| IVOD_ID |
169580 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169580 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第11次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第11次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-22T15:04:01+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-22T15:19:43+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:42 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
15:04:01 - 15:19:43 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第11次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。二、5月22日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、5月26日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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接下來請賴世寶委員質詢王世堅委員請準備謝謝主席韓院長以及各位先進有請行政院的卓院長麻煩請卓院長 |
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賴委員好院長辛苦 辛苦到最近脾氣沒有那麼好 剛才那麼兇不是 我不是互短其實沒有必要一個公務員在參加國際會議不需要在國內用這種方式我們應該鼓勵他的任何事情回來我們秉公處理你這樣講你的立場但是我覺得對國會議員的尊重要有一定的尊重你要尊重公務員你來這裡韓院長剛出國回來他也知道外交多困難 |
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一個國務委員在外面打拚不需要這個樣子大家將心比心我本來想說讓你有一個態度表示堅頭一點對一個女性的國務委員表達一點你的你不要說前一步那麼對一個女性的政委也表達一點尊重不行嗎你對一個立委這樣一個女性立委這樣形容也不好我們對女性的政委也要尊重一下 |
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左院長 剛才態度你不好 我要跟你說我第三者的觀點是這樣看的 就是我的看法我們看現在的石部長在哪裡 今天石部長沒有來他也是參加會議對 他參加會議 參加WHA不得其門而入 民進黨執政之後兩岸關係啟動 國際組織一籌莫展 |
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除了第一年林作援的時候那時候是因為那時候還沒交接所以呢是馬英九的執政的好奇林作援可以用衛生部 衛福部長去參加之後十年了 都沒有都沒有啦齁不管這裡面 恰羅達古 布卡某幾波齁那我就問院長責任在我身上來來你先不要急齁請你尊重我吧 |
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你要大聲我可以大聲弄這樣不好好我沒有我沒有請你回答請你不要講話好我就跟你講現在 |
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世衛組織世衛大會我們的態度到底怎麼樣因為美國剛好推出了62個國際組織第一個全中國在WHOWHO跟它有關係的年度大會WHA |
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我們就沒辦法參加這個當然很遺憾啦老共的打壓我們覺得是NO不接受老共的打壓這沒有問題但是這個就是凸顯的一個東西凸顯的一個東西是什麼凸顯的東西是林鄒元第一次開始那時候蔡英文當總統的時候她是用潛入台北參加這個世衛的大會世衛的大會很清楚看得到 |
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那是什麼兩岸關係可以這個無際關係就可以來來拓展我們的國際空間就可以來拓展很清楚的看得到以現在來講的話呢就變成兩岸關係越來越糟所以我們國際組織我們根本就沒辦法參加來院長你講一下兩岸關係不好責任難道都全部在我們嗎 |
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對方軍機軍艦經常累月了台灣海周遭四處圍繞這個您難道沒有一點感受嗎這個東西啊銅板沒有兩個打不響啦我們有去他家講嗎我們對他不好所以兩個就不好起來了滿久時候好來好去就不一樣來這個都不是我還要問的重點我要問的重點在於剛才你提到的楊振寧請問楊振寧現在在哪裡在江蘇啊 |
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在江蘇 在大陸 做什麼事參加IPEC的會情會IPEC什麼時候舉行請問院長 IPEC什麼大會IPEC正式大會什麼時候舉行這就是部長級會議他最後的最後是11月底要在深圳舉行現在是部長級會議楊振尼參加部長級的會議 |
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老公哪裡說你要參加這個APEC要在一中原則跟APEC相關的諒解備忘錄的前提下才可以參加你不接受你去囉你不接受了嗎 |
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今天的WHA也是這樣的一個原則老實講WHA也是潛意識台配現在APEC也是潛意識台配為什麼APEC我們就可以去WHA我們去不了為什麼查理多維你告訴我看他有沒有發邀請函來 |
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少不了錢我們的名稱有沒有當然沒有啊沒有要去爭取啊APEC有啊什麼東西APEC有發邀請函來他就寫喔他是一中原則喔所以你接受他有發邀請函來你接受是不是請問來院長你接受嗎 |
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所以中國常常搞這種小動作你也知道 |
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因為他的搞小動作我們經常要做在一種非常抗議嚴正的態度底下去參加各種國際會議這就是台灣今天的處境參加比台灣的國際空間很辛苦大家都知道但是參加比什麼都重要今天如果沒有參加我們奧運也不能打啊什麼地方都不能去我們可以在你先不要講我沒跟你講我們在抗議底下我們去就可以這個態度就是對的我現在跟你強調是這個參加比什麼都重要讓台灣 |
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我們在醫療方面在今天的APEC在經貿方面的成就讓世界看得到我們的努力讓世界看得到這個沒有人反對他有的發邀請函有的不發啊他也沒有原則啊 |
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他有發 我們也可以不要去啊你靠keeping就不要去啊靠keeping就不要去 你說他上面是一種原則啊委員的建議我們都聽到了我說靠keeping就不要去 對吧他都想一種原則啊跟APEC諒解別人的路啊你就不要接受對不對 你去的就是接受我們不接受這種小動作啦我們要照國際組織的規範像奧會模式去奧會模式各種國際組織規範我們都遵守 |
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所以你樂見我們參加APEC了我們在國際組織規範裡面去參加對任何中方的小動作我們都要嚴正的提出態度院長我這樣講我再講一個我禮拜二講的啦 |
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亞洲開發銀行ADB我們是創始會員股叫ROC啊被改成台北卡馬遷啊叫中國台北我們還是去啊錢照交 你知道一年交多少錢嗎會員會員會員知道我寫嗎一百萬美金嘛我們一年交一百萬美金啦名稱你被挨花啊 |
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但是要不要去 還是要去啊國際空間 我們創始會員國就是我們是會員國之一創始的 結果怎麼把我們這樣子呢但是還是要去 有去才有聲音沒有去 沒有聲音今天的APEC 今天你派人家去是對的 |
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是對的 年底11月也要參加深圳的大會這個參加比什麼都重要我們的聲音聽得見嗎同樣的 現在來講聲音我就問院長川普總統說要打電話給賴總統有打了嗎有收到沒有他不會打到行政院來我不知道所以你不知道 所以你出發前你出發前 他沒有打給賴總統吧 |
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到現在還沒有任何的訊息那他們講的海軍他們的海軍代理部長說沒有了沒有140億美金了 確定嗎 |
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我們有注意到各種的發言在這個發言之後還有多次其他不一樣這個內容的發言也都是在支持繼續來執行140億的軍售就在海軍代理部長之後的發言還是有其他的發言我們會陸續持續觀察回到我們這兩天大家很多的看法 |
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很多人看法就是說 今天如果川普總統可以打電話給賴總統 這個是外交戰 這突破 外交戰 加分但是又問 講啥 講說害誰 我不賣武器給你了 這個扣分打電話是加分 說不賣武器給你 這個是大扣分那現在看起來這兩個都沒有 |
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就是說他沒有打電話然後也不賣了啊這是最壞的結果就如果要說因為不賣了所以打電話就說抱歉喔最少外交還加一點分就像外交也沒有加分然後呢 全國也沒有這對我們傷害很大耶 院長對我們傷害很大 你要不要講一下 |
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委員跟我都沒有辦法在這裡揣測川普總統什麼時候會打什麼電話來談什麼事情我們都無法揣測所以也不必要在這裡公開說所以到目前為止沒有打電話嗎我沒有得到任何訊息沒有嘛 到目前為止美國的海軍代理部長說140億美金的軍售台灣 沒有了 |
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我們有注意到這個發言但是我們更注意到其後很多不同的發言也在支持繼續執行這項軍售的發言也有來我們來看齁這個衛福部次長在這裡也要讓你表現一下來看到電子菸齁 |
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電子煙現在不合法嘛對吧電子煙不合法不合法 加熱也是合法加熱煙那個頭那個煙在上面 加熱煙電子煙是沒有的齁電子煙是化學物還有法學東西齁就叫賭架變成你看到你的小孩 |
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2024年比2023年成長的731%叫獨家的肇事成長731%造成15個死亡90個傷亡2025年年增率227%死掉16個傷了200多個很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
690.345 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
710.501 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
去年的時候 獨家時間8500多件 今年1月份1200多件2月份將近900件 3月份1100件 所以今年絕對破萬面臨這樣的事情有一個很重要的 我就很具體的很具體的聚焦在一個地方 這個地方是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
711.977 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
733.909 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
有些人駕駛的時候 旁邊放一個電磁炎 不合法喔 你看了不起眼 好 輸血 輸血 輸血很像吸鴉片一樣 洗一下 精神很好 繼續開警察在交通檢查的時候 檢查就沒有去管他 我就問一個問題 外務部我們要不要一起來努力 我們立法院願意支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
735.938 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
759.466 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
電子菸的載具如果警方看到了目錄電子菸的載具本來就是非法的啊 本來就違法啊好 那我就告訴我告訴院長齁這個次長你不知道地方衛生局本來就可以查處了這個是員警跟我陳情的員警跟我陳情說現在沒有法 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
761.155 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
768.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
他們在執行說要酒駕的時候 旁邊看到電子煙的載具他不能沒錄 因為法沒有說可以沒錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
769.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
797.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
我們有規劃要修煙害防治法我們把它沒錄可以嗎我們現在正在規劃加強煙害防治法煙害防治法我會來修要沒錄只要你發現就沒錄這個影響很大影響很大那我看到這個院長對於大麻的看法要不要再重申一遍你是不是反對在台灣大麻合法化是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
798.732 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
818.505 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
大麻合法化台灣現在我認為要討論這個要得到社會很大的共識目前這個討論的空間我個人認為還並不存在大麻合法化的問題因為我來做功課了卓榮泰強烈的表達反對大麻合法化 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
820.517 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
847.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
