| IVOD_ID |
169011 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169011 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-30T10:23:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-30T10:37:58+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:13 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b51b6e95b687bd8e93f5c3c298538ef799e0399cb84b22885baa084d0648def023f4da59ad76bcb95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅廷瑋 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:23:45 - 10:37:58 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案有關教育部及所屬單位預算案。
二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案有關直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款教育部主管部分預算。
三、審查115年度中央政府總預算案有關教育部主管47所國立大學校院校務基金、國立臺灣大學附設醫院作業基金、國立成功大學附設醫院作業基金、國立陽明交通大學附設醫院作業基金、教育部所屬機構作業基金、國立高級中等學校校務基金、學產基金、私立高級中等以上學校退場基金附屬單位預算案。
（僅進行詢答，相關預算提案請於5月6日中午12時前提出）【4月29日及30日二天一次會】） |
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來這邊宣布稍後在陳秀寶委員視訊完畢之後休息十分鐘羅廷文委員請好 謝謝主席有請部長有請宗教大校長有請台中科大校長有請中興大校長 |
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有請台中國土館館長請以上各機關代表到備詢台有請台中隊有沒有肉念到的好 請台中隊的各個大學校長到備詢台委員好 |
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部長先跟你請教一下ART完成簽署除美國輸台發亞馬鈴薯放寬標準美國花生也將零關稅來台 |
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來豬來牛恐將也要放寬部長我們很擔心校園食安會不會在ART後被犧牲我要請部長再一次的表態基改食品會不會進校園現在的政策會不會因為ART而簽署以後而鬆動請回答公文報告 |
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無庸置疑我們現在的一個機制就是三張EQ用在地新鮮的食材而且我們有全部這個每一餐都有全部在網頁上全部揭露以台灣目前我們的營養午餐百分百已經都是用本土食品是不管是馬鈴薯不管是花生甚至雞排食品都不可以進入我們現在的 |
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規範這個學校衛生法跟我們營養午餐相關的法令的規範都沒有這樣的一個空間好 沒有空間 這你講的喔那我想未來呢 我再修學校衛生法 |
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也利益良善反正也都跟我們教育部口徑是一致都是以本土為優先都是以我們自己的在地有安全的食安為主為優先我相信學校衛生法在修的時候也不會跟你們的政策有所違背 |
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那我想假設未來ART在其他談判的壓力之下實案的標準真的出現鬆動的時候例如基改禁令被要求調整我是說例如啦部長你打算怎麼辦這委員就是角色性的問題順土不讓你就講嘛 |
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是 基本上我剛才已經講沒有空間嘛以我們現在法令的一個規範好 謝謝 謝謝部長做一位不會把學生參盤端上談判桌的部長我們給予肯定那今天呢我們把台中隊都叫到你後面上次台中隊也在你後面那今天呢他們一直都是我強力的後盾都是你強力的後盾所以我今天的質詢稿原本要痛斥 |
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會改成批評因為台中隊都在你後面希望你多照顧台中隊但是有一些事情也跟台中隊有關係做不好當然應該要改正部長請問一下你認為342個字要花多久的時間可以完成 |
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342個字看在什麼樣的一個情況要寫什麼樣的字用毛筆寫就不容易啦用電腦打字就好了啦342個字扣掉複製貼上實際啊可能是你們寫的字喔大概只有36個字我認為啊大概只要一個小時不強人所難吧 |
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但是還記得4月1號教育部業務報告的時候跟部長提到學校運動設施的補助案教育部跟運動部的分工互推那時候部長在委員上我們委員會裡面說希望可以給兩週時間回覆我在4月15號收到教育部的回覆有幾件事情請教部長回覆才342個字需要兩週 |
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第二我在115年4月1號問部長問題但是公文回覆呢回覆我的是114年8月3號的一個內容那請問一下115年4月1號後你跟運動部溝通了什麼有沒有把台中教育大學實驗小學輕艇校隊納入到運動部跟教育部的業務 |
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裡面有沒有做過一個溝通平台討論?我知道張料次長還為了這一個特別就在我的辦公室打電話給這個運動部討論這個相關的裡面怎麼樣在這個我們兩部會跨部會的一個協調這一個例行的會議那決定的事項是什麼?決定的事項是什麼?決定的事項就是114年8月3日第八次工作會議的事項 |
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那我幹嘛等你兩週你回我的公文是114年你就那天委員會直接說就好了嘛在分工裡邊他確實要建立許多的一些機制跟共識那114年8月3日啊之後還有沒有再召開會議 |
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有三次有嘛有嘛我知道嘛這三次各個議題有一次還談了16個議題啦那這個議題是直接由次長打電話剛剛部長有跟您報告那我們是不是補充一下剛剛委員說分工的原則是什麼一個是專項的是運動部非許專項或是亞運項目的我們來一般教學項目 |
