| IVOD_ID |
169455 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169455 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-20T09:30:53+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-20T09:38:04+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e8e93c7ebde79baead59a3058cbbda713847d5ba5f4714201cbc05507f2af6348618b4638536ef0d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
廖先翔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:30:53 - 09:38:04 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：邀請原住民族委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會董事長與財團法人原住民族語言研究發展基金會董事長列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形) ，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席,麻煩邀請我們的主委 |
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六元好主委好我以前在新北市議會有一個朋友叫馬建議員我們族人應該大家蠻熟悉的那在今年五月初的時候他在臉書發了一篇文章嘛是有關獵人的就是我們今天業務報告有提到的原住民族自製獵槍的安全使用的一個訓練那他針對這個訓練 |
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原民會的開辦可能有一些意見我們後來原民會也有發新聞稿說是今年的總運算還沒有通過我想先請問一下主委去年有辦過相關的課程嗎去年有辦過兩場去年有辦過嗎那今年到目前為止呢 |
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近年 最近的話是辦過一場就是種子教師的今年就只有一場嘛 反而說大家都知道總預算有延續性的 例行性的經常門都是可以繼續的來使用那你說總預算沒過其實我還確定你去年的預算規模是多少 今年的預算規模是多少那至少你到今年為止還辦不到去年的場次那就代表說我們在執行率上面不是因為總預算可能你 |
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這個超額的部分你沒辦法使用那我想請問主委啊就是在相關的訓練上面反正有一些原住民的朋友提出這樣子的一個討論那請主委看能不能在這個場合那針對這一項的訓練來跟一些原住民族的好朋友來說明一下未來我們原住這個相關的一個訓練一些一些課程他大概會怎麼規劃那大概今年的場次 |
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會有多少那會不會有大家報名不了的情況發生好謝謝委員的指教我想這個自製列槍的這個安全訓練他本來就比較高的這個危險性那必須要找合格的靶場來進行實彈的訓練但是沒有關係我們在今年的部分在我們 |
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在這個5月底就會上網我們7月開始就是接受辦理就是報名那8月開課我們今年預計在北中南東我們會辦理40場次的這個訓練每一堂課最少要30個人最多50個人我們預計今年度至少可以培訓到1200個人取得合格的證書 |
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然後讓族人向內政部警政署來合法申請使用列槍這是我們的目標所以今天的目標1200人次那從這個月底現在已經期中下旬了月底才開始報名那如果說未來有報名相關的一些問題的話再看請主委這邊來協助那場地的部分請問都已經剛剛講北中南東 |
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東的市區的場地都已經跟地方政府或者是其他單位接接好了嗎?申請的這個,比如說縣市政府他申請,那我們就會去看他要在哪裡辦理這樣的一個現在目前所有的場地都已經先找好了嗎?還是說我們先開放報名,然後場次可能有些還在洽詢當中? |
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我們預定的這個靶場也都已經在洽行當中了因為這個不容易啦因為這個真的是要實彈的這個設計不是有的時候不是縣市政府就能夠來找得到這個場地我們還要拜託像國防部之類的這樣有一些場地這個還是要比較嚴謹所以稍微我們就是會比較所以都有大概有預定的場地但是並不是每一個場地都已經完成了這個合約的簽訂對對都有預定 |
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對 預定場地然後就是說整個他申請的時候我們才要跟他做這個因為這個可能是很多原住民的朋友都會關心的問題我想這也不單純是原住我們原民會自己就能夠完成的事情還是需要其他單位的配合那需要其他單位配合的時候也請我們原住那個原民會主動的跟無論是在地方政府就請在地的議員幫忙嘛中央的單位就請我們很多原住民的委員來協助盡快讓這件事情能夠落實啦好 原民會 |
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那接下來這是這個原住民族文化的一個保留啦那當然一直以來我們這個政府都有在努力在做但一個文化的保留我舉另外一個例子好了地方創生好了 國發會的地方創生他們現在從單純的政府的補助慢慢的要去輔導業者他能夠自力更生那我想原住民的文化保留如果說一直以來都只靠政府的經負位挹注的話 |
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我認為他可能只會越來越萎縮那或許他應該要結合其他的一些商業活動讓他能夠自力更生或是來做文化的一個宣傳我想請問一下我們原民會有沒有跟國防署有過相關的合作讓我們的原民的文化變成一個台灣知名的這個觀光的推展的一個亮點好 |
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我們自己會裡面整個台灣我們差不多也有整理大概28條的經典路線那我們也跟交通部的觀光局來合作因為我們這些路線是跟平地的一般路線是不太一樣的那我們就是必須就是說有一些還要再更精進的部分當然也需要他們來協助幫我們行銷啦 |
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我想這個部分或許是過去我認為原住民或許你們有做但是可能我看到的比較少的部分就是其實像台灣一直以來可能就是停燈的文化或者是外國那個泰國還有放水燈等等這些我覺得相關的文化的傳承跟推廣那他或許適度的來跟商業或是觀光 |
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行為來結合的話那會讓他們更有這個保存下去的無論是動力或者是資源而不是單一仰賴政府的補助尤其是政府的單一補助常常會就像我們原民會一個組委你就是可能一組或甚至可能兩三組的一個身份而已但是原住民的組委有非常多組的我們沒辦法期待一個政府他能夠做到包山包海而是希望期待所有的原住民的文化他如果能夠 |
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395.626 |
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自主有自力更生自主的去把文化保存下來我想這個是最好的一個目標那當然我們政府就從旁來做一些輔助啦那也希望說未來再跟國防署方面的一個借接無論是國內的旅遊宣傳或是國外的旅遊宣傳跟航空公司可能他們飛機都有一些小屏幕嘛來對一些原住民的文化的一個推廣那我想對原住民的文化保存 |
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會更有力道 多管齊一下以上給原民會一些建議 謝謝 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
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2026-05-20T09:30:56.516000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:30:58.005000+08:00 |
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謝謝主席，麻煩邀請曾主委。 |
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0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[1].speaker |
曾主任委員智勇 |
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2026-05-20T09:30:58.005000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-05-20T09:31:05.318000+08:00 |
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廖委員好。 |
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0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
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2026-05-20T09:31:05.318000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:31:05.498000+08:00 |
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主委好。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-05-20T09:31:06.298000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:31:13.804000+08:00 |
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我以前在新北市議會有一個朋友叫馬見Lahuy．Ipin議員，族人應該滿熟悉的。是。 |
