| IVOD_ID |
169916 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169916 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
18 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-10T10:44:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-10T10:55:56+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:58 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/dee24285c0428ea5886900ee0b1b3eaf21dd72608bfb9572ffedc3c96f086d46eb3679e204ee1bbe5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:44:58 - 10:55:56 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分關於中央銀行（含中央造幣廠、中央印製廠）。（詢答及處理）
二、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算營業部分，關於財政部主管中國輸出入銀行、臺灣金融控股股份有限公司（含臺灣銀行股份有限公司、臺銀人壽保險股份有限公司、臺銀綜合證券股份有限公司）。（僅詢答）
【6月10日及11日兩天一次會】
【預算提案截止時間：第一案6月10日（三）上午10時，第二案6月10日（三）下午5時】） |
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謝謝主席我們請楊總裁請楊朗楊總裁 |
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李委員早早上我有聽委員在問你有關最近股市是不是有點過熱然後最近又有點修正那你剛才說這幾天股市的修正是健康的我想聽一下總裁的說法 |
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因為股市就是比較怕股市是比較怕就是一直衝衝衝沒有下調如果說偶爾下修的話這是健康的不然的話如果說一直垂直上去的話那不大好這個是我的意見 |
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那可是之前央行也出一份報告說這個市場資金過度集中於AI相關的產業恐怕會加劇股市下行的脆弱性那是不是跟這幾天股市的震盪有相關性 |
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事實上我們那個穩定報告我們是引用IMF的說法本來引用你們也認同才會引用基本上對如果說就我們台灣的情況來看的話我們台灣應該還好啦我們的AI還算是很健全的我們AI是發展得非常好 |
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那股市是因為AI的關係然後它往上再上升這個也是正常啦只是說如果說速度太快資源太過集中到那邊的時候那麼主管機關就必須要注意那這一點據我了解我們金管會對這個問題它也有在密切的注意然後資訊它都有掌握當中 |
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因為錢你總會流到他 |
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他獲利最高的地方去這個是很自然的如果說這個產業假如說這個產業他就是沒辦法沒辦法的時候呢以市場的一個機制來看的話資金怎麼會跑到那邊去 |
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那如果說政府呢認為就是說這個也是有陪有那個什麼support有要支持的一個的產業的話那政府呢必須要去協助他那你如果說是由那個市場的一個機制來講的話呢當然市場的資金他是往最有利的地方流去啊這是很自然的 |
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不過現在的確資金有往股市那個方向去流動了連央行在6月3號有標售364天期的定存單1400億元結果第一個不足而發行 |
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第二個呢 那因為這樣子所以你的得票利率呢還衝到這個1.523%在18年的新高這表示是不是表示說這個市場資金過去可能會買這個央行的定存單但是發現說你的這個利率不夠高就往股市那邊走了 |
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所以我剛剛也講到就是說為什麼會不足而發行有三個原因第一個就是說它的資金市場的資金往股市那邊去這是第一個第二個就是說因為我們的AI也是熱絡所以就是說我們銀行就是放款給AI的相關產業它也比較多就沒有錢來買你的計程單就是了那第三點也是剛好就是說五六月剛好是繳稅的期間 |
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那 |
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這個央行有總裁有觀察到說最近有借買房市的錢去炒股的這個新型的這個融資槓桿嗎 |
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我看報紙有這麼說不過據我們了解是也有這樣的一個現象所以我剛剛也是在講事實上金管會對於信用就是股市的信用因為股市的信用很大一部分是從券商那邊給他的對不對不過券商的那些錢也有一部分是從銀行來的 |
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所以我們也必須要注意它所以也就是說我們也是會密切注意這些的資金流向的一個情況我們也會密切注意它安徽圍有這樣的情況發生嗎 |
