| IVOD_ID |
169552 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169552 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-21T11:46:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-21T11:54:52+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:21 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/14c66ee36e76b85cd300824c52ee7f199d2d05c89e696614f929c1ba330123fb47742d001cea1c075ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李柏毅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:46:31 - 11:54:52 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院部分。【僅詢答；相關預算提案於115年5月29日(五)中午12時前截止收件。】） |
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謝謝,請秘書長,辛苦了齁請秘書長,辛苦了齁非常尊重委員會,謝謝好委員,早直接進入正題啦,行政跟立法,誰該編列預算?這個按照憲法的精神跟規定是行政院所以剛剛國民黨的委員說,他們提出來的預算規模比行政院的預算規模還要小,這是什麼回事?誰是本末倒置? |
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過去一年多兩年多都是這個樣子所以辛苦的行政院啦好那我們直接進來這個0到18歲其實賴總統在從蔡英文總統0到6歲國家養到賴總統在競選的時候提出這個私立大學學費減半 |
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到這一次的0到18歲,我們要提出的這個,昨天提出的這個每個人發放5000元,包含6到18歲會有一個2500元的未來帳戶,這一個政策在這邊表示高度的認同 |
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那其實這一個就是從整個民進黨執政從0到6歲到私立大學到6到18歲怎麼樣可以讓國人怎麼樣可以讓學童有更好的未來我們在這邊先表示支持那為什麼行政院敢提出來這一個政策,它會耗費到多少警匪秘書長? |
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陳羅昨天總統所講的大概會增加兩千億左右好,兩千億其實我是看好台灣,台灣沒有壞消息台灣的壞消息只有來自立法院那這兩千億怎麼來,從去年底的台灣的經濟成長率我們看到我嚇一跳,八點多 |
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今年第一季經濟成長率13點多嚇死人台灣面臨黃金的兩年到五年的期間所以真的政府可以好好的來規劃一下 |
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我們的青年或青少年或兒童的未來那所以秘書長你在5月9號來到高雄其實我非常感謝在去年財化法之後其實呢在左院長還沒上台之前在陳建仁院長的時候我就去跟他爭取了一筆9億的這個 |
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國家重點領域校際研究園區的經費之後呢那其實四年匡列了一百三十幾億行政院因為財化法的關係沒有辦法繼續支持高雄那民主黨我請問你現在這個進度是不是已經嵌合下來了 |
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跟委員報告5月9號我去了一趟高雄那跟委員一起去包括委員這個還有市長一起去看了清大陽明交大跟清大在高雄的分校跟教研園區 |
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去一次就知道為什麼委員這麼積極爭取跟拚命爭取132億的計畫行政院已經核定補助100億已經核定了 確定核定了確定核定感謝 非常感謝行政院高雄從過去陳其邁還沒回來當市長之前他那一個中油的煉油廠區他本來在韓國瑜市長的時候韓國瑜前市長的時候他本來要變賽馬廠 |
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陳其邁市長回來之後呢 他擔任過行政院副院長然後他知道怎麼把中油這個場區 怎麼加速土壤整治竟然把台積電移到這個場區來台積電移來之後呢 高雄這些產業供應鏈最需要什麼 最需要人才那所以高雄的舊左營國中 跟高雄的聯彈會館過去一個大學退場之後 |
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把他把陽明交大找來先在聯團會館這邊再把清華大學找來在舊走雲國中這邊在清華大學的這個接牌的那一刻其實我看到場下非常非常多這些半導體供應鏈的雇主們都來到現場他們不是只有來支持清華他們不是只有來支持陽明交大他們也不是只有來支持 |
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行政院這個方案其實他們來找人才所以民進黨政府從0到18歲到市立大學到我現在在爭取左營的這個校際研究園區清華大學跟陽明教大讓所有不是念理工科的人他未來大學畢業之後有機會修得這些半導體的學分之後有機會進到TSMC或他相關的產業鏈 |
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供應鏈這個是現在高雄最急需的那所以在這邊感謝行政院剛剛秘書長有提出已經核准100億的清華大學跟陽明交大的這個消極研究園區的經費之外我在這邊也要跟秘書長這邊再加強一下其實高雄這次財化法之後高雄損失慘重我舉一個例子給你聽 |
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我非常關心學童的營養午餐在0到18歲要國家養國家要支持0到18歲之後主席對不起我對不起齁那許委員我再1分鐘台北市多了400多億他先提出來喔我還有2分鐘好謝謝我非常遵守實踐規範的齁台北市多了400多億他提出來兒童營養午餐免費佔他400多億的百分之不到5% |
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多的錢啊不知道做什麼來支持營養午餐變成全國的縣市都必須要用縣市的經費來支持營養午餐好那接下來中央原本農業部有一些張Q的補助就沒了 |
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高雄要多付張Q4.5億之外呢高雄要付營養午餐18億佔高雄這個財化法之後所得中央統籌分配稅款的7%非常非常的慘重啊那我再講一個台北市它平均每餐是70到85塊高雄只有45到57塊那 |
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我要跟秘書長討論的是,這個經費其實如果在才化法沒有這樣子分之前,其實也可以納到0到18歲讓全國的營養午餐可以均等,其實現在是不均等的我這邊非常憂心,秘書長你怎麼看? |
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確實目前所施行的財化法有諸多的問題比方說市權分配不均勻比方說城鄉差距在擴大所以我剛剛在一開始的專案報告上面我就有提到我也希望朝野政黨能夠來趕快的審議財政議法也就是行政院版的財政收支劃分法我也曾經對外講過 |
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這個行政院版的裁劃法,其實對直轄市也好,非直轄市也好,都是非常公平的為什麼?因為直轄市平均會增加15%的預算,非直轄市可能會增加25%到27%的預算可惜啦,我們在這裡就看不到行政院的裁劃法,都被在野黨很粗暴的否認掉那我在這邊還是要講一下,高雄的捷運直線、高雄捷運黃線、高雄的小港林園延伸線高雄的岡山路竹延伸線,都有可能因為這個裁劃法 |
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時間會慢可能會慢5到10年這個我必須講非常遺憾另外禮拜一在這裡審查內政部的預算的時候我發現國土署對於這個下水道工程的預算也都交給地方政府了高雄市損失超過30億的預算所以種種種種對於這個財化法希望行政院可以堅持跟這個我們的 |
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486.414 |
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496.368 |
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國防條例一樣,再提出新的版本,我們再來審慎的來研議如果不支持行政院財化法的人,其實就是相對不支持高雄地方建設預算,謝謝好,謝謝委員 |
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李委員柏毅 |
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2026-05-21T11:46:34.317000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:46:35.177000+08:00 |
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謝謝，請秘書長，辛苦了。 |
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主席 |
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2026-05-21T11:46:38.198000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:46:38.778000+08:00 |
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秘書長。 |
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1 |
