| IVOD_ID |
169686 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169686 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-28T09:35:05+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-28T09:44:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:41 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/89665fc2cee9c367a2adf284c9ab74b75a53471ac56e363077815697e441d1b42be3067e3bd88ef65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:35:05 - 09:44:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於不當黨產處理委員會部分。二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於客家委員會及所屬部分。三、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款客家委員會及所屬部分。四、審查客家委員會函送財團法人客家公共傳播基金會115年度預算書案。【詢答及處理，所列預算提案於115年5月22日(星期五)中午12時截止收件。】
【5月27日、28日兩天一次會】） |
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張委員宏陸 |
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來 請主委來 客委會總議員齁這個主委這個其實大家都很關心客家文化的傳承但我發現現在很多客語認證什麼其實考試考過人越來越多但實際上能講的主委你認為有越來越多嗎 |
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也不是很容易說的考試不等於使用語言的能力啦故事我們才會想透過客家必要每一屆創造一個生活上使用的可能擴大這個環境 |
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沒有錯啦 我想請問一下 去年客家幣的執行的成果到底有多少比如說我們剛主委有聽到 比如說今年有18萬有什麼比如說我們發出去的這些多少 它的使用率到底有幾成 |
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到目前為止使用率75%QE都壓下75%所以我們預估使用是七成不能這樣預估就使用七成對嘛其實主委七成感覺很高但我必須要說我拿到客家幣其實我沒有什麼成本 |
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我的成本幾乎沒什麼但為什麼還有將近兩成五不是講就確定兩成五的人沒有去使用這是不方便嗎我是拿了他也忘了或者是他的下一代去幫他拿然後根本就沒有去用這個部分你們有沒有去探討過 |
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我覺得第一步可以先看 |
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我在都會區拿的,還是我在客家莊拿的我相信在客家莊或是在那個,它使用率會比較高但可能如果在都會區,我可能我拿了但我必須要到這個奶工學的這個餐廳裡面或上面去,它可能有點距離它可能拿了 |
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他想說反而我拿的時候是沒有成本但我如果真的要去花的時候 我要花的成本划不划得來會不會有這個情況發生當然有 當然有議員說的那些情況那些就是那些已經是我們的目的就是雖然說拿的沒成本的1000元但是我們要發再發 |
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兩千元、三千元在高通還有其他的購物、旅遊等其實是另外一個用意做的行業合作 |
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沒有錯啦,當然我們這個客家幣我們是希望有更多人認同客家文化然後去啦,不然其實你也知道像我過年我回故鄉回鄉下的時候老一輩的人很多人不知道有客家幣這個東西 |
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他的客家話講的實在是最好的耶那他根本不知道有這個東西耶那我覺得這個可能我們要再想一想當然我不是說我們要去這個因為他客家話把這講得很好那不是我們重點的宣傳對象所以我在這邊我要延伸就是一個主委 |
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我們很多的客家莊或什麼的其實很多人 尤其是長輩什麼的其實是務農的比較多吧對不對那我們有沒有想過我們用客委會啊比如說來弄一個客委會認證的客家莊然後 |
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客委會的認證的我可以用客家幣然後呢我是認證的我這個是客家的果園然後他有什麼什麼什麼的那我的客家幣我的什麼不一定要到餐廳我也可以購買農產品 |
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主委你認為呢?現在目前來說,雙店不含之以的類別,所以開封所有的都做得不不不,我知道在商店裡面他什麼都可以賣,但 |
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我們如果可以照顧我們自己的客家鄉親他有他的果園他有他的什麼的那我們也可以直接跟果園採購啊他本來就會講客家話啊他只是沒有登記沒有什麼他不是一個商店而已啊那我們有沒有考慮過可以也可以直接買農產品今天委員報告沒有錯 今天委員說的替白羌鹽兩人一行的事情 |
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因為他一定要有營利事業登記證做商店今年新啟動的2.0個人自然人也可以成為商店我知道你們今年是可以這樣嘛對不對所以果農可以果農可以我的意思就是說我知道他可以 |
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以你們今年的人我知道他可以但他不知道他可以啊他也不會啊雖然會宣傳是這個我們要宣傳我覺得不只是要宣傳而已我覺得我們可以跟地方政府的客家局或什麼的 |
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跟他們講輔導他們不然他不知道啦他每天就是在那邊啊很辛苦他怎麼會知道這個我要說的是這個啦這個如果可以直接我覺得我們客家鄉親的感受會更多而且他購買農產品或什麼的我不用開車再去我可以他就現在這個配送那麼發達 |
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他就可以這樣子賣我覺得主委你們可以思考一下另外 |
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我們一直講客家人我會講會講的人真的是越來越少啦考試我跟你講你叫我去考試我可以考得過啦但叫我很流利的講我也沒辦法變成要好像是第二重語言現在台灣年輕的客家人大概都是這樣子 |
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我們會不會要從生活當中然後這樣我這樣子,現在很多縣市都免費的學校中午營養午餐那問我們有沒有要想說在生活中我們也要跟教育部去溝通去配合這個免費營養午餐裡面一個禮拜有沒有一次 |
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可以吃客家餐或是客家的料理然後從那裡去推廣,你覺得呢?那是一個好方法,我們做的單一來跟地方的學校合作好啊,我為什麼要這樣的?第一個,也可以在生活中他就知道這個是客家菜,這個是什麼 |
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他吃的好吃他對客家文化他會覺得這不錯那另外一個也可以照顧我們客家的鄉親我們就是在地食材可以在地購買客家的東西我覺得啦很多的客家的元素我們都在生活裡面但都沒有被提起 |
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對不對 我們很多的這個水果 其實都是從客家莊裡面出來的但大家不知道 就少了一個品牌在那裡啦我是覺得這樣子 我不知道主委您的看法我們觀音堂這樣的做法 這樣的年代 其實如果這樣已經是在家裡了啦 |
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客家的風味的食材食物歐伊料理比賽也好 歐伊種植也好 歐伊做加工也好有什麼合作對象可以增加一個福岡感冒壓壓的那個規劃的想法我再給你三十秒就像初維你說的我們去農業客家的料理比賽今年的前幾名的我們希望教育部在營養午餐也幫我們推廣這幾樣菜 |
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順便可以介紹一下當然不是叫廠商 請學一下大家我覺得這客家文化 尤其在客家莊你這樣子的話 會讓年輕的一代多多認識客家 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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請主委。 |