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那是啊會有啊當然會有這種當然會因為為什麼呢因為他認為就是說因為現在我想大家都知道就是說因為我們的AI是發展的很好他們的dividend也非常好他的獲利也非常好所以我們的股民是不擔心的所以你看看最近標上去了又collection下來然後又上去然後又collection下來那我都認為這都是正常的 |
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通常來講 央行為了防止股市過熱當然也有一些政策上面的調整的做法基本上有兩個一個就是調升存款的準備率另外一個就是升息我不曉得說央行在目前的情況之下會不會啟動這兩種手段 |
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我跟委員報告就很抱歉啦因為6月18號剛剛是我們禮監事禮監事會那我們前10天這一段期間是緘默期緘默期不過就是說這個到6月18號的話委員充分討論了以後會有一個結果 |
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那結果呢 我們的結果 我們的結論 我們的政策會走向會是怎麼樣呢到時候的 我也只是說 如果股市過熱才會有這些手段那你如果認為股市不會過熱也不會有這些手段不過就是說 剛剛也就是說在講就是說 你的政策是不是一個預防性的 |
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如果說我們是覺得就是說如果說你會目前會是這樣子但是呢他藉著那個健康的collection的話那你就不必要再去那個因為市場他本身會除非就是說市場失靈了那當然中央銀行也必須要密切的注意他 |
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在必要的時候在必要的時候也不能讓一個星星之火會燎原所以必須要密切注意所以這個是一個就是說主管機關必須要去注意它的一個總裁講話都很深的慘意所以我本以為是說總裁意思是說藉由這個股市的市場自動的健康的去調節可是後來我聽到說 |
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這個不要讓這個心心之火可以療癒又覺得說好像會有一些採取一些預防性的一些動作所以呢我才一直在強調就是說主管機關一定要密切注意他也是在這裡你不能就是說市場都是他在做這樣一個發展的時候呢那你還是就是說站在旁邊看不去很密切的分析他注意他那這樣就失職了好 |
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那謝謝總裁 那我請這個莊部長財政部莊部長 |
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委員好部長 大家都很關心新青安2.0因為新青安在7月底就要屆滿了2.0我是想請教一下部長因為其實政府現在有很多利多的一些政策包含跟財政部有相關的也有房屋稅 地價稅的減免最多可以減到0那我再請問一下 |
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543.55 |
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569.803 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
那目前我看到所有的報導大概是說這個新清安會2.0會有一些緊縮的一些政策那甚至有一些排富的一些門檻那我想請教一下那可是因為我們這個育兒的這個或是對婚育宅對新婚夫妻我覺得還是要有點還是要協助嘛也不能說這個政府他在這個這個或是行政院講了這麼多的利多政策出來之後可是在我們新清安 |
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570.703 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
581.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
2.0看不到這些力度的政策所以我請問一下部長我們在新簽2.0這部分對於這個新婚夫妻或是育有小孩的這些家庭有沒有什麼樣一個力度的一些政策 |
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583.291 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
587.315 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
謝謝委員對於新疆7月30屆期後後續會做怎麼樣的規劃我們都持續在跟相關部會討論那當然我們5月的時候總統還有院長都有宣布所謂的人口政策裡面家庭支持篇那也就是協助婚育家庭減輕他們的負擔有諸多的政策 |
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604.071 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
629.945 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
那新青安這個部分我們在討論的時候會把婚姻家庭的一些相關的部分也會討論進來做一併的考慮現在的首購族是這個一千萬的這個額度嘛那我們對這個婚姻家庭的這個貸款額度有沒有辦法再提高提高到這個一千二或是說一千五啊這或許是可以考慮的方向因為婚姻家庭或許他需要的面積會是比較大的 |
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632.066 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
655.726 |
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所以這是一個考慮的一個方向最後有結果的時候會有一個完整的方案跟社會做大眾做報告所以會往這個方向去做就對了會 委員您今天的建議也是我們會納入參考的對啊 我想說這個政策要一致嘛總不能說你這個月額政策有很多的這些禮包出來結果在新千二點裡面看不到啊對 委員您今天的建議我們會把它納入一併參考好 謝謝李光臣委員 |