| IVOD_ID |
169463 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169463 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
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20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-20T10:40:41+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-20T10:51:20+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:39 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e8e93c7ebde79bae02ad83e2d64594dd8366f596cea4852f1cbc05507f2af63414e39bd33e9c15bb5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
顏寬恒 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:40:41 - 10:51:20 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請財政部莊部長翠雲與公股行庫董事長及金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆就「公股金融機構數位轉型、人力招募、員工權益及中長期整併規劃」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案行政院歲入預算有關中央銀行股息紅利繳庫部分、財政部及所屬單位歲入預算部分。（僅詢答）
三、審查中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案有關賦稅署、臺北國稅局、高雄國稅局、北區國稅局及所屬、中區國稅局及所屬、南區國稅局及所屬歲出預算部分。（僅詢答）
【5月20日及21日二天一次會】
【預算提案截止時間：5月21日（四）下午5時】） |
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根據美國國防部12日公布的數據美國4月的消費者物價指數月增幅0.6%年增率升到3.8%創下三年以來最大的增幅 |
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而通膨阻音是來自於中東戰爭更直接引爆全球能源供應鏈的危機進而推高美國國內的物價跟生活成本儘管廉政會即將由這個華許 |
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來接任主席但原先市場預期的降息也因為CPI的推升那降息的機率越來越小那主席總數在7號公布台灣4月CPI年增率1.74%較3月的1.2%雖然沒有突破2% |
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但這個越增幅表現這個非常顯著請問副總裁如果中東戰事導致能源價格維持高檔那央行社會會擔心國內出現通膨疫情的心理簡單說明一下 |
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我們目前從資料來看,因為的確是有看到國際油價的受限導致大家對通膨預期的預估的調升 |
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那我們目前在台灣我們目前根據我們3月的時候估計大概是1點CPI是1.8那個前提是油價是在全年的平均油價布蘭特原油是在85元那如果說這個未來的原油價格上漲那自然會影響到我們對台灣CPI的估測的上修的一個部分 |
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我們會在六月中旬的時候會公布我們最新的一個數據對 因為能源價格的衝擊還沒有完全反應因為很多專家學者都認為說未來恐怕將進一步還有這個推升運輸跟消費的成本形成第二波的一個通膨壓力 |
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那台灣高度依賴進口能源然後呢央行除了透過匯率政策要穩定進口這個價格物價之外你認為目前的油價平衡機制目前的這個平衡機制是不是足以反式輸入型通膨對於我們的一個CPI影響從我們目前看到就是說政府的油價平衡機制的確是有助於我們對於CPI擅展的一個擅展壓力 |
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有辦法平穩未來第二波的通膨壓力因為如果它持續的話那當然還是會有它的效果存在我們先前楊金榮總裁有說過說世界各國由寬鬆的貨幣政策改採緊縮貨幣那中央銀行也會沿著你帶採取適當手段要來維持金融穩定 |
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但是現在受CPI影響機率的一個降低就是它美國本來預期要降息那受到這樣影響可能會降低所以說如果未來華許主席上任之後為了抗通膨然後延後降息甚至轉向緊縮 |
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那台灣為了要維持台美的利差避免外資大幅的撤出那導致新來賓過度的貶值所以會不會被迫考慮面向升息這個請副總裁說明我想我們的貨幣政策其實是考慮很多面向的那我們會在六月中旬的時候我們會針對所有的國內外經濟的問題以及對我們的通貨的預測會做評估是嘛好都有考慮嘛 |
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所以我們就期待說央行要不只是說嚴正以待更是要有一個決心要確保台灣在這一波全球能源危機還有貨幣政策當中能夠維持真正的物價跟金融穩定可以嗎 副總裁那是一定的是 好 那請回謝謝副總裁請回那再請主席我們請財政部莊部長還有負稅署宋署長請部長 請宋署長 |
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委員好部長早我們這個複稅署跟五區國稅局115年度預算共編約媒體政策優先導費4243萬較114年度增加2552萬增幅達到150%以上 |
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那其中複稅署就編入了4130萬那是有什麼樣新的業務要多花2000多萬作為宣傳可以簡單說明 |
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跟委員報告有關我們的不管是租稅的法令也好或相關的程序也好或者有關減稅的一些優惠措施都需要透過我們一些宣導那甚至對青年學子我們也會做一些教育讓他們會有一些租稅的一些觀念所以這個部分的一個宣導費用是有必要的 |
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至於金額的部分您認為就是說在115年編的比114年高那因為114年是我們當時被砍了60%有很多業務是沒有辦法去做的那這一次只是回到原來的我們本來應該就要做的宣導要把它們補回來是不是不是本來就是應該要做就要去做那我想是這樣子的意思那詳細的是不是我們請署長來做補充簡單說明好不好看 |
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報告委員因為我們沒宣費啊一向就是編大概在4000萬左右那去年是因為通商的60%所以至於刪了2400多萬剩下1600多萬所以如果委員去拿去年的預算數來比您一定會覺得說我們今年多了很多但事實上我們只是把通商的部分 |
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恢復而已啦 那我們真的是需要這麼多錢因為有很多新的法令我們都需要去宣導 甚至還要教民眾怎麼防詐騙啊什麼之類 我們都有一片這個防詐打詐 包括雲端載具啊 這些的 這些同意發票使用啊還有這些什麼這個沒宣費本來就是都有在做啊現在民眾也都知道要這麼做嘛 |
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所以我想說包含我們平面的刊登次數啊網路曝光次數啊還有廣播及電視播放次數這些我們也沒有定目標值啊所以譬如說我們支持你這個預算但是我們看不到目標目標是多少才算及格才算達到我們自己內定的一個標準嘛這個部分所以署長這要請你再提示好不好 |
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我們支持預算 但是預算你沒有達到原來的標準謝謝委員我會跟委員報告一下說我們過去做了哪些效果 成效如何那我再請教部長就是公股行庫員工權益的問題因為我們現在公股行庫基層員工的辛苦我想請問部長你知不知道什麼叫做免洗櫃員 |
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免洗桂園要聽過嗎免洗桂園 為何免洗桂園 |
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美喜櫃園又是櫃檯人員意思就是說泰幻的頻率非常的高就用完即丟就是說因為他們自稱為美喜櫃園我們看到第一線這些人員他努力的付出但是沒有被感覺到存在的價值我瀏覽了很多基層人員在社群媒體上面關於這個 |
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對於整個工作環境的一個評價最多的留言就是兩個字快逃快逃那為什麼這樣子我總結出幾個問題就是說一個薪水低通常外界都認為說功夫航空應該待遇不錯但事實上並非如此你去看一下他現在招募的薪資跟這些知名的 |
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這個水啊飲料開出的薪水其實差不了多少差不了多少那要怎麼樣吸引人才那所以說再來就是行政機關也常常出現其實新人被霸凌職場霸凌的問題這個部分那我們譬如說啦能走多老 |
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所以高職等的我們這些幹部那其實他也不用怎麼樣就是說也不太需要把事情都交給辦事員去做並且要求辦事員要這個證照要都考取才有機會升遷那其實 |
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這個業績的部分我們這些基層工作人員他必須要不斷的推銷像客戶推銷有時候要自己花錢還是找親友來買產品這樣子才避免說烤雞被打一等這個部分我想這個內部職場內部問題我想部長要多關心要多關心要實際去做我們也要告訴我們在座的我們各位董總 |
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因為職工職員就是我們最大的資產尤其是第一線工作人員他們付出了這麼多我們千萬不要讓他們把自己認為是免洗櫃員要讓他們有發覺到他們有存在感這也是員工的權益員工也是我們所有公司的一個最大的資產這樣可以嗎 |
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不啦 可不可以再要求委員您剛剛的一些提示 我想我們都了解也會持續的去友善我們的工作環境同樣是真的要做啦 不只是公股議員 財政部的同仁也都很辛苦我們結束我們引換委員的質詢 接下來請陳玉珍委員 |
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主席、各位列席官員、各位立院的同事，大家好。 |
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主席，先請央行嚴副總裁。 |
