| IVOD_ID |
169998 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169998 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-15T11:51:47+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-15T12:03:54+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:07 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/66bc201768d4deabdb428352fba5cb1daa88dbdebdab583a520180024c885d09543d4706013f98b45ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王世堅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:51:47 - 12:03:54 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-15T09:30:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：審查「所得稅法」28案：（僅詢答）
一、本院委員賴士葆等23人、委員柯志恩等19人、委員李彥秀等16人分別擬具「所得稅法第十四條及第十七條條文修正草案」等3案。
二、本院台灣民眾黨黨團、國民黨黨團、委員郭國文等16人、委員陳菁徽等17人、委員羅明才等18人、委員張智倫等18人、委員徐巧芯等18人、委員王義川等19人、委員陳菁徽等23人、委員王鴻薇等17人、委員羅廷瑋等23人、委員顏寬恒等18人、委員王正旭等18人、委員謝龍介等16人、委員廖偉翔等16人、委員賴士葆等18人、委員許宇甄等19人、委員翁曉玲等28人、委員林倩綺等20人、委員邱鎮軍等17人、委員洪孟楷等21人、委員羅智強等16人、委員賴士葆等25人、委員郭國文等19人分別擬具「所得稅法第十七條條文修正草案」等24案。【後2案須經各黨團簽署不復議同意書】
三、本院委員蔡春綢等18人擬具「所得稅法第十七條及第一百二十六條條文修正草案」案。
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蔣麗芸議員 |
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你剛才講的是沒錯啦健保本來就沒有列入這個扣除的這個範圍不過現在列舉扣除的已經夠不公平啦怎麼說呢雖然沒有把健保列入但是把這個保險費把勞保費跟一般的商業保險列在一起那勞保費這個是 |
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強制的社會保險這是正確的但是你把它一起列進去在列舉扣除額裡面這個列舉扣除額總額才兩萬四那我們如果以平均薪資四萬七千的壽星階級來講他一個月勞保費一千一百四十五元一年就要一萬三千七百四十元請問啦兩萬四的列舉扣除額扣除掉 |
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一萬三千七百四十元以後所剩無幾不是嗎才剩一萬零兩百六十元讓他可以去保民間這個商業保險真正的讓他未來退休以後可以受益的很大一部分是這個部分那我請問 |
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一年售額只能夠列一萬零兩百六十元你能夠買怎麼樣的商業保險怎麼樣的人數保險現在利率又這麼低那個是聊勝於無啦那剛才這個我們燕秀委員提到的軍公教這很對我今天用另外一個名詞來包括 |
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深斗小民就是包括軍公教跟所有壽星階層在這個稅制上是如何的不公平我先問一下這個坐月子中心部長你上回有答應我說要請負稅署研議評估就是說要把它納入要把它納入醫藥及生育費這一個部分 |
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醫藥生育費的列舉扣除了不曉得有沒有評估了報告委員 其實我們講作業值中心因為他的名目非常非常的多如果是跟醫療費用有關 結果是怎樣就是如果跟醫療費用生育費有關的我們本來就不會讓他扣如果他是譬如營養品啊我舉個例子 營養品啊又來了 |
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對 坐月子的你婦人是不是更需要營養補償我們政府怎麼計較這一點點呢這一筆費用是醫療的這個才給這個是保健的是營養品的這個就不能我跟你講你這樣嚴厲評估這個還不行你先請回那個部長這個議題 |
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再給你一個月的時間 你給我答覆好不好現在少子化已經是國安問題我們台灣現在是全世界 部長記得喔不是全亞洲 全世界生育率最低的國家那我們國家在跟他們計較這一點點坐月子中心的小錢嗎 |
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富人同胞生育小孩以後更需要把身體保養好這樣人家才敢生他也才有辦法再回到職場不是嗎所以我覺得你現在我回去評估清楚了我現在在講說有錢人啊 |
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在我看 我們2300萬人就分兩種人一個有錢人 一個就生斗小民好 那這兩種我們重要的兩種分類裡面負者越負啦部長我相信你知道嘛我們股票從不到2萬點現在到4萬5千點啦房價更是房價的那個暴漲 |
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這幾年來從2020年到2024年這四年時間全台灣七大都會區的漲幅是53.2 |
