| IVOD_ID |
169879 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169879 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-35-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-08T11:47:41+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-08T11:56:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:19 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/cf4a05d5bc4f1da02255339ba783b601de6dd124de216d0f45bd58b8ef1d7533d5f0a589f4d4aac65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王義川 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:47:41 - 11:56:00 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告「國軍老舊主要裝備汰除期程與戰力銜接配套規劃」，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝召委,請顧部長是,王委員好部長,我們的這個國防預算,這個今年的國防預算也省了大概到一個段落了針對今天這個題目,在我們審查過程中有沒有哪一些項目跟今天的題目有關,然後被凍結跟刪除 |
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您說T34的部分沒有 全部全部啊就是說我們國防預算大概上禮拜省的差不多了嘛那有些凍結啦 有些怎麼樣這一些跟我們今天的題目啊有沒有相關啊還是你們在安排這些相關的這個太儲配套的規劃的時候啊其實在今年的預算審查都還算順利 |
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現在我想主要還是有一些保留的18案的部分,我們希望能夠在草野協商黨團協商的時候,希望能夠獲得支持其他在委員會的部分,我想就三檢數來講,我們有經過跟每個委員來做進行協商 |
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今天這個題目有沒有哪一些項目被保留,沒有順利完成通過趙烈的部分,跟今天這個題目有相關的我為什麼要這樣問 |
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現在這幾天早上大家都吃雞翅,我們國安部提出這個結尾,有的都欠太慢,為了當時能夠用好,能夠完成,當你們要來的時候,你們不知道民國幾年,大家都會煩惱這個,蔣介石委員在煩惱這個,我的意思是說, |
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今年的預算裡頭,有沒有哪一些因為這些保留或者是慢下去,會影響到我們今天這個題目往前推進?我們現在因為那個預算雖然沒有審完,可是我們今天的這個案子主要都會列在作為費也是比較多的 |
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所以座位費如果沒有超過去年的那個座位的額度的話,我們還是可以執行我們還是可以執行所以沒有什麼問題就整體的這個後勤的維護的部分,我們還是持續的在進行所以就是說我們這個國軍老舊組要裝備太儲的期程 |
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跟今年預算審查的這個期程相關的這些內容不會有什麼樣的影響應該說迄今為止還沒有影響委員會審查這個過程沒有什麼影響委員的審查就因為我們還是在座位會的部分是有一些刪減但是我想還是在我們可以因應的範圍之內 |
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那我們現在進行中的案子你們在建案中的案子有沒有哪一些要太舊的是非常具體因為這個預算你剛剛提到有一些要編到明年後年去有一些哪一些比較具體的這個建案可能在這一兩年會完成然後編列預算以後讓我們的實際在操作這些國軍弟兄 |
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聽起來跟放心的有沒有拿一些比較具體的跟大家講一下 |
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我覺得比較我們比較有兩個部分一個就是無人機的部分這個現在在特別預算被刪除那無人機跟無人艇的這個部分我們要納入那還是要怎麼跟納入法還是希望能夠委員多支持那另外一個是那個資管決策的系統這個部分我們也可能要考慮再納入那希望這個也都可以得到委員的支持這樣子 |
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279.279 |
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好,那這個上禮拜五啦,因為宗家兵委員有提一個無人機的專法好了啦然後在立法院的院會裡頭啊,這個案子就沒有被排進這個接下來要進行委員會進一度啦這補充你跟我們講一下 |
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308.048 |
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現在我們無人機大隊也逐步在編程還有部隊的無人機的中隊也逐步在編程所以我們現在就是說如果有編但是沒有裝的話這個會有一些困擾所以我們還是希望在無人載具的部分不管是無人機或無人艇都能夠得到大院的支持能夠早日能夠籌貨 |
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329.751 |
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至於是用什麼方式,我想我們會做最後的一個演繹,然後提到大院來,再請大院能夠支持應該討論,因為接下來每年的議程,你們可能八月也要行政院也要上來,所以有可能在那個地方把預算編進去 |
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有可能還會有追加預算追加預算是今年的追加預算有可能想中加兵委員體的一個特別條例嗎?這有一個方案裡面嗎? |
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有在規劃的方案的思考範圍之內,但是我們還沒有定案還沒有定案,就是講了有三個方式嘛,履駕以上,年度駕以上,還有這個特別條例,特別預算大概就三個還沒有做最後的定案但是無論如何,無人機這件事,我們的國家就是一定要做就對了對,因為無人機是我們現在重要的這個 |
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因為不管從二五戰爭或者美伊衝突都可以看得出來這個新型態戰爭情況之下無人機是一個關鍵的戰力那它要涉及到很多我們認為應該要看重的就是說它構成一個 |
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416.27 |
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相對於我們面對中國這樣的一個威脅它是一個不對稱戰力的一個重要的一環那對於這樣不對稱戰力重要的一個建構又再進一步涉及到我們國內的國防自主 |
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439.282 |
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那涉及到國防自主,不只是自主這個概念而已,而是在自主的狀況之下,才能夠在面臨任何的緊急的狀況之下,我們有一個韌性因為如果我們是個海島國家嘛,我們無人機必須要被大量的消耗那在無人機被大量消耗的前提之下,我們必須要快速的在國內能夠 |
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自行來構建不管是利用3D列印的然後相關的這些模組然後相關的這些導航的系統然後相當的不斷的來迭代更新這個都能夠在國內有這個能力那國內廠商也都有能夠投入那我們也透過這些比較長期的規劃跟國外能夠技術廠商透過這些合作 |
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我想這對整個從不正正戰力的方面來看,然後透過國防組織在建立防衛韌性這整套其實是就無人系統來講是扮演的非常非常吃重的一個角色所以我們希望這個部分的預算能夠早日獲補好,那謝謝部長繼續加油這幾個方案持續再往前推進,讓大家這個包括國軍,大家都更有信心好,謝謝 |