你講這一句話我是給你肯定的因為貴黨很多人在推動大麻要合法化我覺得社會的共識還沒有達到那樣子而且也不需要很多的綠營民進黨人士在推大麻合法化這個我們強烈反對那你的話我再把它再repeat一遍這個值得肯定我們希望你繼續堅持來我們來看搶救少子化你知道我們一年預算變多少才少子化嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
848.721 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
873.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
一年變多少?預算目前來看也是一千多億一千兩百多億結果去年人口有多少?去年出生人口有多少?你知道嗎?十萬七千多十萬多啊!錢花一千兩百多億結果呢?十萬啊!還不到死亡人數的一半欸!很可憐欸!講給台灣快要亡國變這個樣子啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
874.881 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
900.695 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
所以我們必須要有一個新的對策對策 你那個加五千那個東西那個方向沒有人分對大方向我們要努力大方向我們努力 但是有幾個要考慮第一個 一年要兩千億每一年要兩千億 你要錢怎麼來你要不要講一下錢怎麼來兩千億的錢怎麼來你明年開始實施 兩千億怎麼來 你告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
902.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
928.537 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
我們在考慮這個政策對策的時候我們當然有考慮到國家財政的結構跟能力你回答很簡單 他們增加 增加了五千億就有了 兩千億在哪裡啊你說 哼 這在哪裡兩千億有啊 怎麼沒有錢但是對於我們的一些的比較辛苦的 弱勢的這個家庭其實這一部分都沒問題啦所以我提個很大膽的啦老實講 這個這些政策 比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
929.878 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
938.032 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
神一台給一百萬啦這更好啦認真思考啦那更要考慮財政問題我算過沒有多少錢 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:04:12.959000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:04:16.742000+08:00 |
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謝謝主席韓院長以及各位先進。 |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:04:16.742000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[1].end |
2026-05-22T15:04:23.708000+08:00 |
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有請行政院卓院長。 |
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1 |
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主席 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-05-22T15:04:23.708000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2026-05-22T15:04:24.048000+08:00 |
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麻煩請卓院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-05-22T15:04:32.926000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2026-05-22T15:04:33.086000+08:00 |
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賴委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-05-22T15:04:33.967000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:04:34.607000+08:00 |
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院長，辛苦了！ |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-05-22T15:04:34.607000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-05-22T15:04:36.128000+08:00 |
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不會、不會。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-05-22T15:04:36.128000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-05-22T15:04:39.210000+08:00 |
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你最近脾氣沒有那麼好，剛才那麼兇！ |
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0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-05-22T15:04:39.210000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-05-22T15:04:40.151000+08:00 |
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不是，我不是護短。 |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-05-22T15:04:40.351000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-05-22T15:04:40.931000+08:00 |
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其實沒有必要啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-05-22T15:04:41.192000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-05-22T15:04:50.438000+08:00 |
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一個公務員在參加國際會議，不需要在國內用這種方式對待，我們應該鼓勵，他的任何事情，回來我們秉公處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.956 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-05-22T15:04:50.578000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-05-22T15:04:56.762000+08:00 |
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你講你的立場，但是我覺得對國會議員要有一定的尊重。 |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-05-22T15:04:57.282000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-05-22T15:04:57.743000+08:00 |
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我一樣尊重公務員。 |
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0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-05-22T15:04:57.743000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-05-22T15:04:59.564000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
你來這裡…… |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-05-22T15:04:59.564000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-05-22T15:05:06.589000+08:00 |
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韓院長剛出國回來，他也知道外交多困難，一個公務員在外面打拼，不需要這個樣子，大家將心比心。 |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-05-22T15:05:07.149000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-05-22T15:05:14.395000+08:00 |
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好了，你這種態度，我本來想說讓你有一個態度，gentle一點，對一個女性的國會議員表達你的……我們不要說歉意，我看起來是很大聲啦…… |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.509 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-05-22T15:05:14.675000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-05-22T15:05:17.337000+08:00 |
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那我們對一個女性的政委也表達一點尊重，不行嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-05-22T15:05:17.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-05-22T15:05:20.680000+08:00 |
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你對一個女性立委這樣大聲，不好，我跟你講…… |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-05-22T15:05:21.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-05-22T15:05:22.802000+08:00 |
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我們對女性的政委也要尊重一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-05-22T15:05:23.342000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-05-22T15:05:28.865000+08:00 |
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來，卓院長，剛才你態度不好，我以第三者的觀點是這樣看的，這是我的看法。 |
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0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-05-22T15:05:29.986000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-05-22T15:05:31.927000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
我們看現在石部長在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-05-22T15:05:31.927000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-05-22T15:05:33.668000+08:00 |
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今天石部長沒有來。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-05-22T15:05:33.668000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-05-22T15:05:35.029000+08:00 |
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他也是參加會議啊！ |
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0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-05-22T15:05:35.029000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-05-22T15:05:40.232000+08:00 |
