| IVOD_ID |
169792 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169792 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-03T11:55:21+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-03T12:03:11+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:50 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5329b193fad0412508922e267e3e0138cf886063649796cbb79257defbd0e8ffd2a91ba8bd4818235ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王義川 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:55:21 - 12:03:11 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
(變更議程)立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請內政部部長、警政署署長、交通部部長、經濟部部長就「我國測速照相設備設置標準、執行成效及調整不合理執法點位精進作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。二、邀請內政部部長、海洋委員會主任委員、法務部部長、交通部部長、教育部部長、衛生福利部部長、數位發展部部長、財政部關務署署長就「因應新興毒品氾濫導致毒駕案件飆升，如何強化執法量能及防制策略」進行專題報告，並備質詢。三、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於警政署及所屬、中央警察大學、消防署及所屬、移民署、空中勤務總隊部分。四、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款消防署及所屬、移民署、警政署及所屬部分。五、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於內政部主管特別收入基金—新住民發展基金、警察消防海巡移民空勤人員及協勤民力安全基金。六、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於內政部主管信託基金—在校學生獎學基金、劉竹琛先生警察子女獎學基金、誠園獎學基金。七、審查內政部函送財團法人臺灣省義勇人員安全濟助基金會、財團法人警察學術研究基金會、財團法人義勇消防人員安全濟助基金會等3家財團法人115年度預算書案。【警政署、消防署之部分預算另定期以秘密會議進行審查】【預算審查僅詢答；相關預算提案於115年6月15日(星期一)中午12時前截止收件。】） |
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謝謝主席 我們請交通部跟警政署署長 謝謝好 請交通部陳次長 還有警政署張署長委員好好 這個先請教交通部 |
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我們在做道路設計的時候先進行公路幾何設計然後上面都有定設計速率那就會定一個速限那接下來透過交通工程標誌、標線、號誌提醒用路人使用這個道路應該用什麼速度來行駛然後哪裡是危險的路段我這樣講沒有錯吧沒有錯我剛剛講到這裡都還沒有講到測速照相 |
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沒有 測速照相是最後一關了 是就公路集合設計 收回啦 不知道了解啦交通工程想辦法 讓大家能夠在那個危險的地點或者是路段 進行減速更沒辦法 測速照相才要出手嘛沒錯吧 是 阿為什麼現在測速照相都警察在負責啊因為它是一個 現在來講它算是一個執法的設備啦好 來 請警政署 |
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蘇長你們現在各縣市警察局在裝測速照相我剛剛講的那一些是你們考量的重點嗎剛才那個測速射速這些交通部的前者但是我們考的重點就是這些的路段路口是不是會發生這些交通事故的好那你們就是看依照是地點嘛看A1事故嘛然後分析A1或A2或A3啦跟這個速度有沒有關係嘛 |
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對不對跟速度也有關係阿如果跟速度沒關幹嘛測速照相那是要跟速度有關的嘛是好那跟速度有關這件事你們警政署各縣市警察局交通隊交通大隊有辦法去處理跟公路局去設計交通工程喔 |
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這沒辦法,你們一定要問交通部門嘛,所以這次我一件一樣的,包括交通部跟警政署啊我看你們兩個人的報告啊,地方大家也搞不清楚,奇怪的測數是上漲的,都說警察漲的警察漲的說上漲的,中央漲的,警政署漲的 |
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現在都不是這樣交通部門叫警政部門為了交通安全你們要合作這個機制出來我看交通部的報告裡面說這都是警政署的權責您前面那一段公路集合設計的改善交通工程標誌標証號誌改善這個都沒辦法 |
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副市長你也做工廠做新的嘛 董事長也做工廠做新的嘛這裡是我們做工廠的人 要先做好 還真的沒辦法請警察去設置測速照相 我這樣說對不對沒有錯 你這個機制 再想辦法改變一下好不好是 我要告訴廣播 再去做這個 |
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接下來兩位繼續留著接下來我們來講這個獨駕的事件我知道行政院已經請各部會針對這個電子煙 持有 使用 駕車 獨駕這些東西通通在做討論對不對 剛剛也提到說可能拜時可能明天就有相關的討論好 我請問一下這個交通部 |
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我們很多手段都說 要調扣駕照 要調銷駕照請問調扣駕照 調銷駕照以後 他會不會再上路他還是會上路好 那他會上路 接下來呢 你還抓到了他今天去購車 去給你扣了 去給你調銷 明天再繼續開車 還給你抓到了怎麼辦 |
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247.223 |
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所以駕駛的部分會滴滴地換,這沒問題車的部分會把它吊扣,會把它修起來,保管它但是呢,我們會朝向,而後可能要把它沒入對啦,就是這句話啦,我告訴你啦,很多人會被打架啦被打架你知道嗎,他就現在酒駕 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
249.558 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
256.142 |
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獨駕 現在去給警察撞到了嘛 因為可能自己去弄電話條或者是肇事嘛車就去用烤起來嘛 你們警察就把他烤起來對不對 烤起來 大家也去跟警察說烤起來烤起來 幾天幾十天開 我老媽等我這麼久的人 我說你不是去用烤起來嗎她說我媽用抓到了就好了 我問你現在開什麼車 我說我媽媽的車 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
275.18 |
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298.925 |
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結果如果去給他抓到,他媽媽的車可能給他靠兩年兩年後這台車又崩盤了,對不對?所以,我是建議這樣,我這台車提升了,我已經開始聯署了我是建議這樣啦,你記得啦,獨駕九駕,去用吊銷、吊扣駕照的期間你繼續獨駕九駕,不管有沒有造勢繼續獨駕九駕,不管有沒有造勢這台車,這台車,不用再靠白了啦,這台車就給它沒收了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
306.044 |
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326.573 |
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有的被拖到第二天之後又開,又開跑車一路人在撞他們老婆給他開,他們爸爸給他開,他們老公阿嬤給他開啊我們現在說車主不一定知道,你管你車主知道不知道要生孩子生成這樣,他就已經獨家酒家給他搞起來了你大人又給他炒,繼續開,開去還弄到人,這樣可不通這條我建議你們一定要去研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
332.396 |
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338.179 |
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別說要靠兩年 兩年以後也一樣啊這張牌又獨家就有家 這也要拿去搬啊這事無忌憚欸你告訴市長說 給我發錢 發錢他就不怕你發錢 你才給他發幾萬你來一台跑車三百萬 五百萬 整台給他廢掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
353.732 |
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369.512 |
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把這個末梳毀掉就會痛啦所以這一條我是建議啊要這一個進行相關的討論看想辦法把這些規定給修掉市長你有贊成嗎有贊成 我們會朝這個方向來做修法的動作好 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
370.117 |
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375.24 |
