| IVOD_ID |
169618 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169618 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-5-20,35-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政、外交及國防委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政、外交及國防委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-25T11:26:04+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-25T11:32:50+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:46 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fad20b8d851f264df4199bdcffd244522d2fd26c46360376af3d8c73d94143d9c7b66ba030a8f37c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王安祥 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:26:04 - 11:32:50 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政、外交及國防委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函請審議「115年度中央政府保衛國家安全及強化不對稱戰力計畫採購特別預算案」案。(詢答及處理)【5月25日、5月27日及5月28日三天一次會】【預算提案截止時間：5月25日(星期一)下午4時】） |
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委員長我們條例過去在討論的時候多半比較跟國防部這邊在做一些討論所以今天難得主席長在我就跟您討論一下有關於錢的部分預算的部分 |
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我們現在在審115年的同時也在審特別條例的預算基本上我們有稍微對了一下就是說我們有很多延續性的軍購的案子我們去大概列了一下就是在我這個投影片上有好幾案應該是到115年就會到期 |
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41.701 |
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48.587 |
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所以我們大概計算了一下 到期的數量大概會到118億左右大概115年會到 因為可以釋放出115年到期就有兩筆嘛一個是新日戰機採購298還有海豐戰力提升293應該會有一些在年度預算的額度可以釋放出來 |
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72.901 |
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96.122 |
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這是特別預算的,不是年度預算的對,我說這個都到齊了嘛,這幾件啦就是在,你應該看到我的那個所謂的那個投影片上面,大家看到有好幾件是115年的嘛國防部提供的吧也許國防部會比較清楚一點 |
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121.426 |
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那個都是多年期的延續的案子嘛我們去查一下那個跟委員報告你列的這個可能是持續性的軍頭案不是擺在特別預算的裡面那特別預算有兩個一個是海空戰力特別提升一個是F16B的那裡面還有一個韌性的特別預算對所以我說不是我的意思是說就常規年度預算來說應該會有一些額度會釋放出來 |
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122.387 |
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143.734 |
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因為我們現在在討論上有一些軍頭的持續案就是這樣子就是說我們每年編但是一個多年期的一個計畫案那它今年可能會有多少要付款那就會在我們的軍事投資這個鄉下就把它編到那裡去所以115年我們才會說持續案以外要新增再有新增軍頭案才只有84億 |
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144.994 |
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156.263 |
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這些是軍事的投資暗巷我們要持續的護管那尤其這兩三年是一個護管高峰期所以我的意思是說是不是有些已經在115年就會結束就明年度啦116啦我現在說的是116了啦會不會就有一些額度可以釋放出來 |
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額度就是116我們還是會有持續的案子包委員那個116是不會有多餘的額度可以用到期還會有新的再加上去我們之前已經說明過了前面我們已經暫緩了12個重大案項高達760億然後我們這一次特別預算案項裡面沒有納進去 |
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201.458 |
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執行的這些案項也必須檢討有部分會放在公務預算裡面是是是 所以我關心的就是這一塊啦因為今天是 經濟部排擠對就是我當然很關心說如果嘛因為現在看起來幾天這邊說有三種可能的方式嘛那我現在就問的是說年度預算上 |
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還是說有可能會增加主委長有沒有可能像今年額度好像相較114我們現在省115大概還是增加了大概200多億所以這個部分鮑委我們現在要確定的就是說我們在這一次總預算檢討完之後有多少 |
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| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
228.952 |
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追加的額度可以容納然後接下來我們才去檢討後續有多少空間第一個就是說我們現在要編116年那我們現在要看116年主席總書給我們的國防預算增加到多少 |
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237.939 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
257.852 |
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那我們就要看我們現在沒有納入特別預算的案項還有我們本來就要新增的這些案項我們要排一個優序主席講對啊所以剛剛部長說你覺得116把他排進來那如果真的有一些不夠我想我們會建議主席總書讓我們同意擺入今年的最佳預算是是大概是有可能會這樣來處理嘛主席講你覺得 |
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288.641 |
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這個對於整個啦 國家的財政上您覺得這個因為大家很關心啦 我很關心啦 因為有些可能大家常說要編到年度預算去嘛是 那我們現在正在籌編116年度的一個總預算嘛那現在各大單位他會進行審查那中長程計畫或者科技預算包括我們法律義務應該編列的相關經費還有包括一些社會福利相關的一個經費那今年到底要不要調整 還有包括要不要調薪 |
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289.301 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
292.742 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
所以這些都拿進來之後那我們還要看今年的那個國防運算到底是GDP要成長多少這個部分納入考量之後 |
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309.306 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
326.499 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
有多少的額度去承擔說他所要增加的一個金額對 甚至那個北約的時候我也大概算了一下啦我剛剛過大概過3%左右啦如果我們要維持這個部分可能這個主委長可能還是要稍微傷腦筋一下對 如果要維持3%至少還可能要再增加國防預算要增加2000億那這個部分 |
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330.269 |
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352.385 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
對 我今天要質詢就是問說現在想知道一下啦 因為難得看到主席長因為這個是錢還是經費還是非常重要是 所以這個部分其實我們一直都在試算試算說大概是需要多少那將來有沒有相關的排擠 費用那這樣子在稅務的部分是不是能夠能夠支應這個部分我一再的在試算 謝謝好 好 感謝主席長 |
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353.246 |
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371.517 |
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那我接下來就講這一張啦這一張就是剛剛也有前面委員他也在討論這個海馬仕的部分部長這個應該剛剛聽起來我剛剛聽前面這個委員問應該是沒有問題嘛因為5月31號好像要到期就是不管是簽署或是投機款看起來那個部長這邊都已經在處理了嘛 |
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372.257 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
392.226 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
我們預算由行政院送到立法院之後就可以依照預算法的84條那也感覺為就是說我們同意就當時在協商也同意84條我們可以先行政院合併就可以先行致用所以海馬市應該現在是沒有什麼應該是OK的啦那個時程上的合併我想我們已經送到行政院行政院應該很快就會合併好感謝 謝謝部長 謝謝主席長 |
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393.987 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
405.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
謝謝我們結束王安祥委員的質詢接下來黃建斌 黃建斌 黃建斌委員接下來王世堅 王世堅 王世堅委員不在來 黃人 黃人 |