| IVOD_ID |
169619 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169619 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-35-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
18 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-25T11:26:04+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-25T11:34:12+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:08 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fad20b8d851f264df4199bdcffd244526c3057ea1a5ec31eaf3d8c73d94143d9f0631761c12512c65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:26:04 - 11:34:12 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：邀請外交部部長林佳龍、國家安全局局長蔡明彥報告「美中元首峰會後地緣政治新局對我國外交及總體國家安全之衝擊評估與因應」，併請大陸委員會列席，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席有請外交部的林部長以及國安局的蔡局長兩位長官一起請林部長蔡局長還是隨著剛才委員有提到的我覺得兩位長官要不要就是川普一直講Keep talking就是說台灣偷了美國的晶片 |
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如果他早一點做,就不會有這個事情發生等等的除了你在這裡講,我們就大大方方開大門走大陸外交部或者國安局編預算登在他們主要媒體,主流媒體,SRM登報,登報報告委員,我們在這裡對您的質詢回答應該是各報都會報啊不是啊,登在美國報紙啦我說去美國那裡登美國報紙啦 |
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那個委員如果有這樣的建議我們來研究怎麼樣在美國的報紙用英文去發表一個我們台灣政府的立場比如說華盛頓郵報 華盛頓Post比如說New York Times 紐約時報等等報告委員 你剛剛講這幾個報都替我們講話了他們甚至用社論在反駁川普總統的講法你登廣告代表我們的立場是不太一樣的一個版面多少錢啊 |
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謝謝委員的支持 如果大院有這樣的建議我們研究看怎麼辦理我們請同仁研究一下要看什麼報 銷售量如何 影響力大小來 蔡局長要說什麼 你同意我做做法嗎對外的宣傳不是我們情報單位的業務 這個敲人鎖啦報告委員 我們現在沒有沒宣費啦 |
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所以剛剛我同仁告訴我說 現在會有困難怎麼會沒有 我們現在不能說 你們被你堆啊怎麼被你堆啊 怎麼沒有呢不要亂講 都還沒有審呢對不起 報告委員因為去年的預算被刪掉那今年的預算還沒有過還沒過啊 有編啊今年只能按照去年的 那所以今年的還沒有過好啦 不要亂講話 來第二個 第二個來 第二個第二個 |
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現在通通加回來了 通通加回來了第二個我們來講一下 |
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這個我還是很關心川普會不會打電話給賴清德你說尹用跟蔡英文那時候不一樣喔那時候蔡英文是現任總統川普是總統當選的不一樣現在兩個都是現任總統那個外交上的意義是很大的意義不是小事是很大的事情他等於要川普 |
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如果對我們來講當然很好 外交可以這樣一個突破可是要問他內容啊 內容如果說 Mr. Lai 我跟你講啊因為所以我不賣武器了 這個武器在924以後第二次春喜會以後 我再準10月份或者11月選完眾議員再給你 |
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就一得一失 失的還比較多咧 人家說得還多重要這時候我們要武器 當然我們希望能夠武器 要給我們啊我給你們兩位長官講啦 你口口吹口口吹看喔 現在為止我們TPS77 78 雷達都有發架數 到現在為止都沒叫火F16V 今年確定不可能全部叫 |
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人稀釋用人扛的刺針飛彈經過十年到現在為止一顆彈也沒有 |
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一直催我們給錢給錢啊幾千億的準備都在那裡了他不給啊他給你拖啊這個要讓大家知道啊不是說這個時候不支持什麼國防部要立法院就配合了要錢就給錢了所以清楚看得到這個老實講這個林部長啊你要有機會啦我想我不知道川普會不會打給你啦機會不大吧 |
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他說他可以打電話給任何人啊所以包括你你包括蔡局長是不是蔡局長蔡局長講一下啊你很高興啊在那裡笑很詭異的一抹微笑來蔡局長回答給你是不是沒有 台美之間的溝通管道非常的順暢也多元啊那假如有領導人之間的通話我想一旦有相關那你沒有透過適當的管道跟川普講一下啊快點靠我啊 |
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你有跟他說過嗎?或者是林部長,你有沒有透過適當的管道告訴華府說叫川普打給你,那時候你就請進來了,有嗎?主動權在川普總統,不是,你有沒有跟那邊聯繫,有沒有?我們都有聯繫,管道溝通也都很順暢聯繫打電話的事,有沒有?因為主動權在川普總統 |
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你要告訴他啦 要卡就趕快卡啦來我問一個很實際的問題這看哪位長官可以講現在看到我們一直希望加入CPTPP但是另外一個中國大陸主導的RCEPRCEP它總共15個國家加入GDP占全世界三成CPTPP呢 |
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大概這個是15個國家接受CPTPP12個國家人口數跟GDP佔15%左右差一半啦這個以我們來講我們只希望能夠加入CPTPP啊這裡面來講 哪一位長官可以回答我我們對這個看法怎麼樣 |
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我們現在確實有在申請要加入CPTPP但是都沒有進度啊現在如果這兩個一結合我們更沒有機會因為RCEP是老共在主導的乾屁對 但是這個引起很多反彈啊包括中共利用這次APEC想要談這個問題很多國家就覺得不適合啊來 蔡局長要講一下你國安局常務的資訊有沒有這回事老共要把這兩個連結有沒有這回事 |
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沒有 有聽到這樣的一個說法啦但是在政策推動上我們在注意他有沒有一些具體的作為這個日本4月21日修訂他的防衛裝備移轉三軍制 |
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第一批就賣給Australia 十一艘的護衛艦 七十億美金外界很擔心一個東西喔 日本軍國主義是不是再起來這個蔡局長要不要做一點呼應 我就下去了 |
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因為我想日本方面他對於他的一個防衛政策的一個調整最近確實有新的變化那包括防衛裝備的出口給菲律賓跟委員剛剛所提到的澳洲還不止喔他下一批還要給紐西蘭喔還要給其他的國家喔 |
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對 他現在在區域安全的角色扮演的是比過去來得更積極對啊 那就是代表有一點往軍工主義的方向走啦不過另外一方面 因為中共在區域裡面的軍事活動比較多所以印太的這些有門國家對於要現代化自己的作業都有這樣的需求你們有沒有正在評估 如果美國武器買了不順利跟日本買 |
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所以各種的可能方案都不能排除各種可能方案都不能夠所以不排除我們跟買武器所以各種可能的要小心回答這個題目都會評估各種可能性謝委員好 謝謝賴委員 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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謝謝主席，有請外交部林部長以及國安局蔡局長。 |
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主席 |
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請林部長、蔡局長。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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還是隨著剛才委員提到的議題，兩位長官要不要因應川普一直講、keep talking，說臺灣偷了美國的晶片，如果他早一點做，就不會有這個事情發生等等的？ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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除了你在這裡講，我們就大大方方、開大門走大路，外交部或者國安局編預算，登在他們主要媒體、主流媒體，可以嗎？登報。 |
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林部長佳龍 |
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報告委員，我們在這裡針對您的質詢、回答，各報應該都會報。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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不是，登在美國報紙，去美國那裡登美國報紙。 |
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林部長佳龍 |
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委員如果有這樣的建議，我們來研究怎麼樣在美國的報紙用英文發表臺灣政府的立場…… |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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當然是英文啊！ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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比如說華盛頓郵報（The Washington Post）、紐約時報（The New York Times）等等的…… |
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林部長佳龍 |
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報告委員，你剛剛講的這幾個報紙都替我們講話了，他們甚至用社論反駁川普總統的講法。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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那跟你登廣告代表我們的立場是不太一樣的。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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一個版面多少錢？ |
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林部長佳龍 |
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謝謝委員的支持。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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一個版面多少錢？ |
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林部長佳龍 |
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如果大院有這樣的建議…… |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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一個版面多少錢？ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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我問你多少錢！ |
