| IVOD_ID |
168943 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168943 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-29T11:22:23+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-29T11:29:48+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:25 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6301273cb2dfee8421a6b234e64f9c4fa5b809b1091e157418096c5e05de57c6176963589987de955ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:22:23 - 11:29:48 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請海洋委員會主任委員率同所屬列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形)，並備質詢。二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。三、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海洋委員會海洋保育署、國家海洋研究院部分。四、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款海洋委員會、海洋保育署部分。五、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於海洋委員會主管特別收入基金－海洋污染防治基金。
【詢答及處理，所列預算提案於115年4月27日(星期一)中午12時截止收件。】
【另本會115年4月23日台立內字第1154000532號函，相關預算提案截止收案時間延長至4月27日(星期一)中午12時。】
【4月29日、30日兩天一次會】） |
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我們請台委會主委 謝謝 |
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因為去年五月多的時候大陸有一個偷渡的他去網路上買什麼在拼多多買個橡皮艇然後就偷渡到台灣那時候因為海巡沒有辦法偵測到他來所以後來海巡署就說要去購買一些設備因為他們認為你們認為說橡皮艇材質面積太小偵測容易被那個 |
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不容易被雷達偵測到然後目標太小了然後而且那麼多的人力要監控其實也可以降低人力負擔所以又完成了一個暗海偵監系統建置計畫那其中要購買紅外線熱影像系統99套還有環海智慧型監控系統176套 |
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那這個東西在去年五月份的時候海巡署還有會講說這東西是非常重要因為有了這個東西才能夠抗拒就是中共的灰色作戰而且因應就是台海日益嚴峻的挑戰講這個東西非常非常非常非常重要 |
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那這個預算其實在去年的時候我們有提特別預算那預算其實也都已經過了那目前在執行當中那我比較好奇的是既然當初把這個東西講得這麼重要要趕快執行啊沒有執行的話就無法因應挑戰可是現在執行到底怎麼樣 |
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我們可以看到紅外線熱影像系統是編兩個年度要來採購今年是要採購35處那明年是要64處加起來是99處然後另外環島智慧監控系統今年是要建置101套明年75套請問一下這個東西現在買到了嗎 |
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我們正在招標的過程當中 還沒有決標主委 因為海巡署也是歸您管的啦那去年把這個東西講的這麼重要 我都以為說要趕快錢拿到就趕快買啊然後結果到現在已經四月即將要進入到五月了然後問您什麼 你說還在採購中 採購中是哪一個階段現在 |
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目前備標的作業有一些陸陸續續成熟但是勤監政的部分還沒有決標但是招標的方式我們已經確定跟委員報告就是說招標的方式確定了以後海巡這邊他會經過仿商的過程然後去 |
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190.493 |
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這個流程其實我們之前都有跟海巡署詢問過啦我就問你一個態度問題啦你覺得這會不會太慢呢跟委員報告海巡在任何一個部分他們本於專業然後我都給予他們最大的信賴所以你覺得這個速度是OK給予他們最大的信賴大家都是給予支持肯定嘛所以預算就過了嘛現在在講的是速度嘛 |
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那我當然是覺得如果說去年五月發生那樣的事情然後你們認為說是因為等一下你們認為說是因為當時的技術沒有辦法偵測到那所以要趕快建置計畫要趕快購買那預算也過了今年都要進入到五月了然後目前你剛剛說在招標中實際上招標程序有很多但目前為止連公告都沒有 |
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你要公告然後才會有廠商看到公告之後來投標投標之後你要資格標你要開標評選然後評選完之後要交貨交貨要驗收其實後面還有很長一段路要走但你現在連準備公告都還沒那已經過了四個月了 |
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那我是不知道說這個東西是卡在哪裡啦就是說連要公告都速度要這麼慢你如果講說我公告了然後沒有廠商投標或者是價格大家不接受所以我要第一次招標第二次招標第三次招標你已經進入到程序裡面了那我覺得你還有話講 |
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那現在是連公告都還沒有公告各位原報中間因為科技日新月異那我們訪商的過程也遇到了一些時間的需要那這個部分我都支持海巡那有關於招標的方式是一定必須依採購法 |
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所以不要拉圈圈啦 大家都懂採購法 現在講的是速度我如果在這裡 叫我來譴責沒有人叫你譴責我做不到的委員你不要這樣子 大家現在在監督這個事情 希望這個快一點然後你就是說 人家要你去譴責海巡不要動不動都情緒勒索 沒有辦法就事論事沒有人要譴責海巡 大家都很辛苦 |
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但是現在大家講 指揮 指揮等一下我們是希望快一點 我們想要知道慢的原因在哪裡嘛 對不對沒有人叫你譴責 指揮你要裝個衣服好像我很照顧駕駛所以你不要讓我去 沒有人在講這個事情不要講政治語言 |
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現在講的就是招標有沒有太慢因為這個東西是你們認為很重要的東西有人如果覺得想要知道的不是要譴責我們太慢而是要知道為什麼太慢譴責這兩個字是你講的不是我講的我請署長來說說我覺得我不要在這邊耍嘴皮一次這樣真的很累這不是耍嘴皮 |
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我們只是講 我覺得 我認為有點慢當然你有合理的理由 你可以講但是沒有人說譴責好不好 不要這樣扣帽子那請說明為什麼要那麼慢我們因為要希望買到更高規格的東西 |
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在採購之前一定會公開徵求徵求這一個相關的這些規格然後公開以後那看廠商有沒有意義有沒有什麼問題或者是你有更高貴的東西然後根據這個部分我們來做必要的這個價格的區間的定位然後我們再做後續的採購那我們的整個採購程序一定是按照這種採購法來做的 |
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那我們跟特別跟委員報告就是因為他很重要所以我們非常小心謹慎我們需要買到最新最高規格的東西進來也就是同樣價格我們需要買到更好的東西所以我們在過程當中特別跟委員報告當然您認為說是可能會有一點問題 |
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是的我們是稍微慢一點點但是我們希望能夠買到更高規格的東西進來然後對我們的國安跟治安更有保障這邊特別跟委員說明這按照你的說法因為科技日新月異所以你好像越慢買你可以買到越新 |
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感覺邏輯上變這樣子啊你還在拿捏一下嘛不是嘛 因為那個過程就是會有公開徵求就是我講的訪商嘛訪商速度啊 你可以一個月訪一家你也可以一天訪一家我公開徵求就已經是一個階段那這個階段就需要這個階段的時間每個階段其實你都有 |
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方式讓他的效率變好啦你都有機會讓他的效率變好啦當然你要找理由是可以講一大堆啦但是真正想做事的是找方法啦真正做事的是找方法啦,謝謝好謝謝,謝謝葉元之委員 |