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0.658 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
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2026-05-20T09:31:15.045000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:31:39.400000+08:00 |
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大概在今年5月初的時候，他在臉書發了一篇文章是有關獵人，就是我們今天業務報告提到原住民族自製獵槍安全使用的訓練，他針對原民會開辦這個訓練可能有一些意見，後來原民會也有發新聞稿說今年的總預算還沒有通過。 |
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0.915 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
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2026-05-20T09:31:39.400000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:31:42.541000+08:00 |
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我想先請問一下主委，去年有辦過相關的課程嗎？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
曾主任委員智勇 |
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2026-05-20T09:31:42.541000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:31:42.601000+08:00 |
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去年有辦過兩場。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
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2026-05-20T09:31:42.601000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:31:43.182000+08:00 |
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去年有辦過，那今年到目前為止呢？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
曾主任委員智勇 |
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2026-05-20T09:31:54.573000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:31:56.735000+08:00 |
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最近是有辦過一場，就是有關種子教師的。 |
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0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
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2026-05-20T09:31:57.435000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-05-20T09:31:58.015000+08:00 |
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今年就只有一場？對。 |
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0.875 |
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廖委員先翔 |
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2026-05-20T09:31:59.376000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:32:05.119000+08:00 |
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大家都知道總預算是有延續性、例行性的經常門，都是可以繼續使用的。對。 |
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0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
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2026-05-20T09:32:06.620000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:32:23.650000+08:00 |
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你說總預算沒過，其實我不太確定你去年的預算規模是多少、今年的預算規模是多少，但至少到今年為止，你還辦不到去年的場次，就代表在執行率上面不是因為總預算可能超額的部分你沒辦法使用。 |
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0.951 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
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2026-05-20T09:32:25.131000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:32:51.913000+08:00 |
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我想請問主委，在相關的訓練上，因為有一些原住民朋友提出這樣的討論，請主委看看能不能在這個場合，針對這一項訓練，跟一些原住民族好朋友說明一下，包括未來原住民相關一些訓練課程大概會怎麼規劃、大概今年的場次有多少、會不會有大家報名不了的情況發生等等？ |
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0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
曾主任委員智勇 |
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2026-05-20T09:32:53.455000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:33:37.915000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝委員的指教，我想自製獵槍的安全訓練，本來就有比較高的危險性，必須要找合格的靶場來進行實彈的訓練，但是沒有關係，我們今年5月底就會上網，7月開始接受報名，8月開課，今年預計在北、中、南、東會辦理40場次的訓練，每一堂課最少要有30個人，最多50個人，我們預計今年度至少可以培訓到1,200個人取得合格的證書，讓族人可以向內政部警政署來合法申請使用獵槍，這是我們的目標。 |
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0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
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2026-05-20T09:33:37.915000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:33:44.078000+08:00 |
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好，所以今年的目標是1,200人次，從這個月底開始報名。對。好。 |
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0.739 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-05-20T09:33:45.799000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:33:51.021000+08:00 |
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如果未來報名上有相關問題的話，再請主委來協助。 |
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0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-05-20T09:33:51.421000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:34:01.266000+08:00 |
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至於場地的部分，剛剛講到北、中、南、東區的場地，都已經跟地方政府或者是其他單位接洽好了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
曾主任委員智勇 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-05-20T09:34:01.266000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:34:09.250000+08:00 |
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申請的部分，比如縣市政府提出申請，我們就會去看他要在哪裡辦理這樣的訓練。 |
