| IVOD_ID |
169781 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169781 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-03T11:04:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-03T11:17:11+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5329b193fad041250a948ae5fe2e9c08a8e069b60cc25a5f77c83729728f4ea854de318ebac86ee55ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳雪生 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:04:00 - 11:17:11 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於數位發展部單位預算。
二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於數位發展部資通安全署單位預算。
三、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於數位發展部數位產業署單位預算。
四、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於國家通訊傳播委員會單位預算。
五、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管通訊傳播監督管理基金預算。
六、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於國家通訊傳播委員會主管有線廣播電視事業發展基金預算。
【本次會議僅進行詢答；開會事由一至六預算提案截止收件時間：6月10日下午4時】） |
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好,謝謝召委,是不是請林部長,速發部林部長林部長早安林部長早安,單位之間,通訊像上次台北車站發生去年12月連續殺人的事情有沒有,台北車站那邊的鐵路警察 |
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那很像跟我們的地區警察消防都沒有聯絡上所以我講說台鐵也好高鐵也好機場也好他們之間系統通訊系統能夠做一個連貫是不是請部長這邊能夠 |
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來整合無線電頻率及各類的系統 |
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我們現在政府就是說在那個在那個任性方面我們在都為了添災或者是如果有那個衝突那個區域衝突的時候我們那個有一個都有一些詳細的計畫那通訊方面我們第一個要保障的是指揮系統然後再來是救災系統然後再來是重大的民生設施然後再來是一般民眾的通訊的需求我們會依照這個順序那我們都有那個列出這個 |
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所謂的優先順序表然後也有一些計畫雖然這些計畫有些並不方便公布但是這個事情我們都有在做 |
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沒有這很好啦,我最近也跟你們那個貴單位視察張貞潔有沒有我們常常也會做一些互動啦所以你們打詐的成果幹什麼,他也跟我解釋的很清楚跟我們辦公室也解釋很清楚,我覺得有必要啦你常常跟委員之間能夠做一個互動有沒有讓委員能夠了解,所以對速發部也好,對ACG也好,對中華電影也好 |
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是大家有了解以後啊是就一些問題就解決了嘛是沒錯謝謝我人的支持等一下省預算也比較好省一點非常感謝非常感謝另外就是那個海宮海鴻宮啊66號平台船是我們東營那邊不是有一條船嗎是上次我也跟你在這邊說明過嘛是那條船碰到亂流然後沉沒嘛是打到那個東營島去是把這個3號 |
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也沒有弄斷,那海巡就把他帶到港內,然後找了這條平台船來,那平台船很大,來幫忙修他是救護車的一個概念,你把人家海巡扣留在那邊,也沒去告也沒幹什麼後來我有請蘇發部那邊去處理,處理狀況怎麼樣? |
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現在我們是不是請那個市長說明一下應該是已經離開了嘛劉市長你說明一下是 報委員謝委員隨詢那平台船跟那個擱淺的漁船都已經離開了那至於那個船長部分目前為止還在南竿那根據我們目前了解大概六月中旬會開庭開庭 對 |
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有人告他嗎因為海巡署有去做舉發的動作嘛那是不是有人告這個部分海巡署去舉發那東西是中華電信的啊你海巡署只舉發什麼因為破壞海嵐的話現在有可能有涉及刑法但是這個只是涉及而已但是因為相關市政還是要司法單位訴人是我受傷了你去告什麼 |
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你幫我去告,我沒有叫你告啊是,我沒有告,只是說海巡署部份他就有全責,剛剛委員有提到嘛,他就跟檢察官有去做備案的動作那檢察官認為什麼?呃,鮑委員這個檢察官司法不公開,我真的...司法不公開?我身法不公開,所以我確實...好,那你海巡告他什麼? |
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這個因為我看到目前在所有資料之後他把遺送給檢察官檢察官有做筆錄這是以公開的訊息把人送給檢察官對就是船長的部分有告他嗎這個報告委員我不清楚海巡有沒有告他你也不知道海巡應該只是遺送要不然我打電話問我來問海巡有沒有告他他馬上就回答我了你們連這個都不去問喔因為這個涉及到你們也太扯了吧是是是 |
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立法院那邊在關心這個事情是不是這個船長的狀況怎麼樣還是船員的狀況怎麼樣船員都已經回去你們有沒有告他你們都不知道都無法掌握因為這是到檢察官的偵查部分跟檢察官什麼關係啊根據我了解誰有沒有告誰問當事單位問海巡就知道啦你用什麼告人家啊這個報告委員我真的不清楚 |
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人家船來救援,關他什麼事?你把海嵐撞壞了也是那條船嗎?是漁船的問題,跟救援船有什麼關係?我們會趕快去跟海巡那邊去了解一下不是我來問,你們才回答我你們都應該要掌握這個狀況我們下次會改進 |
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不是下次,還有下次喔?你下午就給我回報這個事情?沒問題沒問題好不好?跟這個船長一點關係都沒有啊船長很像又中風又什麼什麼的我們很麻煩欸,你們派個人去照顧他好了 |
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我知道部長這邊有派次長,在18、19號要到東營去,因為海嵐3號修好了嘛那你們看我非常感謝我也拜託縣長,也交代那邊的鄉長你們去,我不知道能不能去啦那不能去的話,次長,牛市長有沒有去?幫我邀有齁,你去 |
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女婿我叫他們給你注射高陽酒好了好不好因為你動作快一點嘛好不好還有你們跟海巡啊地檢署沒有傳你們去喔 |
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因為我們處理的是比較技術方面的問題,對於海上真正發生什麼事情,我們這邊比較少涉入這船長趕快讓他回去嘛好不好我想蘇巴部跟我們立法院的互動越來越好了是不是是,謝謝委員還有部長請後,請NCC陳主委 |
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委員好陳柱惟你7月31號是退休還是委員屆滿任期屆滿任期屆滿以後呢如果沒有其他的公職的一屆安排的話就不退休了退休你原來不是主任秘書嗎 |
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是 我仍然是長征文官沒錯那你就繼續幹走任秘書就好啦不代理啦前例大概比較難以以往NCC有很多長征文官出任委員後來大概都退休那你就退休那你退休以後又是來代理應該不會這樣子吧沒有我們在座同仁你們看一看我們這是民主嗎 |
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台灣在實施民主嗎這個體制內規定NCC委員出缺要趕快把人選送到立法院來嘛那立法院來行使同意權嘛是不是這樣那行使同意權你立法院如果不通過的話 |
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我就用代理的方式合理不合理上禮拜提秘書長 院秘書長有對媒體講比如說正在徵詢當初你說哪個秘書長行政院秘書長行政院秘書長對誰講跟媒體他是誰啊這裡是立法院 他對媒體講他是誰啊 他代表總統代表院長代表院長的幕僚長代表院長他的幕僚長這裡是立法院 |
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如果要立法院同意的東西我們立法院沒有通過然後行政院就可以代理派人代理嘛對不對我們三讀通過的法令如果行政院認為不爽就不附屬嘛是不是這樣不附屬檢察總長送來我們不同意 |
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那可以找個人代理是不是這樣那以後還要所有要經過立法院同意的事情行政院也不必把名單送到立法院來太麻煩了就直接派人代理就好了嘛代理的人也是他的目標嘛是不是代理檢察總長也是想幹檢察總長沒有通過嘛那他代理嘛一樣啊像NCE主委 |
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反正是你嘛對不對那後來不是你嘛後來我沒有通過沒有通過就你代理嘛那以後不要立法院同意啊各位這就是中華民國的民主是民主嗎這不是哪個黨派的問題啊是這樣的嗎民主是這樣的嗎民主這一堂課是這樣上的嗎選舉委員會也一樣如果這選舉委員沒有通過的話 |
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那由行政院來派代好那你們是什麼你們是超然獨立的機關超然獨立的機關可以由行政院來派代的話那還超然獨立什麼各位你們拼命理這是民主嗎不是民主 |
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那個習近平有這樣搞啊 沒有啊是不是 習近平有沒有這樣搞 |
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跟委員補充報告就NC的部分就是民國97年那個大法官4-613號有解釋行政的機關的事務由行政院統籌來大法官喔對好來你講大法官更好玩現在大法官幾個剩三個是不是三個也可以當家作主大法官只要剩一個就可以了我跟你講一個也可以OK啦我跟你講啦 |
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比總統權力還大啦這是大法官啊我很瞧不起我心裡面呸我跟你講我吐口口水不可以這樣嘛我很喜歡台灣這塊土地欸但不是這樣搞法啊是不是我內心的世界我也從來沒有去罵過誰啊主委我有罵過你嗎你問蘇巴部部長我有罵過你嗎 |
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我從來沒有欸你們的預算我都在幫你們維護欸是不是 即使將來交通委員會要審預算我們國民黨的系統可能也會砍你們預算我還會幫你們維護欸他們還說我藍皮綠骨 我什麼骨啊是不是什麼藍皮綠骨嘛我們講道理嘛 講制度嘛不可以這樣子啦我上次跟你們講那個名嘴 |
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鳴嘴在那邊,一講說那個誰,那個蔣萬安是讀稿機30個嘴巴通通讀稿機讀稿機全部都來了說我說要退黨,全部都來了30個說陳雪生要退黨,很霸氣講要退黨這幹什麼啊 |
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你們那個管理一下好不好打分數怎麼打的對電視台有沒有打分數啊你不能說讓這些名嘴在那邊拿那個什麼錢三千五千的我們尊重他的直播內容如果有違法的話我們會依法處理你們違法了幾件你們罰了多少錢 |
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那個主委啊違反事實大概這幾年都有總共發21件我們要有良心懂了沒有?要有良心要有良知我今天沒有質詢你啊,算跟你上了一課好不好?謝謝市長 |
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陳委員雪生 |
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謝謝召委，是不是請數發部的林部長？ |
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主席 |
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請林部長。 |
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林部長宜敬 |
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委員早安。 |
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陳委員雪生 |
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林部長早。 |
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1 |
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陳委員雪生 |
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2026-06-03T11:04:05.100000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2026-06-03T11:04:43.415000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].text |
單位之間的通訊，像上次去年12月臺北車站發生的連續殺人事件，臺北車站的鐵路警察很像跟我們地區的警察、消防都沒有聯絡上，所以我講臺鐵也好，高鐵也好，機場也好，他們之間的通訊系統能夠做一個連貫，是不是請部長能夠看看怎麼做？ |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-06-03T11:04:43.415000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-06-03T11:04:46.547000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