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那最後啊,我這一個因為內政部的部長也提了我不知道這個案子的主政的這個單位是什麼當然行政院來召集啦那我提了很多條的修法,我把這個放到最後一張最後一張就是我所有的修法都在裡頭啦你記得明天才會討論,跟車流部長,這條把他炸回去 |
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把病案去討論一下啦有人問這可不是院辦 我說這不是院辦啦我們討論出來的結果啦 大家可以看得出來持有電子煙叫毒品 使用電子煙販賣運輸毒價造成死亡的交通事故 改罰金 吊扣 吊銷 車子沒入各式各樣的規定這硬式的都是我政府要這樣做的 你們給我討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
425.166 |
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440.52 |
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我們早上回去,林衛說的毒品、煙害、交通、刑法分散在法務部、衛福部跟交通部,他們也都是全部的主政單位對,所以這給你們建議,因為有時候是這樣,就是彼此法律之間這種的,我們現在為了獨家給他拉很遠,結果有一種比獨家還要靠後的,比他多 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
450.208 |
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所以這個對照表出來之後,我們才可以回去討論希望明年在行政院討論,可以有一個具體的成果讓國人覺得,我們的政府真的有關心這件事 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2026-06-03T11:55:21.369000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[0].end |
2026-06-03T11:55:21.549000+08:00 |
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謝謝主席。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[1].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[1].start |
2026-06-03T11:55:22.510000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[1].end |
2026-06-03T11:55:24.671000+08:00 |
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請交通部跟警政署署長，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[1].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-06-03T11:55:26.472000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2026-06-03T11:55:31.396000+08:00 |
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請交通部陳次長還有警政署張署長。 |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
張署長榮興 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-06-03T11:55:31.396000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2026-06-03T11:55:31.596000+08:00 |
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委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-06-03T11:55:34.457000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T11:55:34.457000+08:00 |
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委員好。 |
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0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-06-03T11:55:34.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-06-03T11:55:35.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
兩位好。 |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-06-03T11:55:34.578000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T11:55:58.749000+08:00 |
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先請教交通部，我們在做道路設計的時候，會先進行公路幾何設計，然後上面都訂有設計速率，就是訂一個速限，接下來透過交通工程標誌、標線、號誌提醒用路人，使用這個道路時應該用什麼速度來行駛，然後哪裡是危險的路段，我這樣講，沒有錯吧？ |
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0.95 |
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陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-06-03T11:55:58.889000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-06-03T11:55:59.129000+08:00 |
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沒有錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-06-03T11:55:59.129000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-06-03T11:56:03.310000+08:00 |
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我剛剛講到的部分，都還沒有講到測速照相。沒有。 |
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0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-06-03T11:56:03.850000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-06-03T11:56:20.321000+08:00 |
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測速照相是最後一關了，就是公路幾何設計做下去已經沒辦法改了；交通工程則是想辦法讓大家在那個危險的地點或者是路段進行減速；若再沒辦法時測速照相才要出手，沒錯吧？是。 |
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0.773 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-06-03T11:56:21.022000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-06-03T11:56:22.963000+08:00 |
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為什麼現在測速照相都是警察在負責？ |
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0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-06-03T11:56:24.904000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-06-03T11:56:28.687000+08:00 |
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因為現在來講它算是一個執法的設備。 |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-06-03T11:56:29.627000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-06-03T11:56:30.128000+08:00 |
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好，請警政署。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-06-03T11:56:32.304000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-06-03T11:56:40.190000+08:00 |
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署長，你們現在各縣市警察局在裝測速照相時，我剛剛講的那一些是你們考量的重點嗎？ |
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0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