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請嚴副總裁。 |
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嚴副總裁宗大 |
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委員好。 |
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2026-05-20T10:40:46+08:00 |
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副總裁，你好。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-05-20T10:40:41.029000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:41:20.669000+08:00 |
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根據美國國防部12日公布的數據，美國4月消費者物價指數月增率0.6%，年增率升到3.8%，創下三年以來最大增幅，而通膨主因是來自於中東戰爭，更直接引爆全球能源供應鏈危機，進而推高美國國內物價跟生活成本。 |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-05-20T10:41:21.409000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:41:34.097000+08:00 |
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儘管聯準會即將由華許接任主席，但原先市場預期的降息也因為CPI的推升，機率越來越小。 |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.949 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-05-20T10:41:35.058000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:41:48.367000+08:00 |
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主計總處在7號公布臺灣4月CPI年增率1.74%，較3月的1.2%，雖然沒有突破2%，但月增幅表現非常顯著。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0.927 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-05-20T10:41:49.468000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:41:57.690000+08:00 |
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請問副總裁，如果中東戰事導致能源價格維持高檔，央行是否會擔心國內出現通膨預期的心理？ |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-05-20T10:41:58.251000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-05-20T10:41:58.451000+08:00 |
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簡單說明一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
嚴副總裁宗大 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-05-20T10:42:01.033000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:42:06.298000+08:00 |
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目前從資料來看，的確是有看到因為受限國際油價，導致大家對通膨預期的…… |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.871 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-05-20T10:42:06.298000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
1 |
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2026-05-20T10:42:07.298000+08:00 |
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預期心理都出來？ |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.143 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
嚴副總裁宗大 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-05-20T10:42:06.478000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-05-20T10:42:07.298000+08:00 |
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預估的調升。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
嚴副總裁宗大 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-05-20T10:42:18.167000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:42:30.357000+08:00 |
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目前臺灣根據我們3月的估計，CPI是1.8，但前提是布蘭特原油全年平均油價在85元。 |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.794 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
嚴副總裁宗大 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-05-20T10:42:31.437000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:42:39.023000+08:00 |
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如果未來原油價格上漲，自然會影響到我們對臺灣CPI的估測上修。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
嚴副總裁宗大 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-05-20T10:42:40.424000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:42:44.929000+08:00 |
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我們會在6月中旬公布最新的數據。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-05-20T10:42:44.929000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:42:57.220000+08:00 |
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因為能源價格的衝擊還沒有完全反映，很多專家學者都認為未來恐怕將進一步推升運輸跟消費的成本，形成第二波通膨壓力。 |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.981 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-05-20T10:42:58.741000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:43:18.329000+08:00 |
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臺灣高度依賴進口能源，央行除了透過匯率政策穩定進口物價之外，你認為目前的油價平穩機制是不是足以緩釋輸入型通膨對於CPI的影響？ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
嚴副總裁宗大 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-05-20T10:43:18.329000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:43:25.431000+08:00 |
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我們目前看到政府的油價平穩機制，的確有助於減輕CPI上漲的壓力。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.767 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-05-20T10:43:26.432000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:43:29.390000+08:00 |
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未來第二波通膨壓力有辦法平穩嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.467 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
嚴副總裁宗大 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-05-20T10:43:32.671000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:43:37.113000+08:00 |
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如果它持續的話，當然還是會有它的效果存在。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-05-20T10:43:37.994000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:43:49.640000+08:00 |