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對，他參加會議，參加WHA，不得其門而入。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:05:41.273000+08:00 |
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民進黨執政之後，兩岸關係急凍，對參加國際組織一籌莫展，除了第一年林奏延的時候，那時候是因為還沒交接，所以是馬英九執政的後期，因此林奏延可以用衛福部長身分去參加，但之後十年了，都沒有，都沒有啦，不管在裡面敲鑼打鼓搞半天……我就問院長…… |
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0.767 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-05-22T15:06:12.657000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:06:12.957000+08:00 |
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責任在我們嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-05-22T15:06:14.178000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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2026-05-22T15:06:16.299000+08:00 |
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不，來，你先不要急，請你尊重我，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-05-22T15:06:17.687000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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2026-05-22T15:06:18.047000+08:00 |
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你要大聲，我可以大聲喔，這樣不好。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-05-22T15:06:18.047000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-05-22T15:06:19.047000+08:00 |
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對，我說責任在我們嗎？ |
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0 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-05-22T15:06:19.047000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-05-22T15:06:20.047000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
請委員明示啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-05-22T15:06:18.087000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:06:18.428000+08:00 |
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好，報告院長，我沒有請你回答，請你不要講話，可以嗎？好。 |
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0.682 |
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賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-05-22T15:06:18.448000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:06:40.795000+08:00 |
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我就跟你講，現在對世衛組織、世衛大會，我們的態度到底怎麼樣？ |
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0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-05-22T15:06:40.795000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:06:58.318000+08:00 |
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因為美國剛好退出66個國際組織，第1個很重要就是WHO，跟WHO有關係的年度大會WHA，我們沒辦法參加，這個當然很遺憾啦，因為老共的打壓。 |
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0.817 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-05-22T15:06:58.318000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:07:01.081000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
當然，我們覺得No，不接受老共的打壓。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.812 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-05-22T15:07:01.081000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-05-22T15:07:07.245000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
這沒有問題，但是這個凸顯了一個東西，凸顯了什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-05-22T15:07:07.245000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-05-22T15:07:24.977000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
凸顯的是在蔡英文當總統的時候，林奏延第一次他是用Chinese Taipei參加世衛的大會，我們可以很清楚看得到什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.545 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-05-22T15:07:24.977000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-05-22T15:07:35.420000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
兩岸關係可以，國際關係就可以來拓展，我們的國際空間就可以來拓展，這個很清楚可以看得到。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.872 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-05-22T15:07:36.180000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-05-22T15:07:43.042000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
以現在來講，變成兩岸關係越來越糟，所以國際組織我們就沒辦法參加，院長，讓你說一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-05-22T15:07:45.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-05-22T15:07:48.724000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
兩岸關係不好，難道責任都全部在我們嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-05-22T15:07:50.341000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-05-22T15:07:58.885000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
對方軍機、軍艦經年累月在臺灣海峽周遭四處圍繞，這個您難道沒有一點感受嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-05-22T15:07:58.885000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-05-22T15:08:02.907000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
來，這個東西啊，銅板沒有兩個打不響啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-05-22T15:08:03.367000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-05-22T15:08:04.968000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
我們有去他那邊這樣子嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.545 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-05-22T15:08:04.968000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-05-22T15:08:10.830000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
他對我們不好，我們也對他不好，所以兩個就不好了，馬英九時候好來好去就不一樣！ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.706 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-05-22T15:08:10.830000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-05-22T15:08:17.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
來，這個都不是我要問的重點，我要問的重點在於剛才你提到的楊珍妮，請問楊珍妮現在在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-05-22T15:08:17.974000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-05-22T15:08:18.094000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
在江蘇。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-05-22T15:08:18.762000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-05-22T15:08:22.203000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
在江蘇、在大陸，他在那做什麼事？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-05-22T15:08:23.344000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-05-22T15:08:27.245000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
參加APEC的會前會，那請問院長，APEC什麼時候舉行？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.68 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-05-22T15:08:30.326000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-05-22T15:08:31.886000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
APEC正式大會什麼時候舉行？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-05-22T15:08:32.947000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-05-22T15:08:35.648000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
這就是部長級會議啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-05-22T15:08:35.968000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-05-22T15:08:42.310000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
