| IVOD_ID |
170335 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170335 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-35-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第26次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
26 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第26次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-08T10:17:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-08T10:31:59+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:29 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4fafa81be08c82107e79c65403f7ed5c701c2adc7b5d6a2ba89c27feb000dbf5db33f131730d363f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王定宇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:17:30 - 10:31:59 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第26次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告「少子化衝擊下國軍人力資源政策與未來因應規劃」，並備質詢。） |
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主席麻煩部長請顧部長我們請次士也上來好了是 黃偉豪 |
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好 部長早我第一個先請教一下因為在7月6號中國解放軍跟俄羅斯在聯合軍演那7月6號他們在用他們的核子動力潛艦發射了一枚潛射型的洲際彈道導彈朝向太平洋 |
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當然中國的文宣戰 心理戰 認知戰把它描述成飛越 它有動畫喔那個動畫拍得很假 但是它有個動畫飛越日本的上空然後好像快要接近美國本土但事實上不是這樣子啦那我先請教就是就目前國防部掌握的狀況這一個載台是什麼發射的是什麼然後入境 另外他們 |
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發射這一枚淺色型的洲際彈道導彈,它的戰略上目的是什麼?委員好,請自市市長,回應剛剛委員所關切的這個問題第一個,發射的載台跟位置呢,我想我們 |
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有很多工程已經先同步公佈出來了他大概就是在廣東南邊那是從海面發應該是說從海面發射那海面是潛射他是海面上發射的對那應該是說怎麼樣的發射或者是什麼樣的彈種早上部長在回答媒體的時候我想我們也做了做了具體的說明說是我們這邊所得到的掌握到的應該是巨浪二型那至於什麼樣的 |
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巨浪二型大概就6000公里上下嘛大概7000那至於什麼樣的管道途徑這個就不跟文言說抱歉你說情資掌握得到的途徑你可以講說你們自己掌握的但是這應該是交換情報啦因為它飛越距離相當遠那它是用哪一型的核子動力潛艦發射的 |
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這個在應該是澳洲的外交部他也對外說明說他們所以你們是看報紙知道的不是吧這恐怕我們也沒辦法跟您具體的說明說因為國安會秘書長直接PO在那個X上面 |
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第一個這應該是情報交換系統得知的啦是是我們有多元的情資交換來源那所以我想我們對這個載台然後還有部長我要問的是這一個這些都有掌握我想公開資訊我再問沒有意思我要問的其實是這一個就是說所謂的多元情資交換它是偶發性的一次性的或定期性的也就是我們是不是在一個情資交換的network裡面 |
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會固定就我們相關的重要情資做即時性的交換或者是偶一為之有一方要釋放特定的訊息透過我們當作訊息載台把它釋放出來這兩個意義不一樣啦我們現在的情資交換是常態性的嗎 |
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是OK好那細節我就不問那現在掌握的是巨浪二型那當然它中國習慣性吹牛啦它講飛越日本上空看起來如果在我們東南方它最多是飛越菲律賓上空不會是日本的上空這個時候它在7月6號發射這一枚核子發射這一枚洲際彈道導彈中國的目的是什麼 |
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我想這個各國都已經對這個他的這樣子的一個一個試射這樣子的一個 |
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彈道飛彈都已經有所譴責了,我們並不想去評論中國的目的但是我們想要說明的是,他們已經對區域和平穩定造成威脅紐澳、北約、日本、美國都譴責他們破壞區域的和平穩定 |
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那有這個北約的秘書長呂特他也講了一些話說不要再天真看待中國的威脅但是呢有一方哪一國我就不說了提到說中國展現他的核能力已經從陸地到海上那他這個核能力呢搭配之前的川習會 |
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以及對台的軍售他等於透過這個動作在喊價希望去對台美之間的安全合作做一些喊價的動作部長你怎麼看我覺得我們還是要從這個如何來維持印太區域和平穩定這個作業那麼很明顯的美國的印太戰略就是集體嚇阻 |
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集體嚇阻,這個集體嚇阻的傾向已經越來越明確所以不管是日本、澳洲、菲律賓甚至韓國,我想都在第一島鏈的集體嚇阻範圍之內 |
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我把我另外一個題目就帶進來,上一次我問那個環太平洋,台灣沒有參與,但是你特別在回答的時候,請我們國人要注意到兩個演習,一個是堅毅之龍,一個勇敢之盾,然後後來呢,美國陸軍太平洋司令部的司令克拉克, |
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他公開指出這一些這麼多年來這些大大小小的演習叫做穿珍珠也就是他是串起來的他把它取一個名字叫做Operation Pathways那我們知道Operation Pathways這個任務或戰鬥行動是二戰的時候 |
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美軍要打等於二戰的時候從島鏈佔領打到日本本土的一個代號名稱他現在把這取這個名稱而他在克拉克講得很明白這些穿針珠起來的目的就是嚇阻中國對台灣的武力威脅所以你提到那兩個演習是不是也是這一個戰鬥行動戰鬥任務裡面的 |