是，了解，我們去了解一下，看如果有…… |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-06-03T11:04:46.547000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-06-03T11:04:49.679000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
跟內政部去研議一下，看看怎麼做…… |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-06-03T11:04:49.679000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-06-03T11:04:52.811000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
好，沒問題，如果有什麼做不好的地方，麻煩…… |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-06-03T11:04:52.811000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-06-03T11:04:55.032000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
透過通訊整合機制來整合無線電頻率及各類的系統。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-06-03T11:05:07.956000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-06-03T11:05:22.899000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
是，現在我們政府在韌性方面，為了因應天災或者如果有區域衝突的時候，我們都有一些詳細的計畫。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.829 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-06-03T11:05:23.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-06-03T11:05:40.729000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
通訊方面我們第一個要保障的是指揮系統，再來是救災系統，然後再來是重大的民生設施，然後再來是一般民眾的通訊需求，我們都會依照此一順序列出所謂的優先順序表，然後也有一些計畫。 |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-06-03T11:05:40.729000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-06-03T11:05:45.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
雖然這些計畫有些並不方便公布，但是這個事情我們都有在做。 |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-06-03T11:05:46.748000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-06-03T11:06:01.812000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
這個很好啦，我最近也到貴單位視察，跟張登傑常常也會有一些互動，對你們打詐的成果幹什麼的，他也跟我們辦公室解釋得很清楚…… |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-06-03T11:06:01.812000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-06-03T11:06:02.812000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
是，謝謝委員，謝謝委員的支持。 |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-06-03T11:06:02.052000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-06-03T11:06:19.277000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
我覺得這有必要啦，你們跟委員之間能夠常常互動，讓委員能夠了解，對數發部也好，對NCC也好，對中華電信也好，大家有個了解以後，一些問題就解決了嘛，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.836 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-06-03T11:06:20.417000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-06-03T11:06:21.057000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
是，沒錯，謝謝委員的支持。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-06-03T11:06:21.538000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-06-03T11:06:22.798000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
這樣審預算也比較好審一點，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.533 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-06-03T11:06:22.798000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-06-03T11:06:24.458000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
非常感謝，非常感謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-06-03T11:06:24.458000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-06-03T11:06:32.221000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
另外就是海虹工66號平台船，我們東引那邊不是有一條船嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-06-03T11:06:32.941000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-06-03T11:06:35.242000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
上次我也跟你在那邊說明過嘛。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-06-03T11:06:36.022000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-06-03T11:07:06.720000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
那條船碰到亂流然後沉沒了，打到東引島損壞了「臺馬三號」海底電纜，也沒有弄斷啦，那海巡就把它帶到港內嘛，然後找了這條平台船來，那個平台船很大，來幫忙修嘛，它是救護車的一個概念，你海巡把人家扣留在那邊，也沒去告也沒幹什麼，後來我有請數發部去處理，現在處理狀況怎麼樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-06-03T11:07:10.228000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-06-03T11:07:12.229000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
是不是請司長說明一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-06-03T11:07:12.709000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-06-03T11:07:13.650000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
現在應該是已經離開了嘛？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-06-03T11:07:15.530000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-06-03T11:07:16.010000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
牛司長，你說明一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-06-03T11:07:16.791000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-06-03T11:07:27.494000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
報告委員，謝謝委員垂詢，平台船跟擱淺的漁船都已經離開了，至於船長的部分目前為止還在南竿，根據我們目前的了解，大概6月中旬會開庭。開庭？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-06-03T11:07:29.724000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-06-03T11:07:31.265000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
有人告他嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-06-03T11:07:31.265000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-06-03T11:07:33.766000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
因為海巡署有去做舉發的動作嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-06-03T11:07:34.167000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-06-03T11:07:35.387000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
是不是有人告，這個部分…… |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-06-03T11:07:35.647000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-06-03T11:07:37.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
海巡署去舉發？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-06-03T11:07:37.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-06-03T11:07:38.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
對，之前海巡署有送到…… |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-06-03T11:07:37.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-06-03T11:07:42.812000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
那個東西是中華電信的啊，海巡署舉發什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-06-03T11:07:42.812000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-06-03T11:07:49.275000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
對，因為破壞海纜現在也可能涉及刑法，但是這個只是涉及而已，相關事證還是要司法單位去處理…… |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-06-03T11:07:49.636000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-06-03T11:07:51.477000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
是我人受傷了，你去告什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-06-03T11:07:53.418000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-06-03T11:07:54.739000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
你幫我去告，我沒有叫你告啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-06-03T11:07:55.059000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:02.663000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
是，我沒有告，只是說海巡署的部分他基於權責，剛剛委員有提到，他就有跟檢察官去做備案的動作。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:04.565000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:06.706000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