對，它最後的最後是11月底要在深圳舉行，現在是部長級會議，楊珍妮是參加部長級的會議，對吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.816 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-05-22T15:08:50.192000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:08.063000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
好，我們這裡很大聲啊，老共那裡說你要參加APEC，要在一中原則跟APEC相關的諒解備忘錄的前提下才可以參加，你不是接受了，你去了，你不是接受了嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:09.769000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:23.582000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
今天的WHA也是這樣的一個原則，老實講WHA也是Chinese Taipei，現在APEC也是Chinese Taipei，為什麼APEC我們就可以去，但WHA我們去不了，為什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.671 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:23.582000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:25.664000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
你跟我說差在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:25.664000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:26.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
看他有沒有發邀請函來。什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:26.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:32.884000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
看他有沒有發邀請函來。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:32.884000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:34.404000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
WHA我們的名稱…… |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:34.404000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:34.624000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
有沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:35.145000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:35.845000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
當然沒有啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
林次長靜儀 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:35.845000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:36.845000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
重點是他們要發邀請函來啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:36.265000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:37.886000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
沒有的話你們要去爭取啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:38.226000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:38.826000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
APEC有啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:39.667000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:39.807000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
什麼東西？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:40.207000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:41.728000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
APEC有發邀請函來啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:41.728000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:44.569000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
他就寫一中原則喔，所以你接受？ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:44.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:46.110000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
他有發邀請函來，我們可以去…… |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:46.110000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:47.550000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
你們接受是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:47.711000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:48.271000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
請問院長，你接受嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:48.271000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:49.271000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
Chinese Taipei包括奧會模式，我們在現在國際現實底下…… |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:49.271000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:50.271000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
對，他是寫一中原則，中國大陸的外交部講了N次，在一中原則之下，你就接受了？ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-05-22T15:09:48.711000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-05-22T15:09:49.132000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
中國常常搞這種小動作，你也知道。是啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-05-22T15:10:05.234000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-05-22T15:10:13.257000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
因為他搞小動作，我們經常要做出一種非常抗議、嚴正的態度去參加各種國際會議，這就是臺灣今天的處境。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.977 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-05-22T15:10:14.297000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-05-22T15:10:23.580000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
對啦，臺灣的國際空間很辛苦，大家都知道，但是參加比什麼都重要，今天如果沒有參加，我們奧運也不能打，什麼地方都不能去，我們可以在…… |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
林次長靜儀 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-05-22T15:10:23.580000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-05-22T15:10:24.580000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
報告委員…… |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-05-22T15:10:23.740000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-05-22T15:10:25.760000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
你先不要講，我沒有叫你講。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-05-22T15:10:25.760000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-05-22T15:10:28.181000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
我們在抗議底下，我們去，這可以。 |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-05-22T15:10:29.361000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-05-22T15:10:42.769000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
這樣的態度是對的，我現在跟你強調的是這個，參加比什麼都重要，臺灣今天在醫療方面、在經貿方面的成就讓世界看得到，我們的努力讓世界看得到，這個沒有人反對…… |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-05-22T15:10:42.769000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-05-22T15:10:45.351000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
他有的會發邀請函，有的不發啊，他也沒有原則啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-05-22T15:10:50.462000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-05-22T15:10:54.104000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
他有發，我們也可以不要去啊，有氣魄點，你就不要去啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-05-22T15:10:56.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-05-22T15:10:58.166000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
他上面就寫一中原則啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-05-22T15:10:58.586000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-05-22T15:10:59.947000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
委員的建議，我們都聽到了。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