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兩項之一我想所有在美國在印太區域他為了要維持他的這個印太區域和平穩定那也朝向集體嚇阻的這個角度出發他要進行跟各相關國家進行聯合演訓我想其目的當然 |
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就相當的清楚所以我們有在這些聯合演習如果戰鬥行動目的是為了維繫台海和平穩定嚇阻中國對台武力威脅那台灣是主角之一嘛所以在這些穿珍珠的一串珍珠裡面台灣有沒有在這串珍珠裡面我們的演習我們的訓練我們的bilateral exercise |
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我想我沒有辦法在這邊透露過多的細節,我是認為我們站在第一島鏈的前緣,就這整個第一島鏈的位置我們也在樞紐的地位,所以我想台灣在 |
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集體的嚇阻的戰略之下我們當然扮演的重要角色邏輯上跟我們的安全直接相關我們不太可能不在這一串珍珠裡面嘛戰爭需要想定想定需要演練 演練再修訂修正之後再演練所以這一個我尊重部長的不便透露太多細節我跳到我最後一題 |
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最近有一個媒體報導美軍他講是美軍喔年輕的男女軍人密集的進出龍潭特戰指揮部這個有或沒有其實我們光搭高鐵遇到梅雨老師頻率之高我們大概有感受我現在要請教就是這些訊息的揭露 |
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能揭露跟不能揭露本身就有意義以往協訓雙方演訓或者在澎湖或者在屏東這些訊息通常我們是不對外揭露的那目前包含去年的漢光印太司令部的J5的將軍的名牌一直到現在這些請問一下這個訊息的揭露是在台美默契下的揭露或者是不經意被發現 |
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我想我們都沒有在做特意的主動揭露我想依照台美相關的默契我們都還是維持這個低調跟不公開的方式那這些軍人是現役或者是退役的contractor |
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跟委員報告,我想我沒有辦法做過多的說明。OK,好,這我尊重。那,原額大概你也不便講,因為美國的NDA預算書裡面看到原額是寫400,但是看起來量我們不曉得,但是台美的合作對我們的安全有幫助? |
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對我們實戰能力的提升有幫助對我們的訓練現代化有幫助本席是樂見那我也尊重該保密的就保密但是這樣子的合作本身訊號就是一種嚇阻力量訊號什麼時候該釋出請國防部跟我們的合作方可以審慎思考我現在再多問一個攸關情勢式的 |
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連續半年了 中共高層在清洗英文我看各大報 包含軍事媒體都用Purge這個字清洗共軍的高階將領他的中央軍事委員會 七個剩兩個一個是習近平 一個是管紀律的其他中部不見了 張惡霞也不見了然後呢 中將等級的 少將等級的被清洗的將領快要可以組一個連了 |
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那這半年就情勢是掌握的情資中共高層清洗共軍將領的情況數量你們的得到情資跟狀況是什麼 |
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郭委員報告第一個我們認為這個數字應該還有持續增加的空間我剛才講的數字還會持續增加一個連以上那至於是多少這個恐怕要中共他自己來回答他回答都騙人的我也不相信你回答我比較相信那第二個要跟您報告的是說勤之士的責任是我們根據我們現在所看到的做出 |
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預警還有研判跟長官報告我就抓緊這個時間啦所以量比我們想像的還要更多還在持續增加當中那我就要請問你這對共軍解放軍威脅特別是威脅台灣的部分戰力跟指揮鏈有沒有影響 |
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我想我們要料敵從寬我覺得秦司司就是根據他的研判來跟我們報告很多事情就是一種判斷不過以料敵從寬來講我看到風險的評估有兩面性有的認為說這個延後了他們認為setback那有的認為說這容易盲動蠢動因為只重視中共軍現在只重視政治的效忠程度不重視專業程度秦司司評估你們風險是往上走還是往下走 |
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這個兩面都有啦,我的意思是說,剛剛委員提到有可能盲動,那有可能 |
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因為你們的評估會演出你們的因應我們看的,其實要看的是現在以及未來可能看得到的這些預警、徵喉所呈現對我們對它未來行動的一個判斷那這個判斷當然包括政治面、非軍事面、軍事面的部分這樣子 |
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好我最後丟一個題目因為我一直在關心最小域值的更新我們邊線比當然是一個問題那邊線比這個你們現在不用回答因為時間關係我丟題目我希望盡快看到結果到底是哪一支部隊什麼單位邊線比偏低 |
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什麼樣的層級軍事官兵什麼樣的層級什麼樣的專長邊線比偏低我們要能夠分細分之後根據這樣的邊線比偏低的具體的明細的現象我們才能夠知道投入什麼樣的資源增加什麼樣的加擠留下我們必要要留的人那 |
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大概去年我去年底開始談到這個這個叫threshold最低域值美軍有這個數據那我們也一段時間研究這個數據什麼時候可以提供出來我希望將來該機密就機密我們在國防委會看到的邊線比不是一個overall的平均數因為那沒有意義啦 |
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跟委員報告,我想我們已經參考了各國戰力延續跟平面方式,用人力素質、後勤資源跟訓練程度三大面向,然後再根據部隊的組成要素,還有軍種的任務,還有武器裝備特性,我們已經進行多次研討。 |
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已經有相關的這些 什麼時候可以提出來但這個內容以及相關的包括這些要提升戰力這個部分也是我這邊很重視但是我想這些部分沒有辦法公開我贊成 最低域值 |
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絕對是機密但是你們有或者說你們適合的方式讓我們委員會可以監督的到我們才知道原來你現在調高這個加級是有意義的那你認為這個應該保密本席尊重因為基於國家利益本來軍事機密應該保密但是這個進度過程要讓我們知道細節內容也許我可以尊重因為你這最低域值算出來之後除了人員的配置以外也牽涉到你要採購什麼樣的裝備 |
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這個裝備以前要用十個人我現在就要考慮到買用三個人的因為這個地方用的人變少或者哪些人力要釋放出來轉到無人機相關的單位所以如果有已經有一個結果出來請用妥適的方式讓我們委員會知道這樣好嗎我們再找時間跟委員做一個說明好 謝謝部長 |