張署長榮興 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-06-03T11:56:40.190000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-06-03T11:56:49.797000+08:00 |
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剛才提的測速等等是交通部的權責，但是我們考量的重點就是這些路段、路口是不是會發生這些交通事故的頻率，我們的重點…… |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.712 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-06-03T11:56:50.297000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-06-03T11:56:53.139000+08:00 |
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那你們就是看易肇事地點。 |
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0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
張署長榮興 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-06-03T11:56:53.139000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-06-03T11:56:54.139000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
對、對、對。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-06-03T11:56:53.560000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-06-03T11:56:55.701000+08:00 |
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看A1事故，然後分析…… |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
張署長榮興 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-06-03T11:56:55.841000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-06-03T11:56:56.322000+08:00 |
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A1或A2或A3，都有。 |
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0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-06-03T11:56:56.642000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-06-03T11:56:57.703000+08:00 |
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跟速度有沒有關係？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
張署長榮興 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-06-03T11:57:01.504000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-06-03T11:57:02.165000+08:00 |
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跟速度也有關係。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-06-03T11:57:02.625000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-06-03T11:57:04.485000+08:00 |
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如果跟速度沒關，幹嘛要測速照相？ |
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0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-06-03T11:57:05.486000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-06-03T11:57:06.946000+08:00 |
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所以就是跟速度有關嘛！是。 |
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0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-06-03T11:57:07.386000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T11:57:16.790000+08:00 |
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好，那跟速度有關這件事情，你們警政署各縣市警察局交通隊、交通大隊有辦法去處理到公路幾何設計跟交通工程嗎？ |
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0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-06-03T11:57:16.790000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-06-03T11:57:17.790000+08:00 |
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沒辦法吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
張署長榮興 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-06-03T11:57:17.610000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-06-03T11:57:17.930000+08:00 |
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沒辦法。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-06-03T11:57:18.811000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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2026-06-03T11:57:20.052000+08:00 |
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你們一定要問交通部門嘛！對。 |
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0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-06-03T11:57:20.893000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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2026-06-03T11:57:28.520000+08:00 |
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所以這條我是建議，包括交通部跟警政署，我看了你們兩個人的報告，但地方上大家也搞不清楚到底測速照相是誰裝的？ |
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0.673 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-06-03T11:57:28.760000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-06-03T11:57:36.823000+08:00 |
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他們都說是警察裝的；警察則說那是中央警政署裝的，現在都不是這樣啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-06-03T11:57:36.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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2026-06-03T11:58:02.946000+08:00 |
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交通部門跟警政部門，為了交通安全，你們合作的機制要出來，因為我看交通部的報告裡面說，這都是警政署的權責，前面那一段公路幾何設計的改善；交通工程標誌、標線、號誌改善做到都沒辦法了，次長是公路局長出身的，也是做工程出身的，這應是做工程的人要先做好，真的沒辦法才請警察去設置測速照相，我這樣說對嗎？沒錯。 |
