| IVOD_ID |
169937 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169937 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
18 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-10T11:48:32+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-10T12:00:27+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:55 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/dee24285c0428ea59117f3b9dfaf201e21dd72608bfb9572519726d100e90c4d4d2da20803297bd05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅明才 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:48:32 - 12:00:27 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於中央銀行（含中央造幣廠、中央印製廠）。（詢答及處理）
二、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分，關於財政部主管中國輸出入銀行、臺灣金融控股股份有限公司（含臺灣銀行股份有限公司、臺銀人壽保險股份有限公司、臺銀綜合證券股份有限公司）。（僅詢答）
【6月10日及11日兩天一次會】
【預算提案截止時間：第一案6月10日（三）上午10時，第二案6月10日（三）下午5時】） |
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主席 二委員處列是關於的主席可不可以請接續那個台灣金控好了請台灣金控林董事長吳嘉曉總經理還有吳總經理 台灣人壽台灣人壽張董事長中和證券李素森台育營中和證券李董事長 |
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林董事長你好委員好那剛剛我在台下聽委員的一些質詢我聽了也很感動就似乎說對你們有很大的期許那希望說你們能趕快認真努力急起直追那我問一下台灣人壽好了張志宏張董事長 |
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你們都說你們有信心還會認真什麼利差損什麼其實我已經聽了十幾年了我十年前我就跟你講說我對你們期許很高結果今天還是有人繼續期許而已公股銀行在這樣搞下去就是等著被市場收拾而已啊那我問你最後會賺的是哪一家壽險公司 |
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如果今年的話我至少超過其他公股公股人壽問題就來了我們財政部部長也在那邊他一定就忍不住要發飆你每次都只是公股跟公股比公股就是一個萎縮的市場以前大概30年前所有的市場全都是公股的台銀是這一支結果現在變成怎麼樣 |
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產不能賭啊怎麼辦你們為什麼不能向富邦你們為什麼不能向國泰人壽這個跟會員報告一下像富邦或國泰的話基本上壽險公司要賺錢的話基本上靠投資賺錢比較有機會啦之前為什麼那個山上人壽你們不去把他併下來 |
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因為我們體質還沒調整完整就併別人的話我覺得這個風險很大你現在手上自營的部分有多少目前我有4800億的資產好 4800億那你最近你都買了一些什麼類股不要講個股好了講類股太敏感當然就是也AI跟金融股為主你有買到AI嗎有 |
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那你AI的獲利應該很高啊是比如說你如果買到我們新店的國巨那你的那個獲利是應該多少你跟委員報告今年的話如果不管是放在OCI或TPL的話我今年金融資產在股票方面的話我的未死的利益就超過120億了 |
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所以100多億對 100多億所以你這次壓 重壓AI的股票也不是重壓就是說我們靠著投資機率來配置這些股票我們不是完全投資在100%放在AI我們也放在一些金融股或電信股都有只是說我們在AI的股放了還不少因為不便再細問不過 |
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我剛跟吳趙遠他的期許我也是再講一次我也是對你們有期許希望你們表現好一點不然掛著一個精緻招牌就在外面的市站一直降一直降令人覺得很惋惜另外證券證券是李肅生 李董事長你們現在大概每一天的交易量都那麼高你們在市站排名第幾名 |
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我們排名第幾名 我確確是不太 二十五名 第二十五名我們總共有四十五家證券公司啦對阿 那個其他的單獨的單一可能偏鄉地區的小券商號子就一個兩個你們現在有幾間號子 |
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我們現在有七家分公司七家包括經濟部是有七家的自營的部分現在表現得怎麼樣自營今年是不錯的我看你們也是要如果真的要試戰要加強那 |
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因為台銀本身有它本身存在的優勢你們要發揮那個合縱連橫的效應出來嘛比如說你們IPO的輔導今年大概輔導幾家 |
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跟委員報告因為我們的資本額只有30億所以我們IPO我們只能做協辦我們不能做主辦至於在增資跟花債部分的話我們就可以做主辦我們今年已經有爭取到一家主辦然後在林董事長的 |
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這樣子啦 今年還是一樣在這個地方啦也是期許 明年你們成績當然要交出來啦 |
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其實你們也不用做太多事你說拜託林董事長黃仁勛來的時候你說不然我那個趙元燕我也跟在旁邊你台銀就變成AI金控股了啊 |
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因為他們一年現在做的業績很大你們要跟他黏著度要夠是好不好好 謝謝不然的話至少他總部要蓋你要主動去拜訪我要連帶我錢要借給你有一些業務未來的兩千個員工你所有的薪資什麼金流都可以經過台銀為什麼台銀你說你也是台灣人愛台灣就用台銀可以說嗎是 謝謝拜託你們是多加強一下好 |
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不要讓台銀那麼好的一個公司每下玉礦謝謝接著麻煩蔡偉豪 央行總裁現在請央行的央行總裁央行總裁你好 |
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你們兩個很厲害啊一個彭金榮又是楊金榮啊 上次都講過了啊現在每天的成交量都一兆八千億甚至兩兆有此一說啦央行如果願意把台灣變成亞洲的金融中心大幅度的開放很快可能日均量可能會到突破兩兆變成是常態 |
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因為央行有管制現在自然人的部分自然人的部分會出去每一年限額是多少公司法人的部分會出去限額是多少我們 |
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個人的話我們是五千萬吧五千是美金嗎那個是一千萬個人是一千萬個人是一千萬什麼美金嗎美金所以個人我們現在國內有沒有外匯管制台灣有沒有外匯管制只有這一塊而已就是個人匯出去的話是 |
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雖然我們有這樣的興趣但是個人是1000萬企業是1億1億美金都是30億但是如果你有需要的話我們稍微看一看你都可以有沒有考慮說因為現在通膨而且這一波相較於這個整個我們150兆的市值的市場來看 |
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這個限制會不會有點嚴格因為請問美國第一大市場還有我們現在第五大了第一大 第二大 第三大有這樣的限制嗎有啊 |
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怎麼限制哪一個像中國大陸限制他才延耶我們不要跟大陸比啊因為這個時刻我們就要跟美國跟英國跟新加坡新加坡沒那麼延啊我跟委員報告啦對於法人來講的話呢我們都沒有限制你看看外資他只要登記的時候他都可以進來了你看他登記而已喔他就可以進來了沒有審查 |
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你看這個是很自由的喔那你有沒有考慮說對全世界宣布就是台灣是歡迎全世界只有登記只有登記他就可以進來的話那不是很歡迎嗎 |
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你可以講啊而且我跟委員報告那現在外資要進來我們的股市非常非常的方便而且他的金額都非常的龐大 |
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今年進來的累積大概進台灣買股市大概有多少金額他很大我現在每天因為我們每天他都是變化的很大經費入是多少我跟委員報告不敢我跟委員報告事實上他進來的金額比以前都至少都漲兩倍到三倍兩倍本來一倍是多少本來一倍基礎是多少 |
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這個私下我再跟你報告好了啦基本上我就說他的量是很大的而且他進來是很大他要出去的時候我量大那再問一下總裁究竟央行歡不歡迎全世界的資金來台灣購買股票 |
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當它進出進出那麼頻繁而且金額都那麼龐大的時候你覺得我們中央銀行還要在那邊講著說趕快再大多一點我會這樣子嗎我想中央銀行不會做這種事情你會反過來說我拒絕全世界的資金進來當然啦我們也不會啊所以只要那麼的自由最後一個問題就是說現在股市現在熱絡的情況央行會不會打壓 |
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自由市場自由市場要怎麼打壓呢你只能就說是投資人你只能就說投資人要警告警告他說喔有些時候你的level是太高你要小心金融機構你也要警告他說喔那個這個錢太集中在股市也不是很好頂多就是這樣子而已啦總的這個不是央行業務啊對當然不是啊而且如果 |
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所以我剛剛也有講啊我剛剛也有講就是說這個是金管會都已經在密切注意這件事情了不是不是 大家也不要太相信央行總裁講的話因為我上次兩次被騙上當啊一個是黃金啊 一個是比特幣啊我跟委員報告真的比特幣跟黃金都在下跌謝謝羅民財委員的支持 |
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主席，各位委員、出列席官員，大家好。 |
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主席，可否請臺灣金控凌董事長、臺灣銀行吳總經理，還有臺灣人壽張董事長及綜合證券李董事長？ |
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主席（吳委員秉叡） |
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請凌董事長、吳總經理、張董事長及李董事長。 |
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凌董事長，你好。 |
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凌董事長忠嫄 |
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2026-06-10T11:49:07.168000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:49:07.408000+08:00 |
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委員好。 |
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1 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:49:09.509000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:49:25.132000+08:00 |