賴委員士葆：我說 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-05-22T15:11:01.328000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-05-22T15:11:01.648000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
有氣魄點，你就不要去啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
賴委員士葆：我說 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-05-22T15:11:02.288000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-05-22T15:11:08.211000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
對啊，他都講一中原則，跟APEC諒解備忘錄，你就不要接受，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
賴委員士葆：我說 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-05-22T15:11:08.211000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-05-22T15:11:09.171000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
你去了就是接受。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-05-22T15:11:09.411000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-05-22T15:11:12.673000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
我們不接受這種小動作，我們依照國際組織的規範，像奧會模式就是奧會模式，各種國際組織規範，我們都遵守。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-05-22T15:11:17.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-05-22T15:11:19.943000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
所以你樂見我們參加APEC？ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-05-22T15:11:20.464000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-05-22T15:11:26.010000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
我們在國際組織規範裡面去參加，對任何中方的小動作，我們都要嚴正的提出態度。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-05-22T15:11:27.311000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-05-22T15:11:43.154000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
院長，再講一個我禮拜二講的，亞洲開發銀行（ADB）我們是創始會員國，叫ROC，被改成Taipei, China，就中國臺北，我們還是去啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.763 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-05-22T15:11:44.134000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-05-22T15:11:45.655000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
錢照繳，你知道一年繳多少錢嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-05-22T15:11:45.655000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-05-22T15:11:48.276000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
會員費，你知道多少錢嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-05-22T15:11:49.936000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-05-22T15:11:55.239000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
100萬美金，我們一年繳100萬美金，名稱也被矮化。 |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0.765 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-05-22T15:11:55.239000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-05-22T15:11:57.155000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
那跟民進黨無關的嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-05-22T15:11:57.155000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-05-22T15:11:59.417000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
我們不舒服，但是要不要去？ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.545 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-05-22T15:12:00.197000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-05-22T15:12:00.798000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
還是要去啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-05-22T15:12:01.879000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-05-22T15:12:10.425000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
國際空間，我們是創始會員國之一，創始的，結果怎麼把我們這樣子呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-05-22T15:12:10.686000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-05-22T15:12:14.689000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
但是還是要去，有去才有聲音；沒有去沒有聲音。 |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-05-22T15:12:15.389000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-05-22T15:12:18.171000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
今天的APEC你派楊珍妮去，是對的。 |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.812 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-05-22T15:12:18.171000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-05-22T15:12:20.811000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
所以要給他加油。 |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-05-22T15:12:20.811000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-05-22T15:12:30.777000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
是對的，年底11月也要參加深圳的大會，參加比什麼都重要，我們的聲音人家才聽得見。 |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.912 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-05-22T15:12:30.777000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-05-22T15:12:39.442000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
同樣的，現在來講聲音了，我就問院長，川普總統說要打電話給賴總統，有打了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0.969 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-05-22T15:12:39.442000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-05-22T15:12:39.942000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
有收到沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-05-22T15:12:41.023000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-05-22T15:12:42.604000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
他不會打到行政院來，我不知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-05-22T15:12:42.944000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-05-22T15:12:43.385000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
所以你不知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-05-22T15:12:46.026000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-05-22T15:12:47.907000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
你出發前，他沒有打給賴總統吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-05-22T15:12:51.270000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-05-22T15:12:52.272000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
到現在還沒有任何的訊息。 |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
賴委員士葆：好，他們講了，海軍代理部長說 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-05-22T15:12:58.665000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-05-22T15:13:00.268000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
沒有了，沒有140億美金。 |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
賴委員士葆：好，他們講了，海軍代理部長說 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-05-22T15:13:00.548000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-05-22T15:13:00.569000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
確定嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-05-22T15:13:03.435000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-05-22T15:13:05.075000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
我們有注意到各種的發言……有！ |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-05-22T15:13:05.075000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-05-22T15:13:06.496000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
