| IVOD_ID |
170281 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170281 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-06 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-36-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
23 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-06T10:25:15+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-06T10:34:40+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:25 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/09e0feae5cc9a38a8c2e3f0b2ab4298f67f2ff6e242cc4a865f68dd013ee40a5dcf26fffb41f74a55ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:25:15 - 10:34:40 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第23次全體委員會議（事由：邀請司法院秘書長、法務部部長、財團法人法律扶助基金會、財團法人犯罪被害人保護協會針對「犯罪被害人訴訟參與制度之現況、檢討與精進」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席有請司法院的李富密署長好 請李富密委員好 富密好我先請教國外有陪審團 |
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我們是用國民法官來取代2023年上路的到目前為止 國民法官是可以參與審判嗎 定罪嗎國外陪審團不是喔 國外陪審團就是假的或假的然後法官決定量刑 那我們的國民法官是可以參與說要判幾年 有這樣子嗎 |
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跟委員報告一下 我們的國民法官制度主要就是參酌日本的裁判員制度我們採取的是合審合判的制度是嗎 所以他就變法官了嘛對對對 他是國民法官 所以有四位國民法官 三位職業法官一起參與 六位國民法官跟三位職業法官合審合判包括四十二任律 法律分官量刑 這些都是合在一起的 |
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那這問題是國民法官有這樣的法學素養嗎他會知道說該判幾年 要四年比較好 三年比較好還是幾年比較好 有這樣的一個程度嗎跟委員說明一下 我們在裁判員制度 國民法官制度這部分 |
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我們原先也擔心說國民法官他們也自己認為說我是不是對法律的素養不值我事實認定不夠事實上我們希望把多元的多元的事實認定感情帶到審判案件來所以對案件應該怎麼去判我們是會提供所謂的量刑行刑給他現在到現在為止國民法官參與判的案件有幾案 |
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我記得是現在已經好像一百多件了一百多件 對你們從專業角度覺得怎麼樣我覺得目前來講在好嗎 你們覺得可以接受嗎我們覺得就我自己的感覺我覺得這個制度是可以繼續走下去的繼續走下去 不需要走向美國那裡就是說我們只是決定去那裡或去那裡然後由法官來專業認定 不需要這樣 |
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在美國的死刑案件他除了這有罪無罪罪包括是要不要亮出死刑這個是由陪審團來亮那個決定那在台灣的話包括有期徒刑的部分都是由職業法官跟國民法官一起來決定 |
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這個你們要去注意這個啦我是覺得這裡面判下來的結果其實外界現在大家沒有那麼注意但是我覺得這是個題目這是個題目跟委員報告一下這是個題目我們現在還沒有看到真理的喔如果看到真理的請問他的案子有沒有錯誤 |
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案件也是抽籤的啊?也算抽籤的那個國民法官的產生是透過兩次的...我不是講那個我說那個案情比如說殺人犯罪有沒有經過有沒有可能國民法官有參與重大的犯罪 |
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所以國民法官就是沒有任何的 |
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限制就對了有限制它的適用法條就是因犯故意犯罪而致人有發生死亡結果的案件例如說不能安全駕駛先造成死亡結果這個我了解請你去注意一下這個的制度走法我們陳孝平委員會有固定在沒有準備把它走成美國的這個變成陪審團制度沒有 |
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因為這是完全不同的體系喔我們是大陸體系對不對他們是海洋體系海洋體系配成團像香港那個是海洋體系的配成團大陸體系你現在是國民法官喔好你請回我請一下法務部的這個次長啊以及法護基金會的董事長莊董事長 |
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來 中國髮鬍基金會一年得拿政府多少錢啊15億左右喔外界對你們 你們覺得自己的表現怎麼樣呢外界對你們評價怎麼樣我覺得 外界對髮鬍的評價 |
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越來越好越來越好可是因為我們受委託的案子越來越多幾乎都沒有減少的時候現在我把它查了一下外界對你們的評價 |
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正面我就不講了 正面你自己講負面的就是第一個審查門檻過嚴格第二個律師酬勞偏低大概一個案子只有3萬左右第三個假法服這個情況你要怎麼回應怎麼避免假法服特別是我現在就因為我時間關係我就不問這些了我主要跟你講外界最有意見的是什麼 |
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用政府的錢幫詐欺犯打官司這個是最有意見這裡面的詐欺犯佔了將近三成 26-28%這一部分你們怎麼對外界講就是現在來講的話 比如說對我來講 我開過公聽會 |
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那個老是 退休的老是被騙了 夫妻被騙了一兩千萬 憾死這個詐欺犯了又拿不回來 開共聽會 其實屬於明白表示拿不回來結果這種情況之下 你們還花錢 花政府的錢去幫他打官司 外界很有意見啦 你很有意見這個詐欺犯的事情 |
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對於詐欺犯我先講這一點對詐欺犯提供辯護其實我們的法湖律師也是很無奈不得已的他們也不是很愛去辯這方面的但是因為什麼 |
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恍而我們這些的被告,詐欺的被告幾乎大部分還無資歷呢就是你抓到的,在我們國內抓到的大部分車所還有一些身心障礙的或者是說他本身就是缺錢用的都是被詐騙集團吸收的大部分年輕人或怎麼樣結果他們被抓到的時候一連串的,這些查都沒有資歷 |
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好啦 我就提醒你注意這個事情啦可以詐欺犯 辯護外界是很有意見的啦這個市長 市長 我一個最後的問題市長 我跟你市長講一下現在講 酒駕 獨駕都家中行車現在有一個東西 一個題目跑出來了 要駕 |
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藥價 吃藥的藥 吃藥的藥這裡面藥呢 其實幾乎幾乎啊 上了一定年紀以上的人幾乎都會吃藥嘛第一期是什麼 降血壓的藥 |
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有時候吃到肚子痠痠啊 頭痠痠啊第二級抗憂鬱藥降血糖的藥 多數人在吃啊第三級是危險級的才是比較屬於安眠藥這方面的現在法務部有沒有初步的 |
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一個看法因為最近酒駕毒駕大家都討論很多但是藥駕開始討論出來的法務部的立場是什麼對藥駕跟委員報告我們的那個法條規定是說行為人士用毒品麻醉藥品或其他相類之物那就是藥駕 |
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對,然後就是說如果說他的尿液跟血液檢驗達到我們行政院公告的濃度以上就會可能會構成185條之三第一項第三款的一個規定那如果說就算沒有達到公告那也要看那個個案中是不是已經造成了有具體上不能安全駕駛因為我們那個條文是重點是在不能安全駕駛我們會做實務上的一個做一個判斷 |
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517.288 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
522.896 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
可是當事人可能不了解啊我感冒吃個感冒藥它裡面有含這個成分就吐洪洪塞一下就出問題就變成這樣啊我們那個就是說其他鄉類植物還要到那個就是血液檢驗的那個濃度的話 |
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532.711 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
561.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
大概不會是感冒藥就達得到啦所以目前法務部還沒有準備要提案修法對於藥價把它加進來沒有目前那個其他相類之物已經可以包括在這裡所以其他的已經包括藥我覺得那一部分可以把它特別標啦比如說我們對於藥第三級的危險級吃了安眠藥請你也不要開車你這樣講這部分再看看怎麼討論你們去研究一下謝謝 |
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562.714 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
562.735 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
好 |