| IVOD_ID |
169458 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169458 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-20T09:57:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-20T10:05:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e8e93c7ebde79bae7953f59a74e67ddd3847d5ba5f4714201cbc05507f2af63478b37549b5781d025ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:57:29 - 10:05:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：邀請原住民族委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會董事長與財團法人原住民族語言研究發展基金會董事長列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形) ，並備質詢。） |
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我請主委好 主委請張委員好主委我們平埔族身份法這個也已經有通過了那我想請問一下現在我們平埔族的成員相互所辦理登記的這個開始了嗎?還沒有行政院合併之後就可以開始了行政院合併之後馬上就可以開始了 |
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目前已經送行政院了那跟戶政事務所這邊呢我們有沒有聯繫我們 |
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跟地方政府的這個副鎮事務所也協調過了都協調過了告訴他們未來的登記又怎麼做怎麼做協調過是一件事我想請教的是那你們協調的具體內容現在第一線的副鎮事務所他都可以很清楚的知道如果來他怎麼辦嗎 |
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跟委員報告那這個部分是兩個區塊一個是民族成員身份登記的部分這裡已經都跟地方原民機關跟民政機關協調處理完畢SOP表單等都已經完備另外在護證人員登記評估原住民身份的部分我們也跟內政部共同規劃好了登記的作業的SOP表單以及相關的事項均已發給各地方政府的民政局向下傳遞給護證人員來做接續的辦理 |
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所以你的意思就是說護證人員都很清楚了因為現在平埔原住民身份登記的一些基本程序跟現在原住民的身份登記程序基本上是完全接近的所以護證人員已經非常的熟悉山地原住民跟平地原住民登記的作業所以平埔原住民只是一個選項上的不同作業登記上面的話不會有太大的困難 |
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現在平原三原是他的身份非常確定那你平埔族的身份我想喔可能你們園民會是比較清楚他的身份如何認證那你第一線的護真人員我不認為他可以像三原平原這樣子非常清楚的認證喔 |
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那我想這個我們會持續跟這個地方政府我們就是做第一次第二次繼續的來再還沒有開始可以登記以前我們再多幾次一定要貫徹到特別是副鎮書所第一線的人員要能夠清除我覺得啦你們要多幾次互相跨部會的協調這是一個另外 |
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用幾個例子 用幾個什麼 讓第一線的副鎮人員能夠很清楚的知道啊對不對 你都講SOP SOP 但有很多的例子啊 他可能不在你們的SOP裡面 有什麼我覺得是要用實際的例子 讓副鎮人員大家互相去溝通 去協調一下我覺得這樣子到時候才不會啊 你 |
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人家去到那邊,按你身份的護證人員第一線也可能沒有了解那麼清楚,這可能會造成延宕的很多問題喔,你們有沒有考慮到這個?我們齁,就是說在跟這個地方政府在做說明的時候,我們也會 |
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有幾個案例把實際的案例拿出來再做說明可能仍然還是不過就看有時候碰到問題了才知道也許才會更有一些比較特殊的是碰到了我們一樣會來協助來處理對啦 主委我就是怕你們有特殊的你碰到到時候在那邊他說他是啦 護正人員又要找你們這些我覺得都可以事先去做的 |
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都可以事先去做的去預防的啦好不好不然我覺得這有可能啊這個量啊會很大喔好另外啦齁這個啊齁原住民主工作權保障法裡面有殆金啊這個部分啦齁主委 |
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現在啊,很多的企業啊,他其實啊,他有時候想要找原住民的員工啊,他其實他不一定找得到是不是啊?是對啊,那他不一定找得到,他要用代金要用什麼,那其實這是一個變通的辦法那主委啊,繳了代金之後啊,那錢怎麼用啊?這個錢怎麼用? |
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跟委員報告就是我們就待經南海之後我們有包含是請就位服務員然後做一些相關職業訓練 |
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那個提供就業等等的一些相關方案都是在用這筆錢我知道啦這些東西好像有啦但又好像很空洞啦又好像很不切實際啦這筆錢啊就沒有很直接用在需要的地方主委這個貸金的部分我們以後可不可以有一些不一樣的想法 |
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這筆錢我們直接用在部落裡面用在什麼他去認養偏鄉的職校的設備或提供他們那個帶薪、實習等等的我們把它用在原住民真的年輕人這個就業的訓練然後甚至現在很多產業很多行業裡面的一些工作未來 |
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都會被AI電腦取代我們用這筆錢直接讓我們的年輕人可以直接去用不要再像現在很不切實際我不知道主委你的看法我們的職業訓練當中其實也有針對AI的部分還有一些無人機的部分這些東西我們都有跟著時代來去做一個訓練 |
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你那個只是課程之一啦我現在的意思就是說我現在意思就是說如果未來這個貸金的部分我們專款專用直接是用到這一塊直接用到偏鄉他可以用設備或什麼甚至也可以跟財政部講我如果企業我沒有辦法請到原住民我要用貸金那如果 |
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我們的貸金現在是規定是我們現在是規定至少要1%的這個這個原住民嘛那甚至他如果他可以多一些貸金他可以double或什麼用在我們這個專案上或什麼的財政部也可以讓他在一些稅金的減免我覺得這樣子是不是比較直接不然這筆錢現在給我坦白講現在我們貸金是納入到我們的就業基金裡面來 |
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他是針對原住民的就業我知道啦 現行是這樣嘛那我的意思是說代金你就把他直接這筆錢直接拿出來直接就用在部落上啊像我剛剛說的啊有些部落講句難聽一點的學校設備也不好對不對 他在求學的過程就沒有那些設備你說你的AI他還要去你那邊有電腦啊對不對那我們讓他更直接 |
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培養我們部落的年輕人這是一個方向嘛我不知道主委你認不認同認同就直接讓更需要的部落就直接來使用這樣對啊這樣我們才能夠訓練我們部落的年輕人未來他出來找得到好的工作啊是不是可以朝這個方向來看看我們來朝這個方向來做好 謝謝 |