| IVOD_ID |
169829 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169829 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-17 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-04T10:22:44+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-04T10:31:58+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:14 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1e7ee030b58e6bfe09d9f8e1f7ff33488ee7e0de9923b3dc87431bb39d7cfed20bb9a68193f37aa45ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許智傑 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:22:44 - 10:31:58 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請交通部部長、交通部鐵道局局長及台灣高速鐵路股份有限公司董事長就「5月25日高鐵班次嚴重誤點事件」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席我們請部長跟高鐵董事長好請陳部長跟施董事長委員好部長董事長好 |
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我想這個大霧點的問題大家都問很多了那我們再一次提醒就是問題的查免以及未來的預防這個希望說我們交通部跟高鐵能夠盡量把它研究清楚為了不要再有類似情況發生或者是緊急應變可以做得更好 |
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今天是六月四號 一個中國悲傷的日子部長你記得你去年六月十號到哪裡 |
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去年6月4號委員這個上面有顯示我應該是在高鐵的高雄站是啊這個去年6月4號其實我們能夠爭取到這個建設也真的很謝謝張宏佩跟高鐵就當時有承諾嘛那就是委託工程顧問公司評估然後今年3月就可能開工這個其實是高雄一個很 |
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重大也是一個大家引領期盼的建設但是我最近問到好像目前高鐵打算暫緩或者是不做這個不知道部長知不知道我是不是請董事長來回答這個問題 |
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跟委員報告我想基本上這個過温公司的基本的規劃已經完成那由於國內現在目前這個營造都在蓋廠房因為半導體太熱的關係那以及這個地下工程事實上是一個靈軌工程而且是一個穿移改移的工程因此我們特別謹慎 |
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我們事實上在民間針對相關不同的營建商大概訪價訪談了大概超過20件確實廠商目前手頭上對於做這個工程的意願非常的低這是第一件事情第二個就是說我們未來事實上新車導入之後馬上面臨增班的狀況 |
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這個施工會造成我們現在三個月台會必須減少一個月台一個月台施工完以後才能增加第二個月台的施工那這個我們現在正在評估對於增班的影響也就是考慮到說增班的穩定度跟施工的先後順序我們必須要謹慎考量我想大家都知道嘛不要到最後車子有了結果增班發不出去啊所以這個我們很審慎在評估考量這個也跟委員誠實報告 |
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對 所以我其實今天要特別提醒的就是說這個問題不是今天才知道這個問題在去年的時候 6月4號的時候我們到現場的時候雖然當時不是石董事長但是我們當時就知道你要做月台一定是會要輪流嘛這個是去年就知道的事嘛 |
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跟委員報告去年的六月四號雖然我不在不過確實是經過顧問公司進場實際計算之後才發覺他的施工時間比我們想像的長非常的多那這個也就會造成其實未來班表調整的影響衝擊幅度更大所以這個其實是最近才發生的事 |
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所以現在就是新車進來總共的車輛用我們如果是用現在有六個月台嘛一次施工是會動到兩個月台嘛簡單講現在是三個月台有六個車道嘛那如果是動到一個月台就剩下四個車道嘛 |
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那四個車道就新舊車的調度所以這個案子到底未來可能做還是不做這個案子終究是要做但是我們是在評估是在增班班表調整之後做還是同步做我們擔心的是同步做對於左營站的增班會有影響而左營站的增班除了影響到高雄人的權益之外也會影響到權限的調度 |
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那當然我們是運作順暢為主嘛其實你如果是慢因為你新舊調度我想試驗可能最多三個月到半年吧不會超過吧沒有 這個整個穩定期要兩年因為我們的交車是要透過一年的時間才逐步交車完成穩定期要兩年交車就交一年穩定至少也要再一年所以總共是兩年 |
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所以兩年之後到底可不可能做我們的大方向是要做但是必須在不影響調度以及增班的狀況底下做這個目前都還在評估當中如果可以同步做我們會願意同步做如果不能同步做我們會以增班調度為優先我想這個如果有真的有新的考量因為我們一直引領期盼三月就要斷崗啊 |
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也跟委員誠實的報告去年6月4號的時候我們第一個沒有想到說它的工期這麼長第二個我們也沒有顧慮到說在失作的時候那個月台的兩個軌道的陣線上的電源必須要斷電但是我們顧及到工程安全我們已經決定如果要失作就要斷電一旦斷電我們連通行的功能都失去了所以它不只是增班調度而且連進基地的功能都會影響所以我們確實非常謹慎的在評估 |
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OK 勇敢面對錯誤 其實做一個最新的決定我們是可以接受不過就是說 有這個改變我交通委員都不曉得這個改變還沒有定案 我只是說我們現在正在謹慎嚴肅的在評估所以現在是暫緩也沒有暫緩 因為我們事實上都還沒有進行發報 |
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我們三月嘛本來是預計今年三月嘛那現在已經delay了吧我們本來就是依照原本的計畫在三月之前要進行發包在發包之前尋商訪商在尋商訪商的過程當中我們才發解新的問題也就是說廠商對於這個靈鬼施工的風險的考量比我們想像的更嚴肅所以我們才進入了更實質的評估了 |
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好 那後面應該是進度可不可以請董事長概括一下後面的狀況 你說分這兩種情況嘛我想是不是秦委員再給我們一點時間我們把整個對於增班調度的影響以及先後順序做一個更清楚的釐清因為其實上新車導入的新的班表也現在正在研議當中這一切都在現在進行式當中不是我們故意要延誤新車進來 去年也知道今年新車要進來啊 |
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去年知道新車進來可是去年並不知道新車每一台交車的準確時間現在我們知道了知道每一台車的準確交車時間以後我們才能夠進行每一台車增班對實質上的班表的確定的發展 |
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OK 那什麼時候大概可以把這個時間序包括新車進來 包括調度進來包括考慮一起做或考慮等全部都調動完成之後來做這個時間序可不可以大致上列一下至少因為我突然問到說這個暫緩的計畫我是覺得很訝異 |
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沒有我再一次跟委員強調我們並沒有暫緩的計畫我只是說我們現在在評估各種發生的新的情勢有一旦有評估的結果明確的話我會親自跟委員說明所以這個希望說把這個弄清楚我想我們高雄人引領其範力也是高雄出身的阿雄雄這個錯誤我感覺說這到底是其實 |
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你們內部可能也會承認說到底是暫緩還是不做沒有不做但是我們只是先後順序的問題所以一定會做一定會做那就聽我們石董事長這句承諾對 但是增班我想一般民眾會覺得可能應該是優先 |
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當然正班優先啊你要調度順暢才來做嘛這個是一定的嘛所以我們是擔心說不要因為這些問題就不做啦是所以一定會做這個承諾我希望說石董事長跟我們高鐵所有的人員還有交通部長因為什麼時候做在delay兩年你們不知道都又換到哪個位置去了也不記得在這個位置 |
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所以這個事情我希望說這個是可以執行下去那相關的人員也必須把這個問題把它keep住好 謝謝那我們今天至少有個結論就是一定會做是OK好 謝謝部長跟董事長都OK是 這個沒有問題一定要做好 OK 謝謝好 謝謝委員 |