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張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:46:38.778000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-05-21T11:46:42.279000+08:00 |
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主席沒叫我的話不能上台。 |
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0 |
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李委員柏毅 |
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2026-05-21T11:46:42.279000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:46:44.519000+08:00 |
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非常尊重委員會，謝謝。 |
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1 |
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張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:46:44.659000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:46:45.159000+08:00 |
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委員早。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-05-21T11:46:45.499000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:46:50.240000+08:00 |
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直接進入正題，行政跟立法誰該編列預算？ |
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1 |
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張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:46:52.360000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:46:54.541000+08:00 |
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按照憲法的精神跟規定是行政院。 |
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1 |
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李委員柏毅 |
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2026-05-21T11:46:54.861000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:47:01.542000+08:00 |
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所以剛剛國民黨的委員說，他們提出來的預算規模比行政院的預算規模還要小，這是怎麼回事，誰是本末倒置？ |
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0.978 |
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張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:47:02.440000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:47:04.422000+08:00 |
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過去兩年多都是這個樣子。 |
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1 |
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李委員柏毅 |
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2026-05-21T11:47:04.843000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:47:05.864000+08:00 |
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所以辛苦了行政院！ |
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0.875 |
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李委員柏毅 |
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2026-05-21T11:47:06.644000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:47:32.536000+08:00 |
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我們直接進來討論0到18歲，從蔡英文總統0到6歲國家養；到賴總統在競選的時候提出私立大學學費減半；到這一次的0到18歲，昨天提出了每個人發放5,000元，包含6到18歲會有一個2,500元的未來帳戶。 |
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0.933 |
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李委員柏毅 |
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2026-05-21T11:47:32.536000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:47:52.428000+08:00 |
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這一個政策我在這邊表示高度認同，民進黨執政從0到6歲、到私立大學、到6到18歲，關於怎麼樣可以讓國人、怎麼樣可以讓學童有更好的未來，這方面我們在這邊先表示支持。 |
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0.912 |
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李委員柏毅 |
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2026-05-21T11:47:53.068000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-05-21T11:47:56.230000+08:00 |
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為什麼行政院敢提出這一個政策？ |
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1 |
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李委員柏毅 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-05-21T11:47:57.051000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-05-21T11:47:58.192000+08:00 |
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這會耗費掉多少經費，秘書長？ |
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0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:47:59.748000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:48:02.911000+08:00 |
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誠如昨天總統所講的，大概會增加2,000億左右。 |
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0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-05-21T11:48:04.472000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:48:12.619000+08:00 |
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2,000億，其實我是看好臺灣，臺灣沒有壞消息，臺灣的壞消息只有來自立法院，這2,000億怎麼來？ |
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0.944 |
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李委員柏毅 |
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2026-05-21T11:48:12.619000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:48:22.966000+08:00 |
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我看到去年的臺灣經濟成長率嚇一跳，八點多，然後今年第一季經濟成長率十三點多，嚇死人！ |
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0.816 |
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李委員柏毅 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-05-21T11:48:23.146000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:48:37.677000+08:00 |
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臺灣面臨黃金的2年到5年期間，所以政府真的可以好好的規劃一下我們青年、青少年或兒童的未來。 |
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0.95 |
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李委員柏毅 |
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2026-05-21T11:48:38.437000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:49:05.091000+08:00 |
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秘書長，你在5月9號來到高雄，其實我非常感謝，在去年財劃法之後……其實在卓院長還沒上臺之前，在陳建仁院長的時候，我就去跟他爭取了一筆9億的國家重點領域校際研教園區經費，4年匡列了一百三十幾億，行政院因為財劃法的關係沒有辦法繼續支持高雄。 |
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0.962 |
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李委員柏毅 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-05-21T11:49:06.851000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:49:09.612000+08:00 |
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秘書長，我請問你，現在這個進度是不是已經簽核下來了？ |
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0.783 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-05-21T11:49:11.014000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:49:35.047000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，5月9號我去了一趟高雄，跟委員還有市長一起去看了陽明交大與清大在高雄的分校跟教研園區，去一次就知道為什麼委員這麼積極爭取跟拚命爭取，132億的計畫行政院已經核定補助100億。 |
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0.988 |
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李委員柏毅 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-05-21T11:49:35.047000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:49:36.187000+08:00 |
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已經核定了、確定核定了？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-05-21T11:49:36.487000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:49:36.767000+08:00 |
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確定核定。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-05-21T11:49:37.747000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:49:38.648000+08:00 |
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非常感謝行政院！ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-05-21T11:49:39.408000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:50:09.807000+08:00 |
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高雄在過去陳其邁還沒回來當市長之前，中油的煉油廠區在韓國瑜前市長的時候本來要變成賽馬場，當陳其邁市長回來之後，他擔任過行政院副院長，他知道怎麼把中油這個廠區加速土污整治，竟然把台積電移到這個廠區來，台積電移來之後，高雄這些產業供應鏈最需要什麼？ |
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0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-05-21T11:50:09.807000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-05-21T11:50:10.387000+08:00 |
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最需要人才。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-05-21T11:50:11.468000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:50:51.165000+08:00 |
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所以高雄的舊左營國中跟高雄的蓮潭會館在過去一個大學退場之後，先把陽明交大找來在蓮潭會館這邊，再把清華大學找來在舊左營國中這邊，在清華大學揭牌的那一刻，其實我看到場下非常、非常多半導體供應鏈的雇主們都來到現場，他們不是只有來支持清華、他們不是只有來支持陽明交大、他們也不是只有來支持行政院這一個方案，其實他們來找人才！ |
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0.932 |
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李委員柏毅 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-05-21T11:50:52.606000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:51:28.061000+08:00 |
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而民進黨政府從0到18歲、到私立大學、到我現在爭取的左營校際研教園區，清華大學跟陽明交大讓所有不是唸理工科的人，未來在大學畢業之後有機會修得這些半導體的學分，然後有機會進到TSMC或相關的產業鏈、供應鏈，這個是現在高雄最急需的，因此在這邊感謝行政院，剛剛秘書長有提出已經核准100億清華大學跟陽明交大校際研教園區的經費。 |
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0.91 |
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李委員柏毅 |
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2026-05-21T11:51:28.061000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:51:53.426000+08:00 |
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除此之外，我在這邊也要跟秘書長再加強一下，其實這一次財劃法之後高雄損失慘重，我舉一個例子給你聽，我非常關心學童的營養午餐，在0到18歲要國家養、國家要支持0到18歲之後……主席，對不起，徐委員，我再1分鐘。 |
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0.94 |
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李委員柏毅 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-05-21T11:51:53.426000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:51:57.510000+08:00 |
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臺北市多了四百多億，他先提出來…… |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-05-21T11:51:57.510000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-05-21T11:51:58.510000+08:00 |
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你還有2分鐘。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-05-21T11:51:57.790000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:52:02.353000+08:00 |
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我還有2分鐘，謝謝，我非常遵守時間規範。 |
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0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-05-21T11:52:02.673000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:52:46.490000+08:00 |
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臺北市多了四百多億，他提出來兒童營養午餐免費，占了他四百多億的不到5%，多的錢不知道做什麼而來支持營養午餐，變成全國縣市都必須要用縣市的經費來支持營養午餐；接下來，原本中央、農業部有一些章Q的補助就沒了，高雄要多付章Q的4.5億之外，高雄要付營養午餐18億，占高雄財劃法之後中央統籌分配稅款的7%，非常、非常慘重！ |
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0.899 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-05-21T11:52:47.310000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:52:52.875000+08:00 |
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我再講一個，臺北市平均每餐是70到85塊，高雄只有45到57塊。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-05-21T11:52:55.617000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:53:11.945000+08:00 |
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我要跟秘書長討論的是，這部分的經費在財劃法沒有這樣子分之前其實也可以納入0到18歲，讓全國的營養午餐可以均等，其實現在是不均等的，我實在非常憂心！ |
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0.877 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-05-21T11:53:12.205000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:53:12.986000+08:00 |
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秘書長，您怎麼看？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-05-21T11:53:15.448000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:53:36.917000+08:00 |
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確實目前所施行的財劃法有諸多的問題，比方說事權分配不均勻、比方說城鄉差距再擴大，所以我剛剛在一開始的專案報告上面就有提到，我也希望朝野政黨能夠趕快審議「財政一法」，也就是行政院版的財政收支劃分法…… |
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0.956 |
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李委員柏毅 |
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2026-05-21T11:53:36.917000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:53:37.917000+08:00 |
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對，禮拜一審查…… |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:53:37.277000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:53:48.360000+08:00 |
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我也曾經對外講過，行政院版的財劃法其實對直轄市、非直轄市都是非常公平的，為什麼？ |
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0.972 |
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張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:53:48.360000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:53:53.561000+08:00 |
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因為直轄市平均會增加15%的預算，非直轄市可能會增加25%到27%的預算。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-05-21T11:53:53.841000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:53:59.743000+08:00 |
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可惜啦，我們在這裡就看不到行政院的財劃法，都被在野黨很粗暴的否認掉。 |
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0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
李委員柏毅 |
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2026-05-21T11:54:00.443000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:54:28.591000+08:00 |
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我在這邊還是要講一下高雄的捷運紫線、高雄的捷運黃線、高雄的小港林園延伸線、高雄的岡山路竹延伸線都有可能因為這個財劃法而時間會慢，可能會慢5到10年，這個我必須講非常遺憾；另外，禮拜一在這裡審查內政部預算的時候，我發現國土署對於下水道工程的預算也都交給地方政府了，高雄市損失超過30億的預算。 |
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0.969 |
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李委員柏毅 |
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2026-05-21T11:54:29.231000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:54:47.328000+08:00 |
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針對以上種種，希望行政院可以堅持財劃法，跟國防條例一樣再提出新的版本，我們再來審慎研議，如果不支持行政院財劃法的人，其實就是相對不支持高雄地方建設預算，謝謝。 |
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0.903 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
張秘書長惇涵 |
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2026-05-21T11:54:47.328000+08:00 |
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2026-05-21T11:54:47.368000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝委員。 |
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1 |
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主席 |
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2026-05-21T11:54:47.868000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-05-21T11:54:52.153714+08:00 |
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謝謝，下一位請徐欣瑩委員發言質詢。 |
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0 |