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主席 |
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兩個主委，你要哪一個？ |
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張委員宏陸 |
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客委會。 |
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古主任委員秀妃 |
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張委員好。 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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主委，其實大家都很關心客家文化的傳承，但我發現現在很多的客語認證，其實考試考過的人越來越多，但實際上能講的，主委你認為有越來越多嗎？ |
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古主任委員秀妃 |
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沒錯，就像委員說的，考試不等於使用語言的能力，所以我們才會想透過客家幣的方式創造一些生活上使用的可能，擴大這個環境。 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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沒有錯啦！ |
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張委員宏陸 |
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我想請問一下，去年客家幣的執行成果到底如何？ |
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張委員宏陸 |
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剛剛有聽到主委說今年有18萬人可申請，我們發出去的這些客家幣，它的使用率到底有幾成？ |
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古主任委員秀妃 |
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到目前為止，使用率是75%，去年到現在是75%，所以我們預估使用是七成左右，我們本來的預估就是使用七成。對嘛！ |
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張委員宏陸 |
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其實主委，七成感覺很高，但我必須要說，我拿到客家幣，其實我沒有什麼成本，我的成本幾乎沒什麼，但為什麼還有將近兩成五……就是確定兩成五的人沒有去使用，是不方便呢？ |
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張委員宏陸 |
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還是拿了他也忘了？ |
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張委員宏陸 |
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或者是他的下一代去幫他拿，然後根本就沒有去用？ |
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張委員宏陸 |
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這個部分你們有沒有去探討過？ |
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古主任委員秀妃 |
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沒有使用的人，以目前來看，我們要探討他沒有使用的原因比較難一點，因為我們沒有對象、我們沒有他的個資，我們沒有辦法去問，這是一個困難的地方，對於確切沒有使用的，我們可能還要想一下要怎麼去了解。 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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主委，我覺得第一步可以先看我是在都會區拿的，還是我在客家庄拿的，我相信在客家庄拿的使用率會比較高，但在都會區，可能我拿了，但我必須要到「𠊎講客」的餐廳裡面或什麼商店去，它可能有點距離，他可能拿了想說我拿的時候是沒有成本，但我如果真的要去花的時候，所要花的成本划不划得來，會不會有這個情況發生？ |
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古主任委員秀妃 |
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當然有、當然有委員說的情況，這也是我們的目的，就是雖然拿了沒有成本的1,000元，但是要再花2,000元、3,000元在交通，還有其他的購物旅遊消費，這其實是我們另外一個用意，希望促進所有行業發展。 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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沒有錯，當然我們這個客家幣，我們是希望有更多人認同客家文化，然後去啊！ |
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不然其實你也知道，像我過年回故鄉、回鄉下的時候，老一輩有很多人不知道有客家幣這個東西。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.974 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
古主任委員秀妃 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-05-28T09:38:52.469000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-05-28T09:38:54.130000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
沒有錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-05-28T09:38:54.130000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-05-28T09:39:02.395000+08:00 |
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他的客家話講得其實是最好的，但他根本不知道有這個東西，我覺得這個可能你們要再想一想。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-05-28T09:39:02.555000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-05-28T09:39:24.582000+08:00 |
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當然我不是說我們要去……因為他的客家話本來就講得很好，就不是我們重點的宣傳對象，所以我在這邊要衍生的是，主委，我們很多的客家庄或什麼的，有很多的人尤其是長輩什麼的，其實是務農的比較多吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.869 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-28T09:39:25.783000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-05-28T09:39:27.863000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
對不對？沒錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-05-28T09:39:28.063000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-05-28T09:39:59.075000+08:00 |
