| IVOD_ID |
170107 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170107 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-35-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
23 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-24T11:06:48+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-24T11:15:44+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:56 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/eeac6239dd17b446c56d99275cfe19fb10c520a6e5259bb20a35aa3449b62c54edfb78fde1fab8a35ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王鴻薇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:06:48 - 11:15:44 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-24T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第23次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告「教召制度公平性、後備軍人實戰化施訓成效與女性召訓配套措施」，並備質詢。
（6月24日及25日二天一次會）） |
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我們電展室這個單位主要有徵收中共的訊號情報跟無線通訊的功能 |
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我想電展室它有它的一些特殊的任務有些特殊任務嘛那所以這個被外界稱為說這個是共軍最想摸底的單位因為它是一個包含情資還有收集中共的這些通訊的資料那我想請問一下部長或者執行長來回答 |
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知不知道最近在網路上有一個是號稱是我們電展市國防部的外派人員他基本上是在一個靠北長官的網站上他所提出來的寫了一篇文章他的文章的標題叫做在泰國鄉下角落當老鼠的日子 |
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然後這個文章基本上是抱怨就說他在外派的時間他就非常賭爛了就說包含他的待遇啦他的工作等等之類包含他覺得這個經費有被這個中間有被黑掉等等但是 |
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他這整篇文章本來是有人讓我要特別去照顧國軍弟兄讓我特別照顧國軍弟兄然後提供這個資料他說要讓國防部照顧國軍弟兄即便他們是在海外派駐也要看一下他們到底是過什麼樣的日子可是呢我一看之後其實我是大吃一驚因為在裡面的內容 |
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第一個如果他今天因為他主要的任務就是去攔截中共相關的情報還有他的無線通訊但是相關的內容其實有很多的外洩資料我相信這都是極機密的事情應該都是極機密的內容包含所處的地點所處的地點 |
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還有裡面還有我們地點的照片裡面外面的照片通通都有還有它的location的資料另外包含一些它的外國無線電高頻的這些頻段的訊號也都在文章裡面第三個一些人員的資訊就是用英文的名單也通通在裡面 |
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我一看之後我其實有點嚇到啊這些資料第一個所以我想我相信到現在國防部不可能不知道因為事實上我們的辦公室也有跟國防部來做了解第一個有可能的是 |
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他是不是完全的假訊息假造的這個你們應該現在了解了到底這是不是完全的假訊息第二這裡面是不是中間確實有我們外派的國防部的同仁 |
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他可能心裡真的是覺得只是想靠北但是卻把一些機密性的資料外洩出去第三個這些裡面所提的相關的資料有部分是正確但是有部分是假造我為什麼要特別提出來因為在泰國的媒體已經有報導我們台灣媒體可能沒有人注意到 |
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泰國的媒體已經有人有報導最重要的是它裡面還揭露了說我們電展室的泰國的這個單位還有蒐集其他東盟國家的資訊所以這裡面的資料我覺得實在是太勁爆了國防部現在了解的狀況到底是什麼 |
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是不是可以做一個說明或者你們還沒有調查清楚是不是應該去做調查我意思說這裡面如果有假訊息有假訊息也要交接假訊息的來源因為這裡面其實如果把它弄出來真的會有外交的危機的對不起上來的是 |
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委員好 包委員我是簽報次長好 次長好是 包委員您剛剛提的這件事情第一時間我們國防部也有掌握那因為剛剛竹東委員剛剛所在質詢的過程當中提示到的這個牽涉到的不僅僅是單單這件事件所以我們建議不要在這個公開的場合跟委員做太詳細的說明 謝謝好 |
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所以按照你的回答我大概知道你的意思所以我覺得這一定要測查這絕對不是我們任何有關住宅單位所洩漏的這個部分而且這個訊息的內容有不實的所以部長現在立刻說就是這個內容不實嘛因為部長我不曉得你有沒有看到這個相關的資料你有沒有看到這篇文章 |
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是,我有,他們有第一時間就跟我報告那你,就是我們很正式的說,這裡面是假訊息,是嗎?我們認為這個第一個,我想說明,因為您提到說這個是不是我們駐外的單位的人員去這個,我在這邊表示是沒有這樣的一件事情那裡面的這個內容也有諸多不實的地方 |
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好 這個可能 那如果你們覺得不宜公開講的話因為至少我提出來 因為連國外的媒體都有在報導好 另外一件事 時間給我一點點就是那個 |
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星光部隊因為在今年的年初我們有媒體曝光了星光部隊訓練的資訊可是在川習會之前 |
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結果呢 日經新聞認為說 這個是我們的一個 等於說對中的一個威嚇可是日經新聞的評論是說 這樣的訊息的外洩可能加重了新加坡的外交壓力最主要是今年年初 今年年初 |
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Asia Times 亞洲時報有說來自於新加坡軍方人士的投書說如果兩岸情勢升高那麼新加坡不排除將星光部隊撤離台灣所以我想請問部長 |
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這是今年初的消息然後呢 我們在專席會前 星光部隊橫春受訓的影片又外流而日經新聞它的這個評論是說 這樣的一個影片外流反而加重了新加坡的外交壓力我想知道一下 到目前為止 星光部隊有可能從台灣撤離嗎 |
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跟委員報告,我想我們跟新加坡之間的軍事交流一直維持正常的一個運作,沒有聽過有任何其他您所提到的相關的訊息,也沒有這樣的事實存在。好,所以到目前為止,雖然有這個聯署有這樣的投書,到目前為止,星光我們長達應該是超過50年的一個這樣子的一個合作,一個受訓的合作,還是會繼續的持續,是嗎? |
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我們跟新加坡之間的軍事交流一直會維持正常的一個,按照我們 |
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既定的方向來持續來交流運作但是另外一方面我剛剛在特別講到我不管是前面那個訊息是基於什麼樣原因是抱怨還靠北還是怎麼樣還是有特別的因素他的這樣的一個訊息的流出或者是新光部隊授訊影片的外流其實我覺得都會加重我們處理一些事務的壓力所以我覺得保密是非常非常重要的 |
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這個我想我們會注意 |