| IVOD_ID |
170338 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170338 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-36-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
24 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-08T10:21:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-08T10:38:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4fafa81be08c8210dbc537530c8aaa6ba17ae0fa9196a3efa89c27feb000dbf5f3b9796bc518a7b75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
沈發惠 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:21:45 - 10:38:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第24次全體委員會議（事由：併案審查
（一）行政院函請審議「監獄行刑法第一百四十八條及第一百五十六條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員李柏毅等16人擬具「監獄行刑法第一百四十八條條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員王義川等17人擬具「監獄行刑法第一百四十八條及第一百五十六條條文修正草案」案。
（四）委員吳思瑤等17人擬具「監獄行刑法第一百四十八條及第一百五十六條條文修正草案」案。
（五）委員羅智強等17人擬具「監獄行刑法第六十三條條文修正草案」案。
（六）委員徐欣瑩等17人擬具「監獄行刑法第一百四十八條及第一百五十六條條文修正草案」案。
（七）委員翁曉玲等24人擬具「監獄行刑法部分條文修正草案」案。
（八）委員邱鎮軍等20人擬具「監獄行刑法部分條文修正草案」案。
（九）委員林倩綺等19人擬具「監獄行刑法部分條文修正草案」案。
（十）委員羅智強等17人擬具「監獄行刑法部分條文修正草案」案。
【本次會議僅進行詢答】
【7月8日及9日兩天一次會】） |
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主席 我們先請鄭部長好 有請鄭部長部長好我們今天的這個議程裡面這個有關監獄刑刑法修正的草案其實大致上是分成兩個大部分 |
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兩大部分,第一個就是有關剛剛許多委員關心的,有關於這個死刑定驗之後他的這個等待期間的執行期間,他是未來折抵刑期的問題這是第一個議題另外還有一個部分是 |
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一些部分修正條文的修正,是有關這個保外就醫的科技監控這個部分大概今天我們我看到的我們議程大概就這兩個部分那第一個部分有關於這個死刑定驗這個這個等待執行期間的刑期折抵的問題我看這邊的案子包括我們行政院的案子跟大部分委員的提案其實方向大致上都非常接近 |
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大概但是也有其中有一個版本跟我們的版本的精神比較不符所以這部分我想這個我們在逐條的時候可以討論那但是剛剛就第二個部分有關保害就醫的科技監控部分我現在比較關心的是因為今天我們也是就是 |
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這是僅進行詢答不過我想了解說我們行政院因為這部分我看到沒有行政院的版本我們現在有什麼樣的我們目前的這個我們自己的行政院的案子現在走到什麼樣的程度進度走到哪裡因為這裡沒有院版我沒有看到院版的部分 |
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跟委員報告就是有關於那個收容期間折抵跟不能算是假釋的這部分這部分有 這個是有 這是原版另外那個有些立委有版本就是有科控的那一部分就是63條的那個有科控的有科控的這部分還有100 |
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134條的這部分這個版本這個草案目前還在行政院在審查中 |
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目前所以我們是有草案的啦有草案只是行政院還在審查當中行政院還在審查中好那我是希望說是不是這個案子我們這個本委員能夠等院板等院板進來就這個部分在一併來審理因為院板的部分應該整個也包括了整個未來有關於這個相關的保外就醫的科技監控的規定都有相關的修正這部分我希望等院板一起 |
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好,那我是不是現在請我們小政署,你署長,那部長你先請回,如果我等一下關於這些小政署的相關業務,如果部長有認為有政策宣示的部分,再請部長上來好,我先署長委員好部長好,今天這個,因為也 |
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難得署長今天到本委員會來所以我們就利用這個機會這件議題以外的有關於我們目前的智慧監獄的AI監控系統的建制的部分我來跟署長做一個瞭解我們現在目前 |
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這矯正機關剛剛前面委員都提到過事實上我們現在因為一方面因為打詐還有洗錢的這些相關的這些案件我們收容人數收容人數大增那也讓我們的這個懲教的人力這個借戶比這個失衡越來越惡化那這個 |
