| IVOD_ID |
168988 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168988 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-26-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-29T17:20:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-29T17:29:44+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:13 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6301273cb2dfee840117549af26788eb84e55221ec8869c03db016e2cb5fd06f142e1c090ea04b925ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
17:20:31 - 17:29:44 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-29T14:30:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：（下午2時30分起。若上午議程尚未結束，待結束後接續召開）
一、繼續審查
(一)委員柯志恩等17人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
(二)委員林月琴等17人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
(三)委員王育敏等16人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
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二、審查
(一)委員徐欣瑩等18人擬具「醫療法第二十一條條文修正草案」案。
(二)委員洪申翰、賴惠員等17人擬具「醫療法部分條文修正草案」案。
(三)委員盧縣一等16人擬具「醫療法第七十一條條文修正草案」案。
(四)委員鍾佳濱等19人擬具「醫療法第八十四條條文修正草案」案。
(五)委員王正旭等24人擬具「醫療法增訂第七十一條之一條文草案」案。
(六)台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「醫療法第一百零三條條文修正草案」案。
(七)委員郭昱晴等16人擬具「醫療法第一百零三條條文修正草案」案。
(八)委員盧縣一等17人擬具「醫療法第四十九條及第五十條條文修正草案」案。
(九)委員蘇巧慧等19人擬具「醫療法增訂第二十二條之一條文草案」案。
(十)委員賴惠員等20人擬具「醫療法第八十四條及第一百零四條條文修正草案」案。
(十一)委員李彥秀等16人擬具「醫療法部分條文修正草案」案。
(十二)委員陳瑩等16人擬具「醫療法第八十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十三)委員劉建國等18人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
(十四)委員劉建國等16人擬具「醫療法第四十九條及第五十條條文修正草案」案。
(十五)委員邱鎮軍等21人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
(十六)委員劉建國等16人擬具「醫療法增訂第九十八條之一條文草案」案。
(十七)委員林思銘等23人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
(十八)委員羅智強等16人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
(十九)委員張嘉郡等17人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
(二十)委員蘇清泉等22人擬具「醫療法部分條文修正草案」案。
(二十一)委員羅明才等16人擬具「醫療法第十條、第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
(二十二)台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
(二十三)委員許宇甄等21人擬具「醫療法第二十四條及第一百零六條條文修正草案」案。
(二十四)委員廖偉翔等19人擬具「醫療法第一百零二條條文修正草案」案。
【第二(二十四)案，如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書，則不予審查】
【僅詢答，下午1時30分起辦理發言】
【4月29日上午9時起及下午2時30分起為一次會】） |
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謝謝主席有請衛福部的史部長有請史部長賴元豪史部長你好我看到我們今天一般你這麼辛苦在這裡我想這個因為看到醫療法這跟醫療有關係的聽說賴總統這兩天他跳給你是不是 |
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我們一直都有在重要的政策都會跟總統報告這兩天有大廳給你講那個啊講說那個護病筆要入法這個事情啊其實護病筆入法這個我們一直都在研議啦也都有定期會跟總統報告這個賴總統還說緩衝期兩年 |
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兩年後又死屍了啊你們不敢修這個醫師法不敢修醫療法你們就去用那個什麼行政命令來給他做變這個樣子啊是不是這樣不是這樣不是這樣其實護病比的問題就是護理能力的問題總統一直都很關切所以我定期都會跟總統報告他的政見喔他的選總統的政見喔對我都會定期的跟他報告那這個白天是1比6對不對 |
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醫學中心啦小月班1比9大月班1比11對不對這個是應該是在我們在113年要推動這個三班互併比獎勵的時候的獎勵標準啦獎勵標準如果你達到這樣獎金發多少獎金發多少就是一年大概在16、7億左右太久了 |