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0.776 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-06-03T11:58:03.066000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-06-03T11:58:04.287000+08:00 |
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好，所以這個機制你們再想辦法看要怎麼改變一下，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
張署長榮興 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-06-03T11:58:04.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-06-03T11:58:04.627000+08:00 |
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是，我們會跟交通部密切再去做…… |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.385 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-06-03T11:58:04.627000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-06-03T11:58:19.576000+08:00 |
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好，OK。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-06-03T11:58:19.576000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T11:58:25.762000+08:00 |
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兩位請繼續留著，接下來我們來講毒駕事件，我知道行政院已經請各部會針對電子煙的持有、使用、毒駕等等這些東西通通有做討論，剛剛也提到，可能明天就有相關的討論。 |
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0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-06-03T11:58:25.782000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T11:58:57.154000+08:00 |
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我先問一下交通部，對此，我們有很多手段，像是吊扣駕照、吊銷駕照，請問吊扣駕照、吊銷駕照以後，他會不會再上路？ |
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0.783 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
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2026-06-03T11:58:57.854000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-06-03T11:58:58.554000+08:00 |
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他還是會上路。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-06-03T11:58:59.415000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T11:59:00.275000+08:00 |
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他會上路，接下來呢？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-06-03T11:59:00.295000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T11:59:01.415000+08:00 |
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你又抓到他了，他今天駕照被你扣了、被你吊銷了，然後他明天繼續開車，如果又被你抓到了會怎麼樣？ |
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0.585 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
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2026-06-03T11:59:09.891000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T11:59:23.300000+08:00 |
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所以駕照的部分會一直罰，這沒問題，至於車子的部分，會把它吊扣、會把它收起來保管，但是我們爾後會朝向把它沒入。對啦！ |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-06-03T11:59:23.620000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T11:59:24.060000+08:00 |
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就是這句話。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-06-03T11:59:24.741000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T11:59:36.001000+08:00 |
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我跟你說，很多小屁孩酒駕、毒駕被警察抓到，他有可能是自己去撞電線杆或者是肇事，然後車子就被警察扣了，駕照也被監理所扣了，扣了以後，他隔天繼續開，像我也曾經遇過這種人，我就問他：你不是被扣了嗎？ |
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0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-06-03T11:59:36.081000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T11:59:36.621000+08:00 |
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他說：不要被抓到就好了啊！ |
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0.545 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-06-03T11:59:36.641000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-06-03T11:59:36.942000+08:00 |
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我問：那你現在開誰的車？ |
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0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-06-03T11:59:36.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-06-03T11:59:37.142000+08:00 |
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他說：我開我媽媽的車。 |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-06-03T11:59:56.520000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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2026-06-03T12:00:02.641000+08:00 |
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如果他被抓到，他媽媽的車可能會被扣2年，2年後這台車再放回來，對不對？對。 |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-06-03T12:00:02.641000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T12:00:42.491000+08:00 |
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所以這次我也有提修法，我們已經開始在連署了，我建議因毒駕、酒駕而被吊銷、吊扣駕照的期間，如果他還繼續毒駕、酒駕，不管有沒有肇事，這台車不用再扣牌了，就直接把這台車沒收，因為有的小屁孩隔天又開著跑車繼續在路上跑，他媽媽讓他開的、他爸爸讓他開的、他阿公阿嬤讓他開的，我們現在說車主不一定知道，但你管他車主知道不知道，他寵小孩寵成這樣！ |