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這部分我看我們時間統計從去年114年4月的統計到今年5月的統計數字那看起來這個惡化的速度其實是很驚人的這個我們收容人數從去年4月的這個59805人到今年5月的時候就增加到65757人 |
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我們借戶人力比以預算編制下的人力的借戶人力比去年是1比9.8一個借戶人員要對9.8個受刑人到今年又惡化到1比10.6了而且這個是預算編制下的 |
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的接戶人力比如果實際上接戶人員的缺額去年709人一年內現在增加到775個缺額所以事實上看起來這樣是持續在惡化當中所以實際的接戶人力比我們已經到從去年的1比11.14人到現在已經到一個接戶人員他已經到12.16人了 |
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這個比例我們看其他的國家日本是一個對2.3美國是1比4.5新加坡1比6.5韓國是1比3.0結果我們是1比12.6 |
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這狀況其實是缺額是很多問題啦那這個我們過去也一再討論過啦為什麼這個缺額惡化要如何改善要如何改善的部分我們過去事實上我看署長也在新聞裡面也做過說明認為說應該有兩個面向來解決啦就是從這個科技從我們這個 |
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科技安全網跟智慧監獄從這兩個面向下去解決下去來改善 不是解決 是沒有辦法徹底解決但是去改善目前藉由人力比的失衡那其實我們的科技安全網跟我們的智慧監獄計畫其實是同一個計畫它是延續 它不是兩個面向 它其實是延續 |
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最主要現在大家把AI科技運用在輔助預證這個也不是我們台灣首創世界各國在這幾年AI的發展之下我這裡也列出了各國其他各國他們有關於AI運用在 |
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這個輔助預證的這些相關的狀況像美國他們用到這個出入的周邊管制監控的盲點的消除安全辨識數位化基礎建設這些部分像日本跟韓國主要在3D的臉部辨識他們都已經在運用了那英國新加坡以色列我把這些例子舉出來最主要齁 |
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我最要關心的是我們目前我看到那我們呢這是部長所在專訪裡面所提到的這個所謂兩個面向也就是我們的科技安全網跟這個智慧監獄這個我看到我們這個這個法務部矯正署所屬矯正機關的這個有一個科技安全網建置計畫從民國113年到118年也就是現在正在執行當中的一個計畫對不對這個計畫 |
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這個計畫其實這是我剛講它是一個智慧監獄跟智慧監獄是一個延續性的計畫其實我們智慧監獄政策有三個執行階段我們現在講的這個現在我剛所講的113年到這個118年這個已經是第三階段了已經是第三階段了之前第一個階段是在2016到2019年我們提到那個其實是一個智慧監控 |
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系統的一個影像資料庫的建置這是最早的第一階段影像資料庫建置到第二個階段就是智慧監獄的相關的建置計畫那第三個階段才是我們現在要進入討論的這個階段這個階段基本上是要預計要完成全國51個矯正機關所有的監視系統數位化跟整合作業整合作業那 |
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我剛講第二個階段我們智慧監獄的建制計畫其實那時候有在三所矯正機關來試行哪三所嘉義看守所再來說新的像爸的外溢監沒有沒有原本的三個矯正機關我們當初試辦的是嘉義看守所屏東看守所跟雲林監獄雲林監獄是這三個 |
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他們這是有點類似的這三個是當初示範的啦而且基本上包括壽龍人的這些購物系統門禁管制這些智慧監控系統這基本上都已經完成了這個計畫已經在這個到兩年前計畫就已經結束了 |
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所以我們現在第三階段基本上就是就是有一個部分就是把第二階段我們在三個這個收容機關所這個這個試行的成果推廣到把它全部全面性的在51個收容機構裡面全面性的去建置嘛這是一個部分那另外還有一個部分是建立這個中央平台這個部分嘛中央監控平台 |
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那這個就是我今天可能要跟你討論的就是說我們現在這個我們講的這個第三階段就是科技安全網建制計畫其實裡面你們又分成把這個計畫裡面又分成兩個階段第一個階段是113年到116年所以我們現在正好是到中間這個第一階段就是所謂的設備建制 |
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第二階段是從116年到118年基本上就是維護作業了在運作了就運轉維護了所以第一階段這個建制的這部分到116年我們到目前為止我們今年度的預算還沒有審查完畢請問這個對我們的進度建制的進度會不會影響會影響有什麼樣的影響包括我們經費動資我們採購招標我們的工程排程這些這些如果有影響我們會不會導致我們這整個計畫的目標整個延後 |