那檢察官認為什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:06.706000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:08.467000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
報告委員，檢察官因為司法不公開，我真的……偵查不公開…… |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.591 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:08.667000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:09.468000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
司法不公開？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:10.268000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:11.869000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
偵查不公開，所以我確實不…… |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:11.869000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:13.010000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
好，那你海巡告他什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:14.830000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:21.032000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
就我目前看到的所有資料，他有移送給檢察官，檢察官有做筆錄，這是已公開的訊息。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.794 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:21.472000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:22.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
把人送給檢察官？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:24.074000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:25.134000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
對，就是船長的部分。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:25.554000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:27.255000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
有告他嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:27.255000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:27.955000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
報告委員，這個我不清楚。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:28.075000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:29.376000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
海巡有沒有告他，你也不知道？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:30.336000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:31.257000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
海巡應該只是移送啦。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:31.657000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:33.218000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
要不要我打電話問？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:33.218000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:34.978000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
我來問海巡有沒有告他，他馬上就回答我了。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:35.739000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:36.739000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
你們連這個都不去問喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:37.940000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:38.680000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
因為這個涉及到司法…… |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:38.960000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:39.901000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
你們也太扯了吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:40.081000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:40.601000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
是、是、是。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:41.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:49.123000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
立法院這邊在關心這個事情，包括船長的狀況怎麼樣，還有船員的狀況怎麼樣…… |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:49.123000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:49.723000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
船員都已經回去，現在只有…… |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:49.943000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:51.944000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
你們有沒有告他都不知道？ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:52.224000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:52.804000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
都無法掌握？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:52.944000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:55.285000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
因為涉及到檢察官偵查的部分…… |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:55.445000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:56.285000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
跟檢察官有什麼關係啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:57.165000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-06-03T11:08:57.606000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
根據我了解，現在大概…… |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.556 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-06-03T11:08:58.046000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-06-03T11:09:02.247000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
誰有沒有告誰，問當事的單位，問海巡就知道啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-06-03T11:09:03.127000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-06-03T11:09:04.147000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
你用什麼告人家啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-06-03T11:09:05.208000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-06-03T11:09:06.068000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
這個，報告委員，我真的不清楚。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-06-03T11:09:06.690000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-06-03T11:09:09.651000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
人家船來救援，關他什麼事？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-06-03T11:09:10.531000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-06-03T11:09:22.454000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
把海纜撞壞的也是那條船嘛，是漁船的問題啊，跟那條救援船有什麼關係？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-06-03T11:09:22.454000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-06-03T11:09:26.015000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
是，這個我們會趕快去跟海巡署那邊了解一下…… |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.789 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-06-03T11:09:26.235000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-06-03T11:09:30.796000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
不是我來問你們才回答我啊，你們都應該要掌握這個狀況。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-06-03T11:09:30.796000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-06-03T11:09:31.696000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
是，我們下次會改進。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-06-03T11:09:33.356000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-06-03T11:09:34.577000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
不是下次，還有下次喔？ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-06-03T11:09:35.418000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-06-03T11:09:36.939000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