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先前楊金龍總裁有說過，世界各國由寬鬆貨幣政策改採緊縮貨幣，中央銀行也會嚴正以待，採取適當手段來維持金融穩定。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-05-20T10:43:54.504000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-05-20T10:44:01.811000+08:00 |
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美國本來預期要降息，但是現在受到CPI的影響，機率可能會降低。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.643 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-05-20T10:44:02.552000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:44:23.209000+08:00 |
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如果未來華許主席上任之後，為了抗通膨而延後降息，甚至於轉向緊縮，臺灣為了要維持臺美的利差，避免外資大幅撤出，導致新臺幣過度貶值，會不會被迫考慮逆向升息？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.928 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-05-20T10:44:24.449000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:44:25.030000+08:00 |
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請副總裁說明。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
嚴副總裁宗大 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-05-20T10:44:26.190000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:44:34.636000+08:00 |
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我們的貨幣政策其實要考慮很多面向，我們會在6月中旬針對所有的國內外經濟問題以及通膨的預測做評估。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.956 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-05-20T10:44:35.276000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:44:35.737000+08:00 |
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都有考慮嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-05-20T10:44:39.839000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:44:54.831000+08:00 |
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我們期待央行不只是嚴正以待，更是要有決心，確保臺灣在這一波全球能源危機還有貨幣政策當中，能夠維持真正的物價跟金融穩定，可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
嚴副總裁宗大 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-05-20T10:44:55.231000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-05-20T10:44:55.792000+08:00 |
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可以，那是一定的。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-05-20T10:44:58.554000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-05-20T10:44:59.094000+08:00 |
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副總裁，請回。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-05-20T10:44:59.975000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:45:04.499000+08:00 |
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再請主席請財政部莊部長，還有賦稅署宋署長。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-05-20T10:45:04.499000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:45:05.079000+08:00 |
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請部長、請宋署長。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-05-20T10:45:10.215000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-05-20T10:45:10.515000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-05-20T10:45:11.576000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-05-20T10:45:11.716000+08:00 |
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部長早。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-05-20T10:45:18.720000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:45:27.005000+08:00 |
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賦稅署跟五區國稅局115年度預算共編列媒體政策業務宣導費4,243萬，較114年度增加2,552萬，增幅達到150%以上。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.829 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-05-20T10:45:37.671000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-05-20T10:45:38.672000+08:00 |
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其中賦稅署就編列了4,130萬，是有什麼樣新的業務要多花兩千多萬作為宣傳？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.839 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-05-20T10:45:38.672000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-05-20T10:45:38.812000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
可不可以簡單說明？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-05-20T10:45:50.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-05-20T10:46:10.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
有關不管是租稅的法令或相關程序，或者有關減稅的一些優惠措施，都需要透過宣導，甚至對青年學子，我們也會做一些教育，讓他們有一些租稅的觀念，所以這個部分的宣導費用是有必要的。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-05-20T10:46:11.106000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-05-20T10:46:26.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
至於金額的部分，您認為115年編的比114年高，因為114年是我們當時被砍了60%，有很多業務是沒有辦法去做的，這一次只是回到原來的、我們本來應該就要做的宣導。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-05-20T10:46:26.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-05-20T10:46:27.138000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
要把他們補回來？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.429 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-05-20T10:46:27.138000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-05-20T10:46:28.879000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
要補回來，是不是這個意思？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.545 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-05-20T10:46:28.999000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-05-20T10:46:33.182000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
