| IVOD_ID |
169544 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169544 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-21T11:19:04+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-21T11:31:53+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/14c66ee36e76b85c94be2fb64b466967ca1860e2f1c42d1af929c1ba330123fbde89be31bb10dba25ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝衣鳯 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:19:04 - 11:31:53 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長率台灣糖業股份有限公司董事長、農業部部長、行政院災害防救辦公室首長、行政院公共工程委員會首長、內政部首長率國土管理署首長、交通部首長、原住民族委員會首長、財政部國有財產署首長、國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會首長及衛生福利部首長就「全台各縣市汛期防洪防災工程準備情形及花蓮馬太鞍溪堰塞湖災後復原重建工作」執行進度及預算運用進行報告，並備質詢。
【5月20日及5月21日二天一次會】） |
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谢谢主席我想要先请我们经济部和市长跟水利署署长有请经济部跟水利署 |
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我想要請教一下就是說現在水地署有31條就是他們說未施工的有31條的那個緊急的這個需要施工的裡面有26條在施工當中5條沒有上未施工那那個部分就是破題施工的部分 |
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那請問一下就是那五條現在情況是怎麼樣 有沒有左水溪我們現在因為這個破體施工在訓期前都會做處理那我們都加強這個去檢視 目前這破體施工都全部都掌握住 沒有問題那左水溪呢左水溪有嗎 左水溪目前沒有 |
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沒有是不是對31條裡面目前沒有做那未來我們在推動AI辨識影像辨識那如果在停電的時候影像辨識會不會發生作用以及就是我們在就是說除了影像辨識以外怎麼樣子跟讓中央跟地方有合作的社區房災能量呢 |
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那個我們影像辨識當然這個他如果在因為我們有2000多個感知器啦那感知器事實上是透過感知器在配合他的高層就可以做一個那個判斷那這個判斷是由我們自己在我們經濟部水利署這邊做判斷的並不是在現場所以並不會受到停電的影響這是我們在中央這邊來做加值碼上分析的 |
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所以不會受到停電影響 那繼承的那個社區防災呢社區防災部分因為有一些是他自主防災很多里長或是志工他都會提報給我們所以社區防災是這個概念但是我們另外一邊是利用AI的一個科技化導入就是剛剛講感知器或CCTV的掌握那這個都同步在進行那會對淹水就是 |
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可以完全掌握對不對對也就是說現在有三個系統一個是透過志工給我們提報一個是透過感知器自動回傳另外就是EMIC那個縣市政府他會經由災防民眾去陳情的部分那這三個系統都匯整到水利署來也會匯整到災防辦這邊做統籌運用好 |
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好 那那個署長謝謝你喔 謝謝我想要請那個交通部次長因為 何次長 欸 何次長 你不要走我想要問一個問題喔 我突然我想到了我們去年有去看了就是說 ADAS的系統那我想要請交通部的那個我們交通部是林次長嗎我們一起好不好 何次長跟林次長不能一起嗎好 委員好 |
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就是說在EDAS這個輔助系統裡面就是說我知道說那個經濟部也有很多的技術以及測試的場域那未來怎麼樣子推動然後能夠讓我們的汽車零組件的這個市場可以擴大那協助我們的傳產跟中小企業就是中部的這個部分 |
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那次長你也知道說那我們現在在這個就是說不管是輔助系統或者是輔助駕駛或者自動駕駛的部分在我們交通場域的這個運用上面有什麼樣子的限制 |
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我們現在會透過那個測試中心去測試這個系統那這個系統如果企業它運用之後那我們也會提供研發補助給這個企業那但是我們因為第一個就是 |
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就是說我們的那個價值高齡化再來就是我們的就是說公共運輸的價值現在也有缺工的情況那所以未來就是說如果我們要怎麼樣子推廣這個產業以及就是能夠協助我們解決我們公共運輸還有我們 |
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就是說在六都以外的或者甚至六都啊都都需要這種協助的那個輔助駕駛的系統或者是甚至到未來可能是無人駕駛的系統那交通部你們有沒有像其他相關的 |
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是謝謝委員您提到這個確實是目前公共運輸也好駕駛的重要議題主要就是公共運輸來講有疲勞駕駛的問題有年齡老化也有缺工缺人的問題所以目前無人駕駛無人駕駛什麼時候可以上路 |
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你們相關的法規法令其實已經在測試了以前我們在桃機工研院有測試無人駕駛直接用50公里速度就可以切換那事實上在不同的示範區像沙崙我講的不是示範區我講的是說怎麼樣落地有一個問題因為落地的問題 |
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目前我們有Level 1到Level 4嘛那一般目前還在Level 2啦Level 2就是還是要需要人來注意跟操控那我們就對進入Level 3比較審慎因為已經涉及到駕駛人完全不用操控那可能所有的駕駛責任操控完全是設計廠商的問題 |
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其實我們Level 2現在也只是在試辦嗎?Level 2已經有了可以直接上路嗎?法規法令都沒有問題嗎?因為Level 2還是要人駕駛他要手要放在環境板上面所以基本上跟現在操作是一樣那Level 3就完全放手那就跳得比較大 |