你下午就跟我回報這個事情，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-06-03T11:09:37.059000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-06-03T11:09:38.280000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
沒問題、沒問題，好。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-06-03T11:09:40.542000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-06-03T11:09:41.864000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
因為跟這個船長一點關係都沒有啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-06-03T11:09:42.985000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-06-03T11:09:48.850000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
那船長好像又中風又什麼什麼什麼的，我們很麻煩，你們派個人去照顧他好了。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-06-03T11:09:50.373000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-06-03T11:09:58.016000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
我知道部長這邊有派次長大概18、19號要到東引去，因為海纜三號修好了嘛，是不是？是。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.706 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-06-03T11:09:59.596000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-06-03T11:10:13.301000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
你們去看我非常感謝，我也拜託縣長，也交代那邊的鄉長，你們去的話，我不知道能不能去，如果不能去的話，那牛司長有沒有去？ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.863 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-06-03T11:10:13.301000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-06-03T11:10:16.422000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
報告委員，有。有？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.143 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-06-03T11:10:16.422000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-06-03T11:10:21.072000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
你去的話，我叫他們給你注射高粱酒好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-06-03T11:10:21.072000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-06-03T11:10:22.554000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-06-03T11:10:22.554000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-06-03T11:10:24.736000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
你動作快一點好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-06-03T11:10:24.896000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-06-03T11:10:32.443000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
還有，你們跟海巡，地檢署沒有傳你們去？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
牛司長信仁 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-06-03T11:10:32.443000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-06-03T11:10:34.630000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
報告委員，沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-06-03T11:10:34.630000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-06-03T11:10:43.112000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
沒有，因為我們處理的是比較技術方面的問題，對於海上真正發生什麼事情，我們這邊比較少涉入。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-06-03T11:10:43.932000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-06-03T11:10:46.273000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
趕快讓船長回去好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-06-03T11:10:46.273000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-06-03T11:10:47.273000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
是，我們也…… |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-06-03T11:10:46.913000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-06-03T11:10:50.454000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
我想數發部跟立法院的互動越來越好了是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-06-03T11:10:51.114000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-06-03T11:10:51.194000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
是，謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-06-03T11:10:51.334000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-06-03T11:10:51.354000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
部長請回座。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-06-03T11:10:51.394000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-06-03T11:10:51.634000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
報告召委，請NCC陳主委。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-06-03T11:11:04.980000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-06-03T11:11:05.160000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-06-03T11:11:05.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-06-03T11:11:10.304000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
陳主委，7月31號你是退休還是委員屆滿？ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-06-03T11:11:10.304000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-06-03T11:11:10.304000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
任期屆滿。 |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-06-03T11:11:10.304000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-06-03T11:11:13.647000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
任期屆滿，任期屆滿以後呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-06-03T11:11:16.749000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-06-03T11:11:23.654000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
如果沒有其他公職的一些安排的話就退休了。退休？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-06-03T11:11:25.956000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-06-03T11:11:27.017000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
你原來不是主任秘書嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-06-03T11:11:27.927000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-06-03T11:11:29.908000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
是，我原來是常任文官沒錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-06-03T11:11:29.908000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-06-03T11:11:34.431000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
那你就繼續當主任秘書就好了，不代理啦。 |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-06-03T11:11:34.932000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-06-03T11:11:42.156000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
前例大概比較難以……以往NCC有很多常任文官出任委員，後來大概都退休。 |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.935 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-06-03T11:11:42.897000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-06-03T11:11:43.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
那你就退休？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-06-03T11:11:44.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-06-03T11:11:46.479000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
那你退休以後又是來代理？ |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-06-03T11:11:49.861000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-06-03T11:11:50.261000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
應該不會這樣子。 |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-06-03T11:11:52.123000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-06-03T11:11:56.665000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