不是，本來就是應該要做就要去做，我是這樣的意思。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
莊部長翠雲 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-05-20T10:46:33.903000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-05-20T10:46:35.724000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
詳細的部分是不是請署長來補充？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
顏委員寬恒 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-05-20T10:46:35.824000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-05-20T10:46:36.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
簡單說明，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
宋署長秀玲 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-05-20T10:46:38.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-05-20T10:46:50.026000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
我們的媒宣費一向編列大概4,000萬左右，去年是因為通刪60%，以致於刪了兩千四百多萬，剩下一千六百多萬。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.674 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
宋署長秀玲 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-05-20T10:46:50.326000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-05-20T10:47:00.791000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
如果委員拿去年的預算數來比，一定會覺得我們今年多了很多，但事實上，我們只是把通刪的部分恢復而已。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.977 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
宋署長秀玲 |
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2026-05-20T10:47:01.251000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:47:11.633000+08:00 |
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我們真的需要這麼多錢，因為有很多新的法令都需要去宣導，甚至還要教民眾怎麼防詐騙之類，我們都有一併在處理。 |
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0.917 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:47:13.894000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:47:25.636000+08:00 |
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防詐、打詐，包括雲端載具、統一發票使用，媒宣費本來就都有在做，現在民眾也都知道要這麼做。 |
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0.921 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:47:27.176000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:47:43.787000+08:00 |
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所以包含平面的刊登次數、網路曝光次數，還有廣播及電視播放次數，這些你們並沒有訂目標值，變成我們支持這個預算，但是看不到目標，所以目標是多少才算及格？ |
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0.896 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:47:44.287000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:47:46.809000+08:00 |
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才算達到你們自己內定的標準？ |
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0.923 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:47:47.529000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:47:51.232000+08:00 |
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這個部分請署長再提示，好不好？好。 |
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0.857 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:47:52.272000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:47:57.094000+08:00 |
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我們支持預算，但是預算沒有達到……給我們一個標準…… |
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0.762 |
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宋署長秀玲 |
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2026-05-20T10:47:57.234000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:47:57.494000+08:00 |
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謝謝委員。 |
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1 |
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宋署長秀玲 |
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2026-05-20T10:47:57.494000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:48:01.576000+08:00 |
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我會跟委員報告一下，我們過去做了哪些、成效如何。好。 |
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0.955 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:48:03.037000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:48:19.364000+08:00 |
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我再請教部長關於公股行庫員工權益的問題，現在公股行庫基層員工很辛苦，請問部長知不知道什麼叫做「免洗桂圓」？ |
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0.896 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:48:21.816000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:48:22.156000+08:00 |
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有沒有聽過「免洗桂圓」？ |
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0.333 |
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莊部長翠雲 |
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2026-05-20T10:48:25.541000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:48:26.282000+08:00 |
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何為「免洗桂圓」？ |
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0.5 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:48:27.543000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:48:45.823000+08:00 |
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「免洗桂圓」就是櫃檯人員，意思就是汰換的頻率非常高，用完即丟，所以他們自稱為「免洗桂圓」。 |
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0.73 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:48:47.224000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:48:52.246000+08:00 |
