| IVOD_ID |
169376 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169376 |
| 日期 |
2026-05-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第9次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第9次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-05-12T14:30:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-05-12T14:45:59+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:31 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0cec772f6559b9e494ec31f306b7f9a1c095463f94dab4fdd817488d83a1324c470cdfe8d0499ff35ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
顏寬恒 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:30:28 - 14:45:59 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-05-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第9次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「醫療法第十二條、第一百零二條及第一百零二條之一條文修正草案」，請審議案；本院委員蘇清泉等28人擬具「醫療法第十二條條文修正草案」，請審議案；本院委員羅廷瑋等17人擬具「醫療法第十二條及第一百零二條條文修正草案」，請審議案等2案。二、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。三、5月8日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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首先第一位請嚴委員寬恒諮詢主席各位列席官員大家好主席有請行政院卓院長請卓院長備詢 |
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院長不曉得前一陣子你有沒有看過一則新聞是這個台中市長盧秀燕在市政質詢的時候回覆議員表示不同意台中海線輕軌用這個用輕軌來代替捷運台中市未來不會有輕軌的計畫院長你認不認同盧市長這樣的說法 |
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抱歉我倒沒有注意到這個內容相關的內容市長是在施政質詢的時候一言問他說海線從這個青城鋼機場到清水這一段這個有規劃要用輕軌但是市長已經在會議當中就直接表明說台中市未來不會有 |
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所以這部分說未來如果計畫到了中央還請院長來協助台中市的一個捷運的一個規劃來核定來協助台中市所以院長你願不願意來協助台中市政府的意見是要用什麼樣的方式就是用我們就是要不同意用這個輕軌來取代取代捷運所以是全線都是捷運 |
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我會請交通部來進一步的研究看怎麼樣有助於地方的發展跟實際上的需求運量等等的需求我再跟院長討論的就是台中市目前的捷運路網現在規劃已經成型藍線橘線都是海線通往市區的一個重要的捷運路線那尤其是客宮軸線 |
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就是串聯屯區、銜接藍線、橘線、綠線的重要路線未來搭配海線的鐵路雙軌高架就能夠形成海線的一個公共運輸路網 |
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柯公軸線這條路線非常特別它銜接高田跟台中機場對於整個台中機場的運量以及未來旅客願意選擇從台中機場出發的意願一定會大大的提升所以現在台中市已經是全台人口第二多的城市那捷運路線要能夠成為路網才能夠讓旅客乘車的意願能夠提高 |
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那台中市現在多管齊下包含菊縣、蘭縣延伸屯區環狀縣還有我們豐園、崇德縣都還在可行性評估的階段我想院長在這部分多多的協助來支持台中市政府讓台中的這些捷運路網可以盡速的來核定那我們在114年9月26日交通部提送這個捷運菊縣的案子提送促餐平台審議完成 |
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符合免送促餐審議條件又交通部115年2月2日再度核轉行政院審議所以院長這個案子已經在你的桌上是不是能夠請院長能夠同意此案讓台中捷運局限能夠盡速的核定院長這部分可不可以請你回答 |
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局縣的部分再請市長說明一下我跟委員說明一下因為局縣這裡有特別提到要送初餐的一個平台這是因為初餐的一個機制那完了以後報請行政院來核定那行政院核定的過程裡面當然行政院會有相關的一個審查那審查的一個依照審查的一個結果才會簽報行政院來核定 |
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所以現在應該是在這樣一個程序之中所以才請院長說能不能加快施程因為整個路網台中捷運的系統如果核定之後包含由我們的屯區捷運跟捷運綠線串聯成為一個環狀路網能夠向外輻射發展擴大服務範圍也能夠連同周邊的公共運輸串聯到中部其他包括彰化南投 |
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兩個縣市讓整個交通環境可以大幅度的改善所以這個一定要請中央鼎力相助可以嗎 院長好 我會把這個案子再仔細的請院裡面來評估那做一個適當的解決 |
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那我再延續前面的議題台中市現在的捷運路線多半都是依靠台鐵的路線來規劃那以台鐵的路線形成最外圍的一個大環線所以未來台鐵也是台中捷運路網串聯最重要的一環但是我現在擔心的是我們 |
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台中大慶烏日高架化還有鐵路海線雙軌高架段這兩個案子從我2013年擔任立委到現在已經13年了那不斷的討論從最新的是115年3月6日交通部又交給鐵道局做審查這13年我想 |
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今天部長沒有來本來要問陳部長但是因為他請假了那陳部長上任到現在也20個月了那過去市府鐵道局交通部行政院國發會來來回回公文完環不知道幾十次了數都數不完所以我想要請教院長要請教院長這個案子到底是技術上有困難用地無法取得還是經費分攤有問題又或者是 |
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有其他特殊的政治因素院長你可不可以告訴我為什麼只有這一段沒辦法執行海線雙軌高架化的這個路段目前應該有一二三四五個問題存在那行政院已經請交通部再把這個審查的結果請市政府再做修正之後再報我說來來回回好幾次的修正我跟院長報告最近一次最近一月份除了海線雙軌高架之外 |
