| IVOD_ID |
170239 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170239 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-01 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-01T12:04:35+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-01T12:08:59+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:04:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/10566d69eaf1b9ac40db37a5eca731e4ca9306fd69d22fc0b65eee6cffed319ebdd561b1fcf353985ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許忠信 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:04:35 - 12:08:59 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-01T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：一、彙總整理提出「中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案審查總報告（公務預算部分）草案」提報院會案。
二、彙總整理提出「中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業及非營業部分審查總報告草案」提報院會案。
三、審查本院委員吳秉叡等20人擬具「會計師法部分條文修正草案」案。（詢答及處理）
四、審查本院委員吳秉叡等21人、委員李彥秀等18人分別擬具「證券交易稅條例第二條之一條文修正草案」等2案。（僅詢答）
【7月1日及2日二天一次會】） |
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主席 各位同仁 我們有請彭主委請今晚會彭主委主委好 您的報告有提到被動式的債券ETF我們一年的成交大概兩兆交易那這個主動的有多少 |
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主動的部分那我也很抱歉我沒有記這個數字我待會請同仁查到趕快跟您說明一下如果現在查得到因為你們一定都有資料一年多少有一個我們在114年底的話被動債券ETF大概3兆165億然後115年5月的話有2兆9800多億主動的 |
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主動債券的檔數的話就是少很多大概169億左右好 謝謝您金額差距蠻大的好 謝謝您我們有請財政部陳次長請財政部陳次長次長好 委員好您的報告我仔細去讀但是您似乎有所苦衷欲言又止 |
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你不敢講很詳細的東西但是你最後四個字希望財政部所提出來的經過行政院的版本能夠跟本院兩位很優秀的委員所提出的證券交易稅的版本並按審查根據我以前的經驗並按審查表示財政部跟這兩位委員的意見有不同這是我個人的經驗 |
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那麼您能不能簡單答也就是說主動被動全部納入免稅我們政府一年的稅收會減收多少 |
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我先回答剛剛委員第一個問題我想因為這個部分它涉及到財政紀律法跟我們的稅市支出的評估的第六點那這個部分必須要金管會來提出整個稅市一個支出的一個評估報告那我們會做後續的負評那你剛剛所提的市長非常地了解市長非常地專業你一定知道稅收會影響多少 |
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172.262 |
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那我們這一個部分其實我們影響的它有最初的一個收入一個損失法還有一個最終的一個收入損失法我想這一個部分會有那個金額要多少那個稅損的部分我想金管會都已經提出來了當然最終的順勢所以我說 |
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200.493 |
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他已經提供給我們目前來看的話在整體而言我們金管會說總稅收增加啦但是就這個項目納入免稅所減收的稅收有多少我跟委員報告一下整體而言從最初或者是最終來看整體而言以金管會的評估是會增加稅入的一個那是總體而言但是我要知道納入主動會影響我們稅收多少 |
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大概我們的一個稅損大概會有大概一兩百億左右一兩百億所以您不敢言所以要我來請教你你才會報告但是這一個部分跟委員報告因為整個一個稅的稅損跟我的最終我剛剛一直強調的一個部分有最初跟最終的部分所以那要整體評估來看所以這是你很專業的地方不敢 是那麼你們評估期間要多久你的報告沒有講說護評的時間要多久 |
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是我想這個部分我們會儘速來答覆儘快大概多數大概我們如果這樣子我們大概七月七月底之前我們儘快就可以提出來是那我們七月底提出來我們還會提到一個後續的法制的調整要調整哪一些後續法制的調整 |
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261.508 |
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我想這個後續法制的調整,我想那個金管會應該都準備好了因為時間到,我跟昭偉都是學法律的我們按照時間來,謝謝 |