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剛剛我在臺下聽委員的一些質詢，我聽得也很感動啊，似乎對你們有很大的期許，希望你們能趕快認真努力的急起直追。 |
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0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:49:26.052000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:49:53.142000+08:00 |
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我問一下臺灣人壽張董事長，你們都說你們有信心，會認真，什麼利差損什麼的，其實我已經聽了十幾年了，我十年前就說我對你們的期許很高，結果今天還是有人繼續期許而已，公股銀行再這樣搞下去，就是等著被市場收拾而已啊！ |
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0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:49:54.103000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:49:57.286000+08:00 |
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我問你，最會賺的是哪一家壽險公司？ |
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1 |
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張董事長志宏 |
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2026-06-10T11:49:59.754000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:50:06.659000+08:00 |
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如果今年的話，我至少超過其他公股人壽，包含第一金跟合庫。 |
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0.68 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:50:06.659000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:50:28.753000+08:00 |
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問題就來了，我們財政部部長也在那邊，他一定就忍不住要發飆，你每次都只跟公股比，公股就是一個萎縮的市場，大概三十年前，所有的市場全都是公股的，臺銀是讓人比大拇指的，結果現在變成怎麼樣？ |
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0.89 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:50:30.155000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:50:30.635000+08:00 |
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慘不忍睹啊！ |
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0.4 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:50:32.956000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:50:35.217000+08:00 |
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怎麼辦？ |
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1 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:50:35.217000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:50:36.498000+08:00 |
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你們為什麼不能像富邦？ |
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0.9 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:50:37.098000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:50:41.940000+08:00 |
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你們為什麼不能像國泰人壽？ |
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0.917 |
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張董事長志宏 |
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2026-06-10T11:50:41.940000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:50:52.465000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，像富邦或國泰的話，基本上，壽險公司要賺錢的話，靠投資賺錢比較有機會啦。 |
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0.972 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:50:52.685000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:50:55.186000+08:00 |
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之前為什麼你們不去把三商人壽併下來？ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.765 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
張董事長志宏 |
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2026-06-10T11:50:56.915000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:00.097000+08:00 |
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因為我們體質還沒調整完整就去併別人的話，我覺得風險很大。 |
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0.962 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:00.537000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:02.239000+08:00 |
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你現在手上自營的部分有多少？ |
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1 |
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張董事長志宏 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:03.699000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:06.641000+08:00 |
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目前有4,800億的資產。 |
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0.875 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:06.641000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:11.044000+08:00 |
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好，4,800億，你最近都買了什麼類股？ |
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0.923 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:11.685000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:13.626000+08:00 |
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不要講個股，講個股太敏感。 |
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0.909 |
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張董事長志宏 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:14.486000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:16.347000+08:00 |
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當然都是以AI跟金融股為主。 |
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0.846 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:16.868000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:17.248000+08:00 |
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你有買到AI嗎？有。 |
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1 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:19.397000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:21.258000+08:00 |
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那你AI類股的獲利應該很高啊！是。 |
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0.867 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:21.638000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:28.302000+08:00 |
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譬如你如果買到我們新店的國巨，那你的獲利是應該多少？ |
