| IVOD_ID |
169781 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169781 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-03T11:04:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-03T11:17:11+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5329b193fad041250a948ae5fe2e9c08a8e069b60cc25a5f77c83729728f4ea854de318ebac86ee55ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳雪生 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:04:00 - 11:17:11 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議(事由:一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於數位發展部單位預算。
二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於數位發展部資通安全署單位預算。
三、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於數位發展部數位產業署單位預算。
四、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於國家通訊傳播委員會單位預算。
五、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管通訊傳播監督管理基金預算。
六、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管有線廣播電視事業發展基金預算。
【本次會議僅進行詢答;開會事由一至六預算提案截止收件時間:6月10日下午4時】) |
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好,謝謝召委,是不是請林部長,速發部林部長林部長早安林部長早安,單位之間,通訊像上次台北車站發生去年12月連續殺人的事情有沒有,台北車站那邊的鐵路警察 |
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那很像跟我們的地區警察消防都沒有聯絡上所以我講說台鐵也好高鐵也好機場也好他們之間系統通訊系統能夠做一個連貫是不是請部長這邊能夠 |
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來整合無線電頻率及各類的系統 |
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我們現在政府就是說在那個在那個任性方面我們在都為了添災或者是如果有那個衝突那個區域衝突的時候我們那個有一個都有一些詳細的計畫那通訊方面我們第一個要保障的是指揮系統然後再來是救災系統然後再來是重大的民生設施然後再來是一般民眾的通訊的需求我們會依照這個順序那我們都有那個列出這個 |
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所謂的優先順序表然後也有一些計畫雖然這些計畫有些並不方便公布但是這個事情我們都有在做 |
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沒有這很好啦,我最近也跟你們那個貴單位視察張貞潔有沒有我們常常也會做一些互動啦所以你們打詐的成果幹什麼,他也跟我解釋的很清楚跟我們辦公室也解釋很清楚,我覺得有必要啦你常常跟委員之間能夠做一個互動有沒有讓委員能夠了解,所以對速發部也好,對ACG也好,對中華電影也好 |
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是大家有了解以後啊是就一些問題就解決了嘛是沒錯謝謝我人的支持等一下省預算也比較好省一點非常感謝非常感謝另外就是那個海宮海鴻宮啊66號平台船是我們東營那邊不是有一條船嗎是上次我也跟你在這邊說明過嘛是那條船碰到亂流然後沉沒嘛是打到那個東營島去是把這個3號 |
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也沒有弄斷,那海巡就把他帶到港內,然後找了這條平台船來,那平台船很大,來幫忙修他是救護車的一個概念,你把人家海巡扣留在那邊,也沒去告也沒幹什麼後來我有請蘇發部那邊去處理,處理狀況怎麼樣? |
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現在我們是不是請那個市長說明一下應該是已經離開了嘛劉市長你說明一下是 報委員謝委員隨詢那平台船跟那個擱淺的漁船都已經離開了那至於那個船長部分目前為止還在南竿那根據我們目前了解大概六月中旬會開庭開庭 對 |
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有人告他嗎因為海巡署有去做舉發的動作嘛那是不是有人告這個部分海巡署去舉發那東西是中華電信的啊你海巡署只舉發什麼因為破壞海嵐的話現在有可能有涉及刑法但是這個只是涉及而已但是因為相關市政還是要司法單位訴人是我受傷了你去告什麼 |
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你幫我去告,我沒有叫你告啊是,我沒有告,只是說海巡署部份他就有全責,剛剛委員有提到嘛,他就跟檢察官有去做備案的動作那檢察官認為什麼?呃,鮑委員這個檢察官司法不公開,我真的...司法不公開?我身法不公開,所以我確實...好,那你海巡告他什麼? |
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這個因為我看到目前在所有資料之後他把遺送給檢察官檢察官有做筆錄這是以公開的訊息把人送給檢察官對就是船長的部分有告他嗎這個報告委員我不清楚海巡有沒有告他你也不知道海巡應該只是遺送要不然我打電話問我來問海巡有沒有告他他馬上就回答我了你們連這個都不去問喔因為這個涉及到你們也太扯了吧是是是 |
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立法院那邊在關心這個事情是不是這個船長的狀況怎麼樣還是船員的狀況怎麼樣船員都已經回去你們有沒有告他你們都不知道都無法掌握因為這是到檢察官的偵查部分跟檢察官什麼關係啊根據我了解誰有沒有告誰問當事單位問海巡就知道啦你用什麼告人家啊這個報告委員我真的不清楚 |
