| IVOD_ID |
169458 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169458 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-20T09:57:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-20T10:05:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e8e93c7ebde79bae7953f59a74e67ddd3847d5ba5f4714201cbc05507f2af63478b37549b5781d025ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:57:29 - 10:05:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：邀請原住民族委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會董事長與財團法人原住民族語言研究發展基金會董事長列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形) ，並備質詢。） |
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我請主委好 主委請張委員好主委我們平埔族身份法這個也已經有通過了那我想請問一下現在我們平埔族的成員相互所辦理登記的這個開始了嗎?還沒有行政院合併之後就可以開始了行政院合併之後馬上就可以開始了 |
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目前已經送行政院了那跟戶政事務所這邊呢我們有沒有聯繫我們 |
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跟地方政府的這個副鎮事務所也協調過了都協調過了告訴他們未來的登記又怎麼做怎麼做協調過是一件事我想請教的是那你們協調的具體內容現在第一線的副鎮事務所他都可以很清楚的知道如果來他怎麼辦嗎 |
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跟委員報告那這個部分是兩個區塊一個是民族成員身份登記的部分這裡已經都跟地方原民機關跟民政機關協調處理完畢SOP表單等都已經完備另外在護證人員登記評估原住民身份的部分我們也跟內政部共同規劃好了登記的作業的SOP表單以及相關的事項均已發給各地方政府的民政局向下傳遞給護證人員來做接續的辦理 |
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所以你的意思就是說護證人員都很清楚了因為現在平埔原住民身份登記的一些基本程序跟現在原住民的身份登記程序基本上是完全接近的所以護證人員已經非常的熟悉山地原住民跟平地原住民登記的作業所以平埔原住民只是一個選項上的不同作業登記上面的話不會有太大的困難 |
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現在平原三原是他的身份非常確定那你平埔族的身份我想喔可能你們園民會是比較清楚他的身份如何認證那你第一線的護真人員我不認為他可以像三原平原這樣子非常清楚的認證喔 |
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那我想這個我們會持續跟這個地方政府我們就是做第一次第二次繼續的來再還沒有開始可以登記以前我們再多幾次一定要貫徹到特別是副鎮書所第一線的人員要能夠清除我覺得啦你們要多幾次互相跨部會的協調這是一個另外 |
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用幾個例子 用幾個什麼 讓第一線的副鎮人員能夠很清楚的知道啊對不對 你都講SOP SOP 但有很多的例子啊 他可能不在你們的SOP裡面 有什麼我覺得是要用實際的例子 讓副鎮人員大家互相去溝通 去協調一下我覺得這樣子到時候才不會啊 你 |
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人家去到那邊,按你身份的護證人員第一線也可能沒有了解那麼清楚,這可能會造成延宕的很多問題喔,你們有沒有考慮到這個?我們齁,就是說在跟這個地方政府在做說明的時候,我們也會 |
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有幾個案例把實際的案例拿出來再做說明可能仍然還是不過就看有時候碰到問題了才知道也許才會更有一些比較特殊的是碰到了我們一樣會來協助來處理對啦 主委我就是怕你們有特殊的你碰到到時候在那邊他說他是啦 護正人員又要找你們這些我覺得都可以事先去做的 |
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都可以事先去做的去預防的啦好不好不然我覺得這有可能啊這個量啊會很大喔好另外啦齁這個啊齁原住民主工作權保障法裡面有殆金啊這個部分啦齁主委 |
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現在啊,很多的企業啊,他其實啊,他有時候想要找原住民的員工啊,他其實他不一定找得到是不是啊?是對啊,那他不一定找得到,他要用代金要用什麼,那其實這是一個變通的辦法那主委啊,繳了代金之後啊,那錢怎麼用啊?這個錢怎麼用? |
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跟委員報告就是我們就待經南海之後我們有包含是請就位服務員然後做一些相關職業訓練 |
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那個提供就業等等的一些相關方案都是在用這筆錢我知道啦這些東西好像有啦但又好像很空洞啦又好像很不切實際啦這筆錢啊就沒有很直接用在需要的地方主委這個貸金的部分我們以後可不可以有一些不一樣的想法 |
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這筆錢我們直接用在部落裡面用在什麼他去認養偏鄉的職校的設備或提供他們那個帶薪、實習等等的我們把它用在原住民真的年輕人這個就業的訓練然後甚至現在很多產業很多行業裡面的一些工作未來 |
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都會被AI電腦取代我們用這筆錢直接讓我們的年輕人可以直接去用不要再像現在很不切實際我不知道主委你的看法我們的職業訓練當中其實也有針對AI的部分還有一些無人機的部分這些東西我們都有跟著時代來去做一個訓練 |
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你那個只是課程之一啦我現在的意思就是說我現在意思就是說如果未來這個貸金的部分我們專款專用直接是用到這一塊直接用到偏鄉他可以用設備或什麼甚至也可以跟財政部講我如果企業我沒有辦法請到原住民我要用貸金那如果 |
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我們的貸金現在是規定是我們現在是規定至少要1%的這個這個原住民嘛那甚至他如果他可以多一些貸金他可以double或什麼用在我們這個專案上或什麼的財政部也可以讓他在一些稅金的減免我覺得這樣子是不是比較直接不然這筆錢現在給我坦白講現在我們貸金是納入到我們的就業基金裡面來 |
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他是針對原住民的就業我知道啦 現行是這樣嘛那我的意思是說代金你就把他直接這筆錢直接拿出來直接就用在部落上啊像我剛剛說的啊有些部落講句難聽一點的學校設備也不好對不對 他在求學的過程就沒有那些設備你說你的AI他還要去你那邊有電腦啊對不對那我們讓他更直接 |
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培養我們部落的年輕人這是一個方向嘛我不知道主委你認不認同認同就直接讓更需要的部落就直接來使用這樣對啊這樣我們才能夠訓練我們部落的年輕人未來他出來找得到好的工作啊是不是可以朝這個方向來看看我們來朝這個方向來做好 謝謝 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T09:57:34.868000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:57:35.328000+08:00 |
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我請主委。 |
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主席 |
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2026-05-20T09:57:41.090000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:57:41.210000+08:00 |
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請主委。 |
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曾主任委員智勇 |
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2026-05-20T09:57:41.250000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:57:41.430000+08:00 |
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張委員好。 |
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| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T09:57:42.490000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:57:57.994000+08:00 |