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0.958 |
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張董事長志宏 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:29.442000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:39.027000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，今年的話，不管是放在OCR或TPL，今年金融資產在股票方面，我的未實利益就超過120億。 |
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0.952 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:41.744000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:44.547000+08:00 |
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所以有一百多億？ |
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0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
張董事長志宏 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:44.547000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:46.048000+08:00 |
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對，一百多億。 |
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0.6 |
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羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:46.048000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:48.490000+08:00 |
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OK，所以你這次重押AI類的股票？ |
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0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
張董事長志宏 |
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2026-06-10T11:51:49.531000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:52:01.702000+08:00 |
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不是重押，我們是靠著投資紀律來配置這些股票，不是完全、百分之百放在AI，一些金融股或電信股也都有，只是說我們在AI股放的還不少。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.828 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:52:04.305000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:52:04.785000+08:00 |
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好，我不便再細問啦！ |
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0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:52:04.785000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:52:23.597000+08:00 |
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不過剛剛吳召委提到對你們的期許，我也再講一次，我也對你們有期許，希望你們表現好一點，不然掛著一個金字招牌，結果在外面的市占一直降一直降，令人覺得很惋惜啊！ |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:52:24.777000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:52:36.301000+08:00 |
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另外，我要請問臺銀證券李董事長，你們現在每天的交易量都那麼高，你們的市占排名第幾名？ |
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0.789 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
李董事長樹森 |
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2026-06-10T11:52:39.698000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:52:44.162000+08:00 |
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排名我不太確定……同仁說是第25名。 |
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0.462 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:52:44.782000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:52:46.804000+08:00 |
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第25名是倒數啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
李董事長樹森 |
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2026-06-10T11:52:49.326000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:52:51.468000+08:00 |
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總共有45家證券公司，我們第25名的話…… |
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0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:52:52.629000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:52:58.073000+08:00 |
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其他單獨的、單一的，可能偏鄉地區的小券商，號子就一個兩個，你們現在有幾間號子？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
李董事長樹森 |
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2026-06-10T11:53:01.423000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:53:06.325000+08:00 |
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我們現在有7家分公司，包括經濟部是有7家營業據點。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.81 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:53:06.985000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:53:09.806000+08:00 |
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自營的部分，現在表現得怎麼樣？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
李董事長樹森 |
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2026-06-10T11:53:09.806000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:53:11.427000+08:00 |
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自營今年是不錯的。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-06-10T11:53:11.427000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
1 |
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2026-06-10T11:53:13.508000+08:00 |
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不錯喔？嗯。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:53:13.508000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:53:23.017000+08:00 |
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好啦，我看你們也是真的在市占的部分要加強啦，因為臺銀本身有其存在的優勢，你們要發揮那個合縱連橫的效應出來嘛，譬如說你們IPO的輔導，今年大概輔導幾家？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.841 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
李董事長樹森 |
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2026-06-10T11:53:31.308000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:53:45.082000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，因為我們的資本額只有30億，所以IPO我們只能做協辦，我們不能做主辦，至於在增資跟發債部分，我們就可以做主辦。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.981 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
李董事長樹森 |
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2026-06-10T11:53:45.082000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:53:50.087000+08:00 |
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我們今年已經有爭取到一家主辦，在凌董事長的協助下，我們爭取一家主辦，我們光主辦的費用，再加上……因為我們有參與投資…… |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.373 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
