| IVOD_ID |
170032 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170032 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
18 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-17T11:16:56+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-17T11:28:52+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:56 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/d79496a9ef369d5fd28cd73901c415536bbd52fc739e0447d92a49a8a6720cc4d4739e4e9503208b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝衣鳯 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:16:56 - 11:28:52 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-17T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於經濟部主管 ：經濟作業基金、水資源作業基金、經濟特別收入基金及核能發電後端營運基金。(詢答)
【所列預算提案於115年6月25日(星期四)下午5時截止收件】
【6月17日及6月18日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席我想請經濟部拱部長請經濟部拱部長 |
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部長早安我想請教一下川普總統說就是美伊的MOU19號簽你看會不會簽在哪裡簽看起來應該是有那樣的跡象在瑞士簽他在G7說的吧另外有一個說法是說因為 |
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川普總統去G7嘛然後那個時程上可能會有一點來不及不會在19號他會用線上簽的方式電子簽的方式19號線上簽是不是這個可能還要再了解一下不過看起來是有是應該會簽的那如果簽了以後是不是代表了 |
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未來的這個中東的衝突戰事減緩那赫木茲海峽以及就是這個相關的這些伊朗境內的這些天然氣還有油的生產什麼時候可以恢復正常 |
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周邊的供應什麼時候會回復這個趨勢看起來是好的啦對 如果是這樣的話這中間那個時間可能還是有一些delay的狀況第一個就是說因為太多的船在赫姆斯海峽要排隊那這個可能時程上會有一些延誤那另外一個就是有關於設備因為在戰爭時候受損比如說卡達 |
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它的天然氣設備很多是受到損害那要維修可能要一段時間所以我想方向上是正面的但是那個時間不會一夕翻轉而是逐漸的逐漸的恢復我問了就是我們中油的這個油價在這幾個月以來因為中東衝突好像是不是已經漲了多少% |
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我們大概漲了十幾吧17%那天然氣呢天然氣的部分呢天然氣的部分民生是沒有漲那工業的部分大概調兩次的5%吧5%是不是好像兩次的樣子多久可以回到這個中東通俗之前 |
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那要看整個國際的這個油價的趨勢我是說多久 你預估嘛 你們有沒有預估因為它這個整個慢慢的這個可以回復啊 |
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這是中小企業 還有民生最重要的因為你看到嘛就是 鼎泰豐他今天宣布了他的就是說售價要調漲3.5%到8點多%就是平均在5%左右代表了餐廳的營業成本已經在增加了 那 |
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如果在這個就是說我們就是一些零售的就是食品業的這樣子餐廳的價格增加恐怕會影響到整體的物價都在開始就進一步的調整那調整之後恐怕以物價的僵固性來講就不可能就是下來嘛 |
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那在這個情況下,所以民眾會擔心的是什麼時候可以恢復到一個平均的成本嗎?因為現在民生的電價、油價基本上都沒有反應,都沒有漲 |
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那個餐廳啊統裝瓦斯基本上也都沒有漲那當然它的反應物價可能不是因為油氣的關係 燃氣的關係可能是其他的成本上升那不過就是說我們行政院它都有一個物價的一個督導匯報 |
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每個禮拜召開 現在副院長都有召開我們會持續的觀察這個情況當然這一個月是有超過2%但是從主席總署的判斷來講的話全年還是可以在2%以下但是我剛剛特別提到隨著這個局勢的和緩如果這個油價有比較明顯的和緩下來的話我們也會適度的反映對 那什麼時候會回復到 |
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那就要看整個油價的一些狀況你那個油價的那個什麼時候會回復啊因為它像鼎泰豐它那是大型的連鎖的嘛是不是那那個東西在台灣有非常多大型的連鎖的相關的都是以這樣子的營運來做 |
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相關的就是有中央廚房等等或者是在地也需要有這樣子人力的調配等那這個情況都有可能會影響到那所以是不是未來怎麼樣子會降低這個民生物價上漲的壓力那經濟部怎麼做呢是 報告委員因為我們這個 |