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0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-05-20T09:34:09.890000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:34:12.731000+08:00 |
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所以目前所有場次的場地都已經先找好了？ |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-05-20T09:34:13.111000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:34:16.473000+08:00 |
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還是先開放報名，有些場次可能還在洽詢當中？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
曾主任委員智勇 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-05-20T09:34:19.365000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:34:41.049000+08:00 |
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我們預定的靶場也已經在洽詢當中了，因為這個不太容易，真的是要實彈的射擊，有的時候不是縣市政府就能夠找到場地，我們還要拜託像國防部之類的提供這樣的場地，這個部分還是要比較嚴謹，所以可能稍微比較…… |
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0.876 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-05-20T09:34:41.049000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:34:45.890000+08:00 |
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所以大概都有預訂的場地，但並不是每個場地都已經完成了合約的簽訂？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
曾主任委員智勇 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-05-20T09:34:45.890000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:34:53.861000+08:00 |
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都有預訂場地，他在申請的時候，我們才會跟他做…… |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.85 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
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2026-05-20T09:34:55.202000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:35:16.536000+08:00 |
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好，沒關係，因為這個部分可能是很多原住民朋友都會關心的問題，也不單純是原民會自己就能夠完成的事情，還是需要其他單位的配合，所以需要其他單位配合的時候，也請原民會主動，不論是請地方政府或是請在地的議員幫忙，或是請原住民委員協助，儘快讓這件事情能夠落實。好。 |
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0.871 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-05-20T09:35:17.677000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:35:39.131000+08:00 |
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接下來關於原住民族文化的保留，一直以來我們政府都有努力在做，但一個文化的保留，我舉另外一個例子，像國發會的地方創生，從單純的政府補助，現在要慢慢改為輔導業者能夠自力更生。 |
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0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-05-20T09:35:40.132000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:35:57.843000+08:00 |
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原住民的文化保留，如果一直以來都只靠政府經費挹注的話，我認為它可能只會越來越萎縮，或許應該要結合其他一些商業活動，讓它能夠自力更生，或者是來做一些文化的宣傳。 |
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0.918 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-05-20T09:35:57.843000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:36:10.970000+08:00 |
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我想請問一下，原民會跟觀光署是否有過相關的合作，讓我們原民文化變成臺灣知名的、觀光推展的亮點？ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.907 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
曾主任委員智勇 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-05-20T09:36:13.975000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:36:34.030000+08:00 |
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原民會就整個臺灣差不多整理出了28條的經典路線，我們也會跟交通部觀光署合作，因為這些路線跟平地一般路線是不太一樣的，所以有一些還要有更精進的部分，當然也需要他們協助幫我們行銷。 |
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0.877 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-05-20T09:36:36.252000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:37:55.861000+08:00 |
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我想這個部分，或許過去你們有做，但是可能我看到的比較少，臺灣一直以來可能有天燈的文化，或是泰國放水燈等等這些文化，我覺得相關文化的傳承跟推廣，或許適度的跟商業或是觀光行為做結合的話，會讓他們更有保存下去的動力或者是資源，而不是單一仰賴政府的補助，尤其是政府的單一補助，像原民會主委可能是具有一族甚至可能有兩、三族的身分而已，但是原住民有非常多族，我們沒辦法期待一個政府能夠做到包山包海，而是希望、期待所有的原住民文化，如果能夠自主、自力更生，自主的去把文化保存下來，我想這是最好的目標，當然我們政府也可以從旁做一些輔助，也希望未來跟觀光署能有一個介接，無論是國內的旅遊宣傳或是國外的旅遊宣傳，還有跟航空公司方面，像在他們的飛機上可能都會有一些小品、小物來做一些原住民文化的推廣，我想對於原住民文化的保存會更有力道。 |
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0.876 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
廖委員先翔 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-05-20T09:37:56.522000+08:00 |
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2026-05-20T09:37:59.147000+08:00 |
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總之，多管齊下，以上給原民會一些建議，謝謝。 |
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0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
曾主任委員智勇 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-05-20T09:37:59.647000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-05-20T09:38:00.789857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
謝謝委員。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-05-20T09:38:01.089857+08:00 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-05-20T09:38:02.804143+08:00 |
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請王美惠委員。 |
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0 |