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主委，平埔族身分法已經通過了，我想請問一下，現在平埔族的成員向戶所辦理登記的部分已經開始了嗎？ |
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0.837 |
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曾主任委員智勇 |
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2026-05-20T09:58:01.154000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:58:06.375000+08:00 |
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行政院核定之後馬上就可以開始了，目前已經送行政院了。 |
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0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T09:58:06.776000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:58:09.859000+08:00 |
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你們跟戶政事務所有沒有聯繫？ |
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0.846 |
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曾主任委員智勇 |
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2026-05-20T09:58:09.859000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:58:21.087000+08:00 |
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我們跟地方政府戶政事務所都協調過了，包括告訴他們未來的登記要怎麼做。 |
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0.844 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T09:58:23.509000+08:00 |
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協調過是一件事，我想請教的是你們協調的具體內容，如果他們來登記，現在第一線的戶政事務所都可以很清楚的知道這要怎麼辦嗎？ |
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0.8 |
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曾處長興中 |
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2026-05-20T09:58:38.205000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，這個部分是兩個區塊，一個是民族成員身分登記的部分，這都已經跟地方原民機關跟民政機關協調處理完畢，SOP、表單等都已經完備。 |
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0.967 |
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曾處長興中 |
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2026-05-20T09:58:49.189000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:59:00.173000+08:00 |
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另外，在戶政人員登記平埔原住民身分的部分，我們也跟內政部共同規劃好登記作業的SOP、表單以及相關的事項，均已發給各地方政府民政局，向下傳遞給戶政人員來做接續的辦理。 |
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0.908 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T09:59:03.088000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:59:06.091000+08:00 |
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所以你的意思是戶政人員都很清楚了？ |
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0.875 |
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曾處長興中 |
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2026-05-20T09:59:07.452000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:59:23.707000+08:00 |
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因為現在平埔原住民身分登記的一些基本程序跟現在原住民身分登記程序基本上是完全接近，所以戶政人員已經非常的熟悉山地原住民跟平地原住民登記的作業，而平埔原住民只是一個選項上的不同，在作業登記上不會有太大的困難。 |
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0.939 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T09:59:26.348000+08:00 |
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現在平原、山原的身分非常確定，可是平埔族的身分，我想你們原民會可能會比較清楚他的身分如何認證，但第一線的戶政人員我不認為可以像山原、平原這樣可以非常清楚的認證喔！ |
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0.773 |
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曾主任委員智勇 |
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2026-05-20T09:59:59.189000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:00:08.877000+08:00 |
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在還沒有開始登記以前，我們會持續、再多幾次的做協調，特別是戶政事務所的第一線的人員，一定要貫徹讓他們能夠清楚。 |
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0.58 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T10:00:10.899000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:00:16.143000+08:00 |
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我覺得你們要多次進行跨部會的互相協調。 |
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0.778 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T10:00:16.944000+08:00 |
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另外，可以用幾個例子或是什麼方式，讓第一線的戶政人員能夠很清楚的知道，你都是講SOP、SOP，但有很多的例子可能不在你們的SOP裡面喔！ |
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0.839 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T10:00:34.589000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:00:59.303000+08:00 |
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所以我覺得要用實際的例子，讓戶政人員大家互相去溝通、協調一下，到時候才不會人家去登記身分，但第一線戶政人員可能沒有了解那麼清楚，造成延宕等等很多問題，你們有沒有考慮到這個呢？ |
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0.812 |
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曾主任委員智勇 |
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2026-05-20T10:00:59.303000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:01:18.787000+08:00 |
