法國民黨跟著亂亂跑應該放在環境影響評估的你放在發展觀光條例 |
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應該放在環境影響評估的你放在地質法就因為你們的助理幫你們提供的叫做關鍵字索引修法只要出現到這個關鍵字索引法含不上任何的不管它原來的作用通通拿來修 |
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結果會造成什麼情況會造成掛一漏萬你以為是舉一反三是掛一漏萬像現在規定在地質法當中地質法通偏沒有這些限制開發的行為只有要求要介入的地質評估跟調查內容 |
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結果你要求這些光電的內容啊你還很好心你說如果是私人的屋頂的只要不超過100平方米就不需要做環境量評估各位屋頂上100平方米一個月20度啊 |
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20度的電只要在你所謂的地質地區你就要限制他不能在家裡裝光電板不能來使用他們家裡他的再生能源這樣的烏龍修法今天一而再再而三的出現我們認真的呼籲國民黨不要跟著民眾黨做選台氣修法不要跟著做關鍵制的修法好 謝謝鍾嘉賓委員的發言接下來我們請陳金威委員發言黃國昌委員請準備 |
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主席各位委員今天我們等等表決的是一個非常簡單的基本常識所有人都支持綠能但是我們反對失序的綠能我們反對為了光電賠上我們的環境水資源甚至是人民的財產生命安全 |
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過去這段時間剛大家都看到照片了光電板鋪天蓋地從農田鋪到漁溫從山坡鋪到水庫現在連國家最脆弱的地質敏感區都有人想要動歪腦筋所以我們提案修正地質法就是要用白紙黑字畫下這一條安全的防線 |
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老實說在提案的時候我沒有想到需要花這麼大的力氣我以為不在山崩地滑區開發是常識我以為不在活動斷層上施工是常識 |
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我以為不把地下水補助區堵死是常識沒想到這些理所當然的基本知識竟然還需要我們大費周章大聲疾呼甚至還要動用表決來守護各位我們等等保護的是什麼樣的地方第一是人命關天的區域是山邊的脆弱坡地在這些地方打樁開發是在製造災難 |
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第二是立即危險的區域斷層帶把光電設施蓋在地表的活動剪刀口根本就是拿人民的公共安全開玩笑第三是區域水資源的命脈我們賴以為生的地下水庫 |
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我們用機裝水泥把它封死結果就是大雨必淹 大旱無水第四是不可再生的天然資產也是保護珍貴的地質遺產一旦破壞就永遠消失了 |
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各位親愛的委員這不是反綠能這是要安全這不是政治問題這是最基本的常識問題合理發展光電可以但是失序的光電我們已經夠了等等請大家共同按下贊成通過地質法的修正案讓我們為國土保安為人民安全 |
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守護這最基本也最重要的一道防線謝謝大家好 謝謝陳經緯委員的發言接下來請登記最後一位黃國昌委員請發言 |
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院長 本院委員剛剛仔細的聆聽執政黨的委員說他們要在環境的保護跟綠能的發展取得最好的平衡點他們說不要用法律強制的規定要我們信任行政機關行政機關會把關好會與時俱進會做好調整我們看到的是什麼 |
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從2016年一直到今年年初環境影響評估針對光電設施的開發件數是零件為什麼是零件一件都不用做因為民進黨要求我們相信的行政機關說光電開發免環評完全不需要環評 |
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結果是什麼我們看到高雄的山坡地屏東通往墾丁國家公園的山坡地長成這個樣子這不是違法偷偷的哇這不是違法偷偷的哇這是從中央政府內政部經濟部 |
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環保署以及地方政府全部都同意每一個章都蓋了蓋完了以後長成這個樣子這是哪門子的環境保護跟綠電發展相平衡這是哪門子的要我們信任行政機關這就是人民信任行政機關的下場每一個蓋滿了章 |
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全部都是合法開發為什麼要在法律裡面明定為什麼要在法律裡面明定因為人民已經不相信民進黨政府對於光電的把關人民已經沒有辦法忍受山野光電板 海野光電板台灣美麗的土地被這些業者這樣的糟蹋 |
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我們沒有辦法回答選民為什麼這是合法的為什麼這是合法的我們為什麼要立法禁止在第十敏感區理由很簡單我們沒有辦法忍受這種事情在發生今天龍介兄說還來得及我必須要說來得太晚了 |
