| IVOD_ID |
169929 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169929 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
18 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-10T11:29:53+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-10T11:35:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:46 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/dee24285c0428ea5413ac9179351b2f721dd72608bfb95728c63d91a868a86b178127b5ca753ccb05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:29:53 - 11:35:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於中央銀行（含中央造幣廠、中央印製廠）。（詢答及處理）
二、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分，關於財政部主管中國輸出入銀行、臺灣金融控股股份有限公司（含臺灣銀行股份有限公司、臺銀人壽保險股份有限公司、臺銀綜合證券股份有限公司）。（僅詢答）
【6月10日及11日兩天一次會】
【預算提案截止時間：第一案6月10日（三）上午10時，第二案6月10日（三）下午5時】） |
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請央行楊總裁 |
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這個不分黨派啊但是如果說能夠為中華民國的主權基金然後來努力的話其實我們都應該往這個方向增加能見度所以其實我就follow剛剛這個我們委員的一個講法在 |
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主權基金來講因為現在國發會提的是有償的取得外匯存底的一個模式但是之前央行也多次提出說強調外匯存底其實是維持金融穩定是啊沒有錯是穩定匯率嘛對不對其實某種程度上如果說把個人來想的話它就有點像是定存的概念對不對是相對來講是保本的部分好也可以啦所以 |
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本席剛剛也想要再一次請教一下總裁因為您是專業我也希望是說能夠用專業的角度來看待是說如果真的要成立主權基金的話認為最重要的前提到底是資金的來源治理的架構還是投資的目標明確定位 |
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主要的就是說第一個我們必須要來確定一下就是說我們是要做財務的操作或是要做對於企業的一個支持 |
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如果說是對企業的支持的時候呢那麼恐怕那個架構這個是一個架構的問題剛剛委員如果說是支持企業的這個部分呢那可能就是要Themasec的方式 |
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那如果說是財務操作的話呢就GIC那個什麼新加坡或是那個韓國的那個什麼KIC不過呢韓國他現在目前呢他剛剛那個王委員也有提到就是說韓國呢他現在要提出一個30兆韓元好像是30兆韓元這我們有看到就他用超徵稅收嘛 |
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對所以它是30兆的這個它是主要的目標是企業所以剛剛委員講的但它不限是國內國外的企業它是可以投資的企業對所以它這個像淡馬錫淡馬錫它是對企業那對企業它有對內的跟對外的 |
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所以呢 看看我們的目標所以剛剛委員講的沒有錯就是說你的目標你的Purpose是什麼然後才來決定你的那個架構是什麼是 總裁那我現在國人也想要問的是說到目前為止不管是賴清德總統講過行政院長卓榮泰講過以及說相關部會國發會在整理也跟央行財政部有開會討論 |
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國內還是不清楚說那到底我們如果說真的要推中華民國的主權基建的話我們的方向是什麼有沒有一個比較濃縮的因為還是一樣嘛你一定要先確定一個方向我們在三個部分第一確定你的方向定位 |
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第二 這個治理團隊能不能讓國人信任不要有弊案以及第三 資金來源是什麼如果說從回來這樣源頭倒揮我們可能會更有一個往前的方向但目前看起來是沒有啊不是說沒有啦 這個是一個所以現在您的理解 |
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229.844 |
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250.611 |
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我們國家希望做這個主權基金主要要往哪一個方向我跟委員報告據我了解在總統的以前的談話當中我可以深深的感受到總統是希望來支持我們的企業到國外去發展他要到國外去發展那會包括說外國的企業嗎 |
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255.479 |
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274.477 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
沒有喔 他可能是說是要來協助我們中華民國的企業我們的企業到國外去發展那這個到國外去發展 可能他就有很多的方式啦我們的企業到國外去發展 可能就會有很多的方式那這個呢 我們中央銀行就比較不會了解啦是大概是這樣子 |
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275.678 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
296.776 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
總裁你這樣講的一個話是過去沒有提到的喔就是說我們的主權基金因為縱觀其他世界各國的主權基金來講的話其實有一些投資標的它不限於是本國企業有一些投資標的認為是說只要可以增進收益的值得投資的就像那個剛剛委員在講的可是你現在這樣提的方式比較像會是 |
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298.377 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
323.186 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
主權財務基金有點像是挪威模式挪威模式是比較財務操作他比較屬於財務操作所以這就是總裁我覺得這就是因為你剛剛也承諾王世堅委員你要給他一個您這邊了解的一個方向我們會也一樣給本席做參考因為這一個部分本席還是強調開宗明義我就講了 |
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323.966 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
342.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
就說如果說能夠對於中華民國的一個主權或說對於我們台灣能夠更有能見度我們絕對不反對但問題是還是要把這個定位給清楚往前回推你才能夠了解說到底這個東西是不是能夠獲得我們大家一定的支持是是是好 謝謝我們再繼續討論好不好謝謝黃孟考委員謝謝 |