在座同仁你們看一看，我們這是民主嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-06-03T11:11:57.608000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:03.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
臺灣在實施民主嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:03.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:10.397000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
體制內規定NCC委員出缺，要趕快把人選送到立法院來嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:10.397000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:12.058000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
跟委員報告，其實…… |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:12.058000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:16.021000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
讓立法院行使同意權，是不是這樣？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:16.261000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:21.279000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
行使同意權，立法院如果不通過的話，就用代理的方式，是不是這樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0.815 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:22.780000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:23.540000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
合理不合理？ |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:24.721000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:29.343000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
上禮拜其實院秘書長有對媒體講，譬如說正在徵詢當中…… |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
0.826 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:30.303000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:31.564000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
你說哪個秘書長？ |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:31.564000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:33.064000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
行政院秘書長。 |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:33.064000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:34.985000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
行政院秘書長對誰講？ |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:34.985000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:35.826000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
跟媒體。 |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:35.826000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:36.286000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
他是誰啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:37.546000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:40.167000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
這裡是立法院，他對媒體講？ |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:40.167000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:40.568000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
他是誰啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:40.808000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:41.548000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
他代表總統？ |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:41.548000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:42.688000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
代表院長？ |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:42.688000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:44.069000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
他代表院長的幕僚長。 |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:44.069000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:47.530000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
代表院長的幕僚長？ |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:47.530000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2026-06-03T11:12:47.971000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
這裡是立法院欸！是。 |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2026-06-03T11:12:50.854000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2026-06-03T11:13:00.882000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
要立法院同意的東西，我們立法院沒有通過，然後行政院就可以代理、派人代理，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2026-06-03T11:13:00.882000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[121].end |
2026-06-03T11:13:08.207000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].text |
我們三讀通過的法令，如果行政院認為不爽就不副署，是不是這樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[121].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2026-06-03T11:13:08.207000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2026-06-03T11:13:08.207000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].text |
不副署。 |
| transcript.gazette[122].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2026-06-03T11:13:09.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2026-06-03T11:13:16.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].text |
檢察總長的人事案送來，我們不同意，可以找個人代理，是不是這樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[123].quality |
0.852 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2026-06-03T11:13:16.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[124].end |
2026-06-03T11:13:30.828000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].text |
那以後所有要經過立法院同意的事情，行政院也不必把名單送到立法院來，太麻煩了，就直接派人代理就好了，代理的人也是他的目標，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[124].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2026-06-03T11:13:30.968000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2026-06-03T11:13:36.669000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].text |
代理檢察總長也是想當檢察總長，但沒有通過，那他就代理，一樣啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2026-06-03T11:13:36.769000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2026-06-03T11:13:42.668000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].text |
像NCC主委，本來是你，對不對？代理。 |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2026-06-03T11:13:42.788000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2026-06-03T11:13:47.690000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
後來不是你嘛，後來我們沒有通過，沒有通過就由你代理，那以後不要立法院同意啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[128].start |
2026-06-03T11:13:48.490000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[128].end |
2026-06-03T11:13:54.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].text |
各位，這就是中華民國的民主，是民主嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[128].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[129].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[129].start |
2026-06-03T11:13:54.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[129].end |
2026-06-03T11:13:57.935000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].text |
這不是哪個黨派的問題，是這樣的嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[129].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[130].start |
2026-06-03T11:13:57.935000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[130].end |
2026-06-03T11:13:58.535000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].text |
民主是這樣的嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[130].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[131].start |