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2026-06-10T11:53:51.088000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:53:53.050000+08:00 |
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這樣子啦，今年還是一樣在這個地方啦，我們也是期許明年你們要把成績單交出來啦，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.789 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
李董事長樹森 |
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2026-06-10T11:53:53.050000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
1 |
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2026-06-10T11:54:11.307000+08:00 |
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是，謝謝。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-06-10T11:54:11.307000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T11:54:23.129000+08:00 |
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其實你們也不用做太多事，你就拜託凌董事長，黃仁勳來辦兆元宴的時候，讓你也跟在旁邊，臺銀就變成AI金控股了啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.837 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-06-10T11:54:24.472000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-06-10T11:54:24.952000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
因為他們一年做的業績很大，你們跟他的黏著度要夠，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.96 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
李董事長樹森 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-06-10T11:54:24.972000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-06-10T11:54:24.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-06-10T11:54:24.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-06-10T11:54:27.614000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
不然的話，至少他要蓋總部的時候，你要主動去拜訪，表明願意聯貸，願意把錢借給他啊，有一些業務啊，未來2,000個員工的所有薪資、金流都可以經過臺銀啊，為什麼選臺銀？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.691 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-06-10T11:54:27.614000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-06-10T11:54:27.915000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
你可以跟他說：你也是臺灣人，愛臺灣就用臺銀啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-06-10T11:54:27.915000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-06-10T11:54:28.915000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
會不會說啦？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
李董事長樹森 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-06-10T11:54:28.035000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-06-10T11:54:28.055000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
是，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-06-10T11:54:28.055000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-06-10T11:54:28.255000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
拜託你們多加強一下啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-06-10T11:54:54.675000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-06-10T11:54:59.279000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
不要讓臺銀那麼好的一個公司每下愈況。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
李董事長樹森 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-06-10T11:54:59.279000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-06-10T11:55:00.360000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-06-10T11:55:00.360000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-06-10T11:55:01.360000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
麻煩召委，我請央行總裁。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-06-10T11:55:01.501000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-06-10T11:55:02.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
現在請央行楊總裁。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-06-10T11:55:04.023000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-06-10T11:55:04.403000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
楊總裁，你好。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-06-10T11:55:04.403000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-06-10T11:55:15.820000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
羅委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-06-10T11:55:15.820000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-06-10T11:55:21.766000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
你們兩個很厲害啊，一個彭金隆，一個楊金龍，上次都講過了啊！哪裡！哪裡！ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.724 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-06-10T11:55:21.766000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-06-10T11:55:22.766000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
謝謝你。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-06-10T11:55:22.146000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-06-10T11:55:51.656000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
現在每天的成交量都1兆8,000億，甚至2兆，有此一說啦，央行如果願意把臺灣變成亞洲的金融中心，大幅度的開放，很快可能日均量突破2兆，而且變成是常態，但因為央行有管制啊，現在自然人的部分，每一年匯出去的限額是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-06-10T11:55:52.356000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-06-10T11:55:55.179000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
公司法人的部分，匯出去的限額又是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-06-10T11:56:00.460000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-06-10T11:56:05.424000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
個人的話，我們是5,000萬吧，法人是1億…… |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.643 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-06-10T11:56:06.625000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-06-10T11:56:13.090000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
是美金嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-06-10T11:56:14.932000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-06-10T11:56:16.213000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