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來得太晚了傷害已經造成了我們現在在做的只是亡羊補牢而已謝謝大家 |
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臺灣民眾黨黨團 國民黨黨團共同所提在修正動議第五條中央主管機關應將具有特殊地質警官地質環境或有發生地質災害之與之地區公告為地質敏感區地質敏感區之劃定變更及廢止辦法由中央主管機關定之中央主管機關應設地質敏感區審議會 |
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審查地質敏感區之劃定變更及廢止前向審議會之組成專家學者不得少於審議會總人數二分之一審議會之組織及運作辦法由中央主管經過定制經劃定制地質以及地質敏感區山峰與地滑地質敏感區不得設置地面型或水面型太陽光電系統 |
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但經環境影響評估審查通過且設置或累積設置面積一公頃以下則不在此限且像太陽光電發電系統不含屋頂型或設置面積一百平方公尺以下且供自用之太陽光電發電系統宣讀完畢 |
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我們現在進行表決臺灣民眾黨團國民黨團共同所提再修正動議條文現在民進黨團要求記名表決我們開始進行記名表決贊成臺灣民眾黨團國民黨團所共同所提再修正動議條文請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
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向院會報告表決結果出席104位贊成56位反對48位贊成者多數第五條照臺灣民眾黨團國民黨團共同所提再修正動議條文通過全案經過二讀現有臺灣民眾黨團體繼續進行三讀請問院會有無異議沒有異議我們請宣讀經過二讀這條文 |
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第五條 中央主管警官應將具有特殊地質警官地質環境或有發生地質災害之與之地區公告為地質敏感區地質敏感區是劃定變更及廢止辦法由中央主管警官定之中央主管警官應設地質敏感區審議會 |
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審查地質敏感區之劃定變更及廢止前向審議會之組成專家學者不得少於審議會總人數二分之一審議會之組織及運作辦法由中央主管機關定制經劃定制地質以及地質敏感區山崩與地滑地質敏感區不得設置地面型或水面型太陽光電系統 |
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但经环境影响评估审查通过且设置或累积设置面积一公顷以下则不再此限前向太阳光电发电系统不含屋顶型或设置面积一百平方公尺以下结工自用之太阳光电发电系统宣读完毕 |
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貿易會三讀條文已經宣讀完畢,請問有文字修正?沒有文字修正,貿易會現有臺灣民眾黨團依據立法院職權行事法第十一條規定,提請將全案複表決。我們現在進行全案表決。 |
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贊成全案通過者請按贊成反對者請按反對棄權者請按棄權民進黨團體要求記名表決我們記名表決時間一分鐘現在開始 |
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向院會報告 表決結果出席105位 贊成57位 反對48位贊成者多數 全案表決通過我們做以下決議 《地質法》第五條條文修正通過法院會 本院黃國昌委員等 針對本案三讀之決議 提出覆議 |
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並請院會隨即表決處理我們現在進行來處理本件附議案現在進行表決針對黃國昌委員所提附議案現在由民進黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決時間一分鐘現在開始 |
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報告表決結果 出席105位 贊成48位 反對57位 贊成者少數 附議案不通過為何我們進行完成立法程序後發言首先 請陳金威委員發言 黃國昌委員請準備 |
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主席各位委員剛剛國民黨與民眾黨一起讓地質法修法正式三讀通過我要跟各位報告這個法案不是任何一個政黨的勝利是人民基本常識的勝利更是國土保安的勝利 |
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這是一個值得欣慰也是令人感慨的時刻欣慰的是因為我們的堅持台灣最脆弱的地質敏感區終於有了法律的保護這些攸關人民身家性命威脅自然生態的區域從今天起正是受到法律的嚴格管制 |
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把失序的光電擋在安全區之外只是消極的防守接下來我們要對過去錯誤的爆衝的綠能政策展開積極的監督還有全面的檢討 |
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第一我們要全面檢討光電合約我們要問過去這幾年光電廠商拿到的20年短購合約簽約的價格條件到底合不合理有沒有暴利有沒有過度圖利的疑慮我們支持綠能但絕不容許有能把綠能當成綠金在炒作 |