2026-06-03T11:13:58.535000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[131].end |
2026-06-03T11:13:59.515000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].text |
民主這一堂課是這樣上的嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[131].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[132].start |
2026-06-03T11:13:59.515000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[132].end |
2026-06-03T11:14:16.597000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].text |
選舉委員會也一樣，如果選舉委員沒有通過的話，由行政院來派代，那你們是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[132].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[133].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[133].start |
2026-06-03T11:14:16.597000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[133].end |
2026-06-03T11:14:25.622000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].text |
你們是超然獨立的機關，超然獨立的機關可以由行政院來派代的話，那還超然獨立什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[133].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[134].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[134].start |
2026-06-03T11:14:25.622000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[134].end |
2026-06-03T11:14:27.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].text |
各位，你們評評理、你們評評理！ |
| transcript.gazette[134].quality |
0.417 |
| transcript.gazette[135].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[135].start |
2026-06-03T11:14:27.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[135].end |
2026-06-03T11:14:28.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].text |
這是民主嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[135].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[136].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[136].start |
2026-06-03T11:14:27.903000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[136].end |
2026-06-03T11:14:28.123000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].text |
這是民主嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[136].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[137].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[137].start |
2026-06-03T11:14:28.123000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[137].end |
2026-06-03T11:14:28.464000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].text |
不是民主啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[137].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[138].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[138].start |
2026-06-03T11:14:37.955000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[138].end |
2026-06-03T11:14:38.557000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].text |
習近平有這樣搞？ |
| transcript.gazette[138].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[139].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[139].start |
2026-06-03T11:14:39.099000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[139].end |
2026-06-03T11:14:39.299000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].text |
沒有啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[139].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[140].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[140].start |
2026-06-03T11:14:40.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[140].end |
2026-06-03T11:14:41.205000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].text |
是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[140].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[141].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[141].start |
2026-06-03T11:14:41.385000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[141].end |
2026-06-03T11:14:41.927000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].text |
習近平也沒有這樣搞。 |
| transcript.gazette[141].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[142].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[142].start |
2026-06-03T11:14:44.295000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[142].end |
2026-06-03T11:14:59.082000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].text |
跟委員補充報告，就NCC的部分，民國95年大法官釋字第613號有解釋，行政機關的事務由行政院統籌來…… |
| transcript.gazette[142].quality |
0.902 |
| transcript.gazette[143].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[143].start |
2026-06-03T11:14:59.082000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[143].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:00.803000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].text |
大法官？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[143].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[144].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[144].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:00.803000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[144].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:04.885000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].text |
好，你講大法官更好玩，現在大法官有幾個？ |
| transcript.gazette[144].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[145].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[145].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:04.885000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[145].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[145].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:06.226000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[145].text |
剩3個，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[145].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[146].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[146].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:06.546000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[146].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[146].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:11.948000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[146].text |
3個也可以當家作主，大法官只要剩1個就可以了，我跟你講，1個也可以、OK啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[146].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[147].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[147].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:12.109000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[147].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:16.819000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].text |
我跟你講，比總統權力還大，這是大法官啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[147].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[148].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[148].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:18.160000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[148].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:20.022000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].text |
我很瞧不起，我心裡面……呸！ |