喔，同仁說個人是1,000萬…… |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.444 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-06-10T11:56:16.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-06-10T11:56:18.115000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
1,000萬什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-06-10T11:56:18.115000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-06-10T11:56:18.755000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
美金嗎？美金。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-06-10T11:56:20.917000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-06-10T11:56:22.638000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
我們現在國內有沒有外匯管制？ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-06-10T11:56:23.819000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-06-10T11:56:25.320000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
臺灣有沒有外匯管制？ |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-06-10T11:56:25.661000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-06-10T11:56:26.501000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
只有這一塊而已。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-06-10T11:56:27.402000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-06-10T11:56:29.264000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
就是個人匯出去的話，是…… |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-06-10T11:56:29.944000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-06-10T11:56:30.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
匯入匯出……不過雖然我們有這樣的限制，但是…… |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-06-10T11:56:30.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-06-10T11:56:31.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
匯出去多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-06-10T11:56:31.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-06-10T11:56:32.904000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
1,000萬美金，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.143 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-06-10T11:56:31.004000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-06-10T11:56:31.205000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
個人是1,000萬，企業是1億，但是……1億？ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-06-10T11:56:31.205000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-06-10T11:56:31.345000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
1億美金就是30億啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-06-10T11:56:31.345000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-06-10T11:56:33.405000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
對，但是如果你有需要的話，我們稍微看一看，也都可以。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-06-10T11:56:33.506000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-06-10T11:57:02.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
有沒有考慮，因為現在通膨，而且這一波相較於我們整個150兆市值的市場來看，這個限制會不會有點嚴格？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-06-10T11:57:02.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-06-10T11:57:05.087000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
不會喔！不會！ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-06-10T11:57:05.087000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-06-10T11:57:13.156000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
請問，美國是第一大市場，我們現在是第五大了，第一大、第二大、第三大有這樣的限制嗎？有啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.946 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-06-10T11:57:14.037000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-06-10T11:57:14.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
怎麼限制的？ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-06-10T11:57:14.597000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-06-10T11:57:15.218000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
哪一個？ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-06-10T11:57:15.218000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-06-10T11:57:17.079000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
像中國大陸的限制才嚴呢！ |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-06-10T11:57:18.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-06-10T11:57:25.202000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
不是，我們不要跟大陸比，這個時刻我們就要跟美國、英國、新加坡來比，新加坡沒有那麼嚴啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.838 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-06-10T11:57:27.964000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-06-10T11:57:44.723000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
跟委員報告，對於法人來講的話，我們都沒有限制，你看看外資只要登記就都可以進來，登記而已喔，就可以進來了，也沒有審查，這個是很自由的喔。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-06-10T11:57:45.704000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-06-10T11:57:52.253000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
那你有沒有考慮對全世界宣布，臺灣歡迎全世界…… |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-06-10T11:57:54.456000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-06-10T11:57:58.321000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
我們政府是只要登記就可以進來的話，那不是很歡迎嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0.739 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-06-10T11:58:00.202000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-06-10T11:58:00.943000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
你可以講啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-06-10T11:58:02.024000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-06-10T11:58:05.727000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
我跟委員報告，現在外資要進來我們的股市非常非常方便，而且它的金額都非常的龐大。 |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.972 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-06-10T11:58:17.456000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-06-10T11:58:23.138000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
