| IVOD_ID |
169471 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169471 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-20T11:13:38+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-20T11:24:51+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:13 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e8e93c7ebde79bae91f299beab592cfe8366f596cea4852f4e525a9eb6f1b7321429c243362692245ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林思銘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:13:38 - 11:24:51 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請財政部莊部長翠雲與公股行庫董事長及金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆就「公股金融機構數位轉型、人力招募、員工權益及中長期整併規劃」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案行政院歲入預算有關中央銀行股息紅利繳庫部分、財政部及所屬單位歲入預算部分。（僅詢答）
三、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案有關賦稅署、臺北國稅局、高雄國稅局、北區國稅局及所屬、中區國稅局及所屬、南區國稅局及所屬歲出預算部分。（僅詢答）
【5月20日及21日二天一次會】
【預算提案截止時間：5月21日（四）下午5時】） |
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部長早部長我想今天是賴總統就職兩週年部長你則是在2023年1月31號上任也就是您跨了兩位總統與兩位行政院長的任期 |
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所以我今天第二個問題要問部長您的任期跨越了兩屆的執政團隊您覺得您自己或者是財政部的表現在這兩屆有什麼不同你有沒有什麼成績你認為跟上一屆比起來你這一屆有什麼值得誇口的一些政績可以跟我們大家來分享一下 |
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跟委員報告我不敢誇口但是我個人來說就是盡心盡力但是我們的團隊財政部團隊是非常優秀的他們也都盡心盡力都在做我想大家都努力在做那至於這個成績我想我們可以在相關的年報裡面都有所呈現那是讓國家整個財政更為穩健那我們稅制更為 |
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我想這個部分是大家努力一直 包含官務的也好 國產也好各個層面大家都是努力的往前走陳勝部是很努力在做 這個大家有目共睹但是值得誇口的 我覺得部長也不用去那麼客氣 |
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例如普發現金這件事情全民共享經濟的成果在去年發了一萬塊大家全民可以說非常的高興所以部長你認為普發現金這件事情財政部可不可以記上一筆功勞 |
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執行這個普發現金這件事情財政部和其他相關部會是一起努力包含金管會也一起還有數位部大家一起努力那真正在主導執行的是在財政部那這個我們的國庫署以及各公股行庫以及民營的行庫也都在ATM等等的程序上都很方便那目前也跟委員報告總共領取人員已經有2336萬 |
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那到4月生的新生兒他可以領到5月22號謝謝這個機會來讓大家所以這樣聽起來你也是對這個普發現金這件事情蠻贊同的啦不是所以我是說普發現金執行的狀況我知道跟普發現金是不是但是跟各部位所以那你是不同意囉你覺得這件事情不好嗎 |
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不是這個事情政策決定以後我們去做後續的執行是部會共同努力那最後是財政部是做統籌部長其實我是比較想聽到您說這件事情您覺得普發這件事情是財政部一個很好的政績所以我接下來想請問你 |
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那如果今年我們的稅收又超支的話未來有沒有可能再規劃說在今年再做一次現金的一個普發現金還稅於民 |
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跟委員報告今年的因為總預算還沒有審議所以預算案數還沒有出來但是要跟委員報告就是說我們沒有所謂的超增只是實增數跟預算數之間有所差距那我們所收的稅事實上都是進入國庫那由政府統籌來做運用 |
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統籌運用然後對於需要協助的弱勢的我們應該加強的協助那也希望能有國家更好的財政來做國家的建設然後培養整個經濟的發展然後才有更好的稅源然後協助更多的做更多的社會福利這個是很官方的回答啦但是我提醒你一下啦 |
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當時財政部的官網表示全民加一政府相挺普發現金提供多元領取管道另外也強調全民共享經濟的成果都是正面表態支持將稅收超支的稅收還稅於民而且確實 |
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人民普遍大家都非常的喜悅那也確實振興了國內的經濟及消費所以還稅漁民的政策可以說是朝野都是支持的一個政府的其實是一個德政還稅漁民所以部長您是否認同說還稅漁民的措施應該列為長期的一個政策規劃甚至我們在立法上予以體現你是否認同 |
