| IVOD_ID |
170066 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170066 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-18T10:08:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-18T10:19:09+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:39 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ac5d42f4fd98837a0fc8933520ca999374651e55be1bd8f35dfbff722aff1dc5a167abc7ae7a34905ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許智傑 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:08:30 - 10:19:09 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金－鐵道發展基金分預算。
二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金－臺鐵局撥入資產及債務管理基金分預算。【一、本日會議僅進行詢答；二、兩基金預算提案截止收件時間為6月18日下午4時】
【6月17日及18日二天一次會】） |
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主席 大家好 我們請那個鐵道局長好 我們請楊三軍局長委員好那個 次長你坐著聽就好了我那個剛剛徐富奎提到的那今天台鐵沒來我在想到其實台鐵有一個那個鐵道祕境 |
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跟六度風法可以去思考啦那鐵道秘境之後其實有很多的邊緣的地方那個其實可以結合觀光用秘境觀光的方式去思考所以這個再請次長也跟台鐵再討論一下好 謝謝好 那我們針對這個台鐵還有一件事 |
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台鐵楠梓市長還是請你那個看好不好不好意思不好意思本來想讓你休息一下委員你好這個我們一直在要求台鐵台積電站那現在就是台鐵楠梓園區站 |
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那現在的進度市長了解嗎?現在是,剛好市政府現在在辦理啦,可能性那剛之前大概有,上次去考察的時候我們特別提到說這個站是一定要設啦當然這個站名到時候我們會再跟那個地方政府大家再協調一下用什麼樣的站名會比較適合啦但是這個站我想我們是一定會設啦這個方向是一定會設沒問題 |
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那現在進度到哪裡?先是高雄市政府現在辦理它的可行性市政府在辦可行性評估?是 |
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好這個我們一再要求希望交通部能夠格外重視啦就是這個將來是科技經濟魅力華裔的城市嘛那科技經濟我們台積電這個這麼重要的一個產業跟相對的供應鏈所以這個我想重要性不在言下啦所以希望說交通部跟鐵道局這個都會把它仔細的來守住那另外那個男子百慕達 |
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那邊的規劃現在進度怎麼樣蘭子百慕塔那邊包括公路啦包括那個機車道啦那包括 如果是講的是鐵路立體化的鐵路立體化都在那一個區塊那應該是目前應該是地方政府他在提可行性 |
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可能性對 可能性那個鐵路理由的話大概是由地方提上來然後後面審查沒問題以後進到中規的階段才會由鐵道局來進行規劃那現在這幾個應該都是還在所瞭解對都還沒提出來應該是在那個高雄市政府那邊在做可能性的我想市政府評估這個當然就是我們也希望說鐵道局這邊可以一起來思考嘛因為這個整體的問題 |
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有時候地方跟中央的觀念如果沒有先溝通好有時候只是一方在做恐怕不見得會相當的配合所以也希望說鐵道局都可以多跟市政府溝通輔導看怎麼做最好另外就是我們鳳山的鐵路地下化 |
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那跟高鐵再延伸高雄車站到屏東車站那中間那一個就是未來的高鐵跟台鐵車站有共構的可能這個部分鐵道局規劃現在狀況如何 |
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跟委員報告現在是高雄市政府也在同步進行這個路段的鐵路地下化的可行性研究評估當中那我們現在正在進行高鐵的綜合規劃那我們雙方有開過工作會議就這個可能的這些結構形式跟未來的規劃做進一步的討論我想可能也要次長跟交通部多支持我們現在台鐵地下化 |
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本來在京武路就上來了那其實是10年前本來那個時候可能就封鎖了但是我那10年前就要求說他那個地方要保留未來可以出來的可能預留機制所以10年前他就預留一個轉接頭所以今天可以得以延伸也是我們10年前的要求所以才有辦法達成今天想要的 |