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這一點先跟委員報告明天的話我就要到主計總署做這一項的報告了到哪裡主計總署行政院那邊做這樣的報告那你報告主要的就是說他那個關於116年的經費有11億多希望他能夠再編列給我們因為我們當中有擴 |
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有增加的那個我們更需要做的基礎設施所以經費有提升5億多那這一點需要再跟主席總裁做一個報告說明通過以後才能撥這個116年的經費但是我們今年度的預算你還沒有過呢還沒有通過 立法院還沒有審查是 那今年度的預算的話我們早就有提出來包括經費動資你包括這個你的採購招標工程的排程這些都有影響這部分我是 |
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我們會極力來爭取這個要極力爭取喔我剛提到說在這個階段裡面一個最大有一個很重要的重點就是我們要建立智慧中央監控平台除了把過去在三個我們講的這個嘉義屏東的看守所跟雲林完全整合整合全國51個所全部都去鋪這就是第一個部分第二個部分就是這些部分之後我們要建立一個中央監控 |
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中央監控平台 透過這樣整合之後去跟他監控 |
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那這個所以所以這個這個你以後會會這整個會你們照你們說法就是以後就是兩個層次三個監控的架構啦齁兩個層次就是包括這個本部就是就是我們欸就是我們矯正署啦齁矯正署還有各矯正機關這樣兩個層次結合在一起是那另外這個三個監控架構包括這個廠舍教區跟我們的中央監控是是架構就是剛剛我們講中央監控平台是是這三個通通都都都要整合在一起 |
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我們現在計畫執行到一半我們現在51個收容場所目前已經建置完成的有多少?有多少已經正式上線運作的? |
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好像是11個監所11個51個目前才11個嘛其他的話是都已經大概完成了是最後的要做一個借接要相同的VPN這樣的傳輸模式借接在一起才能說發揮這樣作用出來那所以我們現在的這個中央平台中央監控平台現在我們現在在11個 |
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場所已經完成建置我們現在中央監控平台已經開始運作了嗎還沒有還沒有中央監控平台要等到51個全部都完成之後才有辦法因為相同的VPN相同的一個界界的這樣的這樣的程式才有辦法整齊那我們預計什麼時候預計什麼時候116年就明年明年預計明年我們這中央監控平台對如果說那個順利的我們預計明年我們51個51個這個收容場所都能夠建置完成對對對好那這個 |
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這個建設完成之後我個人認為一個很重要的部分這個部分也不是我個人認為這個我們自己矯正署我們的矯正期刊這今年一月的矯正期刊第十五卷第一期裡面是由學者跟我們同仁聯名發表的有關於我國智慧監獄建構的困境發展策略的國際經驗的轉化跟本土的調適這篇文章裡面 |
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跟我的看法一致裡面就目前的這個推動的困境裡面提到一個很重要的就是說我們目前的法治並不完備法治不完備的結果會導致人權上面的爭議 |
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我們這個法制目前整個有關於我們運用這個科技來在收容場所運用科技的運用目前唯一的法律依據就是監獄行刑法第21條第6項這裡說有關於這個 |
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第一項到第四項的科技設備的種類設置管理運用資料保存及其他遵行四項辦法由法務部定之也就是它只是一個在監獄行刑法第21條第6項的時候授權法務部下去訂立一個辦法而已所以我們訂立出了一個監獄監獄及看守所的科技設備設置跟使用管理辦法這是目前我們的法規的依據 |
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沒有錯 這個我們用這樣的授權所做的這個基本上是原則性的授權我們所做的相關的這些規定當中欠缺這些細緻的規範跟監督的機制 |
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你這個 未來齁 你這一項 你這樣中央的這個監控平台完成了 我們這運用這個AI科技來進行這智慧監獄的管理的時候未來對於關於監控的場所 資料的保存 調閱的權限有關於人臉跟這個生物的這個辨識的這個特徵 這些敏感資料這些敏感資料 你未來在法律上你的調閱權限等等這些東西有沒有一致 要不要留下這些軌跡標註 |
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這個都是未來有沒有一致的標準以現行的這個設置科技設備設置使用的管理辦法是不夠的是不是應該要提升到法律的用法律上面來規範我剛所講的這些甚至外部的這個監督機制外部的監督機制還有你未來在這個你這些相關的資料的使用的法律界限 |
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包括你這些資料的管理或者是你因為運用AI科技造成的誤判錯誤的救濟機制目前都沒有 |
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目前都沒有這部分時間的關係我就不請署長回來但是我請署長在這個三個月內提出就這個我們這個未來這個智慧監獄的這些相關的這些科技運用的相關法制我們有沒有相關的法制的完備的計畫提出書面報告好不好好謝謝委員的指導上個月內我們提出這個盤點的報告謝謝 |