今年進來的，累積喔，進臺灣買股市的大概有多少金額？ |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-06-10T11:58:23.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-06-10T11:58:27.319000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
很大，因為每天的變化很大，所以…… |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.615 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-06-10T11:58:29.480000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-06-10T11:58:30.020000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
淨匯入是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-06-10T11:58:32.041000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-06-10T11:58:39.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
跟委員報告，事實上進來的金額比以前都至少漲兩倍到三倍。 |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-06-10T11:58:39.664000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-06-10T11:58:40.804000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
兩倍，本來是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-06-10T11:58:41.584000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-06-10T11:58:43.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
本來的基礎是多少？ |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-06-10T11:58:45.692000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-06-10T11:58:48.754000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
這個我私下再跟你報告好了，基本上…… |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-06-10T11:58:48.754000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-06-10T11:58:49.754000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
你不是說兩倍？ |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-06-10T11:58:49.154000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-06-10T11:58:54.638000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
我就是說它的量是很大的，除了進來的很大，出去的時候也非常大。 |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0.704 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-06-10T11:58:54.919000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-06-10T11:59:02.324000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
再問一下總裁，究竟央行歡不歡迎全世界的資金來臺灣購買股票？ |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-06-10T11:59:04.485000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-06-10T11:59:16.971000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
當它進出進出那麼頻繁，而且金額都那麼龐大的時候，你覺得我們中央銀行還要在那邊講趕快再多一點，我會這樣子嗎？那你…… |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
0.961 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-06-10T11:59:16.971000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-06-10T11:59:18.631000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
我想中央銀行不會做這種事情。 |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-06-10T11:59:19.092000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-06-10T11:59:21.533000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
那你會不會反過來拒絕全世界的資金進來嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0.789 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-06-10T11:59:21.533000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-06-10T11:59:21.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
不會啦，當然我們也不會啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-06-10T11:59:21.893000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-06-10T11:59:22.273000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
所以那麼自由…… |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-06-10T11:59:22.333000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-06-10T11:59:22.913000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
好，最後一個問題，現在股市熱絡的情況，央行會不會打壓？ |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-06-10T11:59:36.437000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2026-06-10T11:59:39.638000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
自由市場要怎麼打壓呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-06-10T11:59:40.278000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-06-10T11:59:59.402000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
你只能對於投資人提出警告，有些時候你的leverage太高了要小心，金融機構也要警告他，錢太集中在股市也不是很好，頂多就是這樣子而已啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-06-10T12:00:00.442000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-06-10T12:00:01.002000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
總裁，這個不是央行的業務啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-06-10T12:00:01.202000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-06-10T12:00:01.622000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
對，當然不是啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-06-10T12:00:02.043000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-06-10T12:00:02.063000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
如果AI…… |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-06-10T12:00:04.563000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-06-10T12:00:12.109000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
所以我剛剛也有講啊，金管會都已經密切在注意這件事了！ |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
羅委員明才 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-06-10T12:00:12.130000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-06-10T12:00:20.957000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
不是、不是，大家也不要太相信央行總裁講的話，因為我兩次被騙上當啊，一個是黃金，一個是比特幣。 |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-06-10T12:00:20.957000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-06-10T12:00:21.957000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
謝謝，因為已經12點了，謝謝羅委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
楊總裁金龍 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-06-10T12:00:21.497000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-06-10T12:00:22.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
