| IVOD_ID |
170333 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170333 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-08T10:16:37+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-08T10:26:18+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:41 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4fafa81be08c8210cd08e81edc47b9b43f9d9bcb29de6404a89c27feb000dbf5913bf80977d0b5285ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
楊瓊瓔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:16:37 - 10:26:18 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員、外交部首長、僑務委員會首長、大陸委員會首長、財政部首長、金融監督管理委員會首長、內政部首長就「協助海外台商因應地緣政治變化及區域經濟整合之輔導策略」進行報告，並備質詢。
二、邀請經濟部部長就「全國電力資源供需報告」進行報告，並備質詢。
【7月8日及7月9日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 楊瓊發言我們請工部長經濟部工部長 |
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我們在針對台電離岸風電二期的進度呢我們上次有討論過那當時是在5月20所以在21跟22號到現在那當時的大幅報導到現在49天那請問部長剩下的30座這個風機安裝了幾座請教 |
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我跟委員報告請教安裝起坐經過了49天現在我們已經在跟那個風機安裝的廠商因為富威跟他們的合約終止所以請教目前目前從5月20本期質詢的時候到現在4949天 |
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安裝了幾座 有沒有你告訴我有還是沒有就好 我們再繼續討論我們現在已經在進行新的一月階段一月晚他就開始動員安裝風機所以請問到目前為止有沒有在安裝風機因為我們的承包商 有沒有 告訴我有還是沒有 沒關係承包商沒有合約 所以就不會安裝風機 |
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所以到520到現在49天也就是說那個部長說的就是安裝 把它安裝上嘛所以到目前為止沒有安裝半座嘛 對不對 |
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目前的現況是不是如此沒關係你告訴我你告訴我是不是當目前所以沒有合約所以就不是有安裝這件事所以沒有安裝沒有安裝接下來我要請教部長你有沒有看過台電跟陳蘭這個商的這個合約有沒有看過部長你有沒有看過 |
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部長不需要看這個部長不需要看但是你要知道好本席告訴你依照合約113年要完成風力發電機組下部的結構設置那包括了水面下的海欄跟水下的機組第二個 |
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依據合約114年要完成風機安裝跟工程竣工第三個合約寫得很清楚施工區域氣象條件跟施工的環境應該要記錄規劃施工的時程所以台電跟業者不可以以這兩項為推託這是第三個請教部長剛剛 |
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您說的到目前為止我們上次520討論到現在49天沒有在安裝半部喔那請問今年風機會不會安裝來請做說明我們現在在你說不用部長你看到我現在告訴你來請問今年的風機會不會安裝 |
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我們在台電公司因為富威出了狀況他被風機商終止了合約現在是台電依照我們跟富威的合約再跟風機廠商預約那這個預約完成就會開始動員安裝風機所以請問 請問部長我還是要請問部長因為大家都期待所以今年風機會不會安裝上去 |
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請教部長今年會開始安裝風機今年會開始安裝這是台電董事長你說的部長會不會 |
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議約嘛齁 台電公司還要跟這個施作廠議約不是 議約也不能太急 你要議約好不能太急你中急啊你要必須依法去執行啊剛剛我也已經告訴你了113你要做什麼 114你要做什麼啊對不對 議合約啊所以我告訴你部長部長不要只當一個玩 淒樂玩 |
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不要只當一個玩樂高積木不要只做一個樂高部長一定要加油 來 再請教罰金的部分罰金的部分那麼每天一座是要罰105萬所以一天30座是3150萬那這些都是納稅錢 那請問有沒有開罰 |
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請問有沒有開罰 部長有沒有開罰委員 逾期的罰款台電已經通知就是我們的合約廠商就是富威能源他們已經逾期我們會依照契約來你現在發了多少 |
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議員請問你划了多少 等一下委員請問 我要記一個數就是我要確定他原期預期的多少現在還沒開罰嗎 是不是 我們已經通知要開罰你通知要開罰 現在也在台電手下你通知要開罰 你會划多少我們還沒有完全確定預期還沒有完全確定 我再告訴你 |
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你還沒有完全確定 你有通知要幹嘛 沒關係不是片段接 我們實務來討論 我們實務來討論我們實務來討論 請你回答本席的提問在網的資料 你應該看 在網資料台電二期工程進度嚴重落後的情況之下 在第四項 |
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在第四項說明得非常清楚依照合約以上各項工程已將該地地區氣象條件以及施工環境影響因素納入考量對不對你們會罰款的這是確定你們會罰款什麼時候罰款什麼時候告訴社會大眾我們已經通知對方我們要罰款通知對方現在的工程款 |
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工程款保證金都在台電手上我們都扣著沒有給他好你現在請問多久時間你可以計算出來不管你說的預期可以告訴我們你要開發多少我們現在最重要是風機要執行它的安裝安裝之後請證證們請問你說要通知開發你要開發什麼時候可以告訴社會大眾你預計你計算也好什麼時候多久時間可以告訴社會大眾你會開發多少 |
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我們要確定後續的工作要延多少時間我們才會做出明確的餘期的時間給我們一個時間點沒關係我們那個叫餘期罰款我現在風機要重新來做安裝的工作所以我是不是需要一點時間來確定餘期的多少時間那他的罰款的上限包含餘保金等等現在全部都在我們手上在你的手上請你告訴我們還有他的工程款 |
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請你告訴我們你計算也好你各種方式也好請你多久時間可以告訴社會大眾你會開罰多少什麼時間你告訴我時間就好了所有的工程執行需要工程執行到一個階段明確的時間我們就會做我們不做這個是台電會依照合約來執行我們拭目以待我們拭目以待好來部長除了台電的二期工這個零進度之外呢那這個承攬商還有一個讓位了 |
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437.742 |
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466.633 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
又得封場 它在前年喔 它是評審第一名的但是 現在暗藍下屍了前年評審第一名 現在暗藍下屍了前部長 你有沒有看到這個報紙 你有沒有看到這個報導因為 本期質詢過呢 連續的事故慣犯為了要逃避411億的全部的雲林封場那之前 我們劉志強委員也質詢過 他說了 空手套白狼 |
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467.625 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
485.514 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
那他的老闆 天豐新能源集團 請問現在外界在傳 他說 曖昧的說 表態要來收購股權那逃避經濟部 你的省巢 跟你的這個監督來收購浪尾樓就是這個悅德風場 部長你怎麼看 你怎麼看 部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
488.968 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
493.011 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
這種政策決策式的 已經大家都在傳的你不可能再說 這個不是我部長 沒有到我這裡啊請教部長 本期就告訴你現在業者傳 媒體傳 那就怎麼辦呢請教 本期就要聽聽你的看法沒有 他有實際上 他要怎麼做 他要來跟我們行政部門確定來談 這個才確認 |
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515.97 |
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522.174 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
那外面的說法這個都是他們的說法所以本席給你一個結論因為雲林風場他違反了這個行政契約耽誤了五年才完工第二個他違法的事故三次違法的事故第三個是逃避411億因為這411億是人民的納稅錢所以部長 |
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541.707 |
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559.614 |
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在三次的僑罰金跟三次的事故的這個會議當中我想你旁邊的好旁邊的這個台電董事長都非常的清楚他不是就前幾天發言的遠能的董事長羅鳳彥嗎他全程的參與耶所以本席要請問411億剛剛董事長有說你們會開罰但沒有辦法給我們時間點跟我們給數字所以要請問會不會追討到底 |
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570.959 |
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577.325 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
還是輕輕放下請教只要按照合約就一定按照合約來走按照合約好該罰就罰謝謝好謝謝楊權宇委員時間掌握非常好 |