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你不怪不怪你護理師找到這樣近四個月流失一千三百多個黃國友夜班津貼一年就發了四十幾億啊夜班津貼也有啊另外我們也在調這個健保的護理費這個一年調二十五億有些護理師跟我們反映啊啊他調來調去啊結果這邊才有那邊就沒有你為什麼不護理師現在四個月流失一千三百個 |
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勞動節他們有他們的呼籲啊他們呼籲就是工作尊嚴合理的勞動條件合理的勞動條件很重要的就是income的問題啦全世界都在嗆護理師啊你們知道嗎台灣的護理師好用到國外美國這個如果你是RM |
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註冊的護理師 基本上來講要拿綠卡都很容易啊 全世界在搶啊你要保害財民我們今年3月 叫去年3月同期增加的護理師大概是4900名啦4000多可是走掉了1300這個每年都會有進進出出啦但是現在我們講那個現在有些的 |
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這個醫學中心啊或者區醫院比較大的醫院啊那個床都沒辦法全部開啊因為沒護理師啊請問平均我們的駕動力多少所以跟委員報告確實你哪人力不夠的時候強行要求入法這的確會造成關床的危機的啊所以我們要一方面來增加護理人力所以你現在我特別跟你說 |
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賴總統打電話給你講護病筆入法的事情結果基層的醫療協會他們就反對啊就你說這樣啊應該不是這樣說啦大家應該要來討論是說朝這個合理的護病筆 |
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什麼叫合理合併病所以這個就是我們要討論什麼叫合理的互併病因為我們要照顧1比6 1比9 1比10你怎麼這樣說 因為各層級各層級也不一樣各層級嘛不一樣醫學中心有這個 你說醫學中心有這個醫學中心有這個 |
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醫學中心現在113年我們有一個叫做三班一般113年開始我們有弄一個標準來做三班護病比獎勵嘛那獎勵的意思是說你達到這個標準我們就給你獎勵這個標準是白班6小夜9大夜11醫學中心是這樣獎勵多少錢啊獎勵給誰獎勵給醫院還是給護理師由醫院發給護理師 |
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305.301 |
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你去查一下你到醫院醫院不一定會有護理師我們都有一個申訴平台如果沒有拿到可以來申訴拿多少拿多少啦 拿多少都不一樣 因為每個醫院不一樣平均的 平均醫學中心平均多少醫學中心平均一個護理師可以增加多少有的醫院他就 因為今天五一六中節要到了啊大家很在乎他的工作條件啊 |
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312.633 |
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我們計算一下我再請業務單位他們有再提供 |
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一個月有沒有一萬一個月喔沒有啊 絕對沒有啊差不多幾千塊而已沒有到一萬的啦你如果夜班的有喔大夜班有可能啦白天沒有啦所以如果你是有上夜班的事白天沒有啦真的你們要聽一下趙少康的一個做法嘛你跟護理師普遍加一萬塊啊你稍等一下 |
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快到了沒有沒有我一定結束你放心好不好我在三分鐘結束來那個newsweek美國newsweek排名全球的最佳醫院台北榮總被排進來了前250名裡面台北榮總台大醫院台北榮總排174台大排249前五名的台中榮總林口成根高雄成根 |
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裡面啦 我講一個問題啦新加坡大學醫院排第十名東京醫大輔助醫院排第十三名所以亞洲的醫院可以排到十幾名喔這個你當部長你要不要有一個豪情壯志或者你有一個企圖心啊說讓台灣不想就榮總跟台大有辦法擠到前一百名有可能嗎 |
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跟委員說明這個都是要去報名啦然後也要繳很多錢啦這個不是一般的這個我們所謂的平線這樣你們不是鼓勵嗎那我們是對國內來做服務為主不是要去爭取很多外國的病人來所以在這一個方面我們是覺得是所以這個不重要我們重視的是分析這個不重要 |
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不重要 重要的是分級醫療不要去 大家統統擠到幾個知名醫院把它統統排完之後 大家都要往知名醫院不對合適的病到合適的醫院 我要問你的題目是說你要不要在台中 台灣的媒體來做醫院的ranking不必要 不必要 我們認為的是分級醫療分級醫療不是要鼓勵大家去固定的幾家我開了眼界 |
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這個全世界大家的追求都是說我們希望有最好這個醫院都放在大學裡面像台大輻射醫院台北醫學大學輻射醫院等等的榮總現在也是有人講說你會不會放在陽明大學裡面結果你不是要這樣子你完全是不考慮這個所以你對於這些來講的話我要強調的是說今天講醫療法醫師其實醫師很辛苦除了臨床之外 |
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醫師還要 醫師還要做研究還要做研究 可不是這樣 對不對他們的生存跟我們跟研究很有關係喔我們也鼓勵這個 我覺得這樣 最後一句話啦因為我時間到了喔這五點半本身到了 我說要結束喔你跟教育部好好地去討論一下怎麼樣讓這個衛護部跟教育部好好地研究讓今天是醫療法談到醫師 談到護理師讓他們的路 |
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醫師的路不要那麼的一個辛苦因為他除了看病人還要做研究非常辛苦的你也做過醫師嗎都知道對不對跟全世界都這樣好的醫院一定在大學底 |
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跟委員說明其實教育部都有在做大學排名啦他們去做大學排名可是我們醫院我們不做排名因為我們重視的是適當的病到適當的醫院去看分級醫療最重要適度排名是有必要的啦謝謝謝謝賴世保委員的質詢 |