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你們有沒有想過用客委會，比如弄一個客委會認證的客家庄，然後客委會認證的可以用客家幣，然後我是認證的，這個是客家的果園，然後他有什麼、什麼的，而我的客家幣不一定要到餐廳，我也可以購買農產品，主委，你認為呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.967 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
古主任委員秀妃 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-05-28T09:40:01.217000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-05-28T09:40:10.145000+08:00 |
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目前來說，商店並沒有限制它的類別，所以開放所有類型都可以。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.538 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-05-28T09:40:12.927000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-05-28T09:40:29.334000+08:00 |
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我知道，在商店裡面他什麼都可以賣，但我們如果可以照顧我們自己的客家鄉親，他有他的果園、他有他的什麼的，那我們也可以直接跟果園採購啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-05-28T09:40:30.214000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-05-28T09:40:39.878000+08:00 |
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他本來就會講客家話，他只是沒有登記、沒有什麼，它不是一個商店而已，那你們有沒有考慮過也可以直接買農產品？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
古主任委員秀妃 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-05-28T09:40:40.138000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-05-28T09:40:59.669000+08:00 |
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可以，跟委員報告，沒錯，就如委員所說的，去年第一次執行的時候，一定要有營利事業登記證的商店，今年新啟動的2.0，個人、自然人也可以成為商店。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.763 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-05-28T09:41:01.170000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-05-28T09:41:04.512000+08:00 |
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主委，我知道你們今年是可以這樣，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
古主任委員秀妃 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-05-28T09:41:04.512000+08:00 |
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2026-05-28T09:41:07.133000+08:00 |
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對，所以果農可以。 |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-05-28T09:41:08.554000+08:00 |
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2026-05-28T09:41:15.701000+08:00 |
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我的意思就是說，我知道他可以，以你們今年的方式，我知道他可以，但他不知道他可以啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-05-28T09:41:16.563000+08:00 |
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2026-05-28T09:41:17.444000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
他也不會啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
古主任委員秀妃 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-05-28T09:41:19.006000+08:00 |
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2026-05-28T09:41:20.428000+08:00 |
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是，所以我們會做宣傳。 |
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0.556 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-05-28T09:41:20.428000+08:00 |
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2026-05-28T09:41:32.080000+08:00 |
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我覺得不只是要宣傳而已，我覺得你們可以跟地方政府的客家局或什麼的，跟他們講、輔導他們，不然他不知道啦！沒錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-05-28T09:41:34.481000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-05-28T09:41:39.344000+08:00 |
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他每天就是在那邊，很辛苦，他怎麼會知道這個？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-05-28T09:41:39.344000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-05-28T09:41:41.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
我要說的是這個。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-05-28T09:41:41.906000+08:00 |
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2026-05-28T09:41:59.544000+08:00 |
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如果可以直接，我覺得我們客家鄉親的感受會更多，而且他購買農產品或什麼的，我不用開車去，現在配送那麼發達，他就可以這樣子賣，我覺得主委你們可以思考一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-05-28T09:41:59.765000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-05-28T09:42:08.546000+08:00 |
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另外，我們一直提到客家話，我跟你講，會講的人真的是越來越少啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.815 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-05-28T09:42:09.887000+08:00 |