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第二我們要嚴肅面對的是光電廢料二十年後全台灣數千萬片總量可能高達數十萬噸的光電板即將迎來報廢潮這次的風災我們聽到環境部跟經濟部說片片有序號早就已經破功了片片找不回來環境部經濟部接下來又要說什麼謊呢 |
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绿能绝对不能成为下一代的巨量垃圾台湾一定要坚持下去我们守住了国土保安明天我们继续守护永续环境全力的监督谢谢陈金威委的发言接下来请黄国昌委发言陈培宇委员请准备 |
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院長 本院委員光電三法是三部遲到的法律對不起這三法來晚了因為來晚了我們只能夠亡羊補牢我們只能夠在山野光電板海野光電板 |
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已經到處被破壞的台灣家園我們讓他暫時停下腳步我們的限制從來就不是全面的我們支持發展再生能源但是我們絕對不支持破壞生態環境的再生能源這是台灣民眾黨的原則這是台灣民眾黨的底線 |
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在這一次地質法的修正當中非常多的環保團體要求台灣民眾把地質敏感區域納入保護的範圍不要再讓地質敏感區域有光電板入侵了這個聲音我們聽到了 |
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也有環保團體說希望能夠進一步的限縮在地質以及山崩與地滑的地質敏感區這些聲音我們也聽到了 |
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我要利用三讀感言的時候特別感謝在這段時間當中來台灣民眾黨黨團拜會給我們非常多指教的環保團體包括高雄市碼頭山的自救會包括森林城市協會 |
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包括苗栗縣環保協會包括臺灣蠻野新竹以及許許多多愛護臺灣保護生態的朋友們謝謝黃國昌委員發言接下來我們請登記最後一位陳培宇委員請發言 |
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謝謝主席我還是要再次說我非常遺憾看到今天三讀修法通過荒謬的地質法修法當然還包含剛剛所有的修法有關於地質敏感區的光電是不是需要環評我想要提醒並且喚醒大家的記憶在今年7月丹納斯風災的時候 |
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有好幾千支電線桿倒塌造成西南沿海大規模停電可是有部分民眾家裡早早就自己裝了光電板可以自己發電自己使用搭配原來的儲能設備不必等台電搶修就可以確保餘溫冷凍庫家戶用電不受影響這個有韌性的防災型光電防災型微電網 |
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當時藍綠白三黨都有立法委員說這是一個非常好的建設希望日後可以擴大設置話才說完到現在他們完全忘記自己說過的話我要再次提醒 |
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在許多山區部落在風災後容易成為電力孤島這幾年他們開始裝設光電板自己有自己的電網風災的時候有電可以用對部落來說幫助非常的大甚至在極端氣候的年代各國都在提醒請大家用綠能加儲能的方法進行 |
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防災行為電網包含日本歐洲美國都是而今天民眾黨跟國民黨的修法恰恰有可能破壞了這個可能性尤其是屋頂型的光電要在有合法建造的建物屋頂上才可以蓋山區部落很多都沒有辦法 |
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只能用地面型光電可是藍白的版本把100平方公尺也就是30坪以上的地面型都擋住了會造成防災型的光電難以設置對地質敏感區的居民來說非常危險非常不公平我們支持綠電修法但絕對不是今天這種版本謝謝 |
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好 謝謝陳培委的發言報言會 我們現在有黨團共事如下本日院會進行討論事項第七案第十一 十二 十三 十五案處理完畢我們進行休息區議案令則其再行處理報言會一到黨團共事我們現在進行討論事項第十一案本院國民黨團建請院會作成決議 |
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邀請行政院院長率同相關部會首長就觀塘液化天然氣接收站三接工程弊案進行專案報告並備諮詢請公決案請議事人員宣讀提案內容 |
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本院國民黨黨團建請用會作成決議鑑於經濟部部長龔敏欣表示一百十三年曾接獲舉報三階工程病案隨行政風單位調查並無法違憲又有媒體提出新事證為免再次官官相誤掩飾真相邀請行政院長率董相關部會首長就觀塘液化天然氣接收證三階工程病案進行專案報告備諮詢是否有道進行公決宣言完畢 |
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本案經提案人說明提案子去大體討論之後及議決交付審查或淨附二讀或不予審議報告委員會依照黨團共識本案提案說明及大體討論均不再發言現在由國民黨團提淨附二讀 |