今天好大的新聞。 |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-05-22T15:13:06.496000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2026-05-22T15:13:22.019000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
在這個發言之後，還有多次其他不一樣內容的發言，也都是在支持繼續來執行140億的軍售，就在海軍代理部長之後的發言，還是有其他的發言，我們會持續觀察。 |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-05-22T15:13:22.199000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-05-22T15:13:35.315000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
所以回到我們這兩天，大家很多的看法，就是今天如果川普總統可以打電話給賴總統，這是外交的突破，外交，讚！ |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
0.911 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-05-22T15:13:36.276000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-05-22T15:13:40.438000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
要加分，但是又問說了什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-05-22T15:13:41.238000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-05-22T15:13:43.079000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
結果打來說「不好意思，我不賣武器給你了」，這就扣分。 |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
0.524 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-05-22T15:13:44.020000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-05-22T15:13:47.701000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
打電話是加分；說不賣武器給你，就是大扣分。 |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-05-22T15:13:48.802000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-05-22T15:13:56.324000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
現在看起來這兩個都沒有，就是他沒有打電話，然後也不賣了，這是最壞的結果。 |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-05-22T15:13:56.905000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-05-22T15:14:07.649000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
如果因為不賣了，所以打電話來說「不好意思」，這樣至少外交還加一點分，結果現在外交沒有加分，然後軍購也沒有，這對我們傷害很大！ |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
0.741 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-05-22T15:14:08.190000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-05-22T15:14:10.531000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
院長，對我們傷害很大，你要不要講一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-05-22T15:14:11.732000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-05-22T15:14:21.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
委員跟我都沒有辦法在這裡揣測川普總統，什麼時候會打什麼電話來談什麼事情，我們都無法揣測，所以也不必要在這裡公開說。 |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-05-22T15:14:21.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2026-05-22T15:14:24.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
好啦，所以到目前為止，沒有打電話嘛，你是這樣說嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
0.571 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-05-22T15:14:24.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2026-05-22T15:14:25.782000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
我沒有得到任何訊息。 |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
賴委員士葆：沒有嘛，到目前為止，美國的海軍代理部長說 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-05-22T15:14:32.287000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2026-05-22T15:14:34.789000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
140億美金的軍售，臺灣沒有了。 |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2026-05-22T15:14:35.676000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2026-05-22T15:14:43.299000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
我們有注意到這個發言，但是我們更注意到其後很多不同的發言，也在支持繼續執行這項軍售的發言，這也有。 |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
0.978 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2026-05-22T15:14:43.479000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2026-05-22T15:14:52.677000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
我們來看，衛福部次長在這裡，也要讓你表現一下，電子煙現在不合法，對吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
林次長靜儀 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2026-05-22T15:14:53.578000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:14:54.078000+08:00 |
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電子煙不合法。 |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:14:54.558000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:15:00.983000+08:00 |
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加熱菸合法，加熱菸那個頭，煙在上面……電子煙是沒有的。 |
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0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
林次長靜儀 |
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2026-05-22T15:15:01.923000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:15:02.904000+08:00 |
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電子煙是化學物品。 |
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0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:15:06.767000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:15:19.391000+08:00 |
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院長，你看到會怕，毒駕肇事2024年比2023年成長了731%，造成15人死亡、90人受傷；2025年年增率227%，16人死亡、兩百多人受傷，很嚴重。 |
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0.558 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:15:31.345000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:15:44.735000+08:00 |
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去年毒駕事件八千五百多件，今年1月份一千兩百多件，2月份將近900件，3月份1,100件，所以今年絕對破萬。 |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:15:44.735000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:15:51.501000+08:00 |
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面臨這樣的事情，有一個很重要的部分，我就很具體的聚焦在一個地方，這個地方是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:15:52.977000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:15:56.719000+08:00 |
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有些人駕駛的時候，旁邊放一個電子煙，不合法哦！ |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:15:57.740000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:16:09.506000+08:00 |
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你看它不起眼，然後他吸一下、吸一下，很像吸鴉片一樣，吸一下精神很好繼續開車，警察在交通檢查的時候就沒有去管他。 |
| transcript.gazette[128].quality |
0.755 |
| transcript.gazette[129].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:16:09.646000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:16:24.841000+08:00 |
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我問一個問題，衛福部要不要跟我們一起努力，我們立法院願意支持，如果警方看到電子煙的載具可以沒入嗎？沒收！ |
| transcript.gazette[129].quality |
0.66 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
林次長靜儀 |
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2026-05-22T15:16:25.101000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:16:27.282000+08:00 |
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電子煙的載具本來就是非法的，本來就違法。 |
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0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:16:29.302000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:16:32.683000+08:00 |