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那這個部分呢有沒有辦法這個部分現在是測試中還沒有完全導入因為這會涉及到未來就是說超高齡的社會然後還有就是偏鄉的公共運輸啊或者是像你們所謂的需求反應式的這種 |
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公共運輸的運具等等這個都是可以協助的範圍內是不是是我們也鼓勵業者往這個方向來進行那但是目前車廁廠還有不是說法規法令啊主要還是系統要完整要能夠完全你覺得現在系統不夠完整嗎目前導入台灣的都還沒有還沒有 |
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那何次長是不是也回答一下跟我們報告我們有一個無人載具的一個沙盒計畫那當然就是說業者他可以來跟我們申請這個沙盒計畫那他可以在指定路線上面做一些測試那如果測試沒有問題的話我想才會基於安全的問題我們才會讓可能交通部那邊可能才會這個相關的上路的一些計畫交通部的次長提到了沒有沒有相關的技術是嗎 |
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技術應該是有啦技術有啦對不對因為我去看到技術有啦但是全盤型的技術或者是有導入在沙盒實驗測試中但是還沒有你是說沒有運用嗎應該說還沒有完成所有的測試能夠大量生產然後在國內取得正式的生產的過程因為畢竟它要生產的過程除了測試以外還要經過我們測驗中心 |
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因為這個東西為什麼我追了很久就是因為這個涉及到經濟部跟交通部經濟部是技術方面交通部是安全跟法規相關的部分那是不是就這個部分無人載具的部分怎麼樣子上路然後以及協助這個公共運輸是不是能夠召委是不是主席是不是能夠請他們提一個報告給委員會 |
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就提一個報告給我們好不好提一個相關的報告就是技術方面以及就是上路的法規法令怎麼樣子到level 3那這個相關的法規法令是不是也提到這個然後這樣子也可以協助我們中小企業中部地區的這些汽車零組件 |
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的企業喔那在這個不景氣的時候或者他們因為我們都半導體都很好了嘛可是我們的中小企業需要來協助好不好好謝謝委員好謝謝那我想要請農業部的陳部長委員好 |
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陳部長昨天我有請教我們台塘藍園的這個問題要在美國的基地做相關的生產那經濟部的總部長說這是你們農業部需要協助農民的部分 |
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對 因為台塘在美國它有一些燃煙廠那時候我們有跟經濟部透過台塘這邊協調就是說 是不是可以讓台塘的那個基地當我們台灣燃煙的一個接力生產的場域那我們也跟相關的協會 燃協這邊做討論然後他們也在做評估跟規劃因為最重要就是說 |
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610.386 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
635.331 |
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這些業者願意去那邊做接力生產不然到時候一旦建設了以後又沒有人去反而會更糟糕那現在正在藍鞋他們內部正在做這些討論因為不同的業者還是有不同的聲音因為我是知道說就是說我們台灣消亡美國的藍花是2300萬株可是台湯藍園的容納量只有500萬株 |
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636.591 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
664.213 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
那其他的好像沒有辦法容納那麼多這個我要跟委員報告就是我們台灣業者在美國的藍園的基地不是只有台南那一塊不是只有那個台南藍園還有其他的就是在西岸的部分就是介於部分是介於台南的地那他們在東岸的部分他們業者很多都有基地的所以它變成一個接力生產的一個基地可以供應就是加州的部分一直到奧勒根跟那個 |
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665.093 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
683.415 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
主要是家族的部分就對了那所以怎麼樣子未來農業部怎麼樣協助我們的花卉業者到就是說能夠在美國這個生產基金那怎麼樣子就是說有相關的能電系統怎麼樣子的怎樣就是說協助他們呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
683.996 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
709.722 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
我們初步的規劃就是說如果業者真的有那個共識而且他們願意當作經營主體因為業者要有經營主體的部分的時候那相關的這些設備的改善因為台棠那塊基地裡面的溫室部分的溫室已經太老舊了那我想政府會提供相關的經費去做這樣的一個修建滿足業者的需求以後然後由業者做經營主體去做處理 |
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710.922 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
728.341 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
好 謝謝那訊息也到了希望就是說除了災後的補貼希望我們農業部是不是能夠以精準農業跟智慧防災的角度協助農民進行訊息前主動式的預防可以嗎 |
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729.142 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
750.083 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
一定會的 我想委員一直非常關注這一切也一直叮嚀我們農業部就希望說在訊息的過程中讓農民早一點知道訊息 早一點做房貸的準備那這個部分我想我們在全台灣布建了非常多的農業專屬的氣象站大概200多個氣象站那透過這些氣象站的一個興建以後 |
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750.603 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
767.065 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
那個氣象的資訊的掌握更精準然後再透過智慧化的一些一些訊息的就是傳遞那才會讓那個農民有更早的一個預防我想這個我想我會尊重委員的意見然後我們更加速來進行好 謝謝好 謝謝謝一芬 |