| IVOD_ID |
169052 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169052 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-30T10:45:42+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-30T10:52:30+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:48 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b51b6e95b687bd8eab1919b5590a295e4094fdde23d63da599070a33b65dc58b315cf85df7fa038c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:45:42 - 10:52:30 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-30T10:10:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：一、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院歲入預算第5款第1項第2目暨國家發展委員會及所屬單位預算部分。
二、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於行政院主管：行政院國家發展基金、離島建設基金、花東地區永續發展基金及促進轉型正義基金。(詢答)
【4月29日及4月30日二天一次會】） |
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主席、在黨委員、先進、列席政務、經濟組長、官員、會長、工作夥伴、媒體之類的女士先生,有請葉主委。國務院主委。國務院長。主委好。主委你今天又上報了,你知道嗎?今天的工商時報,它說葉俊賢說,能源韌性,攸關國家安全。怎麼說? |
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因為能源的開發對於我們整個國家經濟發展來講非常重要,尤其是這一波的AI的一個量。是的,我完全認同。所以你看,現在下一頁,我們的能源韌性是全社會防衛最迫切的課題,對不對?我們有一個全社會防衛的韌性課題,有五大課題嘛。所以這個能源及關鍵基礎設施是其中一個。 |
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那另外一個,我認為跟國發會比較有關聯的,像資通跟運輸安全的韌性,你覺得目前我們國外掌控的中長城計畫,有哪些支持資通運輸韌性?委員這個部分,可不可以麻煩我同時回答一下,這個部分比較細節一點。 |
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哪一位 我繼續往下看 他繼續來我繼續講其實能源韌性有10年的強化電網計畫我們在台電的10年分配了5645億分配了這麼多但是我們說的資通韌性當中我非常強調的是光纖跟海纜以及太空跟衛星 您同意嗎 |
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如果我們的資通安全韌性包括光纖海纜和太空級衛星 |
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完全同意 因為這個分成水下 陸上還有那個天羅地網就對了 好 我們往下看但是我多次啊在其他不同委員會問過九次甚至其中一次在院會針對海嵐或光纖跟海嵐因此我們發現最近的光纖海嵐在海裡面的海嵐常常被偷割斷那我們陸上的光纖只有西部幹線有島上我們東部還沒有配置 你知道嗎好 往下看 |
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好 所以我們提到了除了陸上的光纖跟地下的海纜之外呢低軌衛星是我們自動任性的最後防線目前我們台灣有四個海纜的上岸點一個是在仿山我的故鄉屏東一個在北部的巴黎淡水跟頭城您覺得這樣的四個上岸點的海纜是不是很容易被破壞跟切斷 |
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是所以那時候我就主張要一個資訊港可能設在大武這個地方能夠作為我們台灣強化資通韌性的一個資訊港您覺得有道理嗎我們這個可以來試好但是除了之外呢我們目前是不是有一個太空中心它有一個發射站放在哪裡放在那個九棚嘛放在九棚所以這個低軌衛星也是支撐我們天羅當中資通韌性的一個很重要的所以我稱它為資訊港而太空港往下看 |
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所以針對太空港跟資訊港我分別也問過了五次那我就要請教一下 如果您認同這樣的資訊港跟太空港是我們資安、資通安全、韌性的一個很重要的環節你認為目前所配置的這些地方 未來要建設的地方我們會不會考察它是不是聯外交通是否完善 對不對它的陸運交通它是不是能夠支應衛星發射火箭的這些裝備的運送需求 |
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對不對那如果說路上的不能運因為進行的太大他可能要海運他要來運透過海運的港口來運送請問主委你認為如果我們要建置一個資通韌性的太空港跟資訊港在東部是否這要一併考慮進去 |
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我覺得是好那我們就來看一下那既然是這樣子我們看看目前我們國家在資通任性上已有的計畫我看到就一個就是國家太空科技發展長城計畫第三期108到11710年編列了250億要精進任務精進技術挑戰任務培育人才還要建立產業鏈好你覺得這樣夠嗎 |
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我覺得可能可以加公共建設啦公共建設基礎建設那這個公共建設要由我們貴會哪個部門來主政呢由國科會這個部分這是國科會那基礎建設怎麼是國科會要哪些基礎建設要不要聯外交通要不要海運要不要陸運的設施因為國科會會提報那個公共建設的那一個計畫然後我們會審那從後你們哪裡來審 |
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送到我們這邊那他目前有一個國家發射場域設置中...那只有發射場域是不夠的我們講的是包括要培育人才對不對要挑戰任務要有精進技術還要堅持產業鏈好往下看 |
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其實我來看的呢 知通任性的中長程計畫台灣的天羅地網 光纖海欄還有我們的低軌衛星它需要去考慮到包括從高雄到屏東往到台東這些地方太空中心不是只是一群人在那邊試射科研火箭而已太空港的建制它需要 |
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很多龐大的設備它需要道路運輸更大的它需要海運運輸那經濟部這邊要負責製造交通部這邊要去佈建這些交通設施那國發會是不是要來統籌還是你認為是國科會我們我們應該可以負責所謂的管考啦你們是負責管考對好那如果是負責管考那很好那麼今天我就往下看了所以說目前有沒有一個資通訊的中長程計畫在你們管考當中這個部分資通認訊有沒有 |
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我剛剛講的都是資通韌性喔你說能源韌性很重要啊工商時報今天給你貼了一個很大的全版啊那請問資通韌性的有沒有中長程計畫在目前國發會管考跟委員報告喔管考分成三級喔 在院管制的部分我是問有沒有嘛 你告訴我在你們這邊有沒有這個我們要查一下要查一下 很好 我給你時間查喔我這裡面希望你們這個資通韌性的中長程計畫當中應該把我剛剛所說的低軌衛星的太空港 |
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跟它相貴的產業鏈還有我們的資訊港光鮮跟海嵐它所上岸的地點以及呢它所要建立的海陸交通和零組件的產業鏈這個預算規模你可以參考一下強化電網鏈性的10年5500億然後呢您什麼時候可以給我一個這樣的一個擬案下一頁我們三個月各位別有猜中了我助理姐一格有說可能要三個月好啦 就給你三個月謝謝主委 謝謝主席謝謝 謝謝委員主席可以有精準啦 |
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這個令我覺得非常意外非常精準謝謝鍾佳斌委員的確非常精準來 下一位質詢 |