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所以基本上還是引用在114年8月3日嘛但是我要講的是說這8月3日之後啊10月1號12月11其實都還有相關的討論資料啊你就引用舊資料引用114年8月3日啊所以呢10月1號12月1號的資料都不是 |
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花兩週給這樣的答覆那兩次討論的議題是分別譬如說某個會刊應該要屬於誰某個月刊要誰編輯它是具體的項目所以剛剛您說如果要引用那個那反而是對委員不敬因為那裡面沒有談那件事所以這件事是張料委員張料司長直接打電話然後引用分工原則大概是這樣但我要講的是說好啊就算你真的是引用到8月3日的會議資料 |
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拜託兩週回覆我這個資料兩週我等了兩週看有沒有新的消息結果我就看1月114年8月3號的會議紀錄就好了我還要你來跟我講所以顯然他裡面是比較複雜因為連次長都親自打電話顯然他在專業是項目還是他是屬於活動 |
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是屬於設施項目還是屬於活動運動部最主要在訣竅運動設施的一個補助上就是負責棒球場跟足球嘛其他都是教育部負責那這個是不是已經定案了確定了吧 |
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專項那兩項是他們說了是定案的他們願意處理那現在就是輕艇這個項目它在一般學校裡面不是常態的項目那到底如何認定這恐怕次郎打了電話之後發現還要一點時間這個不會是回了公文以後沒有後續還會繼續聯絡我要親自帶隊去台中教育大學實驗小學輕艇校隊的狀況去再一次的勘查我希望就是教育部主政不要再推了 |
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署長您跟我去過一次很有誠意但這一次我希望接下這個問題我先澄清啦這個不是教育大叫我質詢啦這個是人家家長會一直在追啦跟教育大學無關啦 |
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實驗小學這樣會是很積極的啊 跟昭偉報告 部長很關心如果昭偉覺得整個還是要有一個主政的單位部長也說過最後如果運動部在資源還有在預算審議上還有一點困難那部長說我們就接起來講到拖拖拉拉這件事啊我們對於校園行動載具啊 使用原則啊上次有高中生也表達抗議也有表達意見我們老師也有很多的意見那後續有沒有什麼進展 |
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行動載具這個資科斯在彙整相關的資料之後我們現在還在收整但是部長最近發現國小階段應該可以先做一些處理現在我們在跟資科斯研議中國小國小國中嘛國小的部分尤其在相關的法源上可以找到在台灣的相關法源更為明確 |
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如果國小比較沒有爭議是不是能夠趕緊的去做研議公佈但不要忘記其實蠻多家長對於這個所謂的孩童聯繫的問題是不是能夠幫忙保障一下像我自己我是給孩子買那個手錶啦手錶的部分他有一個專門是為小朋友為了聯繫特別制定的一個手錶 |
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那這個部分我希望說都能夠幫忙保障到不要讓我們這個部分的善意最後讓家長的安全感也都沒有去幫忙協助到那我想4月22日我有召開一場感化教育學籍轉嫌出現重大的瑕疵部長你有掌握到嗎有的 |
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好 我要跟所有的校長大家聽一下這個問題有多嚴重啊感化教育的孩子出來以後 |
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被分配到的校園竟然跟加害者同一所而且不是一個是兩個受害者都在那間校園造成恐慌我想這主要是在講這樣子的一個狀況在轉弦的過程當中被安排 |
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加害者跟受害者同一所學校欸這不應該發生 但是卻真實發生了喔部長 學校端對於整個轉弦的過程當中 |
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他們怎麼跟矯正學校對接這個過程當中法務部有沒有協助有沒有多一點溝通調查了解轉嫌會議上學校代表參與的內容能不能表達他們的想法還是表達完以後請你回去基本上沒有用 |
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這是學校端給我的一個非常重大的一個資料他們只能夠表達意見但是完全沒用啊謝謝委員提醒確實因為這個案例我也認同這個委員所說的這個等於說這個家暴者 |
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他經過一定的一些我們這個輔導以後他不宜回到這個受害者的一個學校共處一個學校這個部分我們已經行文在4月韓文韓請這個司法院 |
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來看怎麼樣在各自的保護裡面一定要加強溝通管道而且要了解背景資訊這個溝通管道我們希望在未來一定要建立我能夠體諒各自的保護當時沒有去找到這個狀況但現在發生了我們要守護全國的校園安全啊我完全認同委員的一個想法 |
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他的這個個案背景是非常嚴重的不是單純的小事件也不是單純的小霸凌啦不是餒我想這個案件我今天不在這邊討論我想案件個案我們不討論但是這個我們會嚴重嚴正的來看待而且希望能夠跨部會 |
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能夠建立一個溝通協調的一個機制讓以後這個事件不要再發生趙偉堅站起來 最後一分鐘我們學習歷程很多高中生在反映對這個事情還是不看好希望能夠廢除 我們也多次表達那學習歷程基本上呢我們表達了你們沒有認同但我們希望你的精進方案還是要出來我最後要再講 |
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剛剛有許多委員在關心的電子煙進入到校園現在國小驚人發現全班七個國小七個有電子煙 |
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我也要跟所有在座的教育工作者尤其是部長最近新聞還在報導我們相關泌尿科的醫師講20年的從業經驗前面18年關於梅毒這樣子的患者 |
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沒有這兩年加起來的多我們的校園 煤毒 電子煙 毒品這些相關的問題我真的要拜託我每一次在教育部在這邊質詢一直在講教育部都說有我們加強溝通加強宣導 加強教育但是實際還是沒辦法防範每年不管校園暴力 毒品 甚至是煙甚至是這樣子的煤毒還是逐漸攀升我們真的要痛定思痛要想辦法處理這件事情最後 拜託你 |
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我們台中隊多照顧一下有任何需要的我會再轉達他們的一個需求我想桃園這個案例我們一定會詳細的來追查就以上補充好 謝謝 |