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林部長佳龍 |
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我們研究看看怎麼辦理。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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一個版面多少錢？ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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1 |
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你沒有回答我。 |
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林部長佳龍 |
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我們請同仁研究一下，要看什麼報，要看銷售量、影響力大小。 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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蔡局長，要說一下嗎？ |
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賴委員士葆 |
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你同意我這個做法嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-05-25T11:27:34.106000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-05-25T11:27:35.266000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
對外宣傳不是我們情報單位的業務，這個強人所難。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-05-25T11:27:35.406000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-05-25T11:27:58.591000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
報告委員，我們現在沒有媒宣費，剛剛我的同仁告訴我會有困難。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
王委員鴻薇 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-05-25T11:27:58.591000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-05-25T11:27:59.152000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
怎麼會沒有！ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-05-25T11:27:59.152000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-05-25T11:28:00.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
怎麼會沒有媒宣費？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-05-25T11:28:00.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-05-25T11:28:00.672000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
隨便亂說，你們編一堆。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.444 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-05-25T11:28:00.672000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-05-25T11:28:04.594000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
來，請司長來說。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-05-25T11:28:04.594000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-05-25T11:28:06.856000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
不要亂講，都還沒有審。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
王司長良玉 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-05-25T11:28:06.956000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-05-25T11:28:11.358000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
對不起，報告委員，因為去年的預算被刪掉，今年的預算還沒有過，今年預算只能按照去年…… |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.722 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-05-25T11:28:11.358000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-05-25T11:28:13.399000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
還沒過，但有編啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
王司長良玉 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-05-25T11:28:13.959000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-05-25T11:28:16.881000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
今年只能按照去年，今年的還沒有過…… |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-05-25T11:28:18.302000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-05-25T11:28:18.562000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
不要亂講話！ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-05-25T11:28:25.016000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-05-25T11:28:27.141000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
現在通通加回來了…… |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-05-25T11:28:27.141000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-05-25T11:28:28.141000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
委員支持，我們謝謝你。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-05-25T11:28:28.103000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-05-25T11:28:28.705000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
通通加回來了啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-05-25T11:28:28.825000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-05-25T11:28:36.641000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
第二個，我們講一下，我還是很關心川普會不會打電話給賴清德？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-05-25T11:28:37.681000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-05-25T11:29:01.272000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
你說引用蔡英文的時期，那時候不一樣，那時候蔡英文是現任總統，川普是總統當選人，不一樣，現在兩個都是現任總統，外交上有很大的意義，不是小事，是很大的事情，他等於……川普如果打了，對我們來講當然很好，外交可以突破，可是要問他內容，內容如果是：Mr. Lai，我跟你講，因為怎麼樣所以我不賣武器了，武器在9月24日第二次川習會議以後，我10月份或者11月選完眾議員再給你。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.89 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-05-25T11:29:24.362000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-05-25T11:29:33.265000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
一得一失，失還比較多，人家講得多重要，這時候我們當然希望武器要給我們。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-05-25T11:29:33.325000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-05-25T11:29:34.285000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
我跟你們兩位長官講，你一直催，你看喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.688 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-05-25T11:29:34.305000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-05-25T11:29:34.785000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
現在為止，我們TPS-77、TPS-78雷達都有發價書，到現在為止都沒交貨。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-05-25T11:29:34.925000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-05-25T11:29:35.485000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
F-16V今年確定不可能全部交。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-05-25T11:29:53.725000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-05-25T11:30:01.622000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
