| IVOD_ID |
169551 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169551 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-21T11:35:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-21T11:46:12+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:48 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/14c66ee36e76b85cefa64c00dff256ad9d2d05c89e696614f929c1ba330123fb47742d001cea1c075ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:35:24 - 11:46:12 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院部分。【僅詢答；相關預算提案於115年5月29日(五)中午12時前截止收件。】） |
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好主席謝謝麻煩請張秘書長委員長張秘書長請教美國總統川普講說台灣偷走台積電台灣偷走晶片台灣偷走半導體技術我們政府能夠認同嗎 |
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我想台積電的晶片跟技術大家都知道當初是美國RCA寄轉來的但是這30年來是透過台積電所有的員工努力之下把製程改良成為世界第一我們沒有偷嘛我想台灣的晶片是可以貢獻全世界 |
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院長問A答A好不好我們有沒有偷台灣沒有偷手世界上的智慧那有沒有看到曹新城這位被我們賴政府奉為上賓上司去年大惡霸的時候在那邊這個獻祭獻測 |
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曹新城的臉書有沒有看到我沒有注意到他講新聞都已經報導了川普控台灣偷晶片曹新城開火政府嚴重失職他特別點名行政院應該要召開國際記者會以證國際視聽 |
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很難得我跟朝鮮董事長在一個議題上面是一致的因為我也認為從過去到現在我也講如果說行政院秘書長也講了台灣沒有偷美國政府川普講了好幾次那我們的政府在幹嘛我們政府在幹嘛是怎樣 看到美國政府的矮半截因為川普所以我們都不敢講朝鮮現在講了行政院應該召開國際記者會以正視聽 你怎麼看 |
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我想台灣是良善的力量台灣也跟美國在合作AI這個高科技的經驗所以川普的這個話也不敢碰到川普就要矮半截這證實國人的講法嘛所以曹新城現在講是說行政院不敢開一堆記者會是實質私人你看你要故意在那邊拉A扯B只有這一套我說什麼曹新城講的實質私人是是不是事實 |
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不是事實啊好 你跟曹先生講啊但重點在於是本席過去到現在都講一樣的態度但是就只有行政院的態度反覆你看敢對在野黨大小聲敢對中國大陸大小聲但是對於美國一句話都不敢放我剛才講了台灣並不是偷走全球的晶片台灣是凍結全球晶片沒關係 大家看到了來 再來Miu長行政院喔 |
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律書長的角色非常的重要因為他是一個幕僚角色他是綜合行政院的幕僚單位但你知道行政院院長已經違法超過100天了嗎有人是不是要講NCC或是什麼的案子你知道行政院院長已經違法超過100天了嗎您是不是要提NCC提名的案子 |
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NCC委員行政院院長應該依法要三個月內要補提名以及在7月31號報期之前前三個月要提名所以最晚期4月31號要提名到目前為止有送進來嗎目前還在遵循遵循當中是 所以已經違法了嘛 |
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跟委員報告上一次行政院提名全部都被封殺了中間還有一個立法院沒有一定要背書的義務請容許立法院確實沒有背書的義務就是對有先督的職權但是 |
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行政院到底要提什麼人選我們在思考有在徵詢合適的人嗎所以說現在在我們廖長輝不是沒有做好我們的一大堆的題目嗎有溝通過嗎 |
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比如講,ACC是獨立的機關,所以你看,從以前到現在,你看,現在違法的人還好意思這樣大小聲,我覺得這就是大悲哀,這就是大悲哀,中選會主委沒有通過嗎?所以我們在講是說,只要提出好的人選,我們不會不通過,所以你說陳明修教授不好能選就對了,是不是?查找是不是一個案例? |
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你說陳明修教授不是好人選問A又答B所以來 我想請教一下民運院長 我想請教一下NCC的名單4月3號以前就已經到期了那過去我們整理了幾次你一直在講說還在徵詢嘛整理了幾次名單給行政院院長目前在徵詢當中確實不容易整理幾次名單 |