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民生這個部分有關於相關的成本的問題這個本來就是我們的政策執行所在所以即便在這個國際的油價或氣價上漲的時候我們對於民生的用氣跟用電或用油基本上都是減緩的沒有大幅的上漲 |
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另外當然企業界他們在做他們成本反應也不單單只是燃料的成本還有其他部分比如說租金的成本也好或者是說因為現在我們嘉興今年還是比較踴躍 |
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那是可能也要適度的反映在這個價格上吧但是如果是因為這個加薪所反映出來我們也覺得這個是一個好事啦但是就是說我們的目的還是希望說全年的這個物價上漲率可以在2%以下這個還是我們的目標 |
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是啊還有就是說當然還希望說就是中油跟台電的這個就是虧損能夠逐漸減少嗎是不是因為如果就是說那個中東通途所造成的油價的成本上升那對於這個他們所要負擔的穩定物價的成本就相對的提高嗎是不是對因為到那這也會涉及到預算的這個問題嘛對不對 |
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對因為到上個禮拜為止中油在這個油價的吸收成本大概176億那當然也許還會再增加一點點也不一定但是我相信是已經和緩下來了往正面的發展那我們也跟行政院也答應就是說我們從三個方面來支持中油的一些發展包括預算的撥補的部分還有這個 |
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投資資金公務預算的這個增加的部分還有這個融資的部分的協助那這個也感謝行政院已經開始著手這樣的這個協助了好那我還要問到就是說佐水溪的這個 |
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水涵養的問題那我們知道說像那個台積電它在日本的熊本的地方它也協助就是當地的農田在收耕的時候養水去復養它的地下水層那 |
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對於我們濁水溪的這個相關的地下水層的養水那水利署有沒有做進一步的因為這涉及到就是說現在是那個極端氣候嘛那有可能會面臨到缺水或者是未來如果我們彰化要增加工業區甚至像台積電這樣子的一個產業的時候怎麼能夠增加相關的用水啊是不是 |
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報告委員 委員所談的這個方向是非常正確的我們在左水溪的河道內目前在赤潼林內的附近就河道裡面我們有大概是250公頃的土地把它圍起來 |
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那這邊就可以平常注水進去那注水進去它的效益很大就是一年大概將近6000萬噸的水它會慢慢流到我們中下游因為整個彰化雲林地區都是地層下限區所以這個水質補充以後 |
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對整個地層下陷幫忙很大然後第二個部分就是我們為了減緩很多地層下陷高鐵的沿線所以將來會做一些農田把這個地下水用補助的方式進來所以謝謝委員給我們指導這個具體方向這個東西也要農水署嘛對不對那是不是我也會再跟 |
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跟農水署跟農業部去做相關的要求那是不是讓水地署這邊也協助共同來補充彰化的地下水源讓彰化的用水無虞好不好那委員因為我們現在有地層下市房次的小組跟推動小組我們定期開會所以委員剛剛所談的我們會落實要求農業部一起來努力 |
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好好謝謝 最後給我一個一分鐘我問一下部長就是在捐助中小企業現在面臨到就是雙軸轉型就是淨零跟數位轉型這個問題那再加上現在也有相關的 |
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還有301的關稅的問題喔那怎麼樣協助中小企業在這一波當中能夠就是說不是用不只是用補貼因為用補貼或者是你們當初都是用計畫申請嘛那現在他們可能面臨到的就是說他們也不知道怎麼樣子進行這個數位轉型或者是他們在數位轉型能不能符合國際的趨勢然後變 |
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因應這樣子整個就是說局勢的變化那經濟部怎麼做包委員除了我們當然有被動的門打開接受申請之外包括包括您剛才提到的這個計畫的補助也好或者是說這個貸款的補助也好但是我們也有主動式的就是我們有成立一個輔導團北中南東 |
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660.311 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
689.711 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
那各有責任區然後去跟工協會、廠聯會合作然後把這個可能需要這個協助的這些中小微企業我們主動的去去他們做輔導先做診斷診斷以後有分層次他的數位轉型到達什麼樣的層次需要什麼樣的幫助那我們會借引介相關的資源給他讓他可以真的可以升級轉型變成從被動之外我們也有主動的部分 |
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690.311 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
712.205 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
對 因為中小企業在這一波裡面的確受到國際情勢的變化影響非常大那非常需要經濟部來協助希望說我們中小企業還有相關的顧問團能夠協助他們對於節能以及未來的數位的轉型都能夠轉得順利可以嗎是 好 謝謝 |