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我們在跟地方政府做說明的時候，也會把幾個實際的案例拿出來再做說明，或許可能還是不夠，畢竟有時候是碰到問題了才知道，像一些比較特殊的若碰到了，我們一樣會協助處理。對啦！ |
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0.882 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T10:01:19.387000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:01:35.800000+08:00 |
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主委，我就是怕到時碰到特殊的，戶政人員一樣還是又要找你們，這些我覺得都可以事先去做預防。是。 |
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0.732 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T10:01:37.702000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:01:44.410000+08:00 |
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不然我覺得這個量可能會很大喔！好。好。 |
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0.812 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T10:01:44.911000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:02:07.828000+08:00 |
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另外，原住民族工作權保障法裡面有規定代金這個部分，主委，現在很多企業有時候想要找原住民的員工，其實他不一定找得到，是不是？是。 |
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0.929 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T10:02:09.589000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:02:14.652000+08:00 |
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他不一定找得到，要用代金又要用什麼方式，其實這是一個變通的辦法。 |
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0.897 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T10:02:15.392000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:02:19.835000+08:00 |
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主委，繳了代金之後，那筆錢怎麼用？ |
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0.929 |
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羅處長赫踛 |
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2026-05-20T10:02:23.796000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:02:35.437000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，就業代金收取之後，我們會拿來做包含聘請就業服務員、相關職業訓練及促進就業等一些相關方案，都是用這筆錢支應。 |
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0.704 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T10:02:35.437000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:02:37.699000+08:00 |
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我知道這些東西好像有啦！ |
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1 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T10:02:38.419000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:02:47.668000+08:00 |
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但又好像很空洞、又好像很不切實際，這筆錢就沒有很直接用在需要的地方。 |
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1 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T10:02:48.129000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:02:55.596000+08:00 |
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主委，針對代金的部分，你們以後可不可以有一些不一樣的想法？ |
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0.846 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T10:02:58.800000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:03:41.354000+08:00 |
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這筆錢可以直接用在部落裡面、用在什麼地方，他去認養偏鄉職校的設備，或提供他們帶薪實習等等，把它用在原住民年輕人的就業訓練，甚至現在很多產業、行業裡的一些工作，未來都會被AI、被電腦取代，讓這筆錢可以直接投入在我們年輕人身上，不要再像現在很不切實際，我不知道主委你的看法呢？ |
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0.855 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
羅處長赫踛 |
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2026-05-20T10:03:44.695000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:03:51.858000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告一下，其實我們職業訓練當中，也有針對AI及一些無人機的部分，這些東西我們都有跟著時代去做訓練。 |
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0.792 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T10:03:53.642000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:03:55.744000+08:00 |
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不是，你那個只是課程之一…… |
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0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
羅處長赫踛 |
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2026-05-20T10:03:55.744000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-05-20T10:03:59.327000+08:00 |
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這些課程可以讓他們取得證照。 |
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0 |
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張委員宏陸 |
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2026-05-20T10:03:59.327000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T10:04:19.958000+08:00 |
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我現在意思是，如果未來代金的部分，我們專款專用，直接用到這一塊、用到偏鄉，它可以購買設備或什麼的，甚至也可以跟財政部講，如果我企業沒有辦法請到原住民，我要用代金。 |
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0.903 |