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我們看到這些第一線人員努力付出，但是沒有被感覺到存在的價值。 |
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0.929 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:48:53.946000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:49:04.752000+08:00 |
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我瀏覽了很多基層人員在社群媒體上對於整個工作環境的評價，最多的留言就是兩個字「快逃」。 |
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1 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:49:07.975000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:49:08.395000+08:00 |
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為什麼會這樣？ |
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0.833 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:49:09.036000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:49:17.743000+08:00 |
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我總結出幾個問題，一是薪水低，通常外界都認為公股行庫應該待遇不錯，但事實並非如此。 |
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0.865 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:49:19.404000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:49:29.472000+08:00 |
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你去看一下現在招募的薪資跟知名手搖飲料店開出的薪水其實差不了多少。 |
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0.906 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:49:30.412000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:49:31.433000+08:00 |
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那要怎麼樣吸引人才？ |
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1 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:49:33.174000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:50:01.682000+08:00 |
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再來就是行政機關也常常出現新人被霸凌、職場霸凌的問題，譬如說能者多勞，高職等的幹部把事情都交給辦事員去做，並且要求辦事員要考取相關的證照，才有機會升遷，就是所謂的「有功無賞，打破要賠」。 |
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0.759 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:50:08.346000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:50:21.456000+08:00 |
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至於業績部分，這些基層工作人員必須不斷地向客戶推銷，有時候要自己花錢或是找親友買產品，才能避免考績被打乙等。 |
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0.82 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:50:22.337000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:50:28.942000+08:00 |
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對於這些職場內部的問題，我想部長要多關心、要實際去做。 |
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0.833 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:50:29.682000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:50:38.626000+08:00 |
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我們也要告訴在座各位董、總，職工、職員就是我們最大的資產，尤其是第一線工作人員。 |
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1 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:50:38.626000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:50:55.351000+08:00 |
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他們付出了這麼多，千萬不要讓他們覺得自己是「免洗桂圓」（免洗櫃員），要讓他們發覺到有存在感，這也是員工的權益，員工也是所有公司最大的資產，這樣可以嗎？ |
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0.908 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:50:58.767000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:50:59.468000+08:00 |
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部長，可不可以這樣要求？ |
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0.6 |
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莊部長翠雲 |
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2026-05-20T10:50:59.528000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:51:06.277000+08:00 |
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對於委員您剛剛的提示，我們都了解，也會持續地友善我們的工作環境，同樣地…… |
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0.875 |
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顏委員寬恒 |
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2026-05-20T10:51:06.277000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:51:06.798000+08:00 |
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是真的要做、真的要做。 |
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0.556 |
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莊部長翠雲 |
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2026-05-20T10:51:07.179000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:51:10.283000+08:00 |
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不只是公股銀行，財政部的同仁也都很辛苦。 |
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0.889 |
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主席 |
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2026-05-20T10:51:13.127000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:51:13.928000+08:00 |
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謝謝，顏寬恒委員的質詢結束。 |
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0.417 |
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主席 |
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2026-05-20T10:51:13.928000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:51:15.069000+08:00 |
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接下來請陳玉珍委員。 |
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1 |