| IVOD_ID |
169653 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169653 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-27T10:52:36+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-27T11:00:30+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a08c85fe1a1e24a6229d2164dc1c7c5eafb12ebe7845b04eee1f29abad774ee0ed97af83b71729ba5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:52:36 - 11:00:30 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請中央選舉委員會主任委員列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於中央選舉委員會及所屬部分。【詢答及處理，所列預算提案於115年5月22日(星期五)中午12時截止收件。】
【5月27日、28日兩天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進有請我們的游主委好游主委好你被提名之後我算是這個算是 |
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很早一批也支持的我在我們內部會議我都說這個要支持因為從過去你的表現我們覺得我們對你會有期待特別在獨立性中立性中選會非常重要那今天你談了一個大題目我覺得這個你提到這個邊形的問題 |
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我覺得現在詐欺這麼嚴重獨駕這麼嚴重我都覺得不僅僅詐欺要變形了獨駕也要變形了獨駕這麼嚴重這麼嚴重那你說是什麼是敢提變形的公投公投變形這是一個什麼熱帶氣旋什麼意思你講一下我意思是說這是在行程中的一個公投議題 |
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還沒有確定你興奮嗎還沒有確定你興奮嗎你的心情對這樣的面對這公投我的心情我作為中選會主委我必須要平靜但是心裡有一點起伏有點囂張有沒有 |
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我在密切觀察這樣的一個議題的形成因為不要別忘了現在的政府是在推動要跟DEI連結要跟這個歐盟的人群兩公約連結那這個是翻旗道的歐所以我相信你心裡是有impact這樣對吧我這樣描述應該很持平我們會請委員再講一次嗎 |
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沒有 我說現在可以看啊 我們這個民進黨政府號稱要追求的是開放民主價值啊這個是以人權角度說要跟人權良公約 歐盟的人權良公約要高度的連結那這個是反人權良公約啊 這基本上是不一樣的啊我們這是自亂使用重點 |
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這是兩種不同的思維啦兩種不同的思維我內心深處的感覺我內心深處的感覺我現在是中選會主委的角色我必須扮演好這個角色我內心的感覺已經不重要了 |
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你講那個熱帶七旋就是內心感覺啊那我原理誤會了你原理是這麼大看到熱帶七旋喔 熱帶七旋喔 你說的喔委員 |
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熱帶氣旋喔 有可能會越變越大 越變越大是不是 越變越強 也有可能會消失去所以要看這個條件 看氣候對啊 我們台灣人都知道 風太大就是這樣我對你的期待這麼久了 我對你期待好大喔 熱帶氣旋喔 熱帶氣旋 你有運動 結果沒去啊 |
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我是在說一個氣象氣象的一個原理給他我跟你講一個實際的我們現在請問你公投案對你一個主委來講是不是越多越好是不是民意的展現直接民權的展現是不是是不是我們期待直接民主在台灣的落實而且壯大 |
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所以應該人民直接參與不要像這個代議政治我們直接民權的形式公投案應該越做越好這句話對不對直接民主不能取代代議民主政治代議民主政治現在就是全世界各國實施的都是代議民主政治但是我們要強化直接民主這個部分我告訴你重點因為我這個時間快到了 |
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為什麼在美國投票比如說總統投票同時選民意代表同時一張共投票共投票一張裡面可能20個案子可能25個案子 |
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這個你都很清楚啊對不對為什麼台灣就要一個案子一張票所以造成前幾年上一次地方選舉這個的一個混亂的現象現在很多特別是民進黨的政治人物在反對 |
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這些公投案用這個理由為什麼我們被淹掉了公投不能幫大選被淹掉了就是那一天的亂那一次的亂象那一次的亂象起源於一案一投一案一張選票但是美國是20案可以放在一張選票裡面就是差有夠多那我去查了去查了 |
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354.055 |
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一案一張選票是你們的行政命令法律沒有這樣規定啊法律是可以把它二十個案子放在一張裡面啊那很簡單啊我今天三年底九合一九張另外一張公投票簡單講 裡面一案十個案都要三年啊我就倒就好啊要什麼要什麼就倒下去啊這個名字叫做直接民主啊這就是我們的追求是不是這樣 |
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368.283 |
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講大家的技術面啦 當然要越來越好啦所以委員所講的這應該要大家研究啦沒有啦 我就請問你 這很重要的年底啊因為現在已經有兩個公投一個公投 雜期要變形我們度假要把它推公投可能還要提到很多啊 對不對這個時候我覺得技術面非常重要否則又會產生那一年 那一年那個事情 |
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那你要不是因為公投這裡面都亂象的話第一手中就是台北市長啦這很清楚看得到嘛對不對所以我們希望而且我查了一下 |
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法律沒有這樣規定啦這是你們的行政命令啦所以我現在就請你具體承諾一下可以不可以盡快把這個搞定可以嗎就是因為現在可能共同化很多啊老百姓直接直接人權直接民主他的提案連署人夠了什麼之類的就這樣子可能案子很多啊十個二十個阿你說阿你不能搞得怎麼樣 |
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所有有助於健全直接民主有意義公投的我們都應該去你現在承諾我你要不要去監視一案一張選票的必要性我們來研究多案把它放在一張裡面我們來研究學美國學歐洲人家怎麼做你都很清楚啊 |
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452.79 |
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我們去研究最後一個小題目你是民調專家民調容易做假嗎 |
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作假,要看人,看機構民調我覺得除非蓄意民調可以manipulate,但是不是每一個人都會去manipulate基本上不太容易,我覺得這樣,除非刻意謝謝 |