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張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-05-20T10:04:20.098000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-05-20T10:04:41.967000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
現在僱用規定是至少要有1%的原住民，甚至它如果可以多一些代金，它可以double用在我們這個專案上，財政部也可以讓他有一些稅金上的減免，我覺得這樣是不是比較直接？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.893 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-05-20T10:04:42.847000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-05-20T10:04:44.568000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
不然現在這筆錢，坦白講…… |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
羅處長赫踛 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-05-20T10:04:46.268000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-05-20T10:04:50.250000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
跟委員報告一下，這筆代金是納入到我們的就業基金裡，它是針對原住民的就業，也算是專款專用。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.55 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-05-20T10:04:50.250000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-05-20T10:04:52.571000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
我知道，現行是這樣嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-05-20T10:04:53.072000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-05-20T10:05:08.279000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
我的意思是，這筆代金就直接拿出來用在部落上，像我剛剛說的，講句難聽一點，有些部落的學校設備也不好，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.872 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-05-20T10:05:08.279000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-05-20T10:05:14.703000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
他求學的過程就沒有那些設備，你說有AI，他還要去你那邊用電腦，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.935 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-05-20T10:05:14.883000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-05-20T10:05:18.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
我們讓它更直接來培養我們部落的年輕人啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.842 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
曾主任委員智勇 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-05-20T10:05:18.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-05-20T10:05:20.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
就直接用在…… |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-05-20T10:05:20.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-05-20T10:05:21.213000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
這是一個方向嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-05-20T10:05:21.493000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-05-20T10:05:22.673000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
我不知道主委你認不認同？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
曾主任委員智勇 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-05-20T10:05:22.853000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-05-20T10:05:28.155000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
認同，就直接讓更需要的部落來使用。對啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-05-20T10:05:28.915000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-05-20T10:05:33.256000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
這樣我們才能夠訓練我們部落的年輕人，未來他出來時，可以找得到好的工作。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.906 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
曾主任委員智勇 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-05-20T10:05:33.256000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-05-20T10:05:35.156000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
是，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-05-20T10:05:35.156000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-05-20T10:05:37.697000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
是不是可以朝這個方向思考看看？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
曾主任委員智勇 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-05-20T10:05:38.057000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-05-20T10:05:39.177000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
我們會朝這個方向來做。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
張委員宏陸 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-05-20T10:05:40.258000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-05-20T10:05:40.278000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
好，謝謝。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-05-20T10:05:40.778000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-05-20T10:05:44.492286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
下一位請王鴻薇委員發言質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0 |