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我告訴院長，這個次長不知道…… |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
林次長靜儀 |
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2026-05-22T15:16:32.823000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:16:34.624000+08:00 |
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地方衛生局本來就可以查處。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[133].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:16:35.624000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:16:49.880000+08:00 |
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這個是員警跟我陳情，說現在沒有法，他們在執勤測酒駕的時候，看到旁邊的電子煙載具，他不能沒入，因為沒有法可以沒入。 |
| transcript.gazette[133].quality |
0.84 |
| transcript.gazette[134].speaker |
林次長靜儀 |
| transcript.gazette[134].start |
2026-05-22T15:16:50.810000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[134].end |
2026-05-22T15:16:52.451000+08:00 |
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我們有規劃要修菸害防制法。 |
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0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[135].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[135].start |
2026-05-22T15:16:53.231000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:16:56.992000+08:00 |
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我們把它沒入可以嗎？ |
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0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[136].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:16:56.992000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-05-22T15:16:57.992000+08:00 |
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院長，可以吧？ |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[137].speaker |
林次長靜儀 |
| transcript.gazette[137].start |
2026-05-22T15:16:56.992000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[137].end |
2026-05-22T15:16:59.133000+08:00 |
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我們現在正在規劃加強菸害防制法。 |
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0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[138].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[138].start |
2026-05-22T15:17:00.053000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:17:06.896000+08:00 |
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菸害防制法，我要來修、要沒入，只要一發現就沒入，這個影響很大。 |
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0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[139].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[139].start |
2026-05-22T15:17:10.797000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].guessed |
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2026-05-22T15:17:14.698000+08:00 |
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院長對於大麻的看法，要不要再重申一遍？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[140].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[140].start |
2026-05-22T15:17:15.559000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].guessed |
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2026-05-22T15:17:18.180000+08:00 |
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你是不是反對臺灣大麻合法化？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[141].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[141].start |
2026-05-22T15:17:19.732000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:17:20.493000+08:00 |
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大麻合法化？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[142].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[142].start |
2026-05-22T15:17:20.493000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-05-22T15:17:21.653000+08:00 |
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大麻、大麻。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[143].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[143].start |
2026-05-22T15:17:21.653000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:17:32.060000+08:00 |
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臺灣要討論這個，我認為要得到社會很大的共識，目前討論的空間，我個人認為還並不存在大麻合法化的問題。 |
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0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[144].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:17:32.380000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:17:47.522000+08:00 |
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我做功課了，卓榮泰強烈地表達反對大麻合法化，你講這句話，我是肯定你的，因為貴黨很多人在推動大麻合法化…… |
| transcript.gazette[144].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[145].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[145].start |
2026-05-22T15:17:47.703000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:17:50.745000+08:00 |
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我覺得社會的共識還沒有達到那樣子，而且也不需要。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[146].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:17:50.985000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:18:02.215000+08:00 |
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很多綠營民進黨人士在推大麻合法化，我們強烈反對，你的話我再repeat一遍，這個值得肯定，我們希望你繼續堅持！ |
| transcript.gazette[146].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[147].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[147].start |
2026-05-22T15:18:03.476000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[147].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[147].end |
2026-05-22T15:18:08.700000+08:00 |
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我們來看搶救少子化，你知道我們一年預算編多少在少子化嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[147].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[148].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[148].start |
2026-05-22T15:18:09.721000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[148].end |
2026-05-22T15:18:11.282000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[148].text |
一年編多少預算？ |
| transcript.gazette[148].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[149].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[149].start |
2026-05-22T15:18:12.122000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[149].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[149].end |
2026-05-22T15:18:14.223000+08:00 |
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目前來看是一千多億。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[150].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[150].start |
2026-05-22T15:18:14.223000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[150].guessed |
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2026-05-22T15:18:16.303000+08:00 |
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一千兩百多億。對。 |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[151].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:18:16.303000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:18:20.305000+08:00 |