| transcript.gazette[148].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[149].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[149].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:20.022000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[149].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[149].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:23.645000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[149].text |
我跟你講，我吐口口水，不可以這樣嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[149].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[150].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[150].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:26.267000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[150].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:31.131000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].text |
我很喜歡臺灣這塊土地，但不是這樣搞法，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[150].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[151].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[151].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:31.551000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[151].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[151].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:33.753000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[151].text |
我內心的世界也從來沒有去罵過誰啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[151].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[152].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[152].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:34.813000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[152].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[152].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:35.534000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[152].text |
主委，我有罵過你嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[152].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[153].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[153].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:35.534000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[153].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[153].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:36.534000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[153].text |
報告，沒有。 |
| transcript.gazette[153].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[154].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[154].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:35.534000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[154].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[154].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:37.255000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[154].text |
你問數發部部長，我有罵過你嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[154].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[155].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[155].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:39.738000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[155].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[155].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:44.260000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[155].text |
我從來沒有，你們的預算我都在幫你們維護。 |
| transcript.gazette[155].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[156].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[156].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:44.260000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[156].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[156].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:45.260000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[156].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[156].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[157].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[157].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:44.260000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[157].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[157].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:44.380000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[157].text |
是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[157].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[158].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[158].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:44.760000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[158].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[158].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:56.324000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[158].text |
即使將來交通委員會要審預算，我們國民黨的系統可能也會砍你們預算，我還會幫你們維護，他們還說我藍皮綠骨，我什麼骨啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[158].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[159].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[159].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:56.324000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[159].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[159].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:57.464000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[159].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[159].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[160].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[160].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:57.464000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[160].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[160].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:57.464000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[160].text |
對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[160].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[161].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[161].start |
2026-06-03T11:15:59.005000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[161].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[161].end |
2026-06-03T11:15:59.725000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[161].text |
什麼藍皮綠骨？ |
| transcript.gazette[161].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[162].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[162].start |
2026-06-03T11:16:00.785000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[162].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[162].end |
2026-06-03T11:16:03.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[162].text |
我們要講道理、講制度，不可以這樣子啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[162].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[163].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[163].start |
2026-06-03T11:16:06.267000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[163].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[163].end |
2026-06-03T11:16:28.480000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[163].text |
我上次跟你們講，名嘴在那邊一講，說蔣萬安是讀稿機，30個嘴巴統統說讀稿機、讀稿機，全部都來了，說我要退黨，全部都來，30個說陳雪生要退黨，很霸氣講要退黨，在幹什麼啊？ |