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依照黨團共識本案盡覆二讀依據立法院職權新施法第74條之一規定交付黨團協商我們現在做以下決議交付黨團協商並由國民黨團負責召集協商 |
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報告議員會 我們進入討論事項第十二案本院國民黨團建議議員會作成決議有鑒於廚餘養豬已成為防疫破口行政院因統一做法以阻絕非洲豬瘟於境外請公決案請議事人員宣讀提案內容 |
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北約國民大黨團有盡於我國自107年已成功將非洲豬瘟阻絕於境外114年5月29日兵獲第92屆世界動物衛生組織認定為豬瘟肺疫國然而短短不到5個月10月21日與台中武器養豬場 |
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驗出非洲豬瘟陽性建請用會作成決議有鑑於豬瘀養豬已成為防疫破口會強化臺灣豬肉外銷競爭力並免對養豬產值造成巨大傷害損失行政院應統一做法明令禁用豬瘀養豬並主動輔導豬農改以飼料養豬轉型鎖生殖成本給予一定補助以阻絕非洲豬瘟於境外社福遊盪進行公決宣讀完畢 |
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依據立法院職權新司法第八條第三項規定本案經提案人說明提案子去大體討論之後我們即一決交付審查 |
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或禁副二讀或不予審議依照保安會依照黨團共識本案提案說明及大體討論均不再發言現在國民黨團提禁副二讀依黨團共識本案禁副二讀依據立法院職權新設法第74條之一規定交付黨團協商我們作以下決議交付黨團協商並由國民黨團負責召集協商 |
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進入討論事項第十三案本院國民黨團建請院會作成決議政府打詐及洗錢防治上全面失能對行政院院長卓榮泰監督不周應該予以最嚴厲譴責之供決請供決案請議事人員宣讀提案內容 |
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本院國民黨黨團近期又會作成決議針對太子集團跨國詐欺及洗錢案賴政府打詐及洗錢房這上全面宣言財政部今晚會及內政部等相關部會帶頭不作為以致形成重大的房帳撥扣嚴重危害社會秩序及國際形象對於行政院長卓榮泰監督部中英語最嚴厲之譴責是否有當進行公決 |
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宣讀完畢依照立法院職権宣誓法第八條第三項規定本案經提案人說明提案子去大體討論之後及議決交付審查或進行二讀或不在於審議 |
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依照党团共识本案提案说明及大体讨论均不再发言现在国民党提议进复二读依照党团共识本案进复二读依照立法院职权新施法第74条之一规定交付党团协商我们做以下决议本案交付党团协商并由国民党团负责召集协商 |
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我們進入討論事項第十五案本院民進黨黨團鑒於中共運用手段不斷擴大對台威懾壓迫請院會決議議案請議事人宣讀提案內容 |
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本院民進黨黨團原建請院會作成決議如下一 針對中共將我國國會議員羅之入罪並威脅恫嚇台灣人民之跨國鎮壓惡行予以最嚴厲譴責二 中華民國是主權獨立國家與中華人民共和國互不隸屬中國對台灣沒有任何管轄權義務權對我國人民實施任何懲戒 |
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台灣人民依據中華民國憲法享有不可剝奪的自由 民主與權利立法院因無分朝野堅守國家主權不容輕憤自由民主不容踐踏台灣人民不容恫嚇之基本立場共同安慰台灣主權與民主自由三 為保障我國人民的基本權利與人身安全政府應積極採取必要的 |
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應處措施及防範作為並與國際社會加強合作共同反制與杜絕任何侵犯他國主權危害民主自由及人身安全之粗暴行為以確保民主社會不受跨國鎮壓之威脅是否有當進行公決宣讀完畢 |
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依照立法院職權刑事法第八條第三項規定本案經提案人說明提案子去大體討論之後即一決交付審查或淨附二讀或不予審議報告院會依照黨團共識本案提案說明及大體討論均不再發言現在民進黨團提淨附二讀 |
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我們本案依照黨團共識 盡附二讀依照立法院職權新事法第74條之一規定交付黨團協商我們現在做以下決議交付黨團協商 並由民進黨團負責召集協商 |
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今天會議進行到此為止11月18號星期二上午9點繼續開會進行花蓮馬太安溪菸塞湖災後重建特別預算案編制並備諮詢我們謝謝劉淑冰委員王振旭委員林沛翔委員牛許廷委員陪同我們一起來審查所有的法案現在休息 |