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我們高鐵站就是高鐵新烏日 鐵路新烏日站到大慶站這一段最短的距離在2013年到現在從當初的50億到現在的上百億這13年都擱置在這裡 |
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我現在如果是回台北 回去台中尤其到五日每一天回到選區 民眾就直接問我為什麼不做 為什麼其他的地方高價都做了為什麼只有大慶到烏日 難道這裡沒有迫切嗎現在時間一天 現在八時 民眾都直接跟我講大白話直接問我說 是不是因為立場不同 |
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是不是因為立場不同所以不做我們還有部長所以現在本來認為說部長來自於烏日而且他每天台中台北往返他也是住在烏日只有烏日這一段沒辦法做所以我想這個是 |
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對地方的交通建設我們的立場都是一致的立場一致但是問題是落後啊台中市很多的狀況出現我們也是全力下去協助這件事當然是我是剛剛跟委員報告一月份行政院函已經請交通部給市府重新在依修正函裡面再去做修正審查意見再修正那三月份也已經在進行程序當中 |
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如果這個可以通過對於整個台中海線屯區 |
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未來整體的交通問題一定大有改善交通部是不是已經在審查市府送來的修正意見來來往往好幾次了修改很多次了我想再請教有關高鐵娛樂城大家知道現在是最大的開發案 |
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那我這邊有收到115年2月4號專案小組的會議紀錄希望未來如果有開會都能夠繼續的將會議紀錄提供給本席辦公室在紀錄裡面我看到交通部一年所提出的問題標題是有關省道快速公路增設交流道申請審核作業要點是否適用於既有雜道之改善拓寬 |
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這個經營跟閘道的問題不管是在歷次的質詢或者考察會議當中都明確的要求中央要針對高鐵魚的整個周邊國道、閘道、交流道的改善或台清四線快速道路閘道優化不管到時候明年2028年全面 |
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這個開放的時候 當高鐵漁樂城開幕的時候 藍萊培網還有在地龐大的車流如果你只靠目前的平民待遇改善 到時候整個交通一定完蛋了 |
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未來的車流人流是現在的數倍是現在的數倍那我想必須要搭配我前面所提到的這些方案我想要請教院長說2024年10月也是在這個位置我們在總執行的時候你允諾說要成立高鐵漁樂城專案小組到現在已經一年半了這個漁樂小組專案小組成立已經一年半了這個最基本的法規問題到現在都還沒有釐清所以要請教說院長 |
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這樣子的效率你能接受嗎 |
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我來說明一下我跟委員說明有關院長指示要成立這個平台來協調這部分呢目前是由我們鐵道局在辦理那相關的一個會議也好或協調事項在那裡頭大概都有所討論那剛才委員特別提到娛樂城開發完成以後周邊的這樣相關的一個交通的議題我們的了解是這個開發商就是高鐵特定區的開發商 |
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大概有補助700萬給台中市政府做相關的一個規劃那規劃完了以後的結果當然有短中長期的改善方案委員剛才一直很關心的大概是屬於中期或長期有關如何跟台七四相連接或者是在高速公路是不是有偵測交流道的可能我想這個在這個跨平台的會議裡頭會繼續討論然後後續有比較可行的方案會據以執行來 院長 |
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次長這個是就是我們提到的專案小組第四次會議第四次會議裡面他怎麼講他說你們這裡面怎麼提到的你們法規還沒釐清到現在法規還沒釐清然後呢 |
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鐵道局希望周邊的道路路線可以完善鐵道局當然希望啊因為他是主要的受益者嘛對不對高速公路局希望你們都不要來動到我國道的穿越相含不然會妨礙到我以後的拓寬那公路局說這個東西我們沒有錢可以補助啦台信事線要銜接高鐵站二樓平台是地方政府的事情 |
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所以院長、次長你們回去看看你們這份專案小組的會議內容好不好看一下這裡面多離譜啦我想 |
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現在最大的危機就是我們交通部陳部長他現在面臨的危機是說全部都是交通部的下屬所管轄的包括鐵道局、高工局、公路局整個案子是鐵道局的出差案然後要設閘道、要穿越高速公路相含要新增這個交流道也都是高工局管轄 |
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然後74號聯外道路要銜接高鐵的二樓的平台這個是高工局管轄沒有一個是地方政府的事情可是奶隊各局處互相踢皮球沒有一個人願意出來整合出來統合所以我在想這裡是不是請院長來指示我們交通部就責成我們的次長來做這個案子的負責人 |
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能夠有效的迅速的在法規能夠統合然後呢 未來的計畫能夠有專業再透過這個專業小組把這些事情全部的釐清 可以嗎 院長好 當然既然都是交通部的所轄的單位 我們公路局高工局或是高鐵 那應該 |
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布裡面就能夠解決這個問題請次長跟部長回報以後是不是由次長您來主動來調 協調這個事情是是那再請部長來做決定對所以今天院長有一個正面的回應就是說願意請交通部請交通部部長同意由我們的陳正事出來來主持這一次的未來專案小組的會議以及所有這包括鐵道局高工局還有我們公路局就針對 |
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高鐵特區相關新增交流道閘道的改善所有的這些這些工程的設計跟未來的一個法規的一個促進還有未來怎麼樣跟地方政府台中市政府協助的部分全部都交給我們政事次長來協助可以嗎我請政事來各個單位交通所屬各個單位來釐清當中所互相目前還沒有解決的困難那最後請部長來做最終的決定 |
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因為我們現在未來鐵路高價除了海線雙軌高價之外現在人口最稠密的地區然後碰到如果鐵路因為烏日區鐵路位高價的話他整個在 |
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烏日里跟九德里人口超過4萬人的這一個一個狹窗停行的一個地帶如果每次遭逢這個這個瞬間雨量大的時候他的這個下水道就是地下穿越道都會淹水已經造成無數次很多的這一次的這樣子的一些傷亡那所以經由我們的一個鐵路高架能夠徹底的改善這個不管是交通的問題安全的問題所以這個部分還在這邊還是要請院長來協助 |
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就烏日大慶烏日站鐵路高架的部分能夠先來先行核定可以嗎謝謝委員今天的提醒我請交通部來加強化他的這個效率把這個事情做一個解決好的好謝謝好謝謝委員好謝謝閻委員下一位我們請黃裕祥委員質詢 |