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0.608 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-06-03T12:00:42.491000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T12:00:46.052000+08:00 |
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他都已經毒駕、酒駕被人家扣了，大人還給他車讓他繼續開，開出去又撞到人，這樣有合理嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.432 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-06-03T12:00:47.013000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T12:00:54.537000+08:00 |
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我建議這一條你們一定要去研議，不要說要扣2年，因為2年後也一樣啊！ |
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0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-06-03T12:00:54.557000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T12:00:55.497000+08:00 |
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這種的又毒駕、酒駕，也要把他抓去關啦！ |
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0.312 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-06-03T12:00:55.657000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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2026-06-03T12:00:56.018000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
這麼肆無忌憚。 |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-06-03T12:00:56.078000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T12:00:57.478000+08:00 |
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剛才次長說要罰錢、罰錢，但他就不怕你罰錢，你可以罰他幾萬？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.56 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-06-03T12:00:57.838000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T12:01:17.335000+08:00 |
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如果那台跑車300萬、500萬，把整台車沒收、銷毀，他就會痛了啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.455 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-06-03T12:01:18.597000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T12:01:27.007000+08:00 |
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所以我建議這一條要進行相關的討論，想辦法把這些規定給修掉，次長贊成嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
陳次長彥伯 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-06-03T12:01:27.127000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T12:01:30.492000+08:00 |
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贊成，我們會朝這個方向來修法。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-06-03T12:01:31.277000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T12:01:59.612000+08:00 |
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最後，因為內政部部長也在場，我不知道這次這個案子的主政單位是誰，當然是由行政院來召集，我提了很多條的修法，我把這個放到最後一張，最後一張就是我所有修法都在裡頭，既然你們明天要討論，就請劉部長把這張帶回去併案討論一下，有人問這是不是院版？ |
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0.815 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
王委員義川 |
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2026-06-03T12:01:59.992000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T12:02:23.485000+08:00 |
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我說這不是院版，這個是我們討論出來的結果，大家看到持有電子煙和毒品或使用、販賣、運輸、毒駕、毒駕造成死亡的交通事故，有罰款、吊扣、吊銷、車子沒入等各式各樣的規定，紅字的部分是我認為要這樣做的，你們拿回去討論一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.763 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
劉部長世芳 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-06-03T12:02:26.166000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T12:02:36.755000+08:00 |
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我們會帶回去，委員說到的毒品、菸害、交通、刑法，這些分散在法務部、衛福部跟交通部，他們也都是主政單位。 |
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0.814 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-06-03T12:02:37.176000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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2026-06-03T12:02:38.237000+08:00 |
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好，所以給你們建議啦！ |
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0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
王委員義川 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-06-03T12:02:38.237000+08:00 |
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2026-06-03T12:02:53.609000+08:00 |
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因為有時候彼此法律之間，像這種情形，我們現在為了毒駕把它拉得很高，結果有一種比毒駕更可惡的反而變得比較低，以前我們在司法及法制委員會有時候會遇到這種題目，所以這個對照表出來之後，你們再拿回去討論，希望明天行政院的討論可以有一個具體的成果，讓國人覺得我們政府真的有在關心這件事情，謝謝。 |
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0.606 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-06-03T12:02:54.109000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-06-03T12:02:56.109000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
謝謝王義川委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-06-03T12:02:56.409000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-06-03T12:02:58.980429+08:00 |
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接下來請李坤城委員。 |
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0 |