| IVOD_ID |
168930 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/168930 |
| 日期 |
2026-04-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-04-29T09:20:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-04-29T09:28:24+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:26 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6301273cb2dfee84afebd739cbd9307ca5b809b1091e157418096c5e05de57c65fafcff08c5e5b495ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許忠信 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:20:58 - 09:28:24 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-04-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第9次全體委員會議(事由:一、邀請海洋委員會主任委員率同所屬列席報告業務概況(含上會期臨時提案辦理情形),並備質詢。二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會部分。三、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於海洋委員會海巡署及所屬、海洋委員會海洋保育署、國家海洋研究院部分。四、審查115年度中央政府總預算案關於直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款海洋委員會、海洋保育署部分。五、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於海洋委員會主管特別收入基金-海洋污染防治基金。
【詢答及處理,所列預算提案於115年4月27日(星期一)中午12時截止收件。】
【另本會115年4月23日台立內字第1154000532號函,相關預算提案截止收案時間延長至4月27日(星期一)中午12時。】
【4月29日、30日兩天一次會】) |
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有請管主委主委好 主委好 恭喜委員剛才您的書面報告第17月有提到我們這個海岸有一些外籍人擱淺那麼這些船舶即使沉沒上司船舶身份他還是有殘餘物的所有權 |
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所以仍然可以對所有人開除罰款那我從你們的2014年的預算跟2015年的預算我們看到你們的其他收入明顯少於罰款所以你們對這種船舶遇到海難你們如何請他來移除?是不是只用罰款? |
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除了罰款以外,我們依法應該要求償的部分,我們也會求償跟委員報告就是說,在這個部分其實我們都並不手軟我們常常一個案子都是累積的,去累加的給他開罰單這個求償,要到海外求償,外籍船 |
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除了那個殘餘物以外幾乎你要到海外去求償有一些船舶他們的保險會比較周全像蘭嶼的布魯拉宮他所提供給我們的保證的信用就非常的高額那這個部分我們未來如果要求償的話我們會比較能夠完整的來完成我們的目標因為我們連續法我們必須要加速我看你們 |
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在處理這個預期作案是一年一年時常已經都造成油污外洩海洋都已經污染了所以這個一年表示我們過去的時效太慢對 跟委員報告污染我們絕對非常嚴謹的防治那到目前為止這些擱淺的船舶它的污染完全都在我們的掌控之下這個之前我看你們是用掌控跟監控 |
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我們抽油的這些計畫非常的嚴謹嚴格的要求所以要抽除油料我們不可能容許說油料沒有抽除然後讓他在那邊擱淺一年多不可能這個因為牽涉到海難救助是海商法103條第二項有對無營管理做一個特別規定也就是說我們可以 |
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以撈救人的態度來積極的做五銀管理如果他有損害環境之餘那我們去在五銀管理撈救我們可以對支出的必要費用取得報酬有一些就是這樣我們會代位的就強制去處理可是我看到你們的時候沒有這個項目 |
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這個部分我們都會求回來那如果說要在稅入裡面加進來我們檢討一下那個稅入的狀況是不是房處長說明一下稅入的部分因為這個部分是我用出去以後它比較不算稅入啦就是我先代位處理了以後再求償回來所以它沒有被當作稅入有收拾的部分你看海山法103條第二項如果我們對 |
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污染之餘的我們救助有功防止有效我們可以請求超過實際支出的一倍的報酬所以郁州啟航呢他擔保兩千萬那我們六十萬的這個罰款的部分他已經講了那另外是污染了我們海岸的話兩千萬是我污染的部分他沒有污染郁州啟航沒有造成污染所以我們必須要在 |
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產生海難立刻積極的處理那麼處理的方式不一定要我們同仁自己親自來進行我們可以委外我們委外由民間迅速的來委員管理它 |
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那到時候我們海巡署非但有支出必要費用的報酬我們還可以請求一倍的報酬這是海商法給我們的一個特別規定我看我們本署對這個規定到現在都沒有反映在你們的預算因為是我們支出 |
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然後再要回來所以它不算是稅入沒有顯示在稅入裡面但是其實你如果救助有效可以有一倍的報酬也就是說海巡署在管地裡之下還替國家賺錢我們罰還會我們一定會罰罰還一定會 |
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就是賠償的部分我們可以要求加倍的賠償這個部分也很希望法院可以支持我們你們要用連續法 |
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有 用連續法 一張一百萬一百萬下去我們已經罰到 一個案都會罰到上千萬一個案我們累積罰到兩千萬 委員一個案 擱淺在那裡 我們罰單累積到兩千萬可以積極的替國家 |
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創造這方面無印管理的收入又有利我們的海洋我們現在是一定至少絕對不能夠賠錢一定要求償回來一定要平衡啦那如果趙委員講的我們要溢出超出這個平衡預算之外再增加更大的求償的範圍的話我們來研究好不好但是跟委員報告我們那個罰緩真的就已經超過超過很多了譬如說一個案你如果用我們潛在的危險看 |
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海岸的潛在危險,這些划船真的是為不足道因為造成海岸污染以後再來整治,時常會是國家很重大的負擔我們主計處長剛剛告訴我,我們這個執行率是107.3% |
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我知道我有看到但是你們那個其他船員非常少我希望我們執行率兩百就對了啦我們來努力好不好因為你們必須要積極的去我們超執行率兩百來合力那這樣可以去減少我們海岸受那個污染的一個危險我們很心痛而且擱淺的船太多了那有一些船像權宜輪次標準輪有時候要求償開了罰單都還不記得拿得到錢因為台灣在 |
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台風的路徑上,這種情形很多所以我們現在就預先會要求他們去海上避難去海上避風,然後會清空我們所轄管的海域那港港局跟海巡署在這個部分現在都有前瞻的部署,謝謝委員關心 |
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如果到海外球場有困難我們撈起殘餘物以後我們還甚至可以用拍賣的方式來進行來賠償我們國庫的損失 |