| transcript.gazette[163].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[164].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[164].start |
2026-06-03T11:16:31.977000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[164].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[164].end |
2026-06-03T11:16:34.039000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[164].text |
你們管理一下好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[164].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[165].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[165].start |
2026-06-03T11:16:34.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[165].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[165].end |
2026-06-03T11:16:35.601000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[165].text |
打分數是怎麼打的？ |
| transcript.gazette[165].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[166].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[166].start |
2026-06-03T11:16:36.221000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[166].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[166].end |
2026-06-03T11:16:37.122000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[166].text |
對電視臺有沒有打分數？ |
| transcript.gazette[166].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[167].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[167].start |
2026-06-03T11:16:37.783000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[167].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[167].end |
2026-06-03T11:16:41.026000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[167].text |
你不能讓這些名嘴在那邊拿那個什麼錢…… |
| transcript.gazette[167].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[168].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[168].start |
2026-06-03T11:16:41.026000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[168].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[168].end |
2026-06-03T11:16:43.509000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[168].text |
跟委員報告……3,000、5,000…… |
| transcript.gazette[168].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[169].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[169].start |
2026-06-03T11:16:43.509000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[169].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[169].end |
2026-06-03T11:16:45.131000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[169].text |
我們是尊重他的製播內容。 |
| transcript.gazette[169].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[170].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[170].start |
2026-06-03T11:16:45.131000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[170].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[170].end |
2026-06-03T11:16:46.131000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[170].text |
你尊重他？ |
| transcript.gazette[170].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[171].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[171].start |
2026-06-03T11:16:45.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[171].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[171].end |
2026-06-03T11:16:49.115000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[171].text |
如果有違法的話，我們會依法處理。違法？ |
| transcript.gazette[171].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[172].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[172].start |
2026-06-03T11:16:49.515000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[172].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[172].end |
2026-06-03T11:16:49.515000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[172].text |
違法的有幾件？ |
| transcript.gazette[172].quality |
0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[173].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[173].start |
2026-06-03T11:16:50.136000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[173].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[173].end |
2026-06-03T11:16:53.186000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[173].text |
你們罰了多少錢？主委。 |
| transcript.gazette[173].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[174].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[174].start |
2026-06-03T11:16:54.027000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[174].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[174].end |
2026-06-03T11:16:56.670000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[174].text |
違反事實，這幾年都有，總共罰21件，違反未通報、第二十七條第三項第四款………… |
| transcript.gazette[174].quality |
0.414 |
| transcript.gazette[175].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[175].start |
2026-06-03T11:16:59.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[175].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[175].end |
2026-06-03T11:17:00.614000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[175].text |
我們要有良心，懂了沒有？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[175].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[176].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[176].start |
2026-06-03T11:17:01.255000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[176].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[176].end |
2026-06-03T11:17:07.302000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[176].text |
要有良心、要有良知，我今天沒有質詢你，算跟你上了一課，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[176].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[177].speaker |
陳代理主任委員崇樹 |
| transcript.gazette[177].start |
2026-06-03T11:17:07.903000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[177].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[177].end |
2026-06-03T11:17:07.903000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[177].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[177].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[178].speaker |
陳委員雪生 |
| transcript.gazette[178].start |
2026-06-03T11:17:08.403000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[178].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[178].end |
2026-06-03T11:17:10.117286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[178].text |
謝謝召委，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[178].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[179].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[179].start |
2026-06-03T11:17:10.417286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[179].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[179].end |
2026-06-03T11:17:15.560143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[179].text |
謝謝陳雪生委員精闢的上課發言，謝謝主委。 |
| transcript.gazette[179].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[180].speaker |
主席（邱委員若華代） |
| transcript.gazette[180].start |
2026-06-03T11:17:15.860143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[180].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[180].end |
2026-06-03T11:17:22.717286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[180].text |
下一位登記質詢發言的委員是黃健豪委員，請黃健豪召委。 |
| transcript.gazette[180].quality |
0 |