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結果去年出生人口多少你知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[151].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[152].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[152].start |
2026-05-22T15:18:20.305000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[152].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[152].end |
2026-05-22T15:18:21.005000+08:00 |
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十萬七千多。 |
| transcript.gazette[152].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[153].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[153].start |
2026-05-22T15:18:21.345000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:18:22.485000+08:00 |
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十萬多啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[153].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[154].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[154].start |
2026-05-22T15:18:23.786000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[154].guessed |
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2026-05-22T15:18:34.490000+08:00 |
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錢花一千兩百多億，結果10萬，還不到死亡人數的一半，很可憐，看起來臺灣變成快要亡國的樣子。 |
| transcript.gazette[154].quality |
0.842 |
| transcript.gazette[155].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[155].start |
2026-05-22T15:18:35.881000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[155].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[155].end |
2026-05-22T15:18:37.822000+08:00 |
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所以我們必須要有一個新的對策。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[156].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[156].start |
2026-05-22T15:18:39.003000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[156].guessed |
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2026-05-22T15:18:47.267000+08:00 |
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你加5,000元那個方向沒有人反對，大方向我們努力…… |
| transcript.gazette[156].quality |
0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[157].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[157].start |
2026-05-22T15:18:47.267000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[157].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[157].end |
2026-05-22T15:18:48.267000+08:00 |
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那只是一部分而已。 |
| transcript.gazette[157].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[158].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[158].start |
2026-05-22T15:18:47.507000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[158].guessed |
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2026-05-22T15:18:57.973000+08:00 |
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但是有幾個要考慮，第一個，每一年要2,000億，你要不要講一下錢怎麼來？ |
| transcript.gazette[158].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[159].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[159].start |
2026-05-22T15:18:58.133000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[159].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[159].end |
2026-05-22T15:18:59.133000+08:00 |
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2,000億的錢怎麼來？ |
| transcript.gazette[159].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[160].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[160].start |
2026-05-22T15:18:59.133000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[160].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[160].end |
2026-05-22T15:19:01.315000+08:00 |
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你明年開始實施，你告訴我2,000億怎麼來。 |
| transcript.gazette[160].quality |
0.688 |
| transcript.gazette[161].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[161].start |
2026-05-22T15:19:03.200000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[161].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[161].end |
2026-05-22T15:19:08.324000+08:00 |
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我們在考慮政策、對策的時候，當然有考慮到國家財政的結構跟能力。 |
| transcript.gazette[161].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[162].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[162].start |
2026-05-22T15:19:09.624000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[162].guessed |
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2026-05-22T15:19:18.290000+08:00 |
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沒有問題，你要回答很簡單啊，我們證交稅增加了5,000億，就有了，2,000億在那裡啊，你說就在那裡，2,000億有啊，怎麼會沒有錢？ |
| transcript.gazette[162].quality |
0.638 |
| transcript.gazette[163].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[163].start |
2026-05-22T15:19:18.290000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[163].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[163].end |
2026-05-22T15:19:33.723000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[163].text |
但是對於一些比較辛苦的弱勢家庭，其實這一部分都不夠養，所以我提一個很大膽的，老實講這些都不如說生一胎給100萬啦，這更好啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[163].quality |
0.852 |
| transcript.gazette[164].speaker |
賴委員士葆 |
| transcript.gazette[164].start |
2026-05-22T15:19:34.785000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[164].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[164].end |
2026-05-22T15:19:35.306000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[164].text |
認真思考啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[164].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[165].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[165].start |
2026-05-22T15:19:35.686000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:19:36.748000+08:00 |
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那更要考慮財政問題。 |
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1 |
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賴委員士葆 |
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2026-05-22T15:19:36.748000+08:00 |
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2026-05-22T15:19:39.032000+08:00 |
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我算過，沒有多少錢，比你這個少。 |
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0.615 |
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主席 |
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2026-05-22T15:19:39.532000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-05-22T15:19:46.674857+08:00 |
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謝謝賴士葆委員質詢，謝謝卓院長及相關部會首長備詢，謝謝。 |
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0 |
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主席 |
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2026-05-22T15:19:46.974857+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-05-22T15:19:50.689143+08:00 |
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接下來，我們請王世堅委員質詢。 |
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