用人扛的人攜式刺針飛彈，經過10年到現在為止，一顆彈影都沒有，一直催我們給錢，給錢了啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.838 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-05-25T11:30:01.642000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-05-25T11:30:02.303000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
幾千億都準備在那裡了，他不給啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-05-25T11:30:02.403000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-05-25T11:30:02.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
他給你拖啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-05-25T11:30:02.583000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-05-25T11:30:05.284000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
這個要讓大家知道，不要說我們不支持國防，要立法院……立法院都配合了，要錢也給錢了，這很清楚看得到……老實講，林部長，我不知道川普有沒有打給你？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.783 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-05-25T11:30:05.424000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-05-25T11:30:05.544000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
機會不大吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-05-25T11:30:31.381000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-05-25T11:30:31.541000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
他說他可以打電話給任何人啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-05-25T11:30:31.561000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-05-25T11:30:31.801000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
所以包括你，也包括蔡局長，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-05-25T11:30:31.821000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-05-25T11:30:32.361000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
蔡局長，請你講一下，你看起來很高興，在那邊笑，很詭異的一抹微笑。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-05-25T11:30:32.502000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-05-25T11:30:32.562000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
他打給你，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-05-25T11:30:32.582000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-05-25T11:30:32.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
沒有，臺美之間的溝通管道非常順暢，也多元啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-05-25T11:30:33.002000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-05-25T11:30:33.302000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
假如有領導之間的通話，我想一旦有相關的，美方提出的需求，我們會規劃。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.567 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-05-25T11:30:33.322000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-05-25T11:30:33.842000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
你沒有透過適當的管道跟川普講一下，趕快打給我啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.864 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-05-25T11:31:01.287000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-05-25T11:31:03.227000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
你有跟他講一下嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-05-25T11:31:03.227000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-05-25T11:31:07.489000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
或者是林部長，你有沒有透過適當的管道，告訴華府叫川普打給你？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-05-25T11:31:07.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-05-25T11:31:08.109000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
到時候你就紅了。有嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-05-25T11:31:08.109000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-05-25T11:31:09.109000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
請問部長，有沒有跟…… |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-05-25T11:31:08.109000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-05-25T11:31:08.429000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
報告，主動權在川普總統。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-05-25T11:31:08.749000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-05-25T11:31:09.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
你有沒有跟那邊聯繫，有沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-05-25T11:31:09.829000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-05-25T11:31:10.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
我們都有聯繫管道，溝通也都很順暢。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-05-25T11:31:10.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-05-25T11:31:11.509000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
聯繫有關打電話的事，有沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-05-25T11:31:11.529000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-05-25T11:31:11.770000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
因為主動權在川普總統。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-05-25T11:31:30.584000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-05-25T11:31:32.145000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
你要跟他講，要打就趕快打啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-05-25T11:31:32.145000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-05-25T11:31:33.145000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
這樣吊人家胃口很不好。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-05-25T11:31:33.126000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-05-25T11:32:05.446000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
我問一個很實際的問題，看哪位長官可以回答，現在我們一直希望加入CPTPP，但是另外一個由中國大陸主導的RCEP，總共有15個國家加入，GDP占全世界3成，而CPTPP是12個國家，人口數跟GDP占百分之十五左右，GDP差一半。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.859 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-05-25T11:32:05.566000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-05-25T11:32:08.729000+08:00 |
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以我們來講，一直希望能夠加入CPTPP，哪一位長官可以回答我，你們對這件事的看法怎麼樣？ |
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0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-05-25T11:32:19.253000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-05-25T11:32:23.377000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
我們現在確實有在申請要加入CPTPP。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-05-25T11:32:23.637000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-05-25T11:32:25.118000+08:00 |