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全台灣房價漲幅53.2好啦 擁有房子炒股票的負責月付但是我們對他們的遺產稅的部分我就舉去年為例去年啊 試用20%最高級距的有733位那麼他們總資產達到2600億 |
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也就是說平均一位是3.65億比前一年度平均每一件又增加了0.35億我們從這遺產裡面就可以看清楚確實富者越富 |
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那 好啦 結果我們現在評估說那 這個免稅額不管是有錢人的或者我們生斗小民的你們都用CPI的指數來評估欸 奇怪 CPI是通膨指數為數眾多的生斗小民物價通膨越痛苦 |
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結果反而造就有錢人他們的免稅積聚更減少免稅金額更擴大我就舉你現在列的那個免稅的積聚來講你對有錢人的部分你們打算從這個免稅金額 |
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這個遺產稅從一千三百三十三萬要調高到一千四百六十萬也就是說通膨之下你們一下子就給一百四十萬的免稅空間馬上一年之內就增加那你對生土小民呢對生土小民有啦 你們有調 |
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調我舉106年到115年 總共調了三次每一次啊 4000塊有一次得證5000塊再來馬上115年這一次 要降到4000塊對有錢人 一條一免稅146萬高達1460萬 |
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那一般生土小民 嘿 你的免稅額薪資免稅額好啦 小調個四千一整年物價漲那麼多你免稅額調個四千這就是我們政府的態度嗎對生土小民就這麼嚴苛嗎社會富裕的成果生土小民沒辦法去分時到 |
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股票的紅利房價上漲的紅利那至少你讓我們在辛苦所得的薪資上能夠更大的空間去免稅這才是正確的嘛這才是大有為政府應該做的嘛不是嗎所以這一點我希望部長你回去想想你的看法呢跟委員報告在薪資所得的特別扣除額裡面 |
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法律規定就是3%如果CPI跟上一次調整有累積到3%那就按照實際的CPI調整指數調整那遺產稅遺證稅的部分是要累積到10%以上的時候來做調整所以兩者還是有差距所以在調整的頻率上所得稅還是比較頻率就很快就調整的紀律或時間會比較接近只有這個標準有差部長我就知道你會這麼說 |
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你們總是有辦法幫這些超級富豪啊就想到 欸 怎麼樣欸 就有這一句話可以脫掉對啦是10%但是 欸 部長但是CPI這個10%對富有的人你像對郭台銘 對他們這些人而言那10% |
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一百趴他也沒差他物價 每一樣的物價都兩倍 他沒差啦他開不用怕啦但是對生頭小民那三趴不得了耶那不得了耶所以我認為來到三趴對生頭小民是痛苦的極限痛苦的極限所以我認為說這個 |
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免稅的金額要再擴大這一點你再回去考慮好不好一樣一個月的時間給我答覆好不好好的 給您書面報告 謝謝好 你要書面給我那是最好那我再來要提到的就是說要預防說我們台灣喔不要到時候變成就是說只有富人活得起的地方這個有名的經濟學雜誌Nambio這個裡面統計 |
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我就講台北就好啦 其他地方不講我們大台北區的生活成本指數已經超過日本東京了 |
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日本東京是全世界有名 雄霸全世界各大都會區首屈一指的物價指數 生活指數結果我們台北竟然超越了它我們的生活城市指數54.7 |
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693.054 |
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東京才54.1所以部長我提醒我們大家共同努力的目標就是要讓我們社會能夠朝均富如果大家成不了富沒辦法均富但至少大家要過著像樣一點的生活不要為生活所苦不要每天就是窮忙忙完了你是窮 |
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696.294 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
718.523 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
那一天到晚就在窮忙中打滾一天到晚辛苦的過生活這一點是我希望我們部長後好好把這句話聲勢我們一起來努力好不好好 謝謝委員那個報告給我們三個月時間把它整理出來給您好 但是坐月子中心一個月喔坐月子中心一個月喔好 謝謝 |
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725.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
727.908 |
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好,我们结束王世坚委员 |