我跟委員報告，現在比特幣跟黃金都在下跌。 |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-06-10T12:00:22.879000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2026-06-10T12:00:23.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
好，謝謝羅明才委員的質詢，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0.462 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-06-10T12:00:23.659000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2026-06-10T12:00:27.659000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
今日登記發言委員均已詢答完畢。 |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-06-10T12:00:27.959000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2026-06-10T12:00:38.530429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
請議事人員宣讀今日審查預算案之審查項目及提案共50案，宣讀完畢後，預計12點30分進行協商。 |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2026-06-10T12:00:38.830429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2026-06-10T12:00:48.259000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
與央行提案無關的政府機關官員可以先行離席，留在現場的官員可以開始用餐。 |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2026-06-10T12:00:48.559000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2026-06-10T12:00:52.273286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
請議事委員宣讀預算數及提案。 |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2026-06-10T12:00:52.573286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[121].end |
2026-06-10T12:01:03.144714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].text |
115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算（營業部分）關於中央銀行（含中央造幣廠、中央印製廠） |
| transcript.gazette[121].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2026-06-10T12:01:03.444714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2026-06-10T12:01:04.587571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].text |
（第8至第25頁） |
| transcript.gazette[122].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2026-06-10T12:01:04.887571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2026-06-10T12:01:20.887571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].text |
1.如有修正，除註明修正意見外，應另加敘「並依據營業收支、金融保險成本、轉投資、重大之建設事業及資金運用等項之審查結果，隨同調整。」 |
| transcript.gazette[123].quality |
0.018 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2026-06-10T12:01:21.187571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[124].end |
2026-06-10T12:01:34.616143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].text |
2.如無修正，應敘明「應依據營業收支、金融保險成本、轉投資、重大之建設事業及資金運用等項之審查結果，隨同調整。」 |
| transcript.gazette[124].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2026-06-10T12:01:34.916143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2026-06-10T12:01:37.201857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].text |
（第26至第27頁、第39至第41頁） |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2026-06-10T12:01:37.501857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2026-06-10T12:01:39.216143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].text |
4,288億3,537萬8千元 |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2026-06-10T12:01:39.516143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2026-06-10T12:01:41.230429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
2,535億0,474萬6千元 |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[128].start |
2026-06-10T12:01:41.530429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[128].end |
2026-06-10T12:01:43.816143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].text |
1,753億3,063萬2千元（第49頁） |
| transcript.gazette[128].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[129].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[129].start |
2026-06-10T12:01:44.116143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[129].end |
2026-06-10T12:01:52.687571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].text |
1.如個別項目有修正，除註明修正意見外，另加敘「營業總支出應隨同調整。」 |
| transcript.gazette[129].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[130].start |
2026-06-10T12:01:52.987571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[130].end |
2026-06-10T12:02:00.130429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].text |
2.如無個別項目修正，即敘明「隨同營業總支出審查結果調整。」 |
| transcript.gazette[130].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[131].start |
2026-06-10T12:02:00.430429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[131].end |
2026-06-10T12:02:03.001857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].text |
無列數 （第25頁、第64至第65頁） |
| transcript.gazette[131].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[132].start |
2026-06-10T12:02:03.301857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[132].end |
2026-06-10T12:02:04.730429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].text |
8億9,700萬9千元 |
| transcript.gazette[132].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[133].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[133].start |
2026-06-10T12:02:05.030429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[133].end |
2026-06-10T12:02:07.316143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].text |
（第20至第25頁、第56至第61頁） |
| transcript.gazette[133].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[134].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[134].start |
2026-06-10T12:02:07.616143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[134].end |
2026-06-10T12:02:23.330429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].text |
1.如有修正，除註明修正意見外，另加敘「並依據營業收支、金融保險成本、盈虧撥補、轉投資及重大之建設事業等項之審查結果，隨同調整。」 |
| transcript.gazette[134].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[135].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[135].start |
2026-06-10T12:02:23.630429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[135].end |
2026-06-10T12:02:37.059000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].text |
2.如無修正，應敘明「應依據營業收支、金融保險成本、盈虧撥補、轉投資及重大之建設事業等項之審查結果，隨同調整。」 |
| transcript.gazette[135].quality |
0 |