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市長跟委員報告已經說了就是所謂的時增數跟預算數之間的差距它不是超增就很白話啦時增數收了以後國家的稅收是進入國庫統籌去做運用嘛那現行的法律也已經很清楚了在稅收超於預期的時候又要怎麼樣做配置 |
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然後第一個我們可以減少舉債然後厚實我們的財政的一個韌性那至於如何的配置以及如何去協助公共系統的一個發展公共建設以及對真正需要的民眾可以獲得國家的支持我想這是財政資源的一個配置部長我們講更具體一點啦因為我想我們未來在規劃上面如果像這個去年或者前年超徵的稅收已經高達了四五千億 |
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所以這個時候已經超增了可以說非常跟你預期的這個稅收的增加非常的多所以這時候呢還稅漁民這個政策你這支不支持啊如果一萬塊才兩千三百億嘛如果你徵收的實收數已經有四五千億你還有其他的大概兩三千億可以運用啊去還債啊 |
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所以去讓全民共享這個經濟成果你過去說這個力挺那你現在說今年一樣這種經濟成果又這個出現的話難道你沒有做想做這樣這方面的規劃嗎 |
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有關經濟成長的果實讓民眾分享那當然是應該的那也跟委員報告114年的稅收中央的部分事實上是比預算數是少了251億 |
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很大方的說出如果我們的經濟成果有這麼好的話我們願意來執行這件事情我想你的建議會影響整個行政團隊他們的一個這個決策嘛 |
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好不好 OK 好啦 這個議題就到這裡一步為難你的另外 部長您今天的專報提到積極落實流財纜財的措施持續改善員工權益及福利政策採取多元管道招攬強化升遷流財機制優化員工福利 營造友善的職場環境但是我們看到最近媒體報導 |
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八大公股銀行正面臨中高階主管的退休潮今年預估將近有20位副總經理接鄰退休如果再加計經理及以上的主管全年可能有超過百位的中高階主管退休 |
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過去三年整理公股銀行的副總經理加上那個經理級的主管退休人數出估已超過了250位甚至有單一行庫近三年的中高階主管退休人數接近百人 |
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公股銀行一邊要做人力的招募規劃卻一邊出現了高階的主管的一個退休潮啊所以部長我想請問你啊未來財政部是否還是會沿用按年資升遷的舊制或者建立新的中升代接班中高階主管的一個培育機制 |
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你如何來招攬留住人才來招攬人才我想對於有關內部的員工的身兼的機制各個公股行庫待會根據他的公司治理才去訂定但是我們會也是公股行庫一直朝著透明公平的一個身兼而且能夠縮短這個 |
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身兼的一個年資讓他們可以對於今年朋友們具有發展潛能的表現優異的可以提前拔佐我想這個是很重要的年資不是唯一所以我剛才一直提醒你其實我希望說你盡早建立中高階主管接班的一個培育機制這個機制要把它建立起來 |
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這個部分我們其實財政部也都有在做我們對於中高階的一些經理人我們有相關的一些培訓不然結合金融研訓院或者我們自己財訓所在辦理都有的 |
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有啦 有在積極的做這個弄一套制度出來啦好的 謝謝另外對這個新清安政策七月就要屆期了嘛那各界都在關注新的方案會有哪些調整所以部長財政部在朝你的方案預計何時會提出 |
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我們大概預計會在六月底左右提出六月底會提出嗎對 六月底的時候提出財政部的想法跟我們負責的各河帶的供苦航庫目前最大的差異點是在哪裡我們其實除了跟供苦航庫討論之外我們也邀同了央行還有金管會以及內政部一起都來做討論 |
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對於過去三年執行的一個狀況以及未來要採取什麼樣的一個做法都持續的在討論討論完以後我們有具體方案就要報行政院核定所以我們預計的期程希望在六月底之前能夠六月底能夠定案以後跟社會大眾來做報告各行庫的董事長關於新清安的方案跟你有沒有什麼建議或有不同的看法 |
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我們各行庫的董總們的一些建議都在我們會上都有提出來都有做討論的我想這個新青岸政策大家都很關心這個版本希望月月底才能提出月月底就會提出來 |
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6月底我們的預計期程是6月底對於社會大眾報告跟選舉沒關因為是7月因為新青安是到7月31號屆滿嘛所以我們要在屆滿前差不多這樣提出來跟選舉沒有關係啊 |
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就是希望能夠繼續執行就對了會繼續執行委員是希望繼續執行是不是不是啊我就要斟酌各大公股行股的意見啊會當然公股行股意見也很重要我們一併做檢討好我們謝謝林思敏委員的質詢接下來請羅明財委員 |