| IVOD_ID |
169031 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169031 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-30T11:42:40+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-30T11:52:35+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:55 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b51b6e95b687bd8e915c9930f8c1aa924094fdde23d63da523be77335660865b7b10ae65e3cca9285ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:42:40 - 11:52:35 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-30T10:10:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第11次全體委員會議(事由:一、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於行政院歲入預算第5款第1項第2目暨國家發展委員會及所屬單位預算部分。
二、 審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於行政院主管:行政院國家發展基金、離島建設基金、花東地區永續發展基金及促進轉型正義基金。(詢答)
【4月29日及4月30日二天一次會】) |
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下一位是邱志偉 召委謝謝主席 是不是請國會葉主委跟這個國安基金王子密請葉主委 王子密 |
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市長您來國外服務多久了我從9月到現在已經大概7個多月了半年多了國外基金是一個長期的一個重要的方案國外基金投資很多項目你知道有幾個項目嗎有幾個方案 |
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這個應該要很了解因為這個每一個方案都是一百億七個啦有七個百億的基金那我們現在未來會再規劃兩個分數不同部會也有你們直接去控管的投資比方說這個企業直接投資是你們管的嗎 |
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直投市是國會主管的那這個創業天使投資也是你們管的是這兩項是你們管的中小企業加強投資中小企業是你們管的嗎經濟部經濟部 |
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然後策略型製造業 策略型服務業經濟部經濟部 對不對所以你們直接管的是企業投資方案跟所謂的創業天使對 資投跟那個那新加入的包括這個投資文化創業產業實施方案這屬於文化部 是沒有錯嘛你們是出錢另外呢 加強的是AI新創事業實施方案數位發展部 |
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智慧機器人投資方案國科會分屬不可總共有7項加上未來在針對運動產業是運動部還有大健康大健康是屬於衛福部這些計畫裡面他們的這個投資損益最後 |
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是你們來承受還是他們來承受我們雖然你們只控管的是企業投資方案企業投資 企業職業投資跟所謂的創業天使那我剛剛所提到的文化創業產業跟中小企業實施方案分屬不同部門那他們投資績效是你們要去控管還是他們自己負責 |
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以前的話大部分都是部會那我們現在是傾向就是說我們會成立一個投資觀的平台第一個投資要有效益但是不完全是著重於效益要有協助輔導這個產業發展的這個機制不完全一定要獲利為最先思考或優先思考比方說你中小企業比方說策略型服務業跟製造業比方說文化創業產業 |
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他們都缺少資金嘛而且新創事業也是如此這種情況之下你如果完全用這個所謂這個獲利角度去看你會設立很多的門檻你不要忘了初衷是要協助產業的發展好我問幾個關於你們投資方案第一個加強投資重要現實方案這個部分是由你說是由經濟部去主管對不對 |
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好 他們要怎麼投要投哪一家 要投多少錢是經濟部哪一個單位去證書館中企業署中小企業署你看 所有所謂有他們所投資的這些狀況 盈虧情形我想都會送報表給你們吧會好 113年有147家被投資是屬於中小企業署投資有110家發生虧損比例還蠻高的 對不對 |
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然後這個油銀轉虧的也有然後這個虧損傢俱也有這個給你們參考好這個不見得一定要從獲利角度來看但是也不能太離譜是 |
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也有一定的績效 但是不能完全以績效掛帥因為這雙小企業有時候是他在草創的時候 或者資金不夠或會面臨到很多這個經營環境的改變他當然他的風險比較高所以這部分給你們去參考另外這個 |
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怎麼樣跟你們相關的單位去合作比方說經濟部你要怎麼去合作讓這個績效能夠讓這個機制或者績效能夠往好的方向去發展我們現在正在規劃就是說成立一個百億基金的投資管理平台那這個甚至跨部會所以我們會管現在目前至少七個百億基金甚至未來的兩個百億基金投資績效我們先放另外一邊 |
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投資的效率比方說很多中小企業台灣那麼多中小企業他要希望你們去投資但是呢你們投資的時候有時候門檻很高有時候你們設立門檻有時候經濟部設立門檻所以他等不到政府的協助 |
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那你們投的我不曉得這個績效是怎麼樣去做投資的判斷但是這個部分我比較關心的是需要得到政府協助的卻沒有得到政府的協助你們檢討整個機制從這個中小企業來看策略型服務業跟策略型製造業也是如此然後文化創意產業也是如此 |
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特別是文創產業文創產業績效你們框列的一百億有兩期對不對那你要去督促文化部跟文策院他們執行的狀況怎麼樣 |
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他投資效率如果有一家公司去要跟文策院跟文化部去申請投資投資不是補助補助是政府給他錢投資是他要出50政府出50對不對投資有一定的風險但是要重實效這個你要跟相關部會因為錢是你們出的最後責任是要你們承擔 |
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但你要把這個投資的效率重重之外投資的效率也要重重有沒有一個案子申請兩年後還沒核定未來我們會跟文化部就這個部分不只文化部啦所以相關你說未來書發部 國科會經濟部 國科會 書發部都會你要建立一個期限還有環境部也會一個案子送進來要跟相關部會申請投資 |
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好 那你要一定時間線對 好如果一年兩年這個投資的這個效率實在是我覺得政府啊應該是要協助產業對要解決問題你如果一個案子投資兩年他申請兩年都還沒一個結論的話這反而製造更多的問題我們未來的那個投資平台會請他們多多注意這一個部分就是投資時效的部分討論一下這個 |
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你叫K-POP 你知道什麼叫K-POP嗎我知道 韓國的文化韓國流行文化 這就變成全世界那什麼叫T-POP台灣的人家說是泰國的所以你這認知會很混淆反而你問大多數人在國際上T-POP是什麼人家會以為是泰國的所以流行文化的產業鏈這個整個台灣是南韓K-POP第一出口國 |
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一票難求啊秒殺所以這種情況之下你國發經營有投資文化創意產業實施方案就是讓這筆一百億的錢能夠讓台灣成為另外一個這個K-POP的一個成功的方案成功的一個模式讓他們做得到我們也應該做得到啊 |
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所以你不只出錢你要督導相關的單位因為你具有統合的功能國發會的功能就是你能夠統合各部會在執行面能有更好的績效有更好的效率那你們不是光出錢你出錢之後就不理你要看到績效你要看到成果如果你投2期在這個文化創意產業給他投2期100億 |
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你匡列10年你要看他每年投了多少如果每年投了很少代表說你績效不好要不然你就請挖戶來說明為什麼績效不好因為就未來的話我們會對於每一支百億基金的話針對他的盈虧的狀況或是投資的狀況的話不好的話我們會請他到管理委員會來報告你這餅啊做得很好但是分不出去 |
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分不出去受益者得到幫助的產業就或公司或企業就沒有辦法得到政府的這些政策的美意所以你雖然是一個政策的這個規劃者各單位負責執行但是不要忘了錢是國外進出的 |
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國安金是受經濟委員會這邊來審查來監督嘛所以這個錢要花在協助產業然後要有實效我希望說兩百億下去給文化創業產業希望台灣成為另外一個K-POP成功的模範所以我希望你這個近期啊就趕快跟文化部啊召集相關會來檢討這種投資的效率以及這個投資的效果 |
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深圳讓這100億能夠發揮在福祉文化創意產業我今天好像都超時了兩分鐘所以日後我會檢討謝謝主席 |