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人家船來救援,關他什麼事?你把海嵐撞壞了也是那條船嗎?是漁船的問題,跟救援船有什麼關係?我們會趕快去跟海巡那邊去了解一下不是我來問,你們才回答我你們都應該要掌握這個狀況我們下次會改進 |
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不是下次,還有下次喔?你下午就給我回報這個事情?沒問題沒問題好不好?跟這個船長一點關係都沒有啊船長很像又中風又什麼什麼的我們很麻煩欸,你們派個人去照顧他好了 |
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我知道部長這邊有派次長,在18、19號要到東營去,因為海嵐3號修好了嘛那你們看我非常感謝我也拜託縣長,也交代那邊的鄉長你們去,我不知道能不能去啦那不能去的話,次長,牛市長有沒有去?幫我邀有齁,你去 |
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女婿我叫他們給你注射高陽酒好了好不好因為你動作快一點嘛好不好還有你們跟海巡啊地檢署沒有傳你們去喔 |
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因為我們處理的是比較技術方面的問題,對於海上真正發生什麼事情,我們這邊比較少涉入這船長趕快讓他回去嘛好不好我想蘇巴部跟我們立法院的互動越來越好了是不是是,謝謝委員還有部長請後,請NCC陳主委 |
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委員好陳柱惟你7月31號是退休還是委員屆滿任期屆滿任期屆滿以後呢如果沒有其他的公職的一屆安排的話就不退休了退休你原來不是主任秘書嗎 |
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是 我仍然是長征文官沒錯那你就繼續幹走任秘書就好啦不代理啦前例大概比較難以以往NCC有很多長征文官出任委員後來大概都退休那你就退休那你退休以後又是來代理應該不會這樣子吧沒有我們在座同仁你們看一看我們這是民主嗎 |
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台灣在實施民主嗎這個體制內規定NCC委員出缺要趕快把人選送到立法院來嘛那立法院來行使同意權嘛是不是這樣那行使同意權你立法院如果不通過的話 |
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我就用代理的方式合理不合理上禮拜提秘書長 院秘書長有對媒體講比如說正在徵詢當初你說哪個秘書長行政院秘書長行政院秘書長對誰講跟媒體他是誰啊這裡是立法院 他對媒體講他是誰啊 他代表總統代表院長代表院長的幕僚長代表院長他的幕僚長這裡是立法院 |
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如果要立法院同意的東西我們立法院沒有通過然後行政院就可以代理派人代理嘛對不對我們三讀通過的法令如果行政院認為不爽就不附屬嘛是不是這樣不附屬檢察總長送來我們不同意 |
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那可以找個人代理是不是這樣那以後還要所有要經過立法院同意的事情行政院也不必把名單送到立法院來太麻煩了就直接派人代理就好了嘛代理的人也是他的目標嘛是不是代理檢察總長也是想幹檢察總長沒有通過嘛那他代理嘛一樣啊像NCE主委 |
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反正是你嘛對不對那後來不是你嘛後來我沒有通過沒有通過就你代理嘛那以後不要立法院同意啊各位這就是中華民國的民主是民主嗎這不是哪個黨派的問題啊是這樣的嗎民主是這樣的嗎民主這一堂課是這樣上的嗎選舉委員會也一樣如果這選舉委員沒有通過的話 |
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那由行政院來派代好那你們是什麼你們是超然獨立的機關超然獨立的機關可以由行政院來派代的話那還超然獨立什麼各位你們拼命理這是民主嗎不是民主 |
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那個習近平有這樣搞啊 沒有啊是不是 習近平有沒有這樣搞 |
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跟委員補充報告就NC的部分就是民國97年那個大法官4-613號有解釋行政的機關的事務由行政院統籌來大法官喔對好來你講大法官更好玩現在大法官幾個剩三個是不是三個也可以當家作主大法官只要剩一個就可以了我跟你講一個也可以OK啦我跟你講啦 |
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比總統權力還大啦這是大法官啊我很瞧不起我心裡面呸我跟你講我吐口口水不可以這樣嘛我很喜歡台灣這塊土地欸但不是這樣搞法啊是不是我內心的世界我也從來沒有去罵過誰啊主委我有罵過你嗎你問蘇巴部部長我有罵過你嗎 |
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我從來沒有欸你們的預算我都在幫你們維護欸是不是 即使將來交通委員會要審預算我們國民黨的系統可能也會砍你們預算我還會幫你們維護欸他們還說我藍皮綠骨 我什麼骨啊是不是什麼藍皮綠骨嘛我們講道理嘛 講制度嘛不可以這樣子啦我上次跟你們講那個名嘴 |
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鳴嘴在那邊,一講說那個誰,那個蔣萬安是讀稿機30個嘴巴通通讀稿機讀稿機全部都來了說我說要退黨,全部都來了30個說陳雪生要退黨,很霸氣講要退黨這幹什麼啊 |
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你們那個管理一下好不好打分數怎麼打的對電視台有沒有打分數啊你不能說讓這些名嘴在那邊拿那個什麼錢三千五千的我們尊重他的直播內容如果有違法的話我們會依法處理你們違法了幾件你們罰了多少錢 |
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那個主委啊違反事實大概這幾年都有總共發21件我們要有良心懂了沒有?要有良心要有良知我今天沒有質詢你啊,算跟你上了一課好不好?謝謝市長 |