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目標那同樣的道理其實我就在講說我們的高鐵站跟鳳山站本來我是希望能夠在同一個地方共購當然就是說以前設計的月台也不符合然後又要鑽過捷運黃線的地下上來要40公尺 |
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然後呢又會拆到大樓所以有諸多的考量所以其實風山車站沒有上來我是覺得心裡是很痛啦但是呢就很務實的工程觀點沒有辦法達到但是我們也要想說以後有這個機會跟可能嘛所以就是再往東再延伸是不是就在做鐵路地下化台鐵地下化的時候跟我們高鐵要往 |
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屏東的方向的時候可以有一個共構的機會這個部分交通部支持嗎我想我們這個後面啦鐵道局這部分會再持續來評估啦我想有它的需求性我想我們交通部一定會全力來支持我想未來我們大寮到 |
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林園的捷運我們應該也會做所以整個路網其實我一直看到台北新北的捷運的路網事實上我就覺得說我們高雄一樣要想很遠嘛那當然交通部跟鐵道局都很幫忙我們現在岡山路竹延伸線也在做然後呢林園小港林園延伸線也在做那未來有機會接到 |
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台南跟屏東的機會我們當然也會盡量去做那樣子的努力嘛然後到臨遠的時候 臨遠要接到大寮未來也是個可行的方案因為高雄關 特別說 |
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在以前當然一定是先重視舊高雄市嘛我們舊高雄縣的建設需要比較遠當然也比較沒有像現在高雄市那麼熱絡但是未來我想這個一定是下期在進步慢慢的會倒過啦 |
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所以你看縣市合併之後從我們高雄市本來的人口密集到目前其實原高雄縣人口增加最多的是仁武跟鳳山那鳳山的西區他們說現在已經飽和了所以就往鳳山的東區在發展 |
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那將來鳳山東區發展再飽和會再往大寮去發展所以這個眼光我覺得我們必須要去考慮到所以這個未來高鐵跟台鐵的共構未來保留未來的機會我是希望說鐵道局把它規劃進來啊交通部也能夠支持這樣OK嗎好這個我想我們請鐵道局我們直接來評估啦我想有很多的建設我今天講不完包括捷運紫瀉我先講一下 |
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其實你只限現在目前高雄市政府的規劃是到樹德科大但是其實我也曾經要求過就是佛光山是世界的宗教聖地啦你今天只要國外人士到高雄來很多人都希望說能夠到這個佛教聖地去走一趟 |
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那現在捷運只限到樹德科大那我也跟高雄市政府要求捷運局那邊我也保持聯繫我說你今天在樹德科大沒有到佛光山其實我們都覺得很可惜啦那現在可能經費的問題也好或者是人口數也好現在不到但是我們要保留到佛光山甚至到東高雄的機會那也許不見得是做捷運也許做輕軌 |
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但是呢我這個路線不能到現在決定之後就把它斷掉我要保留未來再發展再延長再銜接的可能所以這個紫線的部分鐵道局跟交通部有沒有什麼想法未來有機會可以接到佛光山 |
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跟委員報告這個案子現在是鐵道局在審查當中那剛剛委員所提示的這個保留未來的延伸機制我想我們可以在這個審查過程中跟高雄市政府來做討論 |
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我是覺得要拜託鐵路局因為你們比較專業嘛那就說這延伸因為我們現在市府在規劃一定是現行的裁員跟現行的狀況去做可行性評估嘛但是我想到了就是我要想到10年後20年後的狀況所以我剛舉的例子我們鐵路地下化金五路橋那個就是10年後的10年前的思考今天完成那 |
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624.233 |
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高鐵台鐵在鳳山大寮邊界共構那個是未來有機會包括捷運子現在也接到鳳光山我希望說鐵道局根據你們的專業那跟市府討論就是說我不能把這個點未來延伸的機會的希望就把它斷掉我一定要保留未來延伸的機會這樣子你將來整個發展到那個程度的時候才有機會再把它蓋上去這樣好嗎好 |
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625.473 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
635.927 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
那就拜託交通部跟鐵道局就多協助這個部分跟我們市政府一起努力啦我希望說我會再繼續要求這個將來我們有機會可以完成 |