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可是都沒有進度啊！ |
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0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-05-25T11:32:25.398000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-05-25T11:32:31.384000+08:00 |
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現在如果這兩個結合，我們更沒有機會，因為RCEP是老共在主導的，是不是？對。 |
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0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
林部長佳龍 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-05-25T11:32:31.384000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-05-25T11:32:37.969000+08:00 |
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但是這個也引起很多反彈，包括中共利用這次APEC想要談這個問題，很多國家就覺得不適合。 |
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0.975 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-05-25T11:32:38.810000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-05-25T11:32:39.170000+08:00 |
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蔡局長，你要不要回答一下？ |
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0.545 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-05-25T11:32:39.190000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-05-25T11:32:41.292000+08:00 |
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你是國安局局長，就你獲得的資訊，老共要把這兩個連結，有沒有這回事？ |
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0.759 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
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2026-05-25T11:32:46.446000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-05-25T11:32:51.492000+08:00 |
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有聽到這樣的一個說法，但是在政策推動上，我們再注意它有沒有一些具體的作為。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-05-25T11:32:51.492000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-05-25T11:33:15.497000+08:00 |
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最後一個問題，日本在4月21日修訂他們的防衛裝備移轉三原則，第一批是賣給Australia 70億美金的11艘護衛艦，外界很擔心一個東西，日本軍國主義是不是要再起來？ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-05-25T11:33:15.497000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-05-25T11:33:17.218000+08:00 |
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針對這個問題，蔡局長要不要做一點回應？ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.706 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-05-25T11:33:18.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-05-25T11:33:29.487000+08:00 |
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我想日本方面對於他們防衛政策的調整，最近確實有新的變化，包括防衛裝備出口給菲律賓，跟委員剛剛所提到的澳洲…… |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.98 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-05-25T11:33:29.828000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-05-25T11:33:30.188000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
還不只喔！ |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-05-25T11:33:30.668000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-05-25T11:33:36.393000+08:00 |
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下一批還要提供給紐西蘭及其他國家。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-05-25T11:33:36.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-05-25T11:33:39.597000+08:00 |
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他們現在在區域安全的角色所扮演得比過去來得更積極。對啊！ |
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0.885 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-05-25T11:33:39.878000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-05-25T11:33:43.042000+08:00 |
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就是代表有一點往軍國主義的方向走了。 |
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0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-05-25T11:33:43.943000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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2026-05-25T11:33:50.871000+08:00 |
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另外一方面，因為中共在區域裡面的軍事活動比較多，所以印太的這些友盟國家，對於要現代化自己的裝備也都有這樣的需求。 |
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0.904 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-05-25T11:33:51.152000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-05-25T11:33:54.856000+08:00 |
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你們有沒有正在評估，如果美國武器買得不順利的話，有沒有可能跟日本買？ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.742 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-05-25T11:33:58.501000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-05-25T11:33:59.643000+08:00 |
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對於各種可能的方案都不能夠排除。 |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-05-25T11:33:59.643000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-05-25T11:34:01.747000+08:00 |
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所以我們不排除跟日本買武器？ |
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0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-05-25T11:34:03.129000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-05-25T11:34:03.891000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
要小心回答這個題目喔！ |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-05-25T11:34:03.891000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-05-25T11:34:04.891000+08:00 |
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對於各種可能的武器或裝備，我們會審慎及詳細評估各種可能性。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.296 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
蔡局長明彥 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-05-25T11:34:04.732000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-05-25T11:34:04.833000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
謝謝委員。 |
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0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-05-25T11:34:04.833000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-05-25T11:34:04.873000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝賴委員。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-05-25T11:34:05.373000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-05-25T11:34:09.087286+08:00 |
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接下來請洪孟楷委員上臺質詢。 |
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0 |