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2026-05-28T09:42:23.354000+08:00 |
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我跟你講，你叫我去考試，我可以考得過，但叫我很流利的講，我也沒辦法，變成好像是第二種語言，現在臺灣年輕的客家人大概都是這樣子。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.982 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-05-28T09:42:26.335000+08:00 |
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2026-05-28T09:42:58.195000+08:00 |
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那我們要不要從生活當中……我這樣講，現在很多縣市的學校，中午都有免費的營養午餐，你們有沒有想說在生活中，你們也要跟教育部去溝通、去配合，免費營養午餐裡面，一個禮拜有沒有一次可以吃客家餐或是客家的料理，然後從那裡去推廣，你覺得呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.902 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
古主任委員秀妃 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-05-28T09:42:58.235000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-05-28T09:43:11.027000+08:00 |
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這是一個好的建議和想法，我們可以嘗試帶入，跟地方的學校來研究討論及合作。好啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.486 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-05-28T09:43:11.387000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-05-28T09:43:12.088000+08:00 |
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我為什麼要這樣講？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-05-28T09:43:12.588000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-05-28T09:43:20.215000+08:00 |
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第一個，也可以在生活中他就知道這個是客家菜，他吃得好吃，他對於客家文化就會覺得不錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-05-28T09:43:20.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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2026-05-28T09:43:29.084000+08:00 |
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另外一個，也可以照顧我們客家的鄉親，我們就是在地食材，可以在地購買客家的東西。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-05-28T09:43:29.664000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-05-28T09:43:36.911000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
我覺得很多的客家元素都在生活裡面，但都沒有被提起，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-05-28T09:43:36.911000+08:00 |
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2026-05-28T09:43:51.023000+08:00 |
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我們很多的水果，其實都是從客家庄裡面出來的，但大家不知道，就少了一個品牌在那裡，我覺得是這樣子，我不知道主委你的看法？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.943 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
古主任委員秀妃 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-05-28T09:43:51.324000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-05-28T09:44:12.039000+08:00 |
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我非常認同委員的想法，我們現在已經在籌備客家風味的食材、食物，料理比賽也好、種植也好、做加工也好，合作對象還可以增加學校，這是非常好的建議。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.613 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-05-28T09:44:15.681000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-05-28T09:44:39.843000+08:00 |
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就像主委你說的，我們去弄一個客家的料理比賽，今年前幾名的，我們希望教育部在營養午餐也幫我們推廣這幾樣菜，順便可以介紹一下，當然不是叫廠商，請學校大家……我覺得客家文化尤其在客家庄，你這樣做的話，會讓年輕的一代多多認識客家啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.911 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-05-28T09:44:40.343000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-05-28T09:44:41.343000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
可以吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
古主任委員秀妃 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-05-28T09:44:41.643000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-05-28T09:44:46.214429+08:00 |
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很好的想法，感謝委員的提供，謝謝。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-05-28T09:44:46.514429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-05-28T09:44:48.514429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
謝謝張宏陸委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-05-28T09:44:48.814429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
1 |
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2026-05-28T09:44:52.528714+08:00 |
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接下來我們請許忠信委員質詢。 |
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0 |