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這個我不能夠具體回答你其實真的很多人選但人家也不一定願意嘛所以沒辦法也沒有辦法回答所以說其實就是行政院從上到下明明法條在那邊那麼白紙黑字寫得清楚如果說你不懂法條回去看一下NCC組織法第四條行政院院長應要提出名單欸 趙偉 |
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這個秘書長來齁還反質詢啦然後問A答B啊我覺得所有的官員可以看到我們現在都很行政院我其實相對是尊重啊因為每一位其實文官能夠爬到行政院這個位置都很難得我剛剛特別看了一下我們的這個有處長有主委有這個相關人士啊但 |
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本席很由衷的講一句話中華民國的文官體制在過去這十年尤其這兩年被民進黨政府操弄的真的是我為我們的文官體制叫去如果說我們的法規白紙黑字寫得清清楚楚行政院院長的職權就是在三個月前要應提出名單給立法院審查不管什麼理由沒有提出就是違法 |
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結果我們現在所有的這些處長主委坐在台下看著一個領導你們的人在台上這樣子瞎扯胡扯然後完全臉皮可能比什麼銅牆鐵壁還要厚我覺得這會對我們的文官體制改到不捨 |
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拜託我們的官員有一點點大家心平氣和就是心平氣和所以我現在沒有問問題這秘書長還要搶回答我們就是心平氣和所以我才會講是說所有的官員大家看一下過去這兩年被民進黨政府消磨殆盡侮辱斯文大家高考及格的這樣的一個過去的一個經驗 |
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完全沒有辦法用上這個就是我們現在民進黨政府執政時下中華民國的悲哀來最後我只想請教一下民進黨 |
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昨天總統有提出來因為520嘛他有提出來一個政策就是0到18歲每人每個月5000的成長津貼那想請教之前有沒有跟我們行政部門相關單位來討論過行政部門有跟總統報告過相關的方案什麼時候蠻多次的蠻多次的如果說蠻多次的那就再照理講這就是一個政策溝通的研擬過程 |
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那我很遺憾跟訝異的是在國民黨團也有提出類似主張當然年齡有所不同國民黨團這邊提出0到15歲每人每月五千結果總統昨天提出0到18歲每人每月五千多三年但是政策上是高度重疊財源的部分運用的這個預算的規模 |
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賴清德總統提出來更多可是過去不管是我們的衛福部不管是我們的相關部會講說這會普惠市的大撒幣排擠現有社福資源表達對政策憂心人人有講的普惠市政策吹罰通盤的財政規劃立法不能只談理想不談代價嚴重影響排擠其他的社會福利弱勢照顧跟醫療發展既有的預算那我想請教啊現在是怎樣政府的 |
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錯字是不是還是邏輯錯誤在野黨講的0到15歲就說會普發式會排擠現有的社福然後結果總統講一個0到18歲還多3歲多3年預算再多了可能幾百億結果就是是我們行政部門跟總統溝通過很多次 |
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阿是怎樣你可能講錯了好警察壞警察黑白臉所以現在在野黨提出的任何政策就是錯的然後行政部門提出的即便是行政部門提的政策可能預算用的還比在野黨提的多 |
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我零到十五歲如果沒有記錯的話應該是貴黨黨團這個禮拜或是前幾天提出的之前都有提過但是衛福部是就零到十二歲這個所以本來是成長津貼或是存起來來處理都有其實等一下昨天賴清德政府講的沒有成長津貼嗎 |
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我們講的是6到18歲沒有存入嗎也有6到18歲啊那就對啦所以你的範圍更大 範圍更廣預算用更多但是結果沒想到行政部門對待同樣的政策立法方向一致的立法精神可以討論我現在都還沒有進入到立法精神喔如果說要討論這個政策的話大家可以討論喔因為這很長篇幅可以討論包括說怎麼樣實施怎麼樣來做一個實際的執行但我現在只想講一個最基本的問題 |
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如果依照秘書長剛剛的講法行政部門跟賴清德總統溝通過很多次他了解的話就不會出現這種會錯字混淆的狀況所以你真的很難說服國人相信現在民進黨這麼主政之下不是政治掛帥而是是政治掛帥而不是真的想要照顧國人當然是真的想要照顧國人啊不然你們反對我們的方案嗎你支持還是反對秘書長 |
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本席從過去到現在我們是第一個提出來的人感謝行政院拿槍更敗我們在野黨提出來的方案就事論事之後我們會再好好討論零到六歲國家安全養殖民進黨執行的零到十八歲是延長擴大這個方案請不要本末倒置 謝謝從來沒有